Microsoft's popularity meter must be registering at an all-time low right now.

In the past, the company has been accused of buying off developers and publishers to erase exclusive franchises for Sony. Now it seems they're doing it again, only it's even more blatant and embarrassing this time around.

Check out the latest report at Gamer.Blorge , where they first cite a Kotaku report that said Microsoft is throwing some weight around in an attempt to lock out games on the PS4.

In fact, the company is rumored to have spent around $1 billion in game investments and now, NeoGAF poster famousmortimer (who accurately leaked the PS4's launch lineup before the PlayStation Meeting in February) has heard more nastiness: It seems MS is spending a ton of money to keep publishers from showing their games running on the PS4 at E3 2013:

"I’ve talked to more people since then though and this isn’t the usual jostling for publishers on stage that happens at E3. Microsoft is throwing BIG money around to reverse course on idea that they aren’t a games console. The rumors are that PS4 versions of multiplats, by those who do take the money, won’t be shown AT ALL. Not on stage and not on the show floor."

For the record, Microsoft has canceled their roundtable discussion at E3 and they've also been canceling one-on-one interviews with various publications. Obviously, this leads one to the belief that they're sticking only with friendly sources as they don't want to risk incurring further public damage. famousmortimer also says Microsoft secured an exclusive partnership with Insomniac Games, who is now independent but once produced games exclusively for the PlayStation platform. There's also talk of Mirror's Edge 2 and Hawken being Xbox One exclusives.

If Microsoft can pay EA enough to make any one of their franchises exclusive to the Xbox One, Sony could be in trouble. I don't think anyone expected MS to be spending that kind of money. Of course, with reports like these getting a lot of attention, Microsoft isn't exactly in a great position, either. In fact, people are getting pissed .

Canceling the E3 roundtable? Cowards.

Thanks, Ross!

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Cpt_Geez
Cpt_Geez
7 years ago

Microsoft is going down its true that they system has to be online to play video games. Sony has E3 all rapped up all they have to do is show games.

frylock25
frylock25
7 years ago

and the system. they need to show games and the ps4 itself


Last edited by frylock25 on 6/9/2013 11:04:41 PM

Cpt_Geez
Cpt_Geez
7 years ago

Right they have to show the system.

Nix50
Nix50
7 years ago

Sony's got it in the bag but it's a shame that Microsoft has to ruin things like they are. Healthy competition is good but this is just plain stupid.

Bonampak
Bonampak
7 years ago

Sony has E3 in the bag. No doubts about that one.

Problem is, I was reading this story about how at amazon UK the Xbone is at the top in terms of pre-orders.

So despite the negative feedback, ludicrous DRM and questionable tactics, the masses out there are still behind the Xbone.

This just shows that casuals do not frequent gaming sites or read up on the issues that plague the Xbone.

Sony might have the E3 in the bag, but MS has the sheepheads in the bag.

Kryten1029a
Kryten1029a
7 years ago

Every time that I think that Microsoft has hit rock bottom, they manage to plumb new depths. This kind of anti-competitive guff is what brought the Department of Justice down on them in the 90's. Did no one in Redmond learn anything from that?
How did they even expect to get away with it? They can't have seriously believed that nobody would talk especially after hardware details leaked months ago! Spending this kind of money for such trivial gains tells me that they're really panicking!

LoneRanger1975
LoneRanger1975
7 years ago

My feelings are if MS decides to try and get a Multiplat game limited exclusive for them (Say three months) or permanent then they have to really come through for that publisher. If I ama multiplat publasher like Bioware and EA do I really want to pass up Sony customer $$$ on the next Dragon's Age? Does Ubisoft want only half a pie on Assassins Creed? I doubt it. There may be limited exclusivity agreements but unless MS says they will forego any $$$ and allow the publisher to get the entire pie thus evening out the lack of Sony $$$ then there is no way MS wins. Least my opinion.

shadowscorpio
shadowscorpio
7 years ago

I agree . Square Enix got into bed with MS and though that wasn't the only means to their now gradual downfall, it certainly contributed.

By doing this, SE alienated most of their original fanbase, most likely accepting big payouts by MS. Yet, SE has taken enormous financial loses. Was it worth it?

