The pre-owned game plan the Xbox One has apparently adopted didn't go over well. In fact, it totally pissed everyone off. Really badly.

Sony followers immediately responded by making one thing plain: They really, really don't want to see any sort of DRM involved with the PlayStation 4, or any kind of hidden fees or "spot-checks" associated with used gaming.

The good news is that Sony management responded to the passionate fan outcry, and that may have had a significant impact. In fact, according to Gematsu , Sony is taking that backlash very seriously. The reports are that Sony was indeed planning some sort of DRM program for the PS4, but now they're thinking twice.

Several sources on NeoGAF have issued the following statements on the important subject at hand:

"The jist of it is that Sony is listening to the backlash that Microsoft (MS) is getting and they are basing decisions off of this…I would assume MS is also, but I don’t know that for sure. But I can say, for sure, that the past week’s PR nightmare for MS has not been lost on Sony and they, in fact, do have a used game ‘solution’ working and have been going back and forth for months on whether to use it. This past week is pushing them strongly into ‘Yeah, let’s not use that.’"

Then another:

"I just heard on Friday that [the used games DRM] wasn’t [coming]. I didn’t want to come right out and post about it because leak-y individuals like myself are getting a bit too much attention. and I don’t care about myself, but I’m not really looking to get my friends into trouble. But I’ve confirmed it with a second person so I got dumb and posted it."

Do these sources really know what they're talking about? We'll have to wait and see. But if true, it means Sony dodged a definite bullet by letting Microsoft announce their DRM plans first. Then, from relative safety, Sony was able to make the decision to ax their own similar program…and maybe still come out smelling like a rose. Nobody has to know, right? 😉

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Kryten1029a
Kryten1029a
9 years ago

Looks as though Sony is capable of learning from mistakes-their own and those of others. The backlash prompted Microsoft to backpedal from full price to some price to no price on used game fees and Sony was quick enough on the uptake to capitalize. I've been primarily a 360 gamer this gen, but I've become increasingly impressed by PS4 and what Sony is doing.

Snaaaake
Snaaaake
9 years ago

With so much negative response about the XONE, Microsoft will have to be full of bats*** fools to not fix anything.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
9 years ago

I dont know, if people are stupid enough to go through half a dozen 360s I think they can handle another mess from the current xbox formula.

Cabalavatar1
Cabalavatar1
9 years ago

Isn't that just pathetic, Limited? I know two friends who've gone through three 360s. One's gone through four now. Finally, his newest slim has lasted. Brand loyalty in the face of overwhelming failures just blows my mind.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

LV is right.

Norrin Radd
Norrin Radd
9 years ago

I'm on my 3rd 360. Although I hardly play it anymore. Also, I got all replacements for free under the extended warranty they HAD to give after the launch RRoD debacle.

I had a 360 FIRST this gen and stuck with it for a looooong time. Then I saw some footage of Killzone 2 and Drake's Fortune. Then I played Arkham Asylum at my buddies house on his PS3. I LOVED the controller. Reminded me of fond days with my PS1 and the first Tomb Raider. After that I saved up and got a PS3. Didn't hurt it was my first Blu Ray player, too! Since then, I have played Gears (through 3) and Halo (through Reach) but that's been it as far as desirable software, IMO.

And with what we've seen so far from this upcoming gen? It's a no brainer. I was really soured on the hardware problems from MS. And the lack of decent software for the last several years has cemented my decision for the next gen.


Last edited by Norrin Radd on 5/28/2013 10:08:58 AM

Akuma_
Akuma_
9 years ago

Yeah, if Sony have axed it then that's a great thing.

Unfortunately though, the Microsoft conference is before the Sony one at E3, so Microsoft still has the chance to come and say "Oh you thought we were using DRM? Hahahaha noooooo we were never going to do that! You must have misheard us! We would never do such a thing to our valuable gamers!"
Or blame it on rumours or some crap.


Last edited by Akuma_ on 5/27/2013 11:20:13 PM

Kryten1029a
Kryten1029a
9 years ago

I don't that'll happen for two reasons:
1.) They're not that smart.
2.) If they tried it then the phlegm and bile bath they've received this week would be nothing compared to the backlash that they'd get then.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
9 years ago

Sony was smart with their initial silence on the issue. It troubles me that they didn't automatically realize there would be a tremendous flooding of negative backlash in regards to used game DRM but hopefully they learn from the mess MS is currently in.

Akuma_
Akuma_
9 years ago

Maybe their silence wasn't just to gauge the reaction, maybe it was to make MS look stupid as well? haha.

Cabalavatar1
Cabalavatar1
9 years ago

I don't like the used game market as it is now. Somehow, we should be able to pool money back towards the developers for their hard work. I don't care about most publishers, even Sony; they make enough money as it is. But the devs deserve better.
Still, I really dislike DRM. Maybe those seem incompatible, but they don't have to be. Take away more money from GameStop and BestBuy when they trade in games, and give that to the devs.

