As I predicted, sales of the Xbox One have apparently skyrocketed after Microsoft removed Kinect and made the price $399.

According to the latest report , sales "more than doubled" after the price drop in June. Microsoft didn't provide exact numbers but obviously, the impact of that move is more than significant.

So, should Sony respond? Are they just fine with things the way they are? If Xbox One sales doubled in the US, it stands to reason Microsoft's console outsold the PlayStation 4 in this region during June. I would also expect Xbox One to top the PS4 throughout the summer, especially as there really aren't any compelling reasons to pick up Sony's system until the fall. I suppose The Last Of Us: Remastered might spur hardware sales a little, but that's about it.

The bottom line is that this has been an Xbox-dominated territory since the Xbox 360 launched. There was nothing, outside of the price, that was really going to deter the Xbox faithful from grabbing the new console, and now that we've got the competitive $399 price tag, the next-gen gap has already started to shrink. I guess the question is: How rapidly will that gap shrink, and how long should Sony wait before they issue some kind of response?

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Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

No. Doubling their May sales is still a pretty marginal increase. May sales sucked.

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

maybe they went from like 15K to 30K. hehe.

even then, it can be assumed the XO sales were hedged up for a few weeks prior to the price drop as prospective buyers likely held off on purchasing the new system until they could have it for $400. We could see the XO sales returning to a more normalized, as in reduced, sales rate once things return to normal flow.

EDIT: we'll see soon enough. NPD makes their report tomorrow. maybe MS is preemptively trying to gain some positive press before the truth becomes revealed 😉


Last edited by Temjin001 on 7/17/2014 12:06:54 AM

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

cha-ching. yep. Sony takes June!
so yah, um, so if DOUBLING XO's i.e. "sky rocketed" sales in June still wasn't enough to beat PS4 that pretty much means the PS4 has been way out in front for like the whole year.

….ms had their 18 or so hours of pretended glory. Instead. they were just tooting their own horn, even if their horn was still smaller.

EDIT: …and one could assume "well if MS had the WHOLE month at $399.99 it could be different"
hmmm. maybe. but Sony is also taking the lead with the Destiny bundle, which Destiny looks to probably be the hottest game release this year. So perhaps July is even another lock for Sony.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 7/17/2014 7:00:39 PM

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

…actually the $399 XO has been announced since May 15th. Stores immediately started taking pre-orders too. To think the pent up last half of May sales (basically pre-orders) and all of June's sales weren't enough for XO to take a month pretty much spells epic fail. If there was ever a chance outside of Titanfall's launch month to beat PS4 this would've been it. That boat has sailed.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 7/17/2014 7:11:21 PM

Akuma_
Akuma_
7 years ago

Well yeah, according to the NPD numbers (Which haven't been made public yet, but released to manufacturers) the PS4 was the best selling console in the US in June.

So one of two things happened.

1) The Xbox had a terrible May, and even a 200% increase didn't match PS4 sales.
2) Microsofts claim of a 200% increase in sales is a highly twisted fact and not actually correct.

From what I have read around the internet, the answer is both 🙂
They had a shit May, and even IF they did get double sales, they wouldn't have matched PS4, and also it seems as though Microsofts number was generated from an internal survey, and not even comparable to sales numbers.

Akuma_
Akuma_
7 years ago

Let's face it, it wouldn't be the first time that Microsoft PR has twisted information to sound good.

Just like their "5 million consoles sold" number, which turned out to be 5 million shipped units, not sold, and sold units was closer to 4 million.

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

yah, at this stage in the game, reporting shipped as MS does can make a big difference when looking at ratios.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

Let the zombie-like drones begin to swirl once again.

Sony might want to float rumors of a Slim with a price drop, Linux availability, the capability to put your own videos on the system and a then the reveal of some things that must be revealed like
Agent, The Last Guardian and such.

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
7 years ago

I wish Sony doesn't allow USB drives compatibility. It would eliminate a lot of hacking.

Beamboom
Beamboom
7 years ago

Are there talk about a new version of the PS4 that supports installing Linux? Oh man that'd be a dream come true for me… I could have a SteamOS and ps4 in the same box!

tes37
tes37
7 years ago

Since MS hasn't released the sales figures, I think it would be safe to assume that they at least sold three units.

Corvo
Corvo
7 years ago

MS seriously needs this too. 15,000 jobs lost just in the xbox division alone.

