John-ShepardA lot can change in a year.
The Entertainment Merchants Association just released their annual report , and it concludes that the PlayStation 3 is "the primary driver behind Blu-Ray sales, with 87% of PS3 owners watching Blu-Ray movies on their console." This may not come as a surprise to some of you, until you realize that in 2008, 60% of PS3 owners supposedly didn't even know their machine could play Blu-Ray movies. Now, the current prediction is that Sony's next-gen console will be "the main force behind Blu-Ray disc sales until 2009, when standalone Blu-Ray players are expected to outpace the sales volume of the PS3." In addition, the study found that the average age of the gamer was around 33, and 24% of the group are over the age of 50. …obviously, we're not about to agree 100% with such findings until we know exactly what this study's definition of "gamer" was, but we've certainly heard that 30-year-old average before. That may actually be close to the truth. As for Blu-Ray, Sony has often said the PS3 was instrumental in the rapid adoption of the new format over HD-DVD. It seems the "Trojan Horse maneuver" worked out quite nicely.
At some point, Blu-Ray will replace DVD as the standard movie format, but we're probably a ways from that. Even so, it's clear that both the PS3 and Blu-Ray have had positive impacts on one another.
I had one customer complain about how unnecessary bluray is. She said "its the same movie, theres no difference". I almost lost it.
The difference between Transformers on DVD and bluray is freakin huge!!! Picture and sound quality is unbelievable!!!
I really am hoping that bluray will become the popular everyday medium once 1080p plasmas and LCDs with HDMI input becomes the average medium.
MS laughed at Sony for including bluray, but the way the industry is heading, who's laughing now?
sony, that's who lol
I didn't see Microsoft laughing when they ripped off Sony and used DVD's for the first Xbox, and the 360.
@Dancemachine55:
You should've previewed a Blu-ray movie in an HDTV screen so she can truly see the difference. Maybe she'd thought it's just another disc format?
oh M$, when will they learn? Anyways, i love playing movies on my PS3, its so smooth. and if i were you Dance, i would of bi*** slapped her and said, " No blu for you." haha
when the 2 HD discs came out i looked them over and i just really couldn't believe that HD-DVD was evin in the running against Blu-Ray, same price but 1 can hold 54gb and the other 16. was it evin worth putting the HD-DVD out?
The short answer is no.
exactly
my parents want blueray i told them wait till christmas i'll buy u guys a PS3, why get a stand alone blueray player when u can get a PS3 + a blueray player and get more for u're buck my dad was like i want to play Baulders gate again so i'm more than willing to upgrade my system give them my 20gig b/c console and just go out and get a ps2 for myself for my ps2 games we'll see though. haven't thought it through all the way.
Robochic,
And don't forget to tell your folks that thePS3 comes with the browser too(although it still needs a much needed re-working).
Oh, and that the PS3 will also connect to every other Sony product in one of the upcoming FW updates.
BTW, I also read somewhere a few months back, that one of Sony's big honcho's(forget who) wants the PS3 to be able command everything else in the house in the future too(all non-Sony products).
Gamer Dad…Sweeet!
Anyone who still thinks Blu Ray is unnecessary for movies needs to have their eyes examined. Beyond that, the space alone is just plain REQUIRED for any awesome and lengthy gaming experience this generation, especially as the second half of this gen rolls toward us.
Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 7/6/2009 10:23:44 PM
Most definately! Unfortunately it also helps to have a 240hz lcd tv. I got my regular 1080p lcd (no 240hz) over two years ago… Stay away from plasmas though.
Blu ray is amazing. I saw Transformers 2 and was thinking the whole time, "Damn, I wasted $30 bucks. This would look waay better on my Hdtv."
Last edited by Wage SLAVES on 7/7/2009 1:44:05 AM
I glued my effn eyes to the tv when I put on The Dark Knight Blu ray Movie…So amazing.
Last edited by Silent_J on 7/7/2009 10:01:47 AM
no kiddin, theatre pictures just look like a big foggy mess compared to tvs now.
yeah the DarkKnight in bluray is freaking amazing, I literally could see my downtown Chicago office window clearly in Bluray.
HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BLU RAY IS WONDERFUL. I WAS IN FRY'S THE OTHER DAY AND U NOTICE SO MUCH MORE DETAIL THAT YOU WOULDNT EVEN THINK SHOULD BE DETAIL.
