Ben-DutkaGran Turismo 5 took 5 years. We're exactly 4 years into the PlayStation 3 generation. …so will GT6 be on the PS3?
During an exclusive interview with GT guru and Polyphony Digital boss Kazunori Yamauchi, the main man said he simply "doesn't know." "10 years ago it was easier to predict what would happen three years in the future," said Yamauchi. "Nowadays no one knows what happens in the future. In three years, we don't know what will happen." When asked if GT6 would have to skip this generation and wait for the next, Kaz just shrugged and laughed. Yeah, that's the universal "who knows?" gesture.
As for future patches and updates – some of which the game really needs – Yamauchi did confirm that "online updates are planned" and it's all for the "process of evolution." Perhaps the most encouraging part of his whole presentation was that he said his team would be "upgrading every week, every month" to improve GT5, so what you see out of the box isn't exactly what you get for good. We particularly like their slogan:
"Today is not the finale. Today is only the beginning of a new era for Gran Turismo."
Yes, we know you're all wondering about our review. Most of you know we have a bit more automotive knowledge than most critics out there, which should count for something. But hey…be patient. We're playing it. So just…just keep cool…it's coming…
Related Game(s): Gran Turismo 5 , Gran Turismo 6
So far I see people ripping it to shreds, and Destructoid giving it a 10. What has this game done to the world?
If Edge gives it a 10 then it's the apocalypse, World.
It's a possibility Temjin, they did give UC2 9/10.
Hell has frozen over apparently.
The reviews while having alot of criticism have given GT5 good scores.
Xombito, true, but there aren't enough 11 out of 10's to do it proper justice =p
It can have 10 and 11s in our hearts.
All kidding aside if Destrutoid has given GT5 a perfect 10 score shouldn't that show the greatness of the game?
The user reviews on metacritic are hilarious, read the negative ones
they are just so unsubtle its funny
Didn't Destructoid give Deadly Premonition a 10?
Cool, I hope if they don't already have cockpit views for the standard cars(don't have the game yet), that they slowly work some kind of cockpit view into all those cars at(need not be fancy either, mind you).
Not sure why it is but for me, I can only drive anything with 4 wheels or more 1/2 decently from a cockpit view, although I need the from behind view for every one of my motorsickles.
I'm all about hood cam. I dont need to see a wheel and hands on my screen when i see a perfectly functioning wheel and hands already. It feels redundant and makes me feel detached from the car.
Unfortunately, PD doesnt use a hood cam for whatever reason, so bumper is the next best thing. It feels low at times, but i adjust.
Biker, seems Max was right. There is NO cockpit for standard cars. Kind bummed. Seems like they should have make sure all the cars had cockpit view but its no a game breaker.
I think the cool part about cockpit view are the rear view mirrors.
still installing btw. can't wait!
Last edited by godsman on 11/24/2010 11:20:53 PM
I have the game and ALL cars have cockpit views.
Trust me, the standard cars do not.
EDIT: I should note Polyphony called them "dash board views".
Last edited by Jawknee on 11/25/2010 12:39:17 AM
That doesn't bother me at all. For some reason, dashboard/bonnet/bumper camera angles just don't work for me. But I'll be all about testing it out on the premiums when I get my copy tomorrow.
Peace.
I have come to realize the dash board view is more of an add on than anything else as my preferred view is from behind the car. Nice having the dash view for the tracks with weather though.
The standard cars have a hood cam view, which to me is always the driver's eye view. When I'm driving in my real car, I am unconscious of the 'cockpit view' because my focus is on the road ahead and the tiny sliver of hood that is visible. In a way, this is what I expected. The standard cars do not have any kind of interior view, dash, cockpit or otherwise.
However, there are over 200 premium cars that do have all of that and more, so it's not an issue in the least, unless you're absolutely married to the view of an animated pair of hands moving a steering wheel while your view of the road is masked by the front pillars of the car.
I've put in about 4-5 hours with it tonight. It's easily the best GT game I've played yet. It's much, much better than Prologue, not to mention being feature complete. I can fully tune cars again! Yay!
The standard cars have the following limitations, you can't change the wheel rims style or color, there is no interior or cockpit view (only bumper-cam, hood-cam and third person views), the headlights only work on one setting in the Standard cars. I do have to say though that the car models appear to be no less detailed than those in Prologue. The courses I've seen have all been great, I've experienced no lockups or framerate drops. The game looks gorgeous on a 1080p screen.
