Ben-DutkaThese days, it's actually quite rare for a hotly anticipated, mega-hyped video game to fall far short of critical and sales expectations. Thankfully.
But as of now, it seems as if the recently released Medal of Honor: Warfighter may take the undisputed crown of Most Disappointing Game of 2012. Currently, the Metacritic ranking for the 360 version is 51, the PS3 version is 54, and the PC version is 58. As for me, I had to give it a 6 , and it's definitely my most disappointing game of the year.
I often remember games that perform better than expected, that turn out to be something fantastic when everyone was only expecting average quality. Those are the games I prefer to remember; I really don't want the colossal screw-ups bouncing around in my recall banks. The problems with Warfighter are glaring and obvious, as most all critics have said by now, and this may seriously hinder sales. Bad news for EA. It's difficult to find another title in 2012 that came even close to this level of disappointment. Then again, the year isn't over just yet…
What do you think?
I really liked the first one. I'm not touching this one with a ten foot pole, though.
For some reason I was never excited about this game to begin with, even though I enjoyed the first one. That's right guys, I'm a psychic! Ask me anything about the future of games and I'll tell you.
Agent and The Last Guardian?
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The Last Guardian: When all games next gen disappoint, the appropriately named Last Guardian will surface out of nowhere as a last defense of gaming quality. This game will remind us about greatness, but only in a dire time of need.
Last edited by ZenChichiri on 10/28/2012 11:55:54 PM
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Biker-
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Danger Close fail. But the people who buy it seems to like it.
Doesn't seem like there was enough hype for this game for it to be considered the biggest disappointment of the year. I think more people will say Mass Effect 3 or Resident Evil 6, though I would totally disagree on both counts.
Call it what you will but it wasn't a disappointment. I dont think the game was even hyped enough. Games that are being hyped as your explaining would be AC3, Borderlands 2, and of course black ops 2. Is it getting lower scores than expected, probably, that's a more accurate statement. But a disappointment, nah. I'm not saying anything more than this being my opinion, though. So understand that I understand it may be disappointing to others.
It's unfortunate that this game appears to be falling victim to a "crime" military FPS all commit. Shoot, cover, explosion, shoot, cover, move! I've read a few pieces of reviews here and there, and all of them compliment the game in areas, but are really stuck on the fact it's just another shooter. Some claim the game play isn't good, but I can't laugh harder at that. It plays like any other military FPS, with just as tight if not tighter controls. Not to mention there are very memorable moments that you just wish wouldn't end. The car chases bring an element that may not be use enough in FPS, just to get away from the shooting for a moment.
I've already said the graphics are great, and this appears to be a weird situation where half the consumers/reviewers got bunk copies while the other half have enjoyed a game that runs perfect. How and why that happens I have no idea, but it appears that way. Numerous people I've talked to even on this very website are playing a game that runs and plays like it was expected.
The story hasn't been discussed much, and I think those who have playe it really enjoyed it. It's not in depth, or flashy, it's just sympathetic and realistic. It's not hard to follow at all, and the characters grow on you. You feel for them, and that's something this series is doing great in focusing on. Theres a sense of bringing these "Warfighters" stories into our living rooms through the video game, and that's awesome to me.
Not a disappointment to me. Again this is a case where if I'd have listened to the reviews, id have missed out on another good – to – great game.
Last edited by bigrailer19 on 10/29/2012 12:17:54 AM
Agreed bigrailer.
I just play a said title for what it is. I dont think it's fair to compare this to that. Although the only game I grow tired of is CoD. So no matter how many shooters out there there are, I will play the game for what it is.
Agree wholeheartedly. This game was awesome. 'Nuf said
Spot on Bigrailer
The game is one of the best FPS out there and looks better than most also. The later levels were a blast to play. I also do not know why this game is getting the shaft.
It is in no way a disappointment. Please try this game and make up your own mind people.
As bigrailer said above me, this game is far from a disappointment and honestly, I am not sure why this game is getting the criticism.
Now while I respect others opinions, I believe several reviewers have been unfair in their complaints in regards to the fact MOH Warfighter is "just another shooter".
In reality, this game has done nothing that Black Ops 2 will be doing shortly and that's offering the same type of experience their predecessors gave. MOH Warfighter is a shooter, and it doesn't pretend to be anything else.
Why does this game get treated to 5-6 scores when COD has offered the same forumla over and over again? Regardless to what that answer is, I am glad I opened my MOH game and placed it in my PS3 dispite what the reviews said.
I just rented it from Redbox myself and played through mos of the campaign. My site OnlySP, gave it a 7 and it's probably the best score I can give the game myself. (I didn't review it).
