Before anyone labels this as some sort of anti-DLC rant, let me be clear:

Downloadable content, season passes, microtransactions, etc. all exist because they sell. People voluntarily pay for them. The market will bear it and to complain bitterly about it makes little sense. Cearly, publishers are making a lot of money on consumers who willingly fork over their cash for this extra content. I have zero problem with this. Don't like it? You can only lay the blame at the consumer's feet, as is typically the case.

That being said, I almost never bother with any of it. As far as I'm concerned, microtransactions are for the lazy and very often, they exist to further hook a totally addicted player. I've heard of people spending obscene sums of money on microtransactions for certain mobile games, for example. 99 percent of DLC that releases is multiplayer-oriented, which I don't care about, so I don't really partake. Same goes for Season Passes. But I did just get the Season Pass for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt and while I can't complain (I paid for it, after all), I can't help shaking this feeling…

It just feels as if I've been taken. I know CD Projekt Red didn't hold back this content just to make money on it later. I know that. I also don't believe developers or publishers make a common practice of this, despite all the conspiracy theories out there. And I suppose one could say that as I'm supposedly getting 30+ extra hours for $25, that's not a bad deal. But there's still this lingering annoyance that I just paid another $25 on top of the $60 back in May, and I'm just playing more of the same game.

Yeah, there are new missions and a new story and all that. I get it. Even so, it really is the same game, yes? It gave me an inexplicable yet uneasy feeling when I paid for this Season Pass, that's all, and I wonder if others have experienced the sensation as well. I doubt it – I find few gamers today are aligned with my beliefs, anyway – but I thought I'd ask.

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vatoloco47
vatoloco47
5 years ago

Most dlc's are not worth it from the ones iv gotten so far. I felt so ripped off when i got the Mortal Kombat X one only to find out newernewer dlc's were not included in the overpriced Kombat Pack..

SaiyanSenpai
SaiyanSenpai
5 years ago

Those season passes aren't worth it. Spent $50 on the COD Advanced Warfare season pass and didn't even touch any of the content. I hate when they charge for maps and have to segregate those from the regular rotation. No thanks. Plus, I had my fill after a month of playing.

Not doing that again.

frostface
frostface
5 years ago

Even with extra content coming 'free' as part of a GOTY edition, I rarely find myself getting into it.

Example, Dark Soul's 2 Scholars of the First Sin, amazing game in its own right and the dlc content was done right. But once I hit the credits on the base game, I tried getting back into the new areas but I just wasn't enthusiastic about it. I may even have restarted the base game again rather than play it.

But I do remember buying the season pass for Battlefield 4 and I feel I got my moneys worth.

So I suppose I'm not really into campaign dlc now that I think about it.

With the exception of Tell Tale Games or Life is Strange episode passes, were it works out cheaper for the whole package. It's just a shame there's not a well laid out time frame for when each episode is released.

edit: Can't believe I forgot to mention Destiny. I feel my hand was forced into getting The Taken King as weapons were nerfed and parts of the game where restricted. Having said that, I did break and bought TTK and it's amazing. In fact I'd argue everything up to it was a beta and TTK is the real game.

But I'm not a fan of how I was manipulated into getting it. Yet I have no one else to blame but myself, because end of the day I decided to part with my money.


Last edited by frostface on 10/14/2015 1:39:17 AM

Jawknee
Jawknee
5 years ago

Yes. Of all the ones I bought, I was over the game by the time the DLC released. Waste of money most of the time.

I didn't even finish the first DLC pack for Bioshock Infinite let alone touch the second one. Same with the Evil Within stuff. Maybe one day I'll force myself to play them just so I feel like I didn't waste my money.


Last edited by Jawknee on 10/14/2015 2:48:49 AM

Bonampak
Bonampak
5 years ago

What happened with Destiny with the TTK DLC left a very bad taste in my mouth.

People feeling left out… the whole segregation thing. Forcing us to pay or miss out big time with the expansion. And considering how bare bones the original game was, most feel like they have to cough up the cash.