With regard to what you can do to a 'standard' car, you can tune the living snot out of the mechanicals, you can strip it bare to reduce weight, you can repaint the sucker and stick an over-sized wing on the back. In other words you can make yourself a tuner.
Again the Premium cars have it all, and there are 200+ of those, so there is really no need to use the 'standard' cars if you don't want to, unless a specific event calls for the car to be used.
The only flaws I've identified so far are fairly long load times. They aren't monstrous, but for a modern game (especially one on the HDD) they are long. The other negative I've found so far is the driver AI for the PS3 controlled cars in Solo race events. What I have encountered so far is best described as infuriating. What I mean is, a real driver will defend their line, but the AI drivers do not, however if you get ahead of them, beware… the AI driver drives into you and sticks there fore a while killing your speed. In reality no race driver would deliberately collide with another, and then keep forcing the issue instead of backing off so that both drivers can finish well. I have been clipped on the rear quarter by an AI driver who is apparently unable to see me and continues to drive into me while everyone else escapes. It just seems like the AI driver might be too concerned with crashing into me, that they forget that they still have to finish the race. Annoying.
Apart from that this GT5 is about as good as GT4, only bigger snd better (HD, 3D and 1000+ cars,…)
The really bad reviews are just following orders.
Forgot to add, when you first start the game, there is an update to version 1.01 that downloads, so Polyphony is clearly still working on improving/extending the game.
How bad is the screen tearing, Highlander?
And anyhow, I think I read that over time PD will release updates that'll upgrade the lower quality cars into premium cars–I hope I read that, I think I did =D
Highlander:
There is no hood cam, you must be referring to the roof cam, situated right behind the top of the windshield.
And i think the update is mainly to enable the online play. Thats what some people at GTPlanet said at least.
The loading times bugged me at first, but it seems to have gotten better. Either that or i've gotten used to the wait. I think installing on the fly slows it down a little, but once i started grinding away at the license tests the tracks loaded much faster if i had already raced on it. The first time i did the Autumn Ring test it took a while to load, but when i went back to get gold it loaded much faster.
Temjin:
I've got about 4 hours in yesterday and i didnt notice any tearing at all. That doesnt mean its not there, i may have just been focusing on the road too much to notice.
Dont hold your breath for premium car updates. It takes a ton of time to put that much detail in a car so if they do upgrade any cars it wont be many.
Last edited by NoSmokingBandit on 11/25/2010 10:32:11 AM
Tearing is practically non existent. Very, very small amount only when it's a map with a lot of buildings or cars. Turning on Flicker reduction seems to help.
Temjin
Noscreen tearing at 1080p.
Bandit
Whatever, the views as I would describe them are bumpercam hood (or drivers eye) camaraderie and third person. I see no problem with this.
@myself…
Never, ever, post from a Droid phone without proof reading.
That should read…
@ Temjin,
No screen tearing at 1080p.
@ Bandit,
Whatever, the views as I would describe them are bumper-cam, hood (or drivers eye) cam and third person. I see no problem with this.
Of course I was right Jawknee. I wasn't making it up. 😉
Poor GT5, victim to all those IGNorant crap heads.