The whole presentation of the game is fantastic, but it really drops the ball on what was advertised as an emotionally charged shooter and exploring the soldiers outside of combat. There's scenes in the game where it's protrayed like no other game has done before, but I felt no connection to any of it. The relationships just weren't built up enough.
If you've played the scene with the execution, I didn't even know who died, which is really saying something about the character development. The main enemies had no background to them or anything either.
As a "game" it's great. Few bugs like sound cuts in the beginning etc, but the shooting and variety is a lot of fun and Frostbite 2.0 is sexy as hell. The car chases were fun as well, especially the one with stealth. Story though, which was heavily advertised was a huge disappointment, and that's what people were looking for in Warfighter. Haven't touched the MP so nothing to say there.
Max-
Obviously I think we are on the same page. I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it as well.
Nick-
I like that your fair in your response. You sound like many of the reviews did but didn't short it just because… Honestly, to me a 7 isn't a bad score, we probably wouldn't be referring to the game as a "disappointment" or anything else had it received a 7. You seem to praise the game in many, many areas, aside from the story. I'm noticing most reviewers saying the gameplay isn't that great, where you said "the shooting and variety is a lot of fun… The car chases were fun as well". Which is interesting to see so many different responses towards a game.
But I disagree with the story part. Which isn't abnormal, as we all have opinions. But as I said in my comment, MoH brought the stories of these "Warfighters" into our living rooms through a video game. I felt a connection and each character grew on me. I thought they did a great job portraying a soldiers life and the decisions he has to make between his love and duties as a man and a soldier. There's a lot of emotion that's brought to light when you see the soldier looking at his daughter, but knowing what he's saying to his wife may not be something he can commit to dispite what he really wants.
I can't see how there isn't an "emotional charge" when you realize the types of sacrifices that are being made video game or not. This game presents a situation where this soldier lives a life where having two things that matter to him contradict. And it's told as well as it could have in this situation. Maybe a longer campaign would help to iron that out a bit, but other than that, it was easy to follow, told well in the confines of the game, and sympathetic to the situation.
Kudos for bringing up good points of discussion!
Last edited by bigrailer19 on 10/29/2012 1:24:03 AM
I think you guys are really missing that the multiplayer, which is the primary point of shooters, is severely lacking in Warfighter. I can pretty much guarantee that Black Ops II will do everything better when it comes to that aspect, and let's not forget that the MoH multiplayer is getting SLAMMED by gamers.
People can't hear each other in matches, there's a black-screen plague, so many HATE the presentation and how it's set up, games are crashing, etc. It's just a mess. On top of which, that story really fell way short in terms of emotion and writing. I'm sorry but for what was promised, the final product wasn't even close.
Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 10/29/2012 1:22:31 AM
It just sounds to me like it was rushed.
Of course Black Ops will be better, it's the standard right now. But the mp in MoH is perfectly fine. And again I havnt experienced those issues, I hear everyone fine, get into games fine, no "black screen". I do agree the presentation is awkward, but ill get used to it. And even though that stuff may be happening, we shouldn't sit back and act like CoD is flawless. I've spent a lot of time just trying to connect to a game. CoD has terrible servers, and the disconnects I get in a weeks time are ridiculous and sort of inexcusable. Let's not forget the problems connecting with friends. Oh and dont even try playing CoD the first days it's out. They never seem to be prepared for the amount of people that buy these games and the online just falls apart. Also they may support CoD with oberpriced DLC, but their support for technical issues is non existent. Thats coming from me, someone who loves to play CoD, but the problems are really frustrating. My point is online games have issues, even the king!
The mention of mp, wasn't brought up from me because I don't just play these games for the mp, the campaigns matter to me. But since we are on the subject, what is MoH "lacking" exactly? There is tons of weapon choices, tons and tons of weapon mods, varying game modes, varying landscapes and maps, differing classes, killstreaks, varying gameplay techniques, improvements on the attempt at making teamwork more prominent. I mean it's all there. It takes a more realistic approach, there's no perks, you know like the extended knife perk in CoD (apparently that's gone now, thankfully).
As far as the story, I don't think EA or Danger close ever "promised" the story and writing would be revolutionary. Should we even expect that from an FPS? There's a premise here in this game, that has a lot of emotion, if it's lost in the writing, I didn't notice personally, but it's there and it's good. Could it have been better, sure, but depending on who writes it, it may have been a little different too.
Last edited by bigrailer19 on 10/29/2012 2:21:27 AM
Once again I agree with Bigrailer and disagree with Ben. I was actually choked up at the end of this game. The story was great and really gave you a perspective of what a soldier actually goes through. I think if anyone says the story isn't emotional or is lacking either didn't play the game in its entirety or is dead inside. Just my Opinion, of course.
Rogers: I'm glad you liked it, and I'm glad bigrailer liked it, too. It certainly isn't my place to say whether someone should enjoy a game or not. I just do the review, and no review is universal.