The lack of respect for us consumers/players is another thing that bothers me.

But as long as we pay… we can't really complain, right?

rogers71
rogers71
5 years ago

I bought the season pass for Batman and I have the same feeling you have Ben. It left such a bad taste in my mouth that I will never buy another season pass again. I love Rocksteady and bought the season pass to support them but, like you, I felt cheated. The story modes that came with the season pass just didn't feel as complete as the main game. After I beat the game, I was done and didn't feel like playing anymore. There were still about 4 months of DLC to come out when I finished the game and I was over it. Waste of money. That was my first and last time buying DLC for a game.

Godslim
Godslim
5 years ago

I dont because they are very expensive and would rather just buy another game. Especially because Im usually finished with the game by the time they start releasing dlc but also because the content usually isnt really worth it.


Last edited by Godslim on 10/14/2015 6:34:00 AM

bldudas1
bldudas1
5 years ago

I don't buy season passes, because I have a feeling the content won't be worth it. And from what I read about the DLC, it rarely is.

FM23
FM23
5 years ago

I never buy season passes. I scuffed at the thought of paying $40 for that horrible Batman Ak pass. But like you, I couldn't help but purchase that W3 season pass. I didn't play Witcher 3 for the gameplay, but more the story and Hearts of Stone seems like a great pick up in that regard. Driveclub is probably the only other game I willingly paid money for dlc and didn't regret it. There was one for red faction guerilla too back in the day I really enjoyed. Outside of that, meh.

Bio
Bio
5 years ago

Season passes are like pre-orders, in that it's just a scam to get your money up front so they don't have to care on the deliverables.

To say there's no reason to complain about it because "the market will bear it" is weird. The market bears a lot of things because there are a lot of stupid people buying stupid things. That doesn't make certain retail practices any less predatory.

That's especially true when you're talking about an industry where one of the major demographics is easily impressionable teenage boys buying stuff at GameStop with their parents' money. Kids are dumb, and their parents are ill informed, and GameStop knows that. More people should be complaining about this crap, not fewer.


Last edited by Bio on 10/14/2015 10:27:22 AM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
5 years ago

None of that changes the fact that it's always a consumer's responsibility, and no fault of anyone's but their own. When I was a teenager, I would've laughed at the idea. When I was a kid, my parents would've as well. You don't make excuses for stupid people; that's giving stupid people a pass, which is essentially all we know how to do.

"Predatory" retail practices only exist because the prey is too easy, and this isn't natural selection. The prey wasn't born weaker. The prey has it in them to not be fodder.


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 10/14/2015 10:49:33 AM

Bio
Bio
5 years ago

You read a lot of Ayn Rand, I take it.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
5 years ago

I only believe a person's life is their responsibility and nobody else's. That is an a priori truth that began with Aristotle and will always be irrefutably true.

"I vow, by my life and my love of it, that I will never live my life for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."

And by the way, I read everything.


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 10/14/2015 1:12:10 PM

pavlovic
pavlovic
5 years ago

I remeber my firts pieces of "aditional content" were maps for Socom 2 or 3 in the PS2 era. You had to buy the Opm to get a CD, install them on the PS2's HDD and play. The first time I got segregated from my friendas with whom I used to play.

Same thing with ROFM maps on PS3.

I have only bought 2 season passes: Uncharted 2 and The Last of Us. I don't regret, but nowadays if I'm going to buy some DLC I prefer to wait the time when it comes available and if I'm still into that game maybe I get it.

I know I will buy Uncharted 4 single player DLC, but not sure to pay for the season pass.

Underdog15
Underdog15
5 years ago

Almost always a waste of money. Half the stuff out there doesn't come out for half a year or even more after the fact.

It didn't have a season pass, but WKC2 never delivered on their DLC promise…

slugga_status
slugga_status
5 years ago

I've never purchased a season pass for that exact reason. Hell, there have been instances in which I was mad buying dlc after I've experienced what it had to offer.