Sony just needs to wait till next year. Honestly, MS threw all the cards on the table, what the hell are they going to show next year at E3 or even for a trailer at the VGA's? They went all in, and Sony still has things hidden up their sleeves. This has turned into the greatest thing about stealth games: Becoming a predator and watching and baiting your prey. Sony's in the shadows right now, with everything in order. All they need is MS to move more into the shadows so they can take them out.

Of course, Maybe MS didn't throw everything out on the table already, which they have buuut, there's always a chance they'll get Square to give them some exclusivity. Although die hard Final Fantasy fans won't go and buy an xbox one for a modern Final Fantasy, they'd just replay old ones im sure. Oh well time will tell whats going to happen, but I can assure everyone that MS is in some deep poopies and if this sales boost is as big as the over exaggerator makes it sound, good.

Anonymous
Anonymous
7 years ago

Ah, the perfect Knightzane post. A teaspoon of fact mixed with ten million gallons of nonsense, chilled overnight, and seasoned to taste with BROODBOOOOOORNE.

Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

MS cuts are the result of the Nokia acquisition according to the paper I read this morning. It has nothing to do with it's gaming division. The first wave of cuts will affect 1,351 jobs in the Seattle area.

Overall, MS had aquired Nokia and brought in 25k people bringing it's overall headcount to 127k. They will be letting 18k people go, most of which from the overlay of the Nokia acquisition with what they have currently in that division. In fact, approx. 12,500 of that 18k. Microsoft did not detail where the remaining cuts would be (outside that 1351 I just mentioned.)

That brings the total to approx. 13,851 out of 18,000 already from areas not in XBOX. Which leaves another 4,149 cuts to go across the whole organization.

I fail to see how that will, in any universe, translate to 15,000 jobs lost in XBOX division alone. (which, by the way, would be almost 14% of the entire MS company… is XBOX even representative of 14% of all Microsoft?!?!)


Last edited by Underdog15 on 7/17/2014 10:27:45 AM

cLoudou
cLoudou
7 years ago

0 x 2 = 0

SaiyanSenpai
SaiyanSenpai
7 years ago

The sales increase for the month won't do much if it's not sustained. I guess that's the biggest question – was it just a round of people holding out for a price drop or will it be a sustained influx of sales?


Last edited by SaiyanSenpai on 7/16/2014 10:48:57 PM

Norrin Radd
Norrin Radd
7 years ago

Without actual figures that statement means absolutely bupkis. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

I think at this point sony shouldn't be afraid of any of what MS is doing. They need to be concerned about what they themselves are doing. This starts with getting more aggressive with their gaming lineup.

EDIT: Sony has been free-riding on everything MS did wrong with the XO.
Just imagine if MS did everything right on this launch. Sony is actually putting up a pretty weak fight for a console war that could've put them in their grave if MS didn't go insane for a bit there.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 7/17/2014 12:10:13 AM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

That's why going on the offensive will be required soon, MS is a dirty fighter.

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

and while I appreciated games like Gran Turismo 6, the prospect to play R&C Enter The Nexus on PS3, one has to wonder that if Sony was aware how high the stakes were for the PS4 why they didn't shift the projects to PS4. And just imagine something like The Last of Us landing on PS4 as a launch title. At that point if MS had brought their A game Sony would have been ready for it. As it is now, it feels like Sony has won so far by default.

yay, for default =p


Last edited by Temjin001 on 7/17/2014 11:00:40 AM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

lol, I'll take a win by default but after that it's time to start arming up in case a real fight comes.

Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

True… it's not that Sony has won… It's that MS has failed. Everything from the Kinect fiasco, all the terrible early news pieces they originally were going to work in before release… I mean… right there, they were losing before anything had even happened yet.

And to top it all off, their launch line-up and holiday line up are no better than Sony's.

I'm glad I got to play TLoU already… but you're right… if it had been a launch title? man…. Gooooood Night!


Last edited by Underdog15 on 7/17/2014 2:21:36 PM

Gamer46
Gamer46
7 years ago

Of course Sony should be worried, especially if it doesn't vastly improve on the exclusives it's going to have on offer which right now pales in comparison to what MS has on the way. 'Remasters' of PS3 gams and indie trash isn't going to cut it.

surfer
surfer
7 years ago

Exactly correct. This holiday season will be won by MS due to exclusives and that will sell consoles in the long run. However in 2015, Sony gets some awesome exclusives as well.

The white Destiny PS4 console will move a lot of units.

Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

Aside from Sunset Overdrive, which might be good, I don't see MS with anything good on the horizon.

