Even though the reaction to Sony's PlayStation 4 announcement has been mostly positive, we have yet to see a solidified launch date and price.

And of course, both are important. Recently, we'd heard from various sources that the new console will have a couple of models, one priced at $430 and the other priced at $530. That sounds more than reasonable to us, but one analyst believes Sony might go even lower.

In speaking to GamesIndustry International , Inside Network analyst Billy Pidgeon said the "magic price point" for the PS4 is actually only $299.

"I'd like to see maybe two models, one under $300 and one under $400 would be ideal. $299 is the magic price point. I think this current generation took way too long to get there. It has to be under $400 and honestly if they could subsidize it further and take more of a hit, it might be worth their while in the long run."

But regardless of price, Pidgeon seems to believe that both the PS4 and Xbox 720 will initially see slower sales out of the gate. This means that both manufacturers will continue to back the current consoles for some time.

"Uptake during the first year is going to be slower than people expect. And to keep a viable business in terms of profit margins, they're going to have to do their best to keep their current-gen platforms viable as they're perhaps moving into next-gen more slowly than they did last time. Historically, we've seen generational transitions where the previous generation just dropped off a cliff when the new console came out, but that would really hurt either Sony or Microsoft if that happened."

Yes, the industry is changing. But in recent generations, Sony has never allowed their older systems to "drop off a cliff" when the new console came out; the PS1 and PS2 continued to sell very well for several years after their successors were on store shelves. There's no doubt the same thing will happen with the PS3. As for price, $299 may be too much to hope for…

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TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

If the hardware they are talking about is in there, a $299 pricepoint is a stretch.

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

Agreed, I believe it's going to be higher than that. Maybe 400-500? I think that will be the range, like most people have been saying. I would be very surprised if it's in the 300 range.

Norrin Radd
Norrin Radd
9 years ago

Well, I'd like it to be $50. That's even MORE accessible!!!!

</sarcasm>

Come on. $300???? Really??? Whatever. Yeah, it'll be cheaper than the WiiU. Oops, forgot sarcasm was turned off. My bad.

PoopsMcGee
PoopsMcGee
9 years ago

lol

True dat.

slugga_status
slugga_status
9 years ago

Wishful thinking if you ask me. $399 and $499 models seems like the more likely numbers..

Sunni_Boi
Sunni_Boi
9 years ago

$299 would be nice, but im ready 2 give about $499.

ace_boon_coon
ace_boon_coon
9 years ago

I'm going to say $399, that seems more realistic.

Simcoe
Simcoe
9 years ago

$299 = Sony's in it for the long haul (Sony heavily subsidizing the hardware) (6-7 years).
$399 = This will be a much shorter hardware cycle (Sony not taking a hit on hardware) (4-5 years).

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

There's no way in hell the hardware revealed can sustain a 6-7 year lifecycle as the only Sony console. 4-5 years perhaps, but after that time, it will be so thoroughly obsolete that it will need replacement.

Simcoe
Simcoe
9 years ago

I really do believe they want to get back into a shorter cycle. I could see a bit of push back (especially from the media) if they announce a new one in four years, so I do see five years being more likely.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Ubisoft, of course, has already come out crowing that PS4 better be a short cycle. *eyeroll*

___________
___________
9 years ago

they did not say next gen better be a short one, they said dont take 7 freaking years to announce the next system!
which is fair enough, 7 years is WAY too long to be stuck with a system, especially at the rate technology is moving at!

richfiles
richfiles
9 years ago

You know… I've been looking for a third job, am struggling to even buy games for my PS3 that I already have… and now they want to sell a PS4. In this economy, I could have waited another year or two and not felt bad about it.

I know they'll have early adopters, and that's very good. Despite my financial hardships, I know they feel they can establish a new console at the end of the year, so more power to them.

Just don't expect me buying one till the bugs are worked out and a year or two has already passed. I'll catch the rest of you guys on the PS4 then! 😛

PSN French
PSN French
9 years ago

If we remember how much money Sony was willing to lose with every PS3 sold at launch, I don't think $299 is far from the truth. In fact, the PS3s hardware was developed from scratch, so hardware costs are probably much cheaper for the PS4. I don't know, I'd like to see a $299 price point. I'll probably camp out for a launch console if this is the case.