I'd like to think that other developers/publishers observe their competition's activities and situations. Like you, I believe pubs & devs aren't going to go along with MS unless they themselves can guarantee their security by doing so. They won't sacrifice their financial stability for the future just because the money looks good today, given that which has happened in the past.

At least I'd like to think so.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
7 years ago

If this is indeed the case, I have lost all respect for Microsoft as a company.

Sure, I was never happy with them following the 360, but this is absolutely ridiculous.

When I was employed by a Steel Mill eleven years ago, layoffs were happening as the industry was struggling. The reason I mention this is because certain people would do everything in their power to make you look bad in order to make themselves look better.

We called it — "Put their candle out to make yours look brighter".

Shame on you Microsoft (if it's true.)


Last edited by maxpontiac on 6/9/2013 10:38:07 PM

shadowscorpio
shadowscorpio
7 years ago

I think Apple and Sony might concur.

MeXiCaNFiGhTe12
MeXiCaNFiGhTe12
7 years ago

What a shame.

Nix50
Nix50
7 years ago

+1000000

Corvo
Corvo
7 years ago

And to think, i was going to pity MS. This move has completely reversed it. I am proud to be a Playstation fanboy. Least Sony doesnt go around doing this. Same can be said for Nintendo. We need honest competitors, not lying cheating bribing SOBs. Bring E3 on, and let MS crumble some more.

shadowscorpio
shadowscorpio
7 years ago

You said it.

Xombito
Xombito
7 years ago

First off, they can have Insomniac Games. Their games have been lacking lately and Sony has plenty of elite level devs. No big loss. I knew it though, MS is freaking out at this point. Its complete BS what their doing. They're not confident in their own product so they buy developers?

Jaylynn
Jaylynn
7 years ago

Sad if it's true. I mean if I were the publishers I wouldn't even go near Microsoft at the moment. You don't want to be that guy who caved in because they offered you a truck load money and when you look at the game on their system and it ends up looking like crap. Don't be stupid publishers, go with the guy with the hot hand and right now that guy is Sony.

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
7 years ago

Problem is, the games won't look like crap. The general audience will automatically associate all these new titles with the new XBox and that is what MS are counting on.

Anonymous
Anonymous
7 years ago

This rumor may be the single dumbest thing I've read on the internet for quite some time. What possible motivation would multibillion dollar publisher have to gain from sabotaging their own product. No price MS could offer would be high enough. And taking into account that even if a game is not at E3, subsequent ads and previews will reflect the fact the games ARE available for the PS4. And finally, in an event exclusive to gaming press and industry insiders, wouldn't glaring omissions of key multiplat titles raise a huge red flag? With articles like this going around to feed the ire of the impressionable, I cannot blame MS for cancelling that roundtable until they get all of facts finalized. MS is trying to make a statement with games and nothing else. No need to let the press rip open the old wounds of used games, every 24 hour connection, etc, etc.

As far as Microsoft aggressively getting exclusives, that seems like a good thing to me. Unless Sony is making games with fairy dust and the laughter of children, I don't see the problem, unless you want it to be like the olden days of PS exclusive domination. Sony didn't develop games like Heavy Rain and LittleBigPlanet in-house, they bought them. With money.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
7 years ago

You can't blame MS for cancelling their roundtable? Either can I. It would be like shooting themselves in the foot.

Plus, the 24 hour or else rule (for example) can't be considered old wounds. The XBone has yet to be released yet.

Speaking of wounds, I have a feeling that MS itself will be remembering the launch of the XBone as painful.


Last edited by maxpontiac on 6/9/2013 11:36:30 PM

MeXiCaNFiGhTe12
MeXiCaNFiGhTe12
7 years ago

Regardless if this is true or not Microsoft is F-ing up overall. I like to be open minded but at this point I really don't think Microsoft is in a good position.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
7 years ago

Canceling interviews with the press is counterproductive. All that will do is incite further negative headlines and backlash. Furthermore, it's downright cowardly and implies that all the rumors are correct. How hard is it to stand up there and clarify everything if the rumors are false and the news is good?

The only possible explanation for canceling official interviews with sources is to dodge questions because MS doesn't want to give the answers right now. And the only reason to not give answers is because you know nobody will like those answers.