Sony will maintain a relatively comfortable worldwide margin after the holidays. There will be enough good multi-plats to make one MS exclusive sort of… meh.

surfer
surfer
7 years ago

In addition to Sunset Overdrive, you have Halo: Master Chief which includes Beta for Halo 5, Ori and the Blind Forest, Below which is first on Xbox One, Fable Legends multiplayer beta, Forza 2 and Project Spark which looks amazing.

There is much more than just Sunset Overdrive this holiday for MS. Now I agree Sony will maintain a good lead in sales; however, MS will definitely lessen the gap.

Very surprised in Sony's lack of exclusives for this holiday and that is one reason why MS is going all out.

Now maybe Sony knows MS will move a ton of consoles with Halo and they are waiting in the wings for 2015…who knows.

Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

Sony has more exclusives if you want to start listing games that likely won't amount to much, too.

And even more so if you want to add things like a Masterchief remaster…

Heck, based on what's announced, I could add Driveclub in October, LBP 3 in November, Samurai Warriors 4 (whatever that is), Natural Doctrine, The Swapper, the remastered TLoU which includes dlc, Entwined, MLB The Show 14, Sportsfriends, Octodad, FFXIV Online (also on PC, but not XB1 nor WiiU)….

There's even more exclusives I haven't mentioned, that, imo, don't amount to much.

But I digress. My point is that Sunset Overdrive is basically it. Additionally, I don't think people should forget about LBP3 and Driveclub. It's not like Sony will have nothing. And people need to stop pretending that's the case. Don't forget about the multiplats like Far Cry 4, CoD, AC:Unity…. and more, all of which reportedly better on PS4.

I just don't think MS is doing anything more impressive, really. And I have a hard time believing any miniature catching up XB1 does will have any lasting effect.


Last edited by Underdog15 on 7/17/2014 11:45:07 AM

surfer
surfer
7 years ago

Whether you want to admit or not the Master Collection is a brilliant move on MS part because of the multiplayer. It will have over 100 maps from all the games running at 1080p. Keep in mind I have never even played an Xbox game let alone Halo lol; however, from a business standpoint it is a great strategy. Halo is their bread and butter and the multiplayer from all previous games on one disc will move consoles.

Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

Well, I've played lots of Halo, and I've seen them re-release the first one more than once (This is at least the third time). Again, all the old maps are already available, so I don't see any added benefit from them that Sony can't offer in their own versions.

Of course people will buy the remaster, but is it a system seller? Absolutely not.

CrusaderForever
CrusaderForever
7 years ago

I read somewhere June had more days for sales compared to May so I think Sony will be fine. This is the other reason why Microsoft doubled May's sales. Microsoft will spin it anyway they can. I bet Sony is right there in US sales. The Last of Us Remastered and Destiny bundle are going to sell some PS4s. It was announced today that the X1 won't hit 1080p for Destiny until later on HAHA!! Sony owns Destiny and you'll see in the sales figures come October. PS4 the best place to play!


Last edited by CrusaderForever on 7/17/2014 1:04:27 AM

Akuma_
Akuma_
7 years ago

Anything that Microsoft PR says is pretty much irrelevant to me.

They have lied before, and their job is to twist things in Microsofts favor.

I will wait until the official NPD numbers tomorrow. VGCHartz numbers for June showed only a marginal increase in sales, definitely not even close to a 200% increase.

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

vgchartz console sales reporting is usually way off. I've seen several instances where they were just way out in left field.

Akuma_
Akuma_
7 years ago

Yeah there is a lot of talk about how the owner of the site is an Xbox fanboy and apparently inflates the Xbox numbers ahahahah.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
7 years ago

It will be interesting to see which outlets cover Destiny chiefly on PS4 or Xbox One. That should out some sites.

kraygen
kraygen
7 years ago

So since MS claims shipped as sold, that means they shipped twice as many units because they had to replace all the units in the stores that had kinect packaged with them.

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
7 years ago

A console doesn't just sell. Obviously people do want an all in one entertainment system and HALO Master Chief collection is blooming some XBO purchases. Sony shouldn't underestimate competition and should act fast. They should start with some updates to their system and work their way up. Xbox One has seen some awesome monthly updates to the OS.

