It seems Sony might not be laying all their cards on the table tomorrow.

Although it has become an accepted fact that Sony will announce the PlayStation 4 at a special PlayStation Meeting tomorrow evening, The Times reports that the company probably won't specify an exact launch date or price.

This is because they expect Sony to wait for Microsoft's new Xbox announcement before solidifying that information. Basically, Sony just wants to see what the competition will do before making any decisions. However, that being said, The Times does say the PS4 will be priced at "about £300," which translates to around $464. For the record, that's much cheaper than the PS3, which launched in the UK for £425. Many are anticipating a retail cost of around $500, and a Japanese source found evidence to support an approximate $499 price tag. And I say that's more than reasonable.

At this rate, it does seem inevitable that the PS4 will be significantly cheaper than the PS3 out of the gate. Given nearly seven years of inflation and better technology, does that concern anyone…?

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WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

That's reasonable but still mighty tough to sell at, I myself may hack at the backlog until the first price drop. It all depends on the software though. If the lineup is as rocky as before then there's no need to dive right in. Still excited though.

telly
telly
8 years ago

That's the thing — if the system launches at $400 and has an amazing lineup and really intruiging feature set, many of us, me included, will come up with the money. If Sony launches with a so-so lineup (and let's face it, many consoles don't launch with particularly impressive stuff) I'll be happy to wait 6-12 months for a price drop and better games to come out.

Akuma_
Akuma_
8 years ago

It's funny.

The console launched in Australia at $999 in 2007.

Didn't bother me then….. probably won't bother me now.

Ultima
Ultima
8 years ago

"Given nearly seven years of inflation and better technology, does that concern anyone…?"

Nope. The laptop I bought in 2011 costs less and is VASTLY more powerful than the laptop I bought in 2005.

In fact, it better not be $500 cause that's too much (unless that's a bundle that contains extra stuff; for base console + one controller, hell no) for me, and I suspect most other folks. $400 better be the initial price, or they'll hand victory to Nintendo again.


Last edited by Ultima on 2/19/2013 11:01:38 AM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

Nintendo's "victory" only lasted a few years and in the end, the PS3 will likely surpass the Wii.

Temjin001
Temjin001
8 years ago

and Nintendo's 'victory' wasn't for quantity of highest rated games. No, their victory sits on the shelf in the sort of way as Angry Birds and Pokemon. Which to some, is a victory over nothing.

cLoudou
cLoudou
8 years ago

Almost agreed with you Temjin, until you said Pokemon…

Axe99
Axe99
8 years ago

I think handing victory to Ninty is very unlikely – Ninty's "victory" has set them up for the Wii U struggling to find traction, because the Wii alienated so many core gamers – the key early adopters all consoles need.

Personally, I think $500 would be sensible – it's likely a good balance between power and affordability. $400 would be a dash too cheap (it'll be a step up, but won't have staying power), $600 too niche.

It'll drop soon enough for those that don't want cutting edge – the thing with console cycles is that if they want to stay meaningful for the whole cycle, they need to launch relatively pricey.

Temjin001
Temjin001
8 years ago

wait. were the pokemon's good or something? i remember seeing Pokemon Snap! on a N64 kiosk years ago at a Blockbuster. Since then I've written that franchise off entirely.

Troy Powers
Troy Powers
8 years ago

I doubt Sony will give any real specifics on the hardware either. They'll probably show us what the new PS will look like, and what kind of new features it has, but they most likely won't say exactly how much RAM it has, etc. as that could still change. They may tell us about the processor or video card…maybe. But, yeah, I wouldn't expect too many specifics on anything just yet. Just a lot of show-boating. And I'm fine with that.

Ludicrous_Liam
Ludicrous_Liam
8 years ago

They'll probably just show the PS4 logo and put a little sparkle on it.

Bastards. :p

thedaini
thedaini
8 years ago

I'm sure it's going to be light on details, bt I'd honestly love to see Sony pull a fast one and announce at the end of the conference that the PS4 will be available at retailers starting TOMORROW.