But that story just wasn't very well done from any artistic standpoint, and I'll have to stand by that.
Agree with Bigrailer.
Loved the characters in this game and also got choked up at the end. It made me proud to be an American.
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Wasn't the first one a flop aswell? Was there a big hype to this game, I only heard of it the other day when it appeared on the PS Store for and extra 50% of the retail price… I can't really class it as a disappointment as I didn't even acknowledge it…
of course not!
theres many, many games out this year that ended up more disappointing.
starhawk, dishonoured, ME3, darksiders 2, sleeping dogs, diablo 3, the secret world, just to name a few.
all of those were far more disappointing because they actually had hype and expectations behind them!
it was quite obvious from the get go that warfighter was going to be pretty meh, and thats probably why i enjoyed it allot more than what i was expecting, because for once a game was actually better than what i was expecting!
for once a developer says heres our game, they dont make any bullsh*t false promises, and outlandish claims, they just show the god dam game!
thank you danger close for bucking the trend!
warfighter is a perfect example of whats wrong with this industry.
every review has ripped it a new one because it has a poor inconsice story, and faceless boring characters.
which it most certainly does, i could not care less about the characters, and i have no idea what the hell was going on with the story!
but so what!?
since when are war games so deep and famous for story telling?
sorry, did i miss something?
was this written by david cage or something was it?
so im assuming black ops 2 will be ripped a new hole as well, too?
because if that has a better story and better characters than warfighter ill give you everything i own and every cent in my bank account!
really pisses me off how reviewers rip one game for something, than give others a free pass!
sorry bubs, but whats good for the goose is good for the gander!
warfighter gets ripped for having a poor story, than EVERY game gets ripped for having a poor story!
Lol, as rantful as your posts are, I actually enjoy reading them at times. They're bashful, but at the same time it has a bit of sense to it.
I don't understand this whole expectation thing. Is it because it's being released closed to Black Ops II, so expectations should match that of every Call of Duty games? It is mindblowing to me that CoD is already being praised over this when there aren't any reviews for it yet.
Complains for this game is basically "seen here, done that." Is CoD that much different than that? Perhaps it does revolutionize the fps genre every year… in sales.
For me personally the biggest disappointment in gaming this year is that we never got those Skyrim DLCs. Especially the last one is one I would *love* to get.
Skyrim represent the only instance over all the years with the PS3 that I regret that I bought the PS3 version. I should have gotten me the PC version.
I can't imagine anything happening the last two months of this year that can beat that disappointment.
Yeah, the lack of Skyrim DLC really is an issue for me, too. And it's also the only PS3 version of game I would regret buying, too.
Well, no, that's not entirely true…Bayonetta really needs to be played on the 360 as well.
Well as discussed over on the forums, I have to agree with you Ben. It certainly for me was hyped up quite a bit but fell way short of expectations.
@Beamboom, DLC for Skyrim just never was something I was too arsed about. At this stage they can keep it imo.
I agree Beanboom! The Skyrim PS3 DLC debacle of 2012! Will go down as my only real dissapointment this year! And yes I also agree with _____________ about stories in FPS type games. Reminds me of the commercial that used to be on TV. Blah, blah, blah elite soldiers, blah, blah, blah secret military base, blah, blah, save the world, the end! HA!
I love the MoH franchise but I think its trying to hard to be CoD instead of trying to beat it.
I have shared my thoughts many times already. So all I am going to say here is that I really enjoyed the game.
I just cannot agree with all the 5/10 scores this game has been getting. I bought it for both the PS3 and the PC and I have to say I'm thoroughly enjoying it. I haven't touched the campaign – but the multiplayer is a lot of fun, Yes I've spawned under the map a few times – but haven't had any other issues on either platform.
I'm not a fan of the 'buddy spawn' though – its frustrating when you almost respawn only for your "buddy to be in danger" so the timer resets – sometimes several times – also the enemy regularly seems to have their 'buddy' respawn behind me just as im about to engage … but thats about the only complaint I have.
Only 8 maps so far – hopefully that will change.
If your looking for inovation/something fresh etc etc – don't buy a military FPS.
If you want a multiplayer shooter that you can swap discs with BLOPS 2 then this fits nicely.
Will the MOH Warfighter community shrink substantially on Nov 13th ? Oh yes – but so long as they support the game and give us new map packs this will perfectly compliment BLOPS 2 for all of us online FPS junkies.
I like this post. It's fair!
To be honest, it never looked bad honestly. I think too much has been said about it. I am going to get it for the PC if it comes cheap and play it anyway. I thought it looked good.
Knowing EA it will be patched like hell anyways and they will fix it up. Just give it time…
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