Im huge fan to the series always have been and could not wait for this game to come since 2006 when we had the "demo like version" Prologue… anyhow ive played about 2 hours worth although i havent really enjoyed my 2 hours because honestly the game is a let down to what the fans are expecting… its one thing for someone to review it and give it a 9 but its another thing when a fan spend 60 dollars on the game and owns it and plays it repeatedly for 2 years… but its a big let down … after all the push backs and hearing how it has to be "perfect" i expected perfect especially from a franchise as polyphony has made in the past.. but my upset is the selection of cars is VERY LIMITED.. BETWEEN NISSAN AND MITSUBISHI THERES 220 CARS AND HONDA TOYOTA THERES MAYBE ANOTHER 150 .. SO FOR A GAME WITH 1000 CARS ALMOST 400 OF THEM ARE FROM 4 AUTO COMPANIES.. THAN THERES NO CADILLAC IN THIS GAME .. NOT EVEN A BRAND ON THE DEALERSHIP MENU.. THEY HAVE THE CIEN CONCEPT WHO CARES…THEY DONT HAVE THE E63 AMG OR E44 AMG THEY DONT HAVE MANY 2009-2011 CARS FOR THE MOST OF SELECTION IS OLDE CARS THAT WERE IN GT3.. GT5 ALWAYS HAD CARS THAT WERE CONCEPTS BUT REAL .. LIKE WHERES THE NEW 5 SERIES OR 6 SERIES OF 335I OR RS4 THATS NEW NOT OLD.. THE CARS ARE WHAT MAKES THE GAME AND THE SELECTION ISNT GOOD.. ALTHOUGH MANY CARS ARE HERE I WANT NEW CARS NOT OLD.. I LIKE OLD CARS AS DO MANY PEOPLE BUT IN 2010 MANY OF US FANS WANT NEW CARS… TO WRAP THIS UP.. IM A HUGE FAN ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND WHEN WERE TOLD PERFECTION WE EXPECT PERFECTION AND THIS GAME IS FAR FROM THAT.. FORZA WHICH HAS HALF THE CARS MAINTAINS REALISM TO EVERY CAR FROM HANDLING AND SOUND TO EVERYTHING AND GT5 DIDNT DO IT .. ALMSOT AS IF GT5 STOPPED 2 YEARS AGO WITH THIS GAME.. I HONESTLY BELIEVE WHAT COMPANIES DO NOWADAYS IS HYPE SOMETHING TO MAKE THE BIGGEST PROFIT AND CUT COSTS AS EFFICENT AS POSSIBLE SO THERE PROFIT MARGINS EXCED EVERYTHING… AND THATS AN HONEST ANALYSIS
Dear Sir,
I sincerely apologize because your post is so crammed and long that I didn't even bother to read a quarter of it.
An advice for you Sir is that you can press the enter button while typing.
Yours truly,
Snaaaake, the man who visited the Underworld and Hell.
You must be new to PSXE as well, relax the caps. You kids and your drugs…
Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 11/24/2010 10:25:38 PM
Just a tip, people hate seeing CAPSLOCKS. Even if you have a very reasonable opinion, most people, such as myself, will automatically presume you are a loud and obnoxious moron, even when you do have a really good point. 🙂
I think the reason you'll find that so many cars fall under those 4 manufacturers is because… They are the worlds biggest (well certainly Japans biggest) makers. So it's only logical they represent a large chunk.
Happy racing!
Relax. Dude you know how long it takes to make a car? It toke PD 3 months to do one car. They did 200 of them.
Forza isn't even close to a simulation as GT is.
We will get patches and DLC.
Calm down the game is fine, perfect it doesn't have cockpit wiews in all cars and it does;nt have the new models of cars but the cars that care brought to us look amazing, Premium or not. I'm sure we will get more cars and cockpit view later down the road but what GT5 delivers makes you forget about the small things that some people makes there entire revue about. GT5 gives you so much, you can mistake it for a real life and the physics are better then ever, NASCAR, course maker, drifting, rally, Go karts, 3D, car customization/tuning. GT5 is the best Sim ever and people like you make what could be an amazing experience to a huge pile of BS.
Again, Forza is whats the BS, you all claim it to be better when it's nothing close to be a true sim. it an't real and it doesn't look real.
Ooooh, you're just begging to be banned. Drrr…all caps is teh no, no.
Danny,
You failed as soon as you wrote this "but my upset is the selection of cars is VERY LIMITED."
Utter, and complete BS. The range of cars in this game is mind numbingly large. There have always been a ton of Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Subaru and other Japanes/Korean/Asian brands in GT. That's just the ay it's always been. But there is simply no way you can argue that the car selection in GT5 is very limited. Saying that the car selection is very limited is simply a false statement.
Its hard to feel anything but disappointment for GT5 considering how long its taken to make. I really thought the game would look better especially the almost laughable environments. In the end though it is a good racing sim but its going to get boring very quick for those not totally dedicated to the racing sim genre.
Totally agree. I'm not even a fan of GT, but I can't help but feel dissappointed with this game. Unlike FFXIII, which was my first, I loved it unlike many here which I know why, but this is my first giss of GT since GT3 (which I didn't own either) and I'm just not impressed so far with it. I do not own GT5 yet, but I have played a good amount of it at my girlfriends brothers house and all I can say is, 'why did this take so long to come out?' And to be serious, 1000 cars is overkill as most of these cars will not be driven by mean when I finally pick this game up. And just like you said…those tracks look boring. I know alot of people are going to be mad I wrote this, but this game just didn't deliver on it's promise, but in the end, its still a good game from what I have experienced so far. Plan on buying it this saturday, hope my mixed feelings change once I finally have in my ps3 to exploit at my will…lol
If you aren't a fan then aren't you supposed to be unimpressed? Why would you want to simulate something that doesn't appeal to you?
