Yeah, I know you haven't played it yet.

But with the massive amount of media and the loads of early reviews out there, you've got a very good idea of what to expect. I mean, we already know Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is, at the very least, a Game of the Year contender .

That being said, based on what you know – and maybe what you've played in Ground Zeroes – where do you think MGSV will rank on your personal series scale? It's always a question worth asking when you're talking about a franchise with so many entries. Hell, Final Fantasy fans can talk about this all day. MGS fans are only slightly less rabid about this particular subject, and I'm wondering what the die-hards have to say.

As I put a premium on storytelling in this particular franchise, I'm a little concerned by what I've been reading (which in turn prompted this editorial ), so I'm thinking MGSV won't be at the top of my list. I guess it's still MGS3, with the disclaimer that I wasn't really into the genre when the first MGS arrived, and MGS2 got shelved when I got Grand Theft Auto III . Even so, I have no doubt I'll enjoy MGSV.

How's about you?

Related Game(s): Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

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Jalex
Jalex
5 years ago

'Guns of the Patriots' will be tough to beat. I loved the story and my only issue with the gameplay was infinitely respawning enemies (in certain areas), which hindered my tactics.
I won't judge the story of 'The Phantom Pain' until I actually experience it, but even if it isn't as good as some of the others, I rate games more on technical proficiency than anything else. Based on the reviews released so far, the only problem seems to be extremely uncommon, but apparently the A.I. can muck up player plans thru stupid means (especially in vehicles). Otherwise, it seems to be completely worthy of the 'Metal Gear' name.

Solaire
Solaire
5 years ago

You said it bossman. I can't wait. Where did you find this news about the enemy's AI?

souljah92
souljah92
5 years ago

I think the original mgs/twin snakes and mgs4 are top, but the bosses in mgs3 were fantastic, i also always wonder why mgs portable ops was never given a port to ps3 i mean i think that game was pretty awesome and it's actually a part of the story line taking place after mgs3

Bio
Bio
5 years ago

Portable Ops never got an HD re-release because it sucks. You can tell even Kojima hates it by the way it's never mentioned in promotional material for MGS5, whereas every other main installment, including Peace Walker, is.

Jalex
Jalex
5 years ago

@Solaire:
The Telegraph review (which gave it a perfect score despite these complaints) mentions an instance where an enemy is run over by another enemy, and the entire area going on alert because they react as if they've been attacked. They also cite an instance where an extraction target repeatedly committed suicide by driving straight into a tree. So it seems there may be some trouble with the A.I. and driving.
But that's about the only technical problem I've read about in over twenty reviews. So good news all around.

MRSUCCESS
MRSUCCESS
5 years ago

What Bio said is true. Portable Ops was no good. I played it and did not finish it because I was turned off with the whole recruiting of soldiers.

I played Metal Gear: Ghost Babel and I thought it was better than Portable Ops.


Last edited by MRSUCCESS on 8/28/2015 12:05:52 PM

souljah92
souljah92
5 years ago

i dunno i thought portable ops was pretty good definitely didn't suck

Bio
Bio
5 years ago

Any game where you spend half the time running around as some generic schlub, hauling around other generic schlubs you knocked out, instead of kicking ass with Snake is a waste of time, IMO. I've tried playing it twice, and I get about halfway through and realized I am completely bored and end up uninstalling it again.

Peace Walker was everything Portable Ops should have been.

souljah92
souljah92
5 years ago

Well damn, sucks for you then

MRSUCCESS
MRSUCCESS
5 years ago

Choosing between favorite entries in my favorite franchise is choosing your favorite child but the funny thing is that I don't have any children.

In any case, while I played Snake Eater more than any other entry, Guns of the Patriots touched me more than all of them. I think it will be hard to top Guns of the Patriots (on my list) but anything is possible. I cannot say just yet.

Sorry to say guys but I will be playing MGS5 tomorrow night.

Jawknee
Jawknee
5 years ago

MGS4 > Peace Walker > MGS3 > MGS > MGS2. I suspect MGSV will rank above or just below MGS4.

MRSUCCESS
MRSUCCESS
5 years ago

I agree with this but unfortunately I am ashamed to say that I have yet to play Peace Walker. I think the whole PSP release threw me off.

As a character I prefer Big Boss but Solid Snake's chapter in Guns of the Patriots was just… Great in every single way.

Temjin001
Temjin001
5 years ago

I gave up on Peace Walker when I fought this tank boss thing that drove around in a closed off room. I used all of my ammo multiple times and basically had to go grind some missions in order to buy better gear to defeat it.