I think it would catch everyone by surprise and put MS in a "oh crap, we've got to catch up" mode. I think the buzz from Sony pulling an unprecedented move like that by announcing and immediately releasing their new system would generate a lot of early sales as opposed to letting the hype train slow down for 6 months.

FatherSun
FatherSun
8 years ago

It would be a coup if Sony accomplished this. Apple announces then puts out products within weeks if not the very next week. I suggested this strategy a long time ago. I actually said.. let MS announce first, then announce PS4 with an earlier launch date at a lower price. That would undercut the competition and leave them with no way out aside from revising their plans completely. Which would not sit well with potential customers. Unless they drastically reduced the price. Business is business and all is fair in corporate warfare.

JROD0823
JROD0823
8 years ago

Do you forget how badly that blew up in the face of Sega when they announced the Saturn basically that very way in NA?

Not even Microsoft would have the cajones (or bankroll) to try that and not expect utter failure.


Last edited by JROD0823 on 2/19/2013 1:03:53 PM

slugga_status
slugga_status
8 years ago

They could always give us more info come E3…

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

I don't really care about that information at this time. I'm more concerned with learning about the actual hardware and capabilities of the device. I'm hoping they didn't skimp on too many things thanks to people being cheap. I bought the PS3 when it first came out and I'll be doing the same for the PS4.

Temjin001
Temjin001
8 years ago

LV, if the sources are to be beleived, it's pretty much a regular PC CPU and mid-high end GPU.

It'll be a matter of moments after the official specs get revealed that PC gamers start trash-talking the laptop-like specs and proclaiming victory over the next-gen.

basically, don't get your hopes up for anything hardware tech-wise to impress.

FatherSun
FatherSun
8 years ago

Historically consoles have always been on the lower end of specifications compared to a PC. It's to be expected. It's the software that makes the difference. And we all on PSX know that is where SONY stands out. Eventually consoles will all be PCs. Or PCs will become consoles. I wonder if consoles will even exist after this generation. I see a merge of cable boxes,consoles and PCs. Digital is making headway. Hold on to your collections fellas.

Akuma_
Akuma_
8 years ago

Well Temjin, see that is the problem.

There are multiple sources claiming different things, I have also heard that the PS4 will boast current high-end PC power. We just have to wait and see.

It's funny, because consoles have always been behind PC's in power, but PC games never actually seem much better than console games.

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
8 years ago

Same with me LV, although it's going to be hard for me since I don't have a job, trying to sort stuff out so that i can get one. (Health stuff)

___________
___________
8 years ago

i wouldent say regular CPU, very few PCs these days have 6 core CPUs, let alone 8!
exactly why i was tossing so much on building mine if i should go for the faster quad 3770K, or the slower hex 3930K , simply worried the extra cores wont be coded for properly.
we wont see any specific hardware details till E3 if that, they probably have not nailed it down yet firstly, and secondly they dont want to announce specs before M$ has announced their system.
plus, you gotta save a little meat for E3.
lets be honest, $ony have done a great job of marketing tomorrows event, but theres still not going to be as many people watching as E3 will have.
whatever big news is ready to be announced by then will be announced at E3, not tomorrow even if it is ready.
i wouldent be surprised if $ony walks in tomorrow and says heres the ps4, heres its new cool controller, these are some of the new features the system will have ie the rumored share feature, use mobiles to buy and send downloads, then some CG trailers of upcoming games.
ill be surprised if they give up too many details, especially since we dont know what the competitions doing.


Last edited by ___________ on 2/20/2013 5:13:53 AM

Buckeyestar
Buckeyestar
8 years ago

I never expected a price or release date, those will come later.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
8 years ago

lol, so this is the first move in the next gen console war of 'chicken'? Who blinks first?

FatherSun
FatherSun
8 years ago

Didn't expect price or release date. Only features and something close to final specs. I think Kaz is playing that corporate game. Stating that Sony will wait for the competition then announcing the PSMeeting a week later. Smart move. Keep them on their toes yet still hold some of those cards.