Furthermore, Microsoft has paid to keep the PlayStation logo off multiplatform games in the past. In fact, they do it ALL the time with Call of Duty, which is why certain morons actually thought Ghosts was an Xbox 360/Xbox One exclusive when it was announced. Any particular reason they wouldn't continue the practice at an E3 where they have to go head-to-head with a competitor?


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 6/9/2013 11:54:07 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

Where have you been Kid? This is classic MS practice in all other business and developers need money so some will take the sure thing up front.

Anonymous
Anonymous
7 years ago

I think cancelling the media events is a smart move. It allows them to control the flow of information. They've been in panic mode and I think they hoping that the games will at least give them a bit of good news until they can figure out what the hell they are going to do in terms of making the system more game friendly.

I've already said why I don't think that they would take it as far as that. If You choose meld their practice of ad campaigns to believe the rumor, that's cool. I don't see how it would benefit them at all to do this. Now if you were to say that a company decided to take Microsoft's offer to appear at their event, with the caveat that the same game cannot be shown at Sony's event, I can buy that. I'm sure Sony has the same type of stipulation. But to have the game not to appear anywhere at E3? Bah! That's insanity. But I guess we will see if it is true, in a few days.

Actually, now that I think about it, this rumor MAY have some weight. It's just worded to make it sound sinister. If MS went to companies and offered to pay so that their system was the defacto demo unit, yeah, that would be likely. It still doesn't seem like a terrible thing to me, though. Seems like good business.

anithedoc
anithedoc
7 years ago

hey are u 1 of those people who microsoft hired to damage control on social sites and forum…cuz there has an employee from 1 such sites editorial dept and he told people that microsoft is payiing huge money to companites like reddit and others to manage comments ie…there people are going on to the social sites to change the ratio of comments in the favor of microsoft…if u r GO F YOURSELF

MeXiCaNFiGhTe12
MeXiCaNFiGhTe12
7 years ago

I don't think that's nice man. Everybody has an opinion and no one deserves the F word.

Beamboom
Beamboom
7 years ago

Until we know more I choose to take KidPresentables stance in this. This gotta be a rumour that may have root in reality but is blown completely out of proportions.

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
7 years ago

Ben is right regarding current gen multiplatform titles. I don't recall ever seeing a TV add for a Multiplat ending with a PS3 logo. It's always XBox. The only reason for this would be if they were being paid to advertise as such. That way the mums, dads and little Timmy's of the world will associate all those great games with 1 particular brand.

Troy Powers
Troy Powers
7 years ago

"…even if a game is not at E3, subsequent ads and previews will reflect the fact the games ARE available for the PS4."

I suppose you've never seen a commercial for a multi-plat game that ends with a huge Xbox logo.

I also wonder if you're not one of the people being paid to comment on forums.

Simcoe
Simcoe
7 years ago

@anithedoc and Troy Powers
It's called Astroturfing.

Also, I don't see a problem if MS buys advertising air time and decides to fill it with commercials for multiplatform games, what publisher is going to pass up free advertising. Heck Sony does it from time-to-time too, just not as frequently as MS.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
7 years ago

Yeah, I've been wondering about that as well…it's a little suspicious that this guy signed up to post on a PlayStation-oriented website the instant Xbox One was announced and the negative headlines started to fly. And trying to pretend that the 360 can compete with the PS3 in the exclusive software category is so illogical that one has to wonder…

I've been in journalism for a long time, Kid. You're not right in thinking that Microsoft canceling scheduled interviews is a "smart move." No journalist on earth, in any field, would agree with that. It might be smart if those interviews weren't already scheduled, and there was little in the flow of actual information.

But they were scheduled; you already promised to talk, and the information is out there, waiting to be refuted. Rumors need to be refuted, too; when they're not, you're admitting guilt. That's like running away from the scene of a crime. Even if you didn't do it, you immediately look guilty and the press will DESTROY you for that.

It isn't smart. It's desperate. It's damage control. And everyone – except you, of course – sees that. So maybe a few people here have asked the right question, especially after rumors that Microsoft is implanting people in places like Reddit to stem the tide of damaging information. So DO you have an agenda or is that just silly? I think it's silly…we're not a big enough site for Microsoft to care about us and you did say you didn't like MS for doing something recently (I forget what).