Rogueagent01
Rogueagent01
5 years ago

Season passes aren't for me and i highly doubt i will ever buy one. A lot of people buy them for the discount, however if i like your game and think you did a good job i will gladly pay full price for the dlc that interests me.

TheOldOne
TheOldOne
5 years ago

If it is proportional with the content of the main game and the cost, good. But is never the case. Playing a 100+ hours $60 game and then paying $10~$20 for a DLC of 10 hours or even a $40 season pass for two or three like those is a ripoff. Sometimes they only release 1 or 2 DLCs and the rest are just costumes and a couple of 20 mins side quests. But, as long as people pay extra that will be the $ model.

Bio
Bio
1 year ago

You read a lot of Ayn Rand, I take it.

bldudas1
bldudas1
1 year ago

I don&#39t buy season passes, because I have a feeling the content won&#39t be worth it. And from what I read about the DLC, it rarely is.

Bio
Bio
1 year ago

Season passes are like pre-orders, in that it&#39s just a scam to get your money up front so they don&#39t have to care on the deliverables.

To say there&#39s no reason to complain about it because "the market will bear it" is weird. The market bears a lot of things because there are a lot of stupid people buying stupid things. That doesn&#39t make certain retail practices any less predatory.

That&#39s especially true when you&#39re talking about an industry where one of the major demographics is easily impressionable teenage boys buying stuff at GameStop with their parents&#39 money. Kids are dumb, and their parents are ill informed, and GameStop knows that. More people should be complaining about this crap, not fewer.

Last edited by Bio on 10/14/2015 10:27:22 AM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
1 year ago

None of that changes the fact that it&#39s always a consumer&#39s responsibility, and no fault of anyone&#39s but their own. When I was a teenager, I would&#39ve laughed at the idea. When I was a kid, my parents would&#39ve as well. You don&#39t make excuses for stupid people; that&#39s giving stupid people a pass, which is essentially all we know how to do.

"Predatory" retail practices only exist because the prey is too easy, and this isn&#39t natural selection. The prey wasn&#39t born weaker. The prey has it in them to not be fodder.

Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 10/14/2015 10:49:33 AM

FM23
FM23
1 year ago

I never buy season passes. I scuffed at the thought of paying $40 for that horrible Batman Ak pass. But like you, I couldn&#39t help but purchase that W3 season pass. I didn&#39t play Witcher 3 for the gameplay, but more the story and Hearts of Stone seems like a great pick up in that regard. Driveclub is probably the only other game I willingly paid money for dlc and didn&#39t regret it. There was one for red faction guerilla too back in the day I really enjoyed. Outside of that, meh.

slugga_status
slugga_status
1 year ago

I&#39ve never purchased a season pass for that exact reason. Hell, there have been instances in which I was mad buying dlc after I&#39ve experienced what it had to offer.

TheOldOne
TheOldOne
1 year ago

If it is proportional with the content of the main game and the cost, good. But is never the case. Playing a 100+ hours $60 game and then paying $10~$20 for a DLC of 10 hours or even a $40 season pass for two or three like those is a ripoff. Sometimes they only release 1 or 2 DLCs and the rest are just costumes and a couple of 20 mins side quests. But, as long as people pay extra that will be the $ model.

Bonampak
Bonampak
1 year ago

What happened with Destiny with the TTK DLC left a very bad taste in my mouth.

People feeling left out… the whole segregation thing. Forcing us to pay or miss out big time with the expansion. And considering how bare bones the original game was, most feel like they have to cough up the cash.

The lack of respect for us consumers/players is another thing that bothers me.

But as long as we pay… we can&#39t really complain, right?

rogers71
rogers71
1 year ago

I bought the season pass for Batman and I have the same feeling you have Ben. It left such a bad taste in my mouth that I will never buy another season pass again. I love Rocksteady and bought the season pass to support them but, like you, I felt cheated. The story modes that came with the season pass just didn&#39t feel as complete as the main game. After I beat the game, I was done and didn&#39t feel like playing anymore. There were still about 4 months of DLC to come out when I finished the game and I was over it. Waste of money. That was my first and last time buying DLC for a game.

frostface
frostface
1 year ago

Even with extra content coming &#39free&#39 as part of a GOTY edition, I rarely find myself getting into it.