I took a walk to Manhattan Center on lunch again and can see them setting up the site. Nice furniture.. lol. No one willing to talk and my connection has zero information. So they say. All we know it's that Sony has an event planned for tomorrow. No wonder I am not a private investigator.

Ludicrous_Liam
Ludicrous_Liam
8 years ago

Good work detective! What case will you crack next?

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
8 years ago

Heck, we've got our own N.Y. Noire Detective Cole Phelps right here at PSXE.

Just don't forget to open up your interrogation book during all your investigations, especially, if you plan on "taking down" a 100% in "Intuition" Points with your Chief!

"HEY ROCKSTAR"…. "we need some new DLC, this time make it on FatherSun's back-story" LOL

FatherSun
FatherSun
8 years ago

I'm going to try to crash the event. If I find a way in I'm going for it. Lol.. By this time tomorrow the PS4 will be mine. Lol..

Seriously though, there is a 60/40 chance in my favor. Keep your fingers crossed.


Last edited by FatherSun on 2/19/2013 8:39:54 PM

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

I expect the price to be like with all other Sony products; fair. And as long as we know it's coming before christmas it doesn't matter much to me if it is in October or November, and what day.

At this stage I'm far more curious about new features and hardware than the price.
Like new PSN-stuff, new options and possibilities. Plus, of course, the hardware. Not only the box but the controller and any other peripheral they might show.

Dare I hope for… 3D glasses?

JROD0823
JROD0823
8 years ago

That would be disappointing for me…I don't have a 3D tv yet to be able to enjoy the 3D glasses if they were included. 🙁


Last edited by JROD0823 on 2/19/2013 1:50:28 PM

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

Ah no I didn't mean that kind of 3D glasses. No I have in mind that stuff that's not on the market yet, a headgear where you see the game world in 3D, with a motion sensor that reacts to your head movement (your head is the left analogue stick, sort to speak).

Dang those things look cool.

slugga_status
slugga_status
8 years ago

They said the Oculus Rift would be coming this year but I haven't heard anything yet.

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

Yeah but I don't think Oculus Rift is for Playstation? I do however expect the consoles to come up with their versions of such headgear if Oculus proves to be as awesome as it looks.

And maybe, maybe Sony has one ready for tomorrow? Unlikely, but I cross my fingers anyhow. 🙂


Last edited by Beamboom on 2/19/2013 3:51:45 PM

CrusaderForever
CrusaderForever
8 years ago

@Beamboom

Check these out Beamboom! These look sweet! 🙂

Google this:
Sony's OLED VR goggles display virtual 750-inch cinema screen

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

They are just viewing glasses, Crusader – when I first read about those glasses I *thought* they were going to be interactive with motion sensing, like the Oculus. But they are not 🙁

They look sweet, though. I'd love to give them a try if I were given a chance.


Last edited by Beamboom on 2/19/2013 4:35:51 PM

CrusaderForever
CrusaderForever
8 years ago

Oh, ok, didn't know, thought they were VR glasses where you can turn around and such to look around in the game. Just read the article and they still seem sweet. 150" screen in a little Japanese apt LOL! Cool idea, maybe they can go all the way with the next iteration.

gumbi
gumbi
8 years ago

$500 is exactly what I was expecting (and hoping for believe it or not). That's still a lot cheaper than the 60gb PS3 was at launch, and it's expensive enough to tell me that they didn't cheap out on the hardware.

We'll see, but if it's $500 and it legitimately warrants a $500 tag, then you can count me in!

FatherSun
FatherSun
8 years ago

Yep, me too! Who doesn't like a lower price? But not if it means a compromise in hardware. At least with Sony I have always gotten what I paid for. My intuition is telling me that Sony is going to nail the price, the hardware and the features. Too bad their games suck!!!! Lol.. Just kidding! For those sensitive ones out there.