Basically because I want to explore something new. I am tired of arcade racers and since I enjoyed Grid and Dirt 2 so much, I said let me try a real simulation racer and of course GT5 fits that description. And like I sai, I don't own this game yet, I only played it at a friends house and that is never the best way to experience a game, so when I pick it up and play it by myself in the comfort of my home then maybe my opinion will change. Remember, I'm not impressed because this is actually all new to me, but time has proven my first impressions don't always tell the truth. There are alot of games I didn't like at first like Bioshock and now I consider tehm some of my favorite games. So in the end, I'm tryiing something new and since I like cars alot…GT5 seems like something that will broaden my horizon. I have not had a chance to completely experience the experience, so my opinion is nothing but subjective opinion and thats all.
I think people that are disappointed at FFXIII was because the quality of the gameplay and story having much lower standards than previous games, but still a good RPG nonetheless.
GT5 was the same game as before but better and more content packed into the disc, so fans won't complain. New comers might have different opinions. I can say, for $60 GT5 will be worth your every penny.
Small disappointments here and there but overall the game is great and well worth the money. Especially the Collectors Edition.
Listen, people that read PSXextreme are really knowledgeable in regards to the play station brand. So in saying that let me say that if you bought any other exclusive titles in the past than you need not worry about Gran Turismo. It is a fine game and although it doesn't rank in quality with games like uncharted it does provide the gamer with a similar experience, which you have come to love with the PS3. I agree with allot of people who says the game should be perfect, it did take five years to make and there is no excuse for that. However as you can see the director and the team are aware of the issues. I truly believe sony pushed this title out the door not "Yamauchi" and with time he will make it the best possible experience it can be in the next couple of months, it will never be perfect, but at its heart its still gran Turismo and any true fans should not worry.
But they had five years to perfect it, what were they doing? I don't own an Xbox, but if I were a Forza fan…I would be extremely satisfied with my 2 year installments. And patches mean more hardrive space be taken up, I got a 40GB, not cool. I thought Blue Ray could hold alot of space, why do we need to install so much data….oh yeah, 1000 cars that are completely unnecessary.
Hardly, you put that in my mouth. All I'm saying is I find 1000 cars unnecassary. Has nothing to do with GT5, hype, etc…it's called preference and observation. For me, it isn't a game maker at all. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything because everyone is entitled to their opinion, personal hobbies, etc. Sorry if you feel the need to get defensive for no reason, but I can understand why you did…my post does read like some troll crap…lol
Yes, I'm pretty sure Polyphony would not have the mandatory 133mb install on the first day. It doesn't make sense to not "put" these data in the disc. Unless it's because Sony was in a rush to push the game out the door.
@FM23
Blu-Ray can, if i remember correctly it has a max of 500G of space. And Sony is developing a 1TB disc not sure when that's coming out.
But you are limited to the space you have on the Harddrive.
It has a max of 50GB of space, the ones they use
I thought it was 500? Hmm didn't know it was 50 i could of sworn it was higher.
So, they have a higher one? But they use the 50 correct? Or they don't have a 500 one? O_o
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They are currently developing Bluray discs with 500+ gb. The problem is, the PS3 won't be compatiable with them so it's a lost cause hoping well see 500gb Blurays on the PS3 in the future.
The standard cars look just as good, I would know I have an LED Samsung monitor.
Maybe you're taking yourself too seriously? Or might be a side effect of losing too much?
oh stop whining, they are not as bad as you describe. Only difference I see is the lack of cockpit view which is disappointing but after getting the game and see all that it has to offer is hardly worth crying about.
Sweedie, that's just trolling dude. The shadows do not look like something from the PS1 era, that hardware was never capable of anything remotely like this, so don't pull something out of thin air because you think it sounds good.
The shadows (on all the cars) are no better or worse than those I've seen in other games. The standard car models are marginally (it's really very slight) less detailed than the premium ones. But, for crying out loud there are over 200 'premium' cars, surely you can find one that you are after from amoung their number, if the standard ones bother you so.