It probably needed to, or there would've been a full-scale gamer revolt.
Speaking to Eurogamer , Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida has confirmed that the recently revealed PlayStation 4 will play used games. That's a relief.
There had been rumors that next-gen consoles would block pre-owned software, but Yoshida said that in regards to the consumer's expectation when they purchase a physical disc, "they want to use it everywhere, right?" Bet GameStop is breathing a little easier now, as a fair portion of their business is pre-owned software; it accounts for over $1 billion in revenue every year. And gamers are probably happy about this as well, although there's bound to be continued debate on the subject.
Oh, and by the way, the reason Sony didn't show off the actual PS4 console last night is simply because as Yoshida just confirmed, the hardware design isn't finalized. Well, hurry up…we wanna see it!
Now how about backward comparability? I won't have much software for the PS4 right off the bat, so ill want to supplement with my PS3 library.
No, only option for PS3 will be GaiKai. Just wait a couple years for more PS4 games to come out, plus many will be at lower prices as will the console.
The PS4 does not have anywhere close to the processing power to do software based PS3 emulation and Sony isn't about to increase production costs to include the bare minimum of having Cell to achieve it for something that will barely be used by most people, especially after a year or two.
Why ? do you expect you re ps3 to magically disappear ?
If you planned to sell you re ps3 so you could buy a ps4 then yeah , it kinda suck for you .
Last edited by berserk on 2/21/2013 2:52:56 PM
Or his PS3 could, ya know, Die?. Just like mine did.
Can't, and will not happen.
Unless you want another $600 system
Sony made a big deal about including a second processor to handle background downloading. Why not use a Cell chip and kill two birds with one stone?
It might be more expensive, but the upside is huge.
(The PS4 GPU is based on the same tech as the PS3's, right?)
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Could care less about used games 99 percent of the time, but hope this will end the bellyaching we hear from some corners of the internet from folks who were OUTRAGED at the thought of BEING FORCED to buy new video games. Quit yer yappin'.
Yet he didnt say the end of Online Passes BS
That is good news. Hopefully those who got grumpy over certain aspects of the PS4 can relax just a bit.
This was a stupid recycled rumor from 2005 and anyone with half a brain should have known it wasn't going to happen. There are far too many issues that have negative consequences for not just Sony but publishers as well for it to happen and not just bad PR either.
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We can relax for another generation.
People that by a console and buy used games have the right to play those games but you do not have the right to use the PSN…..network pass…..end of story.
YES! I knew it couldn't be true and I am so relieved that it's not true.
Your move, Microsoft.
So, where are the BAD news, then? This is almost too much!! lol
Just you wait.. Those interneters will think of something.
It doesn't come with HDMI hahaha
Well finally some good news about the PS4… now if there was also something else that makes me want to buy one..
Maybe some games exclusive to ps4 might do the trick when E3 knock at you re door .
Im thinking free stuff!
If you can't find a reason in that conference you're no gamer son.
So your PS4 downloading the latest bangbus automatically isn't enough for you?
What more do you people want???
dkmrules: what the heck is bangbus?? And no whatever it is, that's certainly not enough for me. All that social mumbo-jumbo and automatic streaming/downloading whatever it is – Couldn't Care LESS.
WorldEndsWithMe, so gaming on the PS3 is suddenly not being considered a gamer anymore huh?
Crabba, how could you miss World's point that badly, bro… :
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If Crabba's like me (and we seem to have had similar reactions to the conference), then games with better graphics in the next generation are a given and no reason to get excited for a new piece of hardware.
I know Sony (not to mention other developers) will make a ton of games for the PS4 and most will be awesome. What gets me excited about new tech (and I was on tenterhooks for a year over the PS3) is the hardware and its capabilities. Right now, I'm pretty tepid.
In short, if I wanted to buy an Xbox, I'd buy an Xbox. Actually, I'd shoot myself in the head, but you get the point.
Last edited by Fane1024 on 2/22/2013 8:35:34 AM
Underdog15 why don't you enlighten me, what did I miss? If you don't care about the social stuff or the streaming, then what? To be honest, I didn't even see any games that looked that exciting to me. That's not saying Uncharted 4 or QD next PS4 game won't be awesome, but just based on the games they showed, let's just say I wasn't floored.
