It's a very bold word: Revolutionary.

The problem is that if you ask ten gamers, you'll probably get ten different definitions for the word. Some believe a developer would have to issue an entirely new form of interaction, while others simply believe that if the game is groundbreaking – even with tried-and-true mechanics – it can still earn that lofty label.

So, after many months of hype and increasingly ridiculous expectations, would you say that Destiny qualifies as a revolutionary title? It's a shooter at heart and that's nothing new, so we can't say we got a completely innovative game. On the other hand, perhaps the combination of elements, from the shared-world environment to the RPG-like features, makes it revolutionary…or at least evolutionary? The FPS genre has been in desperate need of something like this for a long time, right? Wouldn't you consider it a step in the right direction?

Of course, even if you do, that still may not qualify as "revolutionary."

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WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

Nah.

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
7 years ago

Interesting choice of words!

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

It reflects my feeling that it doesn't have to be, at least not at this stage. It's still top quality and so finely tuned there's no reason to play any other online shooter.

Anonymous
Anonymous
7 years ago

Pretty good game, but not evolutionary or revolutionary.

Geobaldi
Geobaldi
7 years ago

Not at all

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
7 years ago

Nope, it's just the logical result of ongoing trends: open world/hub worlds, ubiquity of RPG-lite systems, explosion of online play, fusion of online and offline, long-term planning in production, stupidly high marketing budgets, FPS genre. I'm surprised that it didn't come out sooner, frankly.

Akuma_
Akuma_
7 years ago

I agree with you. But doesn't the fact that Destiny is the next logical step in the FPS genre, based on the industry trends, mean that it is the 'evolution' of the FPS genre? Thus making it, evolutionary?

It is the first to combine all those trends into one title.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
7 years ago

Evolutionary, certainly, but in the exact same sense that things like LBP, CoD: MW, CoD: AW, or pretty much every game that takes advantage of new ideas or trends is evolutionary.

I suppose my question, considering that, is: "Is the concept of Destiny as a revolution, or more aptly an evolution, worth talking about?"

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

I'm pretty sure the two Planetside games on PC did the whole FPS MMO thing first. Now with Destiny it's just a matter of shaping it into Bungie's way of doing things. Sorta like what Blizzard did with WoW, something inspired from Everquest.
I can't tell you how much this game feels like Halo re-booted for a modern and more connected era.
Everything from the Ghost that feels like Cortana talking into your ear to the stylization of enemies and behaviors etc. The art design is stronger too as there are some areas like the underground moon caverns that feel uncanningly like Covenant locations from old Halo games. They just look much more fleshed out and realized now.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 9/12/2014 1:45:38 AM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

I love having Tyrion talking in my ear all the time, what a great actor.

ulsterscot
ulsterscot
7 years ago

Revolutionary? Nah

Lots of fun? Hell yeah

Broady
Broady
7 years ago

Hell of a lot of fun – lost track of time yesterday – was late finishing work, late dinner, ended up playing til nearly 2am… Thought it was nearer 12!

Akuma_
Akuma_
7 years ago

"Some believe a developer would have to issue an entirely new form of interaction"

This is basically the standard most people seem to have. Especially everyone on this site (no offence guys). This is why no one will ever admit to Destiny being anything better than a 'generic FPS'……

I believe Destiny is at least evolutionary for sure. It is the next step in the FPS genre.

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

idk yet. when I ask myself what the last truly revolutionary game was I keep coming up with blanks. It seems most any big title was somehow an evolved form of something else.

I suppose the answer lies in how the market shapes itself proceeding the release of the said revolutionary title.

EDIT:
wait. Wolfenstein 3D.
The FPS revolution began there.
I know that much.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 9/11/2014 11:37:07 PM

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

I've got it. I know what makes Destiny revolutionary. It's the first best selling new ip that happens to require a constant internet connection, single player or not.
The irony. The very thing that caused so many to revolt against the Xbox One is a very element at the core of Destiny. =p

Now all companies need to do is just design and claim every game as a perpetual online gaming experience and viola 'all r base' belong to them.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 9/12/2014 1:33:15 AM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

It was a revolution to bring Bungie and its fans over to Playstation with a nice little snubbing of the nose at Microsoft.

Corvo
Corvo
7 years ago

Not revolutionary, but it is certainly fun. It gets harder and harder for a game to be defined as "revolutionary" but than again, people can't give video games a real review nor can gaming media such as websites and news be deemed as legit anymore either. Especially after that woman banging dudes for publicity and whatnot.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
7 years ago

No not even close. This is a step in the direction of giving us something other than the same old fps gameplay, however there's plenty others that do that as well so to compliment Destiny for it would be a disservice to games like Borderlands and Fallout. Because although both FPS they don't stick to the same old formula.

Destiny is good, and it struggles to find an identity. But honestly it's nothing more than an FPS with some rpg light elements. This whole Shared World Shooter crap is just a way to make it sound revolutionary and an MMO this is not. So call it what you will but it can't be considered revolutionary. But it can be considered a breathe of fresh air for FPS genre.

JackieBoy
JackieBoy
7 years ago

Not one bit.

trumpetmon65
trumpetmon65
7 years ago

Right now, I think it's a fairly strong step in the right direction. I think that it is important to note that the game is supposed to be only the beginning of what is supposed to be an epic ten year run. I'm thinking five at the most but who knows. The revolutionary part of the game may be that it might not have a sequel. With graphics as good as they are these days, there will likely be very little need for an engine overhaul, so they might as well just keep making this game bigger. That'll save lots of money, which means that maybe Activision won't be too concerned with trying out new IPs in the future instead of dedicating two teams to two year cycles to churn out the exact same game in different time periods. This is all just a hopelessly optimistic rant of course

big6
big6
7 years ago

Yeah, but could you imagine Destiny 2 played only through a VR headset like Oculus or Morpheus?
That, my friend, would indeed be revolutionary!