FAREEZ
FAREEZ
5 years ago

Nothing beat MGS 1 and MGS 3 for me. But that's probably change when I get my hands on this game…

Solid Fantasy
Solid Fantasy
5 years ago

HA! Speaking of Final Fantasy, I was at the bar a few weeks ago. Someone asked what the best FF was. About a dozen answers came flying from all over the scene. It was mostly votes for VII and VIII. Then, for a brief moment everything fell silent once we realized what just took place.

I need to play through Phantom Paine fist and let it sink in. Still wouldn't be able rank them though. They all have there highlights. But I really think Sons of Liberty was underrated in the long run. There was so much more to that chapter than we knew, and that was partially the point. I wouldn't be the only one, there are at least a couple good fan made documentaries on youtube about why.

MRSUCCESS
MRSUCCESS
5 years ago

My first thought was… What bar you go to that they speak about video games?

I've had that discussion with so many gamers that I am seriously tired of it. I prefer FF8 over all of them but those that love FF7 get really angered when I tell them that prefer playing FF9 over FF7.

Games are like colors, there are so many of them but doesn't mean you'll like every shade.

FAREEZ
FAREEZ
5 years ago

He probably go to Tifa 7th Heaven bar…

Solid Fantasy
Solid Fantasy
5 years ago

Bhaha! I like to pretend it's 7th Heaven.

FM23
FM23
5 years ago

MGS4, MGS3, MGS1, MGS2. All great. If MGS5 doesn't surpass 4 at least match it minus the cheesy drawn out bits.

Kevin555
Kevin555
5 years ago

If it can top Snake Eater then that in itself would be a remarkable achievement. All the MGS games are good but Snake Eater absolutely killed it for me and will be difficult to best imo

Temjin001
Temjin001
5 years ago

seeing that MGSV will likely be the best playing and looking game in the series it'll likely take top honors by myself. Im sure there'll be enough story there to make me happy. Besides MGS stories I've always found to be convoluted and hard to follow. Maybe a nip and tuck is something it'll be better for.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 8/28/2015 9:56:27 AM

Jawknee
Jawknee
5 years ago

It will likely resemble Peace Walker via story telling.

Godslim
Godslim
5 years ago

Snake eater will always be number one for me so thats what this game would have to beat. But tbh it looks great but I have no idea where it will rank xD

duomaxwell007
duomaxwell007
5 years ago

well if the story is as bad or nonexistant as they say then itll be at the very bottom of the list right above peace walker (so second to last place) if they story actually IS good then itll be at the top

souljah92
souljah92
2 years ago

I think the original mgs/twin snakes and mgs4 are top, but the bosses in mgs3 were fantastic, i also always wonder why mgs portable ops was never given a port to ps3 i mean i think that game was pretty awesome and it&#39s actually a part of the story line taking place after mgs3

Godslim
Godslim
2 years ago

Snake eater will always be number one for me so thats what this game would have to beat. But tbh it looks great but I have no idea where it will rank xD

duomaxwell007
duomaxwell007
2 years ago

well if the story is as bad or nonexistant as they say then itll be at the very bottom of the list right above peace walker (so second to last place) if they story actually IS good then itll be at the top

Jawknee
Jawknee
2 years ago

It will likely resemble Peace Walker via story telling.

FM23
FM23
2 years ago

MGS4, MGS3, MGS1, MGS2. All great. If MGS5 doesn&#39t surpass 4 at least match it minus the cheesy drawn out bits.

Solid Fantasy
Solid Fantasy
2 years ago

HA! Speaking of Final Fantasy, I was at the bar a few weeks ago. Someone asked what the best FF was. About a dozen answers came flying from all over the scene. It was mostly votes for VII and VIII. Then, for a brief moment everything fell silent once we realized what just took place.

I need to play through Phantom Paine fist and let it sink in. Still wouldn&#39t be able rank them though. They all have there highlights. But I really think Sons of Liberty was underrated in the long run. There was so much more to that chapter than we knew, and that was partially the point. I wouldn&#39t be the only one, there are at least a couple good fan made documentaries on youtube about why.

MRSUCCESS
MRSUCCESS
2 years ago

My first thought was… What bar you go to that they speak about video games?

I&#39ve had that discussion with so many gamers that I am seriously tired of it. I prefer FF8 over all of them but those that love FF7 get really angered when I tell them that prefer playing FF9 over FF7.