I agree with Fane1024, ofcourse the PS4 will bring some better graphics compared to the PS3, but it's simply not showing that next-gen leap that will last another 5-10 years for me.
Over half of the conference was spent on games and technology. Social was just the extended introduction, really.
How did you think World was suggesting playing PS3 wasn't being a gamer? That was a really strange disconnect there. He was clearly saying that if nothing at all in that conference excited you… not a single thing in that 2 hour conference… that you aren't a gamer.
Quite frankly, he's completely right. Every gamer can easily find something there worth getting excited over.
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I'm a heck of a lot more excited about a couple upcoming PS3 games called The Last of Us & Beyond: Two Souls… If that means I'm not a "real" gamer, well… I guess I'd rather not be a true gamer then…
Great news! Having the inFamous title as a launch title will seal the deal on me pre-ordering the PS4. Killzone would help with that as well.
I always said a KZ and inFamous title at launch would be one of the best ever. And it appears that is the case. Unless inFamous isnt close to ready. I dont remember if they mentioned that or not.
Not surprised. And as for the design, it'll be big, vaguely rectangular, probably black, and there will be a slimmer version at some point. There's a small chance I may be wrong, but I don't see why anyone would be impatient to find out exactly what it looks like.
My concern for playing used is not from buying used. My concern is and always will be renting or borrowing from friends and family. I am not now nor will I in the future, buy a game without playing it first. I dont accept the hype machine that is advertising to give me what I want to know about the games Im buying.
If you cut out used games then you cut out the ability to borrow or rent games. And that is a bad thing.
INB4 3rd Party Developers make their games require a onetime code to even PLAY IT at all.
This is good news. I don't buy many used games but I do occasionally trade in games I no longer play to be able to buy new ones.
There's also the factor where I can't afford a game at release and when I try to get it at a later date there are no new copies available so my only option is pre-owned.
What would really make all this good news about the PS4 great, is if the announce $350 and a $450 bundle! Hey a guy can dream can't he? 😀
If Sony did that then I would be convinced that the Dragon has truly awoken from its slumber. A move like that is only made for one reason. To destroy the competition before it even begins.
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I truthfully dont see this console being over $500. Maybe not the $350-$450 but ya never know.
They're going to want to do the tactful thing with eliminating used gaming. (It will happen one day, I'm sure)
The tactful way is to provide gaming in such a way that a used market can't exist. All the gaming companies want to get rid of used games, but none of them are going to want to be the first ones to forcefully take it away on a whim.
It'll leave because whatever way games are distributed in the future beyond PS4 won't allow for used games to be possible, not by decision, but by mere practicality.
I don't see what used games have to do with practicality?
If you're talking about digital downloads there are already those that have a built-in system for trading and selling those back, and either way an all-digital full games future is completely unrealistic for many years to come, just based on the raw facts of bandwidth limitations.
Just look at something as simple as that Sony reveal video presentation. I have a 12mbps connection and still couldn't even stream the video properly at sub-std definition quality, and some people think it's realistic to think that we will all be downloading day-one million-copy sellers of AAA-50gb-games.
Not now, not in a LONG time. Not ever in my home for that matter.
You need to think more broadly than what has already been done.
why?
lol rly?
Because innovation is what causes industry (of all kinds) to advance. That's what is so great about human ingenuity. We consistently push the buck and force everyone else to say, "How did I not think of that first?"
Because there are actually possibilities you and I haven't been able to consider yet. Because that's the way technology works.
It can't possibly be that difficult to imagine new ways of media delivery, can it? floppy disks… to cartridges or cd rom's… to dvd's to blu ray… we have downloads, then streaming, then high definition, then access keys, then data sharing, and torrents and cloud based servers and holy jeeze that's just the last 25 years or so and I haven't even named everything yet…
Or when you get down to it… you need to think outside the box because the next 5 years will show you things you never even considered existing. Because that's how the world works…
Like… humanity 101 bro.
You mean innovation like digital downloads? blocking used games? Maybe always-online requirement? Or maybe you're referring to Facebook or Twitter? Yeah I think I'll pass, thank you very much.
I'll take my low-tech 50gb 1080p blu-ray's with Dolby TrueHD ahead of your innovative low-bandwidth super-ingenuity 128kbps mp3's any day, but hey that's just me.
New doesn't always necessarily mean better, "bro".