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
7 years ago

It'll be getting a sequel every second year according to the original contract between Activision and Bungie that was made public during the trial of Jason West and Vince Zampella. And apparently it will receive hefty expansion packs in those years void of a flagship release.
I mean… it's Activision and what promises to be another billion-dollar-per-release franchise, optimism shouldn't even be considered.

Aerifale
Aerifale
7 years ago

Revolutionary? Nope. Evolutionary, refined, fantastic fun to play? Yep. This game is a blast!

Eat.Sleep.Play.Repeat

big6
big6
7 years ago

Picking my copy up tonight! If it's anything like Borderlands, then I'll be extremely happy.

ethird1
ethird1
7 years ago

The levels are freaking huge. HUGE! YOu can choose to pve all day , pvp all day, or both all day. The pvp is awesome. The pve is awesome. I was on Mars, doing random missions when I picked up a LEGENDARY ITEM. It was a bazooka. Man did that help me destroy some of those tougher boss mobs.

This game is hands down the best game I have played in a long long time. It literally destroys the Last of Us in terms of just pure playability. In fact, Im betting, that it out sells the Last of Us on both the PS4 and PS3 combined. But that would mean that all those who bought it were idiots, right?

Naughty Dog bows before the pure fun and awesomeness of Bungie.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

I'll say this, enemy AI is realistic.

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

I've always felt the behavior of Bungie's AI has been the most reactive to any other games I've played.
They retreat and wont fire when they get weak. They duck and find cover from hot gernades. They blitz you and get aggressive when they know you're weak. They never just stand there waiting to be killed, they're always trying to strafe and find cover from fire. They also often have personalities associated with the given race. I feel at harder difficulties this aspect will shine even more, as Halo did before it.

big6
big6
7 years ago

I thought the enemy AI in Borderlands and Killzone were pretty decent, too.

xenris
xenris
7 years ago

I like the game, I really do. My only complaint so far is that I would like more variety in the missions.

There is a lot of, hold this position fight off waves of enemies rinse repeat. Now the gunplay is super tight, and with friends this is still very fun. However playing this game right after playing Metro Last light, I just can't help but compare certain elements.

I know this is a more casual shooter but I would love to see stealth section of certain missions, heck even the dreaded escort mission would be welcome.

I will admit I'm only level 15 and haven't even finished the moon so my wishes might be answered but thats so far my only complaint.

Like Temjin said earlier this game isn't doing anything that Planetside 1 and 2 already did. In fact Planetside 2 is more of an MMOfps than destiny ever will be. However Destiny has an actual story which planetside will never have.

I guess what I'm trying to say is no its an evolution not a revolution. Unless we see every shooter that comes out after Destiny have always online and an mmolite type feel than this isn't the FPS revolution.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
7 years ago

Yeah my problem is the lack of content outside the story and strike missions. Both of those being excellent. I had this worry from the start but it's fun enough just shooting stuff although I feel like I'm in the same area far too often not doing anything.

It's a solid game and entertaining otherwise.

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

there's definitely that feeling that the game is designed from the ground up with multiple players in mind. That's fine and all but I don't think it can deliver the more singularly focused thrill of a game like Metro. It's just one of those things inherent of single player vs open-multiplayer design.
I'm a bit worried about AC Unity because of this.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 9/12/2014 4:38:31 PM

slow and smart
slow and smart
7 years ago

i agree with Temjin001:"there's definitely that feeling that the game is designed from the ground up with multiple players in mind. That's fine and all but I don't think it can deliver the more singularly focused thrill of a game like Metro. It's just one of those things inherent of single player vs open-multiplayer design."
I played the beta and had the same feeling about it,but now people who played it some more are saying it also


Last edited by slow and smart on 9/13/2014 1:27:01 AM

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

btw, this game with 17 critic reviews is limping by with only a 74 percent. This just feeds my continued belief that the majority of best selling games just don't need to be critically praised, like 90+, to sell well. Sure, having high scores usually always helps (didn't save Bioshock) but it seems other factors have higher precedence these days. Destiny is a product that sold well because of what people tried before buying and it appeared to be the best reason to upgrade hardware.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 9/12/2014 4:51:48 PM

DarthNemesis
DarthNemesis
7 years ago

It's nothing but Starhawk mixed with Ratchet & Clank in FPS form with multiplayer blended with the single player, but falls short of either game.

Rachet_JC_FTW
Rachet_JC_FTW
7 years ago

well i'd say it sounds like a game that has successfull compounded multiple types of games into one really good solid game in its ownright.

happy gaming

Darwin1967
Darwin1967
7 years ago

Revolutionary? Nah. I'm enjoying the game, and with continued support…dlc, etc. It should provide some pretty stellar gameplay. What I find revolutionary, however, is the fact that this game has been dang near 99% bug free…no weird issues, excellent connection, smooth pain free gaming…in the day and age of, we're still working on the issues and promise to fix the game we released 8 months, 12 months ago, this is truly a breath of fresh air!

ricksterj
ricksterj
7 years ago

Without single player OFFLINE mode; WHO CARES!

GamerO1
GamerO1
7 years ago

Not Even Close !!!
It's fun, but Borderlands is superior in every-way…
More Weapons, Huge Variety of Enemies, Major Story, Humongous Open World Play Area, and a lot more !!!

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