Simcoe
Simcoe
9 years ago

Yeah, but PS3 had A LOT riding on it's success, not only playstation but also Sony in terms of the Blu-ray…that HAD to win for them.

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

Also, Sony actually had a little money to spare then. Not so much anymore.

Nas Is Like
Nas Is Like
9 years ago

I wouldn't mind if it was $299, but I doubt that will be the case. Maybe for the slim PS4 they will come out with.

Solid Fantasy
Solid Fantasy
9 years ago

Can I get a more expensive model with stronger specs? I actually don't care about the hardware, I just hate seeing any amount of sacrifice to aid the average price wining console gamer!

Crabba
Crabba
9 years ago

That would be awesome. Unlikely, but awesome.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
9 years ago

I'd pay $600, easily.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

For the PS4 as announced? Or a PS4 with PS3 compatibility in the box?

Cesar_ser_4
Cesar_ser_4
9 years ago

600 for the PS4 with the Cell and EE and Graphics Synthesizer please.

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
9 years ago

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic LV. For what has been announced I certainly wouldn't pay any where near as much as last time. If the HW cycle is going to be shortened then the release price needs to be slashed. I'd like to think very few people will be willing to spend $600 on a console which is likely only going to be relevant for 4-5 years and even then it will be looking dated.

cadpig
cadpig
9 years ago

Sony has to meet or beat Microsoft new box pricewise. There is too much competition to justify a higher price tag.

$399 sounds about right. Still, i would be more than happy to pay $299 for a new PS4

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
9 years ago

especially as it looks like the HW capabilities aren't going to be too different.

ethird1
ethird1
9 years ago

You give me a 299 brand new sony machine that is NOT STRIPPED DOWN, and I will drop the ps3 like a bad habit and forget that I cant play psn games from my ps3 on it. It will also bring the system to the masses.

Have they not learned yet? 299 IS the price that will make everyone buy it and will allow the 3rd parties to make a buck.

End of Line.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

You get what you pay for. $299 launch price = cheap as chip hardware and reliability down the toilet.

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
9 years ago

My launch PS3 cost £425, then it burned its graphics chip off the board and I had to pay £75 for a repair, then the thing started to overheat AGAIN so I had to buy another PS3 (slim) at £215 around Christmas time.

I REALLY don't want Sony to scrimp on making this thing last the whole of the expected lifespan of the generation just for the sake of making it cheaper.

SaiyanSenpai
SaiyanSenpai
9 years ago

Do people realize that most cell phones cost more than $300?

Not to mention that my friend just bought a new Nvidia graphics card for his computer that ran over $400, and it doesn't even have 8 GB of DDR5 memory.

And none of those even come with a nice controller or a BD drive.

You get what you pay for, especially when it comes to new tech. People need to get their head out of the clouds and start putting things into perspective. You want something? It will cost money.


Last edited by SaiyanSenpai on 2/22/2013 1:44:13 PM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Agreed.

Crabba
Crabba
9 years ago

Well, a $400 graphics card is also SEVERAL times more powerful than the GPU in the PS4, and the 8GB RAM in the PS4 is total system RAM, not Video RAM.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

@Crabba
That doesn't make his post less true. It was a great example.

Crabba
Crabba
9 years ago

Underdog15 I agree with him that you get what you pay for, but he made it sound like the $400 graphics card is inferior to the GPU included in the PS4 with the "and it doesn't even have 8 GB of DDR5 memory" comment, which is just plain wrong.

I'd be ecstatic if Sony would put more powerful hardware in the PS4 and set a higher pricepoint, but that's obviously not the case, and I can unfortunately see why with all the complaints early in the PS3's life about the cost… Flipside of that coin is Sony still has to make people want to upgrade, and to do that they have to make the PS4 powerful enough, which I don't feel it is with the specs revealed…

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
9 years ago

I'd love to see better HW with a view to an even longer generation this time round and I'd pay handsomely for it.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

What annoys me with this kind of bullshit is that it risk skewing the markets perception of a price.
This price is obviously too low, but if the market now all of a sudden expect such a price, well then the real price – who othervice would be received as fair – could all of a sudden be perceived as too expensive.