BUT FOR ME IM NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT GOT THE PS3 FOR THE BLU RAY CUZ I DAMN NEAR BARELY WATCH MOVIES AND IF I DO ITS PORN OR AT THE THEATHERS LOL. DONT SEE ANY PORN ON BLU RAY THESE DAYS.
BUT THAT NICE TO KNO AND ITS ALL WAYS BETTER TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AND JUST IN THE MOMENT. M$ THINKS ABOUT THAT FAST CASH BUT THEY NEVER SEEM TO GET MY CASH. AND MY CASH IS WAY MORE WORTH THAN YOUR CASH.
Yeah, stop with the all CAPS, please.
And maybe the reply could be more civilized.
my bad its a habit from switching to different sites all the times i forget that its even on.
Seriously man, you gotta think twice about what you put on here….it makes people think…
What the heck, I hate all caps! It's too loud… Stop the screaming ..
DD CARD?
if you didnt get it its alright.
i tried to go back and it said content cannot be viewed, i thought i got banned for cussing but it started working again. srry i was scared.
hey you can get GGW on Blu Ray
Regardless Blu ray players being cheaper than the ps3, the ps3 is still the leading Blu ray entertainment platform out there. Why? Because the ps3 offers more than just Blu ray. Let me give this scenario: A familly of 4- The man and woman with a 6 and 8 year old. A Blu ray player costs about $200. With $200 more, the family can enjoy not just movies, but games and other media in HD. Blu ray is still one of the driving forces of the ps3, and it will stay that way for a considerable period of time.
damn DVDs, (*shakes fist in an angrily manner*)
In the future,
I'll just look at my PS4 and say…."MEDIUN RARE"
A nicely marinated 2" thick juicy filet will pop out, along with a sour cream & chives smothered baked potato & some holindaise sauce drizzled over a bunch of tender tender asparagus shoots, and followed by a couple glasses of a nice red to wash it all down with.
I'll just have figure out what desert I'll want my PS4 to make afterwards…
some strawberries & whipped cream for my girl sounds good
<<<<<<It seems the "Trojan Horse maneuver" worked out quite nicely.>>>>>>
Damn, I must be doing something wrong, cause I've been trying to get Helena of Troy thee ole chariot ride back to my crib for months.
Well a man's gotta try, and ya know what they say…"When in Rome, do as the Romans do"
Funny how a lot of people have said that bluray was unnecessary for gaming.
I think blu ray is even more significant to games than movies
BluRay
PS3 is the main BluRay seller so far – well with players costing $200+ and PS3 costing $399, why the heck not? Makes sense to me.
However BluRay players are dropping in price, and should retail for below $150 by the end of this year, and in sales and discounts they should go below $99.
The discs need to come down in price a bit. I think the biggest issue is that as long as new DVDs for main features come into stores at $15-20, the BluRay equivalent has to come in $5-10 above that purely because it isn't the same, it's six times the resolution/quality.
If DVDs were to migrate to the $10 mark for new releases and BluRay were to start occupying the $20 price point for new releases, BluRay discs would start to sell far better. In some ways, the content producers themselves have to push this transition by altering their price structure. This is what happened with VHS and DVD. Sony cannot make this happen on heir own, they need the other content producers to make the move to BluRay as their primary format.
As others have said, it will happen, it just takes time.
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That's the biggest issue I have. I go to buy a blu-ray off of Amazon.ca and often times it's $35.99 or more 😛 I've been buying the older cheaper blu-rays for around $20 right now, until the newest stuff comes down.
@Zemus
Yep, I've had to hold my BluRay purchases to very few full priced 'must haves' – OK there was only one of those, and the rest are discounted at Amazon or other online retailers.
Once BluRays drop to a realistic price on retail shelves things will improve.
Part of the problem is that the price of the player has been high enough for people to pause and wonder whether they should or not, and in the end I think many have chosen not, or have chosen to spend a little more and get the PS3.
With players going south of $150 (USD) at retail, far more people should choose to purchase instead of pause.
Just like the ps2 and DVD in the beginning.
ps3's gonna pass the other console in a couple of years
Once I know Sony is behind the driving force that is Blu-ray, I immediately buying all movies in Blu-ray format and ruled for HD-DVD to fail and I am glad Blu-ray eventually came out on the top.
"…in 2008, 60% of PS3 owners supposedly didn't even know their machine could play Blu-Ray movies."
Seriously, WTF?
I have a lot of issues with this statement as well. Most PS3 owners are mature and well informed, you'd have to be an idiot to invest so much money on something and not be aware of what it's capable of. I can see how this would be true if PS3's were flying off the shelves, but these are the same people that complain about the price of the PS3! I don't think average Joe Dirt will walk into a store and buy a ps3 without knowing where his money is going.
