Well, at least MGSV still looks like Metal Gear Solid .

Developers took the opportunity to show off gameplay for their anticipated productions at the Tokyo Game Show. This resulted in never-before-seen footage for Final Fantasy XV , Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain and Deep Down . We get plenty of gameplay for all three, and all were shown running on the PlayStation 4.

First up is FFXV, which is apparently an action game with some stats, but that's about what we expected, anyway. It's definitely a very pretty presentation, and there could be some platforming involved as well, as we see Noctis climbing around on an airship at one point. The combat is fast and furious and it's difficult to see where any of the role-playing elements might come into play. But who knows?

Next is MGSV, which shows off a very stealthy and competent Snake. He may be older but he still has all the moves, and that includes hiding the bodies of knocked out foes. He'll also have more gadgets than we've ever seen before, and the more open environment guarantees us more opportunities and freedom. This could be the most epic MGS ever created!

Last is Capcom's "online RPG," Deep Down , which is currently only confirmed for the PS4. This gameplay shows off something that is very reminiscent of Dark Souls , or perhaps a blend of the latter and The Elder Scrolls . It's dark and foreboding, and the main character must do battle with some seriously intimidating enemies. Personally, I lost interest when I found out you had to be connected to play, but the game still has tons of promise for those who like the idea.

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Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

FF's CG looks superb but they really got to amp up their realtime rendering engine. PS3's GoW and Uncharted look more impressive in this regard.
Game play looks really iffy too.

MGS looks awesome.

Don't care for Deep DOwn.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 9/19/2013 12:56:42 PM

daus26
daus26
9 years ago

No offense to Xbone, but it'll probably hold back FFXV's full potential in graphics, as for other multiplats. At least it has blu-ray now, so SE doesn't have to cut back on CG scenes.

But yeah, if you remember the Agnis trailer, I hope it can look close to that.

Solid Fantasy
Solid Fantasy
9 years ago

XV looks entertaining and seems to have some elements of Final Fantasy, but shouldn't a Final Fantasy just completely be a Final Fantasy and not just have elements?

And despite all fears MGSV still has plenty of stealth mechanic. Can't wait to play that one!

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

"Hey man, did you hear that the new Final Fantasy game will have Final Fantasy elements in it?"

"Oh wow man!"

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

I think FF has become a victim of it's own success. A multi-million dollar franchise rooted in yester-decades appeal of slower, often turn-based, strategy games surely can't rake in the millions in today's market, at least I suspect by S-E's reckoning. The combo of huge dev costs to compete at the AAA level, RPG sized scale, and the need for broadening it's base to cover the growing costs of such an undertaking is a risk S-E doesn't appear to want to take.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I think it's a victim of Square Enix, there are plenty more ways to appeal to modern gamers than to switch genres.

Solid Fantasy
Solid Fantasy
9 years ago

Based off of the losses that Enix is supposedly suffering I'm inclined to think they could try to recreate the yester decade and churn a profit. Remember when Square Soft through down what had to be a limitless credit card for the next FF installment. Anything to make sure FF stayed on top in the JRPG genre.
For sure our numbers are fewer than we used to be and couldn't hold a candle to the twitch gamer size. But come on it's Final Fantasy! People bought XIII when they didn't even respect it!

Akuma_
Akuma_
9 years ago

I agree, FFXV still looks like FF.

The gameplay mechanics are different, but don't forget that this title began as a spin-off.

I don't like the fact that everyone thought FFvsXIII looked great, but then as soon as they changed the name of the game, everyone is hating on it?

And about SE taking risks. Well they NEED to take risks, they have been doing the same thing, NOT taking risks, for the entire current generation, and they have lost millions because of that. Their reluctance to go back to their roots as RPG developers has been a bad decision for them. Especially considering a vast majority of the FF fanbase has been crying out for a traditional FF game for years, just like a FFVII remake, but they haven't listened to either of them.

They are not following their consumers, they are looking at the market, observing which titles are making the most money, and trying to adapt their business models as well as gameplay…. and it's NOT WORKING, because they are NOT western developers. SE management is one huge joke, and I can't understand why people have let this go on for so long now. I mean, how freaking long has FFXV been in dev now? I know we won't see KH3 for another 5 years.