Games are like colors, there are so many of them but doesn&#39t mean you&#39ll like every shade.

Temjin001
Temjin001
2 years ago

seeing that MGSV will likely be the best playing and looking game in the series it&#39ll likely take top honors by myself. Im sure there&#39ll be enough story there to make me happy. Besides MGS stories I&#39ve always found to be convoluted and hard to follow. Maybe a nip and tuck is something it&#39ll be better for.

Last edited by Temjin001 on 8/28/2015 9:56:27 AM

Solid Fantasy
Solid Fantasy
2 years ago

Bhaha! I like to pretend it&#39s 7th Heaven.

Jalex
Jalex
2 years ago

@Solaire:
The Telegraph review (which gave it a perfect score despite these complaints) mentions an instance where an enemy is run over by another enemy, and the entire area going on alert because they react as if they&#39ve been attacked. They also cite an instance where an extraction target repeatedly committed suicide by driving straight into a tree. So it seems there may be some trouble with the A.I. and driving.
But that&#39s about the only technical problem I&#39ve read about in over twenty reviews. So good news all around.

Temjin001
Temjin001
2 years ago

I gave up on Peace Walker when I fought this tank boss thing that drove around in a closed off room. I used all of my ammo multiple times and basically had to go grind some missions in order to buy better gear to defeat it.

MRSUCCESS
MRSUCCESS
2 years ago

I agree with this but unfortunately I am ashamed to say that I have yet to play Peace Walker. I think the whole PSP release threw me off.

As a character I prefer Big Boss but Solid Snake&#39s chapter in Guns of the Patriots was just… Great in every single way.

Kevin555
Kevin555
2 years ago

If it can top Snake Eater then that in itself would be a remarkable achievement. All the MGS games are good but Snake Eater absolutely killed it for me and will be difficult to best imo

FAREEZ
FAREEZ
2 years ago

Nothing beat MGS 1 and MGS 3 for me. But that&#39s probably change when I get my hands on this game…

souljah92
souljah92
2 years ago

Well damn, sucks for you then

Jawknee
Jawknee
2 years ago

MGS4 > Peace Walker > MGS3 > MGS > MGS2. I suspect MGSV will rank above or just below MGS4.

Jalex
Jalex
2 years ago

&#39Guns of the Patriots&#39 will be tough to beat. I loved the story and my only issue with the gameplay was infinitely respawning enemies (in certain areas), which hindered my tactics.
I won&#39t judge the story of &#39The Phantom Pain&#39 until I actually experience it, but even if it isn&#39t as good as some of the others, I rate games more on technical proficiency than anything else. Based on the reviews released so far, the only problem seems to be extremely uncommon, but apparently the A.I. can muck up player plans thru stupid means (especially in vehicles). Otherwise, it seems to be completely worthy of the &#39Metal Gear&#39 name.

FAREEZ
FAREEZ
2 years ago

He probably go to Tifa 7th Heaven bar…

souljah92
souljah92
2 years ago

i dunno i thought portable ops was pretty good definitely didn&#39t suck

Bio
Bio
2 years ago

Any game where you spend half the time running around as some generic schlub, hauling around other generic schlubs you knocked out, instead of kicking ass with Snake is a waste of time, IMO. I&#39ve tried playing it twice, and I get about halfway through and realized I am completely bored and end up uninstalling it again.

Peace Walker was everything Portable Ops should have been.

MRSUCCESS
MRSUCCESS
2 years ago

What Bio said is true. Portable Ops was no good. I played it and did not finish it because I was turned off with the whole recruiting of soldiers.

I played Metal Gear: Ghost Babel and I thought it was better than Portable Ops.

Last edited by MRSUCCESS on 8/28/2015 12:05:52 PM

Bio
Bio
2 years ago

Portable Ops never got an HD re-release because it sucks. You can tell even Kojima hates it by the way it&#39s never mentioned in promotional material for MGS5, whereas every other main installment, including Peace Walker, is.

Solaire
Solaire
2 years ago

You said it bossman. I can&#39t wait. Where did you find this news about the enemy&#39s AI?

MRSUCCESS
MRSUCCESS
2 years ago

Choosing between favorite entries in my favorite franchise is choosing your favorite child but the funny thing is that I don&#39t have any children.

In any case, while I played Snake Eater more than any other entry, Guns of the Patriots touched me more than all of them. I think it will be hard to top Guns of the Patriots (on my list) but anything is possible. I cannot say just yet.

Sorry to say guys but I will be playing MGS5 tomorrow night.