As just about everyone knows by now, Microsoft will release a Kinect-less Xbox One on June 9 for $399.

As far as I'm concerned, that should've been an option on launch day. Had this been the case, I'm sure Microsoft would have the next-gen console lead in North America, and the gap wouldn't be quite as large internationally. The problem was that consumers don't like being forced to purchase an accessory; in some ways, Kinect is more of a gimmick than anything else.

But now that Microsoft has finally done the right thing, and consumers can buy a PS4 and an Xbox One for the same price, it's time for Sony to respond. They won't drop the price of the PS4 yet, obviously, but they can impress everyone by doing what they always do: Excelling in the category of first-party exclusive software. Such titles not only set new quality bars for the industry, they also push the envelope in a variety of ways. PlayStation has always outstripped Xbox when it comes to exclusives, and Sony has to prove that they're still king.

So, at E3, they better wow the crowd. Sure, we'll see Uncharted 4 , The Order: 1886 , and probably a new God of War and The Dark Sorcerer . However, it would help if we had gameplay and dates for these games; even if we can't get all that information, we need at least some of it. Sony needs to prove that in a battle against the Xbox One, it's still a better idea to get the PS4. And with games like Sunset Overdrive (an Xbox One exclusive and a new IP) getting lots of press right now, Microsoft appears to have all the momentum.

The only way for Sony to steal it back? Games. It's what PlayStation does .

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Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

I am a little worried Sony might have lost the chance to really checkmate them. Games are needed right now to do that.

Nix50
Nix50
7 years ago

I get what you mean, but I think something like this would really push Sony to up the ante. They came flying out the gates and I have full faith they can keep it up.

Asuno
Asuno
7 years ago

What, like how Sony expected to sell 5 million PS4s by the time March hit but actually sold 7 million? Trust me, they know what there doing.

godsman
godsman
7 years ago

You want a checkmate? Then sony should introduce a 12gb harddrive less version for 329. The greatest advantage in ps4 hardware is the replaceable hd. All hardcore gamers will want this option to upgrade to 2 terabytes.

Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

Asuno,
That's a great start, but how in the world is that a checkmate if the progress ends there? As for good AAA titles early in a console's lifespan, the PS brand doesn't exactly have the best track record of good quality year 1 (and sometimes year 2) list of exclusives.

I'm not saying they won't succeed, I'm saying they may be missing their opportunity to put XBO down. You know I'm right.

Godsman,
That would be excellent. I'd be getting one much sooner.

TomBradySucks
TomBradySucks
7 years ago

Why do you want a checkmate? If anything, this entire year long reversals by Microsoft has PROVEN healthy competition benefits the consumer.

Sony has been listening to what fans wanted from the get-go and Microsoft is now going to great lengths to right the wrongs of their console launch.

Seems like both companies will focus on the games now, specifically exclusives.

Everyone wins.


Last edited by TomBradySucks on 5/14/2014 12:14:42 PM

Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

I could not disagree more about Microsoft being good for the industry.

The PS2 era, where Sony was dominant, was the best era for variety and quality (for what was possible at the time).


Last edited by Underdog15 on 5/14/2014 1:25:11 PM

TomBradySucks
TomBradySucks
7 years ago

And then what happened? Sony got complacent and released a PS3 for $600 with not a strong initial software lineup. Forced to play catch up, they focused on pumping out quality first party titles and dropped the price.

Microsoft is in a somewhat similar situation at the start of this gen.

Despite what you think of the company, having a healthy competition between two console makers will always be a good thing for the industry.

Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

So, by that epiphany of yours, they should make sure to allow competition to gain ground then? Yes… I'm sure that's exactly what they want to do as a for profit… allow the competition to take more market share…

Don't act like MS's launch was so much better. They released a defective POS that failed 30% of the time… they effectively destroyed the jrpg genre… they employed more than sketchy LIVE policies… offset costs for marketing, including hostile marketing, from other sections of the company allowing the XBOX brand as a standalone to remain in the red in order to make an attempt at monopolization… they paid for timed and DLC exclusives…

Yes… MS is -sooooo- good for the industry and consumer….

Both companies experienced issues with network hacking. Neither handled it ideally, imo, but of the two, Sony definitely had much better customer service.