Example, Dark Soul&#39s 2 Scholars of the First Sin, amazing game in its own right and the dlc content was done right. But once I hit the credits on the base game, I tried getting back into the new areas but I just wasn&#39t enthusiastic about it. I may even have restarted the base game again rather than play it.

But I do remember buying the season pass for Battlefield 4 and I feel I got my moneys worth.

So I suppose I&#39m not really into campaign dlc now that I think about it.

With the exception of Tell Tale Games or Life is Strange episode passes, were it works out cheaper for the whole package. It&#39s just a shame there&#39s not a well laid out time frame for when each episode is released.

edit: Can&#39t believe I forgot to mention Destiny. I feel my hand was forced into getting The Taken King as weapons were nerfed and parts of the game where restricted. Having said that, I did break and bought TTK and it&#39s amazing. In fact I&#39d argue everything up to it was a beta and TTK is the real game.

But I&#39m not a fan of how I was manipulated into getting it. Yet I have no one else to blame but myself, because end of the day I decided to part with my money.

Last edited by frostface on 10/14/2015 1:39:17 AM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
1 year ago

I only believe a person&#39s life is their responsibility and nobody else&#39s. That is an a priori truth that began with Aristotle and will always be irrefutably true.

"I vow, by my life and my love of it, that I will never live my life for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."

And by the way, I read everything.

Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 10/14/2015 1:12:10 PM

Underdog15
Underdog15
1 year ago

Almost always a waste of money. Half the stuff out there doesn&#39t come out for half a year or even more after the fact.

It didn&#39t have a season pass, but WKC2 never delivered on their DLC promise…

vatoloco47
vatoloco47
1 year ago

Most dlc&#39s are not worth it from the ones iv gotten so far. I felt so ripped off when i got the Mortal Kombat X one only to find out newernewer dlc&#39s were not included in the overpriced Kombat Pack..

Godslim
Godslim
1 year ago

I dont because they are very expensive and would rather just buy another game. Especially because Im usually finished with the game by the time they start releasing dlc but also because the content usually isnt really worth it.

Last edited by Godslim on 10/14/2015 6:34:00 AM

SaiyanSenpai
SaiyanSenpai
1 year ago

Those season passes aren&#39t worth it. Spent $50 on the COD Advanced Warfare season pass and didn&#39t even touch any of the content. I hate when they charge for maps and have to segregate those from the regular rotation. No thanks. Plus, I had my fill after a month of playing.

Not doing that again.

Jawknee
Jawknee
1 year ago

Yes. Of all the ones I bought, I was over the game by the time the DLC released. Waste of money most of the time.

I didn&#39t even finish the first DLC pack for Bioshock Infinite let alone touch the second one. Same with the Evil Within stuff. Maybe one day I&#39ll force myself to play them just so I feel like I didn&#39t waste my money.

Last edited by Jawknee on 10/14/2015 2:48:49 AM

Rogueagent01
Rogueagent01
1 year ago

Season passes aren&#39t for me and i highly doubt i will ever buy one. A lot of people buy them for the discount, however if i like your game and think you did a good job i will gladly pay full price for the dlc that interests me.

pavlovic
pavlovic
1 year ago

I remeber my firts pieces of "aditional content" were maps for Socom 2 or 3 in the PS2 era. You had to buy the Opm to get a CD, install them on the PS2&#39s HDD and play. The first time I got segregated from my friendas with whom I used to play.

Same thing with ROFM maps on PS3.

I have only bought 2 season passes: Uncharted 2 and The Last of Us. I don&#39t regret, but nowadays if I&#39m going to buy some DLC I prefer to wait the time when it comes available and if I&#39m still into that game maybe I get it.

I know I will buy Uncharted 4 single player DLC, but not sure to pay for the season pass.