Last edited by Akuma_ on 9/19/2013 11:11:30 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

What the hey? That's the same FFXV trailer we already saw.

Looks like a good action game but again not a Final Fantasy game.

Whatever goes on with it I can't ever think of it as FFXV, only as Versus.

Deep Down looks like they managed to turn an RPG into a shooter.


Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 9/19/2013 1:19:03 PM

daus26
daus26
9 years ago

I'm not sure I can agree with "shooter." I think I actually like having to pick a specific point on an enemy and have the enemy react to it, e.g. legs causing enemy to tumbles. It's too early for me to judge. I don't understand Japanese text so I can't tell what the options are, nor what other weapons will behave like. It's far from a button mashing game though.

Akuma_
Akuma_
9 years ago

I have no idea what you mean about Deep Down being a shooter…..

I believe the reason why SE turned Versus into a main franchise entry is because they don't have the ability to work on both a spin-off and a main entry any more. They don't seem to have the ambition or talent to do this either. They aren't the famed developers of yesteryear any more, they are like an 80 year old olympic gold medalist, top of the world once, but now just old, slow and tired.

Actually I would compare SE to Nokia. Both were the top of the industry back in their day, but now they are just trying to emulate the business model of other more successful companies, with mediocre results. I mean, SE won't go into bankruptcy any time soon, but I don't think we will see them at the top ever again either.

Work on Versus has taken far too long already, because they diverted most of the team to the XIII sequels.

And the fact that they considered a reboot like Tomb Raider as a commercial failure just proves that SE management is completely incompetent and misguided. Some people in the industry would sell a lung to see their game sell that many units.


Last edited by Akuma_ on 9/19/2013 11:19:21 PM

JackieBoy
JackieBoy
9 years ago

This FF dosn't look and feel like FF. I think 13 was my last one. It's going to the weird direction of "action, wheres the action? Just give me more action!"
Just give me FFX HD already…

Corvo
Corvo
9 years ago

It looks more like Demons Souls. Dark Souls has a brighter appeal while Demons Souls was always dark and had a no escape feel to it. Not to mention the armor the character was wearing looks similar to Ostrava of Boletarias.

daus26
daus26
9 years ago

FFXV should've stayed as Versus, or rather spin-off than a main entry into the tile. I don't what in their right mind made the decision. Even if they don't want to have it relate to FFXIII anymore, there's unlimited ways to name this game anything other than a main entry.

Other than that, I have no problems with it. It's what we all are expecting, just not as a main entry.

But yes, what the heck? As World mentioned, it's the exact same trailer as E3. Does SE like to show the same trailer to people?

daus26
daus26
9 years ago

Btw, does anyone know what console MGS was running on?

Also, I hear the open world is about the size of Red Dead Redemption. That would explain why Kojima was mourning about his own game regarding GTAV's scale and reveal, since GTAV is like 3 times the size of it.

PlatformGamerNZ
PlatformGamerNZ
9 years ago

well this is still and has been shaping up to be an interesting year for gamers hasn't it lots of new games annoounced and the TGS is no exception plus lots of 1st look game play.

happy gaming =)

DarthNemesis
DarthNemesis
9 years ago

I am done with FF and Deep Down is has been confirmed to have an offline or solo mode.

___________
___________
9 years ago

so,so, so disappointed deep down is a MMO!
i mean what a f*cking waste of such a awesome looking game!
whats with this gen and its obsession with MMOs?
as if the tyranny of drive club and destiny was not enough………

Lunar_Miyuki
Lunar_Miyuki
9 years ago

Deep down sort of reminds me more of a modern version of baulders gate from what i seen ill address the MMO obsession to you guys
MMO from 150 hours to 10000 hours of gameplay and 10k isn't an exaggeration
non MMO game 15 hours of gameplay to 200 hours of gameplay

FFXV its honestly what i expected ever since they announced it wasn't going to be a pure RPG 7 years ago

MGS not really a fan of