Still, based on how illogical and ill-informed your posts have been regarding MS (and the PlayStation brand), you'll understand such a question from our members.

For the record, I don't put stock in baseless rumors, either. I just know MS's business practices, as others do.


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 6/10/2013 11:24:53 AM

Anonymous
Anonymous
7 years ago

You know, Ben. not too long ago I read a discussion you had with someone where you adamantly stated, "No one gets attacked here for an opinion" This thread here is Exhibit A disproving that. Why in this wide world of gamers, millions of them, you would think that everyone has to think one way is incredibly myopic. You've accused me of trying to 'educate' people on this site. WHY? I state my opinions and if I'm questioned, I do my best to defend my stance. I don't attack others comments. I don't say Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo are the 'best'. I've stated clearly that I enjoy all of them because they reach bring something a little different to the table.

Yes, MS is in a desperate mode. But not doing is the press, is a smart move if you don't want to ruin the games aspect of your show. Right now, I don't think MS has concrete answers to the questions that will be asked. So they really need to go back to the drawing board. Why would it be a 'smart' decision to do the press, especially when they may not have the right things to say?

No,I still don't believe the rumor, even going by MS shady business past. And after seeing the show and the majority of what was shown was exclusive, the tonite holds zero weight with me now. But $499 for a console that bricks in 24 hours? That's gonna be a tough sell for me. Even with Killer Instinct.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
7 years ago

Nobody attacked you. We asked a very simple question, which, by the way, you haven't actually answered.

You can't honestly think you're 100% innocent. You sign up for a PlayStation-centric website and then produce dozens of posts in defense of Microsoft, and then act all put-upon when people go against your opinion. I mean, give me a break.

Outside of the person who told you to go fu** yourself (who is not a regular and I've never seen before), you've been treated remarkably well for an obvious Microsoft fan at a PlayStation website. What people don't quite like is you stating your opinion as fact, while not being well educated on the PlayStation platform.

I told you I've been in journalism for a while. I told you nobody in that field would say what Microsoft did in avoiding the press is "smart." Rather than even acknowledge that, you just persist in your own belief, which holds no water whatsoever. The issue is never whether you have the answers or not; the issue is that you must address the bad blood out there ASAP or it will inevitably get worse.

That's a fact. That's not opinion. As for the rest, I would strongly suggest not constantly – and I mean constantly, continually – giving Microsoft the benefit of the doubt, especially in a place where there aren't a whole lot of MS fans. You say you're here because you're more interested in the PS4. Really? We see no evidence of that. The ONLY time you seem to post is when Microsoft is involved. Or rather, your longest and most emotional posts are in Microsoft-related topics.

Exactly what conclusions are we to draw from that? Other than that you probably don't own a PS3, never owned a PlayStation platform, know shockingly little about its elite games, and might just have ulterior motives? I'm sure you can understand that.


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 6/10/2013 4:53:52 PM

VampDeLeon
VampDeLeon
7 years ago

It's never nice to see users ganging over someone a comment, regardless on whose in the wrong.

Anonymous
Anonymous
7 years ago

Ben, they've answered the questions. People just didn't like the answers. So the press is now going in for sensationalist articles to go for the jugular. They tried todo it with Nintendo and they tried to do it with Sony at the beginning of this generation. The gaming media has no accountability to anyone but themselves. rumors are printed as facts or printed as "This is a rumor" wink wink "but you know it must be true"

As far as the attacking, yes it pretty much is here. I don't mind the thumbs downs. I expect that posting anything giving MS recognition, even if it's factBut to be told to F off and then accused of being some sort of mole is pretty nuts. I didn't respond because it's too silly to dignify. But the fact that you'll come at me, upright and omniscient every time I dare say Uncharted 3 wasn't my favorite gaming experience yet you'll say nothing to someone who tells another to F Off simply for staying an opinion, as unpopular as it may be, speaks volumes. Maybe you agree with him? So, no, I don't understand anyone making any assumptions about me beyond 'Damn, this guy is always wrong!' That I'm okay with.

As long as you don't have an issue, I think I should still be able to post what comes to mind when I read an article. Pro MS, Pro Nintendo, Pro Sony.