Last edited by FatherSun on 2/19/2013 3:43:27 PM

Hynad
Hynad
8 years ago

Of course they won't get into those details. They're unveiling it tomorrow. But details on pricing and release date won't come until E3.

This is the usual proceeding.

CrusaderForever
CrusaderForever
8 years ago

Diving in FULL FORCE ON DAY 1!! (Echo, echo echo!)

Axe99
Axe99
8 years ago

I highly doubt they'd have a meeting like this without actually showing at least a prototype – it's a lot of expense to go to.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

Someone will hold it up like the Lion King, and it'll be black.

Underdog15
Underdog15
8 years ago

Circle of life.

Temjin001
Temjin001
8 years ago

don't think they'll mess around with silver'ish chrome? Wasn't the PS3 unveiled with that? Complete with it's bat-erang controller and Spider-man the movie font?

Corvo
Corvo
8 years ago

I would love to see GT6 tomorrow. Then MS could see those graphics and realize they no longer have what it takes to falsify the belief that their console is stronger. If anything, the MS/Sony fight will be over. And then just like a wimpy bully, they'll pick a fight with the next kid they think they can push around. The only problem is Nintendo doesn't have much going for them and if MS manages to take away Ninty's support with Kinect features and that dumb microglass thing then Ninty might be finished.

FatherSun
FatherSun
8 years ago

Imagine.. Sony and Nintendo.. together again. Mario on the PS5?

Ludicrous_Liam
Ludicrous_Liam
8 years ago

Maybe I'm in denial, but I still can't quite imagine Sony announcing the Playstation 4 tommorrow. I mean, we haven't ACTUALLY got anything concrete yet. The internet has a tendency to hype things up – and what goes up comes (disappointingly) down – so I'm keeping my expectations firmly down to the ground.

I had this feeling when I had the PS2 as well (because I was a somewhat late adopter with both consoles), but I still feel as though there is so much more to come for the PS3. The massive jump that was the PS2 to the PS3 was something that warranted a new generation; so many new and better ways of creating games were introduced. I held out for about a year before realising that simply, a PS3 would have the games I wanted.

With the supposed details of this new generation (because that's all they really are), I'm just not feeling it yet; my PS3 is the ultimate facility for the games I want.

But if Sony can sucker me in like they did the last time, I'll probably eat my words.


Last edited by Ludicrous_Liam on 2/19/2013 6:43:49 PM

FatherSun
FatherSun
8 years ago

I'm in the same boat. The POTENTIAL for SONY to literally ROCK the world is there. But we may just get some pebbles.

___________
___________
8 years ago

if the history of playstation videos, and the future of playstation tease, are not confirmations of a ps4 announcement than what is!?
i was skeptical too, but after seeing all the history of playstation trailers, $ony wouldent show those unless they are announcing their replacement!
$ony have done some REALLY stupid stuff in the past, but not even those monkeys can be THAT stupid!
that wouldent even classify as shooting yourself in the foot, that would be shoving a nuke up your a$$ and detonating it!
they have put it into everyones head that the ps4 is announcing tomorrow, if its not they have royally f*cked themselves BIG TIME!


Last edited by ___________ on 2/20/2013 5:11:52 AM

Ludicrous_Liam
Ludicrous_Liam
8 years ago

Well, well maybe they were just feeling nostalgic! Yeah, yeah that's all it is!

lol, I really am in denial. Not long now, lets see what Sony has to show. Still keeping my expectations down though.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
8 years ago

Mind you these are still just rumors below unless actually confirmed at tomorrow's PS meeting, but…..

Kotaku reports that their "source" states that the PS4 will have……

A fancy new user account system that will allow multiple people to log into one console at the same time,

You'll be able to control the PS4 remotely from your tablet/smartphone. You'll be able to use mobile devices to chat with your PS4 friends or buy games which are then automatically downloaded to your machine,

"Most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, replacing PS+.

Every PS4 will come with a PS Eye, that a new spectating feature will let you watch other friends play games from your console's dashboard, even when you don't own the game they're playing; and that the console will support local network play via Vita.

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