Not all ps3 owners are mature, but I do agree on the well informed part. Anyways, I can believe that 60% of ps3 owners were not aware of their system's capabilities (Blu ray of course) at that period of time. The playstation brand has always been popular amoungst gamers and even non-gamers. This has contributed greatly to the ps3's sales. Don't forget to incorporate the fact that Sony didn't advertise as much as they do now. You still make a good point, though 🙂
Typical Microsoft or Xbot response:
"But blu ray doesn't matter, it's done nothing for gaming"
***RANT***
If Microsoft is so righteous and they feel such idiotic statement holds any merit then how come they didn't use CD's to store their games when they released the first Xbox? Instead they ripped off Sony and went with DVD's. But wait…………….doesn't a blu ray disc hold more data than a dual layered DVD? In term of storage capacity for gaming, doesn't that make a blu ray disc better? The same comparism can be applied to the storage capacity of DVD's and CD's. Microsoft and their double standards along with their lies, bullying and greedy business tactics are ruining the gaming industry. Can you image the thought of playing an rpg with 200+ hours of gameplay? The possibilitites are endless, but such project will likely never see the light of day thanks to Microsoft. At least not from a third party developer. Why? Because they know their inferior piece of hardware wil not be able to handle it and they will try to make the experience "equal." Microsoft and the legions of sheep they've created are the cancer of the gaming industry.
Actually, the new argument is that DVD reads faster than Blu ray. WTF? Thats enough MS bashing, though; let's talk more about Blu ray. Yah!
bugsbunny
that's a real weak argument =D
50! WTF! That is a hardcore gamer…especially when you could be going out abusing senior discounts…ahh, I can only wait.
@ WageSLAVES,
Hell, nothing wrong with 50, I've already passed that 1/2 century mark myself, almost 6 & 2/3 years ago. LOL
And f*ck using a senior card, I don't want anything that will make me think I'm old.
Anyways, I have 12 gaming systems to keep me young, with 3 more coming within the year.
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Damn, I gotta watch what I say…I forget I'm 23 going on 24! Time is burning this candle at both ends, at least it seems.
And your right BikerSaint you guys were the ones that carried gaming and made it cool…much props!
I remember showing my Mum the Blu-Ray version of Batman the Dark Knight and she was very very impressed at what she saw (the opening IMAX sequence). My mom also needs glasses to watch films but I remember her taking it off just to see clearly, very ironic right there.
Yep, makes alot of sense, the only reason i have Blu-ray movies is because of my PS3, though i only have 5 which are all Stanley Kubricks Films. to be honest i dont think Blu-ray is really a big leap, certainly not a as grand as Video to DVD. The PS3 even upscales DVD's which still look phenominal. with 400+ DVD's i cant see myself converting anytime soon.
no big leap? you are funny. the sound alone is a huge leap…maybe you dont have a good setup that can decode true hd sound. i watched T2 on blu ray and i could hear the air coming out of the shotgun barrel when he cocked it…its just unreal.
My TV's half decent 32inch, suitable for my room and then the 50 inch TV in the living room, i also tested it out on there, yes it was good, but nothing spectacular. and lets face its 5 years from now there will be a new format out, you just have to question the point of bothering.
Going from VHS to DVD was simply a doubling of the number of lines from 240 to 480. DVD to BluRay is six times the resolution with lossless sound.
Explain please how this is "not a as grand as Video to DVD". Because that's patently untrue.
Scaled DVD is nice, but it's still scaled DVD, no detail is added, everything is smoothed and anti-aliased. For an illustration take a standard 640×480 image and scale it up to 1440×1080, then compare it with an image that is taken natively at 1440×1080. If you can't see the increase in quality, have your eyes checked as you may be suffering from some disorder of your vision.
Alternately get a DVD and BluRay version of a movie, and play them both back on a 46-inch screen. Pause the image at the same point in each and have a look at the screen. The fuzzy out of focus image is he DVD, the crystal clear image is he BluRay. You can try the same thing on a smaller screen, say for example a 22-inch monitor. The difference will be less apparent because the monitor is quite small. But the difference is still there if you look.
back then the picture size didnt matter, but what was better about VHS to DVD was the picture quality, We finaly got clean transfers, we dont get worn tape issues for fuzzy with marks all over the image, its clear, also the use of subtitles grew dramatically having the option to select what you wish.