Last edited by Underdog15 on 5/14/2014 1:57:54 PM

TomBradySucks
TomBradySucks
7 years ago

I never said that they should allow MS to gain ground. At all. I was simply questioning why anyone (fanboys included) would want to see either console fail. I never understood that logic. I was simply stating that each company was in the lead at some point, and the other needed to make adjustments to their product and strategy to play catch up. You do that by winning over the consumer. And it usually means the consumer will benefit.

A perfect example of this was Microsoft having the perceived better online service last generation. Sony responds with Playstation Plus. An annual subscription service that essentially gives you free games as long as you remain a subscriber. This carries over to this generation (also becoming a requirement for online play) and becomes a clear advantage over Xbox Live, which offers no free games on Xbox One. Microsoft responds by beginning to offer free games as well. Now everyone gets free games!

Since Spencer took over the Xbox division at Microsoft , they have been doing and saying all the right things. Listening to fans, reversing unpopular policies, focusing on games. A lot of things you mentioned are over a decade old and the management that was in place (both at the corporate and Xbox level) are long gone from Microsoft. Time to let go of the hate…


Last edited by TomBradySucks on 5/14/2014 2:33:42 PM

Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

"I never said that they should allow MS to gain ground. At all."

"Why do you want a checkmate? If anything, this entire year long reversals by Microsoft has PROVEN healthy competition benefits the consumer."

I can see why you don't think these are polar opposite statements, but they are inconsistent.

You are saying it's better when they are more even AND saying they shouldn't allow MS to gain ground at all. I mean… are you suggesting the lead ratio they have now is ideal and they should aim to keep it exactly at that ratio? Because that is the only option left, now.

TomBradySucks
TomBradySucks
7 years ago

You're getting a little too caught up in trying to nitpick inconsistencies in my posts. And I'm speaking on behalf of the consumers, not either company. Obviously both MS and Sony want the biggest lead as possible while making the most money as possible.

My overall point was that as a customer wanting either console to flat out fail, or looking for one to "checkmate" the other is foolish. If the Xbox price drop increases sales and closes the gap, forcing Sony to drop the price as well, how is that bad? If MS offers free games to mimick Sony's PSPlus, encouraging Sony to offer even more freebie games or services, how is that bad? Companies fighting for our money is always a good thing. That's really my only point.

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

yah, as I just barely posted from a prior headline, the PS4 and XO now feel extremely similar. Very similar price and core tech. Very similar services. Very similar 3rd party support. It feels like it's all about what peripherals you'll want to connect and what exclusives you'll want to play.

Hopefully Sony doesn't disappoint with them exclusives come E3.

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

they might as well just merge and become one company already…
Merge the franchises too.
Gran Motorsports
Halo Zone
Uncharted Overdrive
Beyond Quantum
Kratos' Ryse

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

oh yah, "An Infamous Fable"
two games about moral choices together at last….

okay. I'm done for now.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
7 years ago

What about:
Ratchet Kazooie
Killer Battle Royale
LipsStar
Demon's Odyssey
LittleBigSpark
Gears of SOCOM?

SaiyanSenpai
SaiyanSenpai
7 years ago

Similar but at the same price, the PS4 is still smaller with a more attractive design, no external power brick, more powerful, and a removable hard drive.

When comparing any consumer electronics at the same price point with such obvious pros over the other, it's still a no-brainer which one to get.


Last edited by SaiyanSenpai on 5/13/2014 11:08:21 PM

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
7 years ago

Saiyan

When you say, "the PS4 is still smaller with a more attractive design, no external power brick, more powerful, and a removable hard drive.", do any of those stuff really matter?


Last edited by Killa Tequilla on 5/14/2014 1:59:49 AM

firesoul453
firesoul453
7 years ago

Hopefully having two consoles about equal in market share will improve everything for the consumer.

Oh and I would definitely buy Ratchet Kazooie!

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

I feel retarded for not having matched up Ratchet & Overdrive…. or Sunset & Clank.

*kicks over can*

SaiyanSenpai
SaiyanSenpai
7 years ago

Killa

You ask a ridiculous question. Smart design decisions that benefit the consumer and add to their convenience ALWAYS matter.

And it seems short-sighted of MS's original online-only vision to include a NON-upgradeable HDD. Talk about retarded.

I know USB drives are supported but I don't want to have a goofy limb hanging off the XO in the form of an external hard drive to go along with the external power brick and oversized camera. They need to start thinking about the consumer and make things convenient for them. Don't expect me to clutter my nice, clean entertainment center with all sorts of stuff that the competition keeps internal to their box.

TL:DR. It matters

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
7 years ago