Last edited by Beamboom on 2/22/2013 1:48:19 PM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Welcome to the anti-sony media bandwagon…

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

Oh well, it's an analyst saying this, not a journalist. Ben is just citing.

But seriously, how is the media coverage of the PS4 over at your side of the planet? Cause here in Norway it really is 99% pure excitement and positivity.
Ironically, the place I've found most negativity about the next PS is in the comments right here at PSXE…!

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

That negativity comes from the dashed hopes of people who felt that Sony did not care to be common.

I don't know what the media coverage is here, I presume it's positive also. The point I was making was that this analysts price prediction is just the kind of crap that happened almost 7 years ago when PS3 announcement was imminent. Unrealistic price rumors are dangerous.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

With the hardware gone common as Highlander says the hype and interest around here is (aside from the games)in the kind of abilities, gameplay, and innovative software possibilities that PS4 will bring to the table. True 21st century stuff where PS3 was powerful but lacking almost all of that.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
9 years ago

My prediction is $400 for base model, premium model $500.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 2/22/2013 1:56:41 PM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

The premium model plays PS3 games? Or perhaps the Premium model has higher clocks?

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
9 years ago

Don't have the answers to your questions, but I thought u would already know since I heard/read that your the tech whiz around here from previous posts you made.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 2/22/2013 2:37:13 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Maybe that would be for a big ass hard drive and 2 years of PSPlus.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
9 years ago

A 1 tera would be sweet along with a year of PSN+, don't think they would do 2 though. Let's say the base model came with 500gb-1 year PSN+ same hardware specs (if they did come out with a premium model) for $399 that would be a great starting price.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 2/22/2013 3:21:42 PM

Cesar_ser_4
Cesar_ser_4
9 years ago

Heh, yeah highlander, that would be just as crippling as say, models without HDDs? people wont respond very well to a console with two skus one of which has higher clock speeds than the other one.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

In addition to the unrealistic launch price rumors, I'd just like to add a counterpoint to he unrealistic ideas abut streamed gameplay…

I'm still waiting for the announcement of the second most important component in the system – the Miraculous Internet Latency Removal chip set – aka MITRe(TM). With MITRe installed, your streamed gameplay from across the Net won't suffer from unplayable lag in real time control games, such as fighters like Soul Calibur.

Want a demonstration of how bad lag can be on a streamed game? Get two PS3s, hook them to the Net, start the same multiplayer game on both using different accounts. Get both players into the same game room and watch the character logged into the fist PS3 on the second PS3's screen, watch the lag between controller input and movement on the second system's screen. That my friends is what you are looking at in the future for streamed gameplay without the MITRe(TM) chip…

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

… Unless, of course, this service is designed differently than you assume. 😉

(oh no, no no, I'm not starting *that* discussion again. 😀 )

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Have that discussion all you like Beam, it's 100% confirmed that the PS3 games will not run locally – which was an assumption made by yourself in the 'design' of the service you envisaged. the only way to get around latency issues on the Net is to do away with the basic infrastructure of the net. You could have fiber into the home from the ISP and it would still suffer latency from the router hops. If you are as smart and knowledgeable as you seem, you already know this. So how do you propose to build a cloud streaming gameplay to consoles with no latency issue? remember, running the game code locally is out of the equation – Sony already did us the service of telling us that. So apart from something like MITRe(TM), how do you propose it be done?


Last edited by TheHighlander on 2/22/2013 2:56:14 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I've done that and was fairly impressed with how little lag there was, with the preloading software Sony talked about maybe they can cut it down quite a bit.

darxed
darxed
9 years ago

Highlander, did you know that there is a homeland security and federal defense company called MITRE? When I saw your post I thought "Holy Sh*t, no wonder He knows so much about tech stuff"

He he he