While sources say it's "unlikely" that Sony will announce exact pricing and dates for the PlayStation 4 during today's upcoming press event, the rumors continue to circulate at a rapid clip.

The latest comes from a tipster speaking to Kotaku , and it seems the PS4 will launch in November with an odd starting price of $430. A second model will be available at $530, but the source says these prices aren't exactly "set in stone."

Furthermore, another new piece of information: Supposedly, gamers will be able to control the PS4 remotely via tablet or smartphone. We'll even be able to chat with friends and buy games through their devices, if this particular detail rings true. Additionally, it appears Sony will change the name of their premium subscription service from PlayStation Plus to PlayStation World. Do you like that name better?

Lastly, the PS4 is expected to ship with a PlayStation Eye and a "new spectating feature" that lets gamers watch friends play games from their dashboard, and it doesn't matter if they own the game their friend is playing. Yeah, well, I'm sorry, but that's just a little creepy.

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BikerSaint
BikerSaint
8 years ago

The new Sony d slogan…

"The Playstation Four…We've got our eye on you"

clockwyzebkny
clockwyzebkny
8 years ago

Biker How are you doing brother?

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
8 years ago

clockwyzebkny,
Still hanging in there…for the moment at least.

CrusaderForever
CrusaderForever
8 years ago

Yeah, just read this and feel terrible for what you are going through. Hang in there and hope you can stay online because you are a great poster and make this site better.

Cesar_ser_4
Cesar_ser_4
8 years ago

If that "smartphone/tablet" could be the Vita it would be the bomb. Also, I know this is a very VERY long shot. But, Sony should be able to release games with the same format as the Wii U where you can use the Vita for extra stuff, Not much mind you but something subtle that would make us early Vita adopters feel more special about our purchases. Since there doesn't really seem to be that many games coming to it.

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

I take it practically for granted that the Vita will be much tighter knit with the PS4 than it is with the PS3.

CrusaderForever
CrusaderForever
8 years ago

Well said Cesar_ser_4!!! I am praying that this is the case. It's fun to have the option for Off TV Play or some sort map/inventory system via the Vita.

Kiryu
Kiryu
8 years ago

One new feature I would love. To buy the game disc and install the full game on PS4 and play the game without the disc.

Cesar_ser_4
Cesar_ser_4
8 years ago

Yeah me too, I'd install it and then sell it rinse and repeat… :P, come on dude, its already bad enough that we have to deal with piracy

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
8 years ago

Why do that, just download the game from the PSN or "PS World". That would be pointless and I dont think its an essential necessity based on limited HDD space and the re-sell market already hurting developers.

Kiryu
Kiryu
8 years ago

Downloading takes time buddy.when you buy the disc you already have the full game

___________
___________
8 years ago

it wont be a piracy issue though, there were tons of rumors ages ago saying you would be able to do exactly this, purchase a game and register it to your SEN account and that account will be able to download the game and you no longer need the disk.
than when you sell the game the RFID (radiofrequency identification) tag will detect the disk is being used on a different console, and lock this feature out.
that way returning the game wont work because stores will be able to check out on this, and if its locked out they will contact you and say hey you locked this to your account so you cant return it only trade it.
only problem i can see this causing that will be hard to fix is how many consoles you can have a account linked to.
if your able to link your SEN account to multiple consoles, than people will abuse that and buy a game, than give their details to a friend so said friend can play the game free of charge.
solution restrict activated consoles to a maximum of 2 per account, yea its a pain in the a$$ if you have to constantly activate/ deactivate a console, but thats a price you will have to pay if you want the feature.

ChaseHammer
ChaseHammer
8 years ago

First, NO! Second, I can see it now you buy it install it (which locks the disc to your system) then sell it. Someone that buys the disc gets it home and no game for them. Yeah that will work.

Also if you have the disc your ass is so lazy to get up and change the disc out? Really? Wow. I dont have time to wait for games to finish their 10+GB downloads much less have to wait for the game to install that much data.

Give me a break. Discs will ALWAYS be better (at least in my opinion.)

Hand_of_Sorrow
Hand_of_Sorrow
8 years ago

i'd love to see a november launch, that way i'd know
what i'd be buying myself for my birthday 🙂

$430 is an odd price, maby $499?