Jawknee
Jawknee
7 years ago

These kinds of sleazy tactics are a pattern with MS. I have no reason NOT to believe this rumor.

cLoudou
cLoudou
7 years ago

Should anyone be surprised, it is MS ya know?

Ultima
Ultima
7 years ago

Unconfirmed rumour. This would be so monumentally stupid, not to mention a complete waste of money (it's E3, i.e. for gaming press, not a public event), that I refuse to believe it until proof is provided. Even the guy on neogaf who originally mentioned the rumour says he doesn't vouch for this.

I'm not saying it can't or won't happen. I'm just saying I need proof before I start jumping on Microsoft for this.

Maybe if I thought it had a chance of succeeding, I could acknowledge it as a (scummy) business tactic, but I can't see this being anything but temporarily and marginally effective at best.

However, I agree that Microsoft can keep Insomniac. No big loss there.


Last edited by Ultima on 6/9/2013 11:39:33 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

You.. uhhh… don't think E3 is a public event?

Xombito
Xombito
7 years ago

I think he means E3 is not open to the public. But yeah, we know what you mean. ūüôā


Last edited by Xombito on 6/10/2013 12:34:09 AM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

Not surprised at all here, if this is the case then that's just par for MS. I can't see developers embracing this kind of business practice though. I really hope this console generation is their downfall.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
7 years ago

It acts like M$ is in a desperate position right now.

Banky A
Banky A
7 years ago

i dont really believe this.

all i know is that if insomniac get funding to make the definitive multiplayer ratchet & clank with a full story (like R&C up your arsenal) exclusively for microsoft then im going to be pissed.

Simcoe
Simcoe
7 years ago

Sony owns the R&C IP. Perhaps MS signed on to make FUSE 2 an exclusive, that or an entirely new IP.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

Don't people recall that they've done this to all their competitors on all levels of business?

tes37
tes37
7 years ago

Even if this isn't true, MS will always be the turd in the punch bowl.

I wouldn't give one red cent to a company that would rather spend money on bribery, than on improving the products they try to sell to me.

StopTheWorldNow
StopTheWorldNow
7 years ago

It's time Sony… Time to take out the Xbox. In my opinion they have lasted too long in the industry for what they are worth. If Sony continues to markets the PS4 correctly and does a smashing job at E3, the PS4 should dominate over the new Xbox. It has already got the upper hand, it's time for a final blow to microsofts fat corporate face…

Ultima
Ultima
7 years ago

Yuck. Well, another poster on NeoGAF who has been spot on with insider information has "confirmed" this rumour. He says that (paraphrasing) "if a 3rd party doesn't say 'OUR GAME IS EXCLUSIVE FOR XBONE;", assume there's a PS4 version". Sigh. Well, it's MS's money I guess.

On a somewhat related note, the poster also claims that "XBone's DRM is WORSE THAN YOU THINK". Yeesh.


Last edited by Ultima on 6/10/2013 2:14:13 AM

wiley_kyotee
wiley_kyotee
7 years ago

Well if the Xbox One DRM is truly that thorough, wouldn't this make publishers happy? Less used units of their games being sold, or at least they will get a piece of the pie on all used game sales. This might make them more apt to accept MS's money to only show the game running on the XBox.

Beamboom
Beamboom
7 years ago

I don't know… Surely this must be a rumour that might have root in reality, but is blown completely out of proportions.

That MS has paid for their system to be the system multiplat games are demonstrated on, and the Xbox logo being shown at the end of presentations and so forth, now THAT I can believe, that's "business as usual" as far as I am concerned.

But to have companies not show up at E3 *at all*? To pay them simply disappear from the radar during E3?! Get outta here.
This is something that is *guaranteed* to be leaked after the event. It is simply something that can't be held a secret. And to have that backfiring on MS on the critical few months before launch?

Naaah – I have a hard time believing this. Microsoft are crude businessmen and would probably have done it could they get away with it. But they can't possibly think they can.

On the other side: Them cancelling the media events, now that is puzzling. There *is* something wrong in this picture. Something is going on.

I guess we'll have to wait and see. But as of now, I take this with a huge pinch of salt.

MeXiCaNFiGhTe12
MeXiCaNFiGhTe12
7 years ago

Yeah I agree but then again it would be interesting and cool if this was true.