Akuma_
Akuma_
9 years ago

Yeah I actually agree with you there.

I really dislike used games, but I mainly dislike the system retailers use. I buy a game for $90AUD, then a month later take it back to the store and they will give me $20-30AUD for it. Then they immediately slap a $85 sticker on it and put it on the shelf. That's SO bad.

I will never buy used games, developers deserve support. I personally think it is publishers who should be dealing with the issue directly. Either by online passes for multiplayer, or by agreements with retailers that they will pass on a percentage of the used game sales.


Last edited by Akuma_ on 5/27/2013 11:56:37 PM

Akuma_
Akuma_
9 years ago

The twitter campaign has reached roughly 1,100 tweets per hour.

That's getting pretty big.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Wow that sounds so much like how politics work, let somebody else take the bullet to test bad policies.

___________
___________
9 years ago

i cant see $ony dropping DRM and having no form of it in the ps4.
its such a easy solution to so many big problems which have really hurt the industry for decades now!
piracy, homebrew, unauthorized software, used games, or just general tinkering with the systems inner workings, things that really have hurt this industry for decades now, and things that all would be eradicated with a simple online check to make sure your a good boy and not on santas naughty list.
they have to have something, otherwise the problems just going to get out of hand and made even worse!

they also have to have forced online checks to make sure you own a game thats on your hard disk, otherwise that means no installing games to the HDD and playing them without the disk.
that means no ps4 purchase, ill be getting the xbox one.
so much easier than having to put a console in a bag on a plane, rather than a bag for the console, and another bag for all my games and discs.
than worrying when the plane suffers turbulence and worrying the discs will pop out of their slots and get scratched.

as long as its in the background and does not interrupt you or stop you from doing anything, unless it finds something wrong, than i really dont see what the problem is.
o, and obviously as long as its not too frequently, internet does drop out from time to time so maybe we should have a several day grace period ay?

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
9 years ago

stop thumbing yourself up ya lunatic

___________
___________
9 years ago

wow your life must be REALLY shallow if it bugs ya that much.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

I think he thumbs himself up because everyone else thumbs him down.

😉

Comic Shaman
Comic Shaman
9 years ago

Of course, if air travel is your big concern, you will have to have an extra bag for your mandatory Kinect unit too. Just keep it in mind, since the all-important luggage issue is clearly a dealbreaker for you.

Akuma_
Akuma_
9 years ago

I need an auto-thumbsdown feature hahahaha

You know, your really hypocritical about the Xbox One. You raged so much about the PS4, and were one of the people calling it a crappy PC, but now your saying you currently prefer the Xbone? Which really IS a PC in a console, and I ain't talking in terms of just hardware. It even uses the Windows kernel ffs….

Personally, I don't WANT to install my games to my HDD. It was the most annoying part of the current gen.

The interesting thing about piracy, is that either way, it boosts the profile of the thing being pirated. Look at Game of Thrones for example, the most torrented tv show in the world, also happens to be one of the most popular, and sells tonnes of boxsets.


Last edited by Akuma_ on 5/29/2013 1:02:45 AM

Kinalyx
Kinalyx
9 years ago

Sony will have to do some sort of DRM, or make gamse a little more expensive than the X1 if they want to compete. The publishers arent going to release games on 2 systems if 1 of them is making them a lot less money than the other. If X1 does DRM that makes the publishers money, PS4 will have to do something to make up for that loss to the publishers. This means eather some sort of DRM or a hike in game prices over that of the X1.

Just the way it is.

Shawn

Akuma_
Akuma_
9 years ago

Okay. So the PS4 goes DRM free, while the Xbone has it.

Lets say, EA decides not to publish on the PS4 because of that.

Then the PS4 goes on to sell 10million consoles in its first month world wide. EA has basically denied itself, and don't forget it's stakeholders, from a potential 10million sales. Pretty sure heads would be rolling in EA at the next yearly financial review if that happened.

If the Publishers are trying to strongarm Sony into anything, they are entirely bluffing. Sony just needs to call that bluff.

INSTEAD, they should be making agreements with retailers, so that retailers will pass on the profits they get from games to the publisher and Sony.


Last edited by Akuma_ on 5/29/2013 9:45:31 PM

Cravit8
Cravit8
9 years ago

OF COURSE Sony was planning the same thing. They are in bed with stock-holders, not gamers.

Cravit8
Cravit8
9 years ago

Microsoft let the news break because it wasn't news to them, all those M$ people are so rich and all their family and friends have so much money it's not even within their realm of understanding to know what it's like to need to sell a game or buy used (discounted).

Like the great divide between people who never take restaurant leftovers home and the people who ask for their friends/families leftovers at the table.

LividFiction
LividFiction
9 years ago

If Sony implements any sort of DRM scheme for physical media for PS4, I will not buy the system. Full stop.