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
8 years ago

Not sure everyone is looking at this feature right…

"a "new spectating feature" that lets gamers watch friends play games from their dashboard, and it doesn't matter if they own the game their friend is playing. Yeah, well, I'm sorry, but that's just a little creepy."

Turn that around and it becomes "a 'new spectating feature' that let's you share your game play with your friends allowing them to watch you beat their high score from their dashboard – whether they own the game or not. Stream game play to your friends and show them how it's done!"

It's all about the perspective. I know a lot of people that live stream gameplay on PCs online, I don't personally understand why, nor do I have a desire to watch it, but some do. Each to their own, but I don't think this is creepy, it's not like you'll be able to silently drop in on your friends and watch them play without them knowing.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
8 years ago

Yea I would assume, that their is a feature to accept or to decline the spectator as well as turn the feature off completely.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
8 years ago

That is a great way of putting it.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

That's a nice way to look at it…and I still don't care. 😉

sawao_yamanaka
sawao_yamanaka
8 years ago

It was something that onlive had. It isn't creepy Ben, you actually had the option of turning it off. So you can have it off :p.

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

Yeah I totally agree – just picture a scenario where a buddy asks, "hey how is that game?" and you go, "hook up and I'll show you". All while you chat via the cross game chat feature.

This is not a bad feature at all – in fact I love it!

daus26
daus26
8 years ago

Not only is it a great way of putting it, I think it's actually what it's trying to imply, and nothing else. I mean who the heck would actually watch the actual person playing haha.

Simcoe
Simcoe
8 years ago

Umm, they don't specifically mention anything about spectating "gameplay". Right after talk of the PS Eye (in the same sentence) is the talk about spectating, "new spectating feature will let you watch other friends play games" (Kotaku's words). Sounds like you just watch someone sitting on their sofa playing a game via their PS Eye! Now THAT'S creepy. But I guess those people that are into chat roulette would get a kick out of it.

Okay, so I'm kidding, surely they don't actually intend that, but there is a little voice at the back of my mind that says "don't be so sure". In an age of social connectivity, where so many people knowingly and freely publicize so much about their personal life online (via facebook, twitter, foursquare) for anyone to see, it wouldn't surprise me.

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

It's obviously the gameplay that will be streamed, Simcoe.

Simcoe
Simcoe
8 years ago

@beam
😉

clockwyzebkny
clockwyzebkny
8 years ago

I know these new features seems like a let down and a departure from hardcore gaming but it does sound mildly intriguing to me. Sony has a habit of pushing the boundaries and putting forth new innovative tech and ideas but not following through properly on some ideas. (remote play)
I say if they're doing this, bring it on But give it their all

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

How could anyone object to the name Playstation World? 🙂

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
8 years ago

They did it for you.

kokoro
kokoro
8 years ago

It sounds too typical a name.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
8 years ago

Well ill be honest many times I had wished I coukd access my friends list from my phone. Why I have no idea. But now I think this whole thing about controlling the PS4 remotely is just whack. I mean I dont know how it would work, but it just seems redundant.

sawao_yamanaka
sawao_yamanaka
8 years ago

They have an app for that. You can't message though and it is only for the EU psn accounts.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
8 years ago

If indeed the PS4 comes with the PSeye, I ain't going to hook it up for a babycam.

kraygen
kraygen
8 years ago

I'm thinking it would be handy to watch your friends play games you don't own, then you can figure out if you want to buy them or not if there's no demo.

By the way, is there going to be a good place to watch sony's big press release or are they just releasing a statement online or what?

sawao_yamanaka
sawao_yamanaka
8 years ago

They will stream on the blog. You can also check ign I believe.

kraygen
kraygen
8 years ago

awesome thanks.

kokoro
kokoro
8 years ago

I just hope that Australians wont be overcharged regarding the price of PS4. PS3 cost $1000 dollars when it came out here, despite the fact that our exchange rate was on par with the Americans'!

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
8 years ago

I really don't understand that, why go u guys have to pay more for the systems, games and stuff?

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
8 years ago

Why the heck such a big price, did Sony ship them by 1 Kangaroo at a time?

kokoro
kokoro
8 years ago

@AcHiLLtEriVuS

Around the year 2000 the Australian dollar was buying 50 American cents. The dollar was weak and it was fair that we had to pay much more for consumer electronics than people from other countries. Since then the Australian dollar has steadily risen to be on par with that of the American dollar. My guess is that sellers of consumer electronics hoped that no one would complain about having to pay so much after this had occurred, but now people have started to complain.