JackDillinger89
JackDillinger89
7 years ago

Sony don't got nothing to worry about they will be fine. Its still the lead development console for lots of devs now. That's important.

surfer
surfer
7 years ago

Not that Sony should be worried; however, MS lineup this Fall crushes Sony's. MS is going to move a lot of units with the lower price combined with Halo: Master Chief Collection due in November. MS exclusive deal with the NFL remains to be seen how effective that will be implemented on the system.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
7 years ago

Seems to me like an Xbox fan signed up just to rave.

You're mentioning every last exclusive Xbox One has (and hardly all of them are going to be as amazing as you seem to think), and not bothering to note important points, like for example the fact that basically every LittleBigPlanet title has outscored every Xbox exclusive ever released. LBP3 is coming, remember?

The next REAL Halo isn't until the end of 2015 and that's not a new Fable, either. All you've really got is Sunset Overdrive, as far as I'm concerned. So no, the exclusive lineup for Xbox One doesn't "crush" anything.

surfer
surfer
7 years ago

I am a PS3 owner actually lol. Interesting how you treat new users. Make a couple of opinions an the administrator picks on the new guy wow. I completely disagree with you regarding exclusives. Brand new Fable btw called Fable Legends with four person c-op.

Key to your statement is "as far as I'm concerned" but apparently that same endorsement isn't for anyone else? I do not have to be an Xbox owner to see there are many more quality exclusives this holiday compared to Sony.

Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

Surfer, I think Ben's point, regardless of how delivered, stands. Sunset Overdrive is it for anything truly -POTENTIALLY- outstanding. The rest of your list are titles that will amount to nothing or are remakes… and if we start comparing remakes, you'll see that anything multiplat is better on PS4 or you have something like TLoU, which is nothing to sneeze at.

surfer
surfer
7 years ago

Yes I understand Ben's point but I happen to disagree with it. Personally, I think Project Spark will be outstanding along with Sunset Overdrive and the Halo Master Chief Collection. Yes it is a remaster however the multiplayer will sell tons of units for MS. Fable Legends beta looks awesome as well with four player co-op and another player "playing" the villain Very cool concept.

I am not an Xbox fan boy lol I am a PS3 owner. I am not trying to be difficult. The tile of Ben's article is "Should Sony be concerned". My comments are valid points in responding to this post.

Also, I agree with your points regarding some of Xbox One exclusives not being outstanding titles.

Beamboom
Beamboom
7 years ago

Nevermind Ben, surfer. He's always been like this to newcomers that express anything against Sony or pro another platform.
Welcome to the site! Sorry for the rough introduction.

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

(I forgot about LBP3 woo hoo!)

if MS locks down the NFL license with some EA game exclusivity deal I think I'll pretty much NEVER buy a single MS product again. That is, if they gain exclusivity to the Madden franchise.
That's just another below the belt move that would make me avoid MS like the plague.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 7/17/2014 1:51:05 PM

Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

For the record, I didn't say I thought you didn't understand his points. I said despite his delivery, his points are completely valid.

Yes, Fable seems cool and Halo: re-released seems fun. I'm not saying they aren't.

The point for me is that they don't outweigh what is coming to PS4, therefore, no, I don't believe Sony has anything to worry about, and no, I don't believe it will magically push XB1 into the top spot.

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
7 years ago

Seems like Ben needs a spanking.

Akuma_
Akuma_
7 years ago

To be expected since this article is now in the top 5 articles on N4G right now.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
7 years ago

I'm allowed to call anyone out who OBVIOUSLY signed up to promote Xbox.

Xbox exclusives have always been sh** when compared to PlayStation, and that's that. I've played them all; every Gears, every Halo…and well, that's about it, because it's Xbox. They're all vastly inferior to the cutting-edge exclusives on PlayStation's side. It's not even remotely close.

I want Sunset Overdrive. I also know that PS4 exclusives are lacking in 2014, but I'm not the one who entirely glossed over what that system has, including LittleBigPlanet 3 (which, by the way, has a legit shot at Game of the Year). I've said in the past that the PS4 and Xbox One exclusive lineups in 2014 are lacking.

Because they are. But I'm not so much of a biased fanboy to say Xbox exclusives "crush" Sony's. Yeah, not sensible at all.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
7 years ago

Beamboom: And I don't need you to play the self-righteous card.

I've greeted thousands of new users over the years, years before you got here, and I'm willing to bet you never saw 99 percent of those greets. Many of those new users disagreed with something and yet, most are still here now.

Losers from the sh**hole at N4G who sign up specifically to cause trouble? I can spot them a mile away because…yep, I've been doing this a long time and again, a lot longer than you've been around.