There is also an issue with subjecting the prices of consumer electronics to the volatility of the exchange rate. If the rate were to plummet, sellers would have to increase their prices and this would lead to rebellion.

Recently Apple and Microsoft have had to issue statements to the Parliament of Australia explaining why Australians have to pay so much. They gave some lame excuses like "it costs different because the region is different", etc. They are to be summoned to the Parliament sometime in March. We shall see what happens.

@Biker

Haha! Probably =D

Simcoe
Simcoe
8 years ago

kokoro, you're explaining two different times, when the PS3 was released in Australia (early 2007?), your dollar was still far from par with the US dollar (I looked it up), today it's a different story. Plus Australia may have (or have had) higher import duties/tariffs goods produced in certain countries than the US did/does. Then it depends if a VAT or sales tax (if applicable) is included in the retail price or added on a checkout. Plus the actual cost of doing business in Australia could be higher than in the US (smaller population density).

ethird1
ethird1
8 years ago

All I want is a gaming system. I dont want all this mumbo jumbo. All Sony is doing is adding a ton of crap to charge you more.

450 bucks for this crap? Not a chance. But this is how smart Sony is. They will continue making money off of the price drop on the PS3 and charge the hell out of the PS4 for the early dummies who will actually pay that kind of money for a game system.

Then, eventually, they will lower the price of the ps4 as they try to weed out the ps3. So tired of this crap.

daus26
daus26
8 years ago

So by having these features, the PS4 isn't a gaming system?

CrusaderForever
CrusaderForever
8 years ago

You aren't thinking clearly. All these options are bonus material. The PS4 will rock gaming hard. Sony has never turned it's back on the hardcore gamer. There's no reason for Sony not to offer more. This will increase the install base and give Sony more money which means more awesome games. Nvidia is releasing the GTX Titan for $1000 so, yeah there you go. A 10 year life span PS4 for $429/$529 is very much worth it.

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

What's up with the hate? (never thought *I* would say that :D)

This video stream feature to buddies is a tremendous idea! Another great feature for a gaming console.
So we got this, and that 15 minute replay video feature (hopefully), what else will we get? Can't wait to hear more!

Cause these are both features directly related to gameplay. This is a box that is focused on the GAMES and making the best out of the gaming experiences. Create action videos, share awesome gaming moments, what's NOT to like here?

What do you guys want? A gimped, dumb box that's just sitting there idle, fumbling with it's low brows? That'd be Dead On Arrival.

I really, really dig what I've heard so far! This is Sony focusing on making a GAMING device for today and tomorrow. Makin' daddy proud!


Last edited by Beamboom on 2/20/2013 3:47:52 AM

daus26
daus26
8 years ago

Problem now is how much we may have to pay for these features.

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

It's very likely part of the PSN+ scheme, but unless they drastically raise the price then I'm fine with that – it might even finally make me a + member!


Last edited by Beamboom on 2/20/2013 6:52:12 AM

daus26
daus26
8 years ago

Yeah, that's what I thought too. I just hope this whole playstation world stuff is everything but online gaming and the ability to download demos. Those are personally two things that I think should be kept free.

___________
___________
8 years ago

great, another rumor pointing the ps4 to be nothing but a playstationu!
thats all i needed!
🙁

daus26
daus26
8 years ago

What would make it not "Playstation U." Powerful hardware and many great games? Do you personally think the PS4 will be a dumbed down weak console that won't provide any hardcore games?

___________
___________
8 years ago

no not at all, it has to get core games, ND, QD, PD, GG, SP, ect, ect, ect are not going to go creating casual only games!
im worried its going to be what the wiiu is, a wii 1.5 rather than a wii 2.
this is by far the longest generation of consoles, so if anything the gap between the ps3 and 4 technology wise should be larger than previous.
but if anything its going to be less, FAR less!
thats what worries me.
games will be fine, what those games are able to do and use is what worries me.

daus26
daus26
8 years ago

Now I am confused. What do you mean by "what the games are able to do and use?" Well, whatever you mean by that, I don't see how these features can affect the actual games or console for that matter. I don't think you'd have to worry about core games not sticking to their roots, unless you're talking about SE and Final Fantasy. Other than that, it's not like games such as Uncharted, Killzone, Gran Turismo, Infamous, etc. are going to be like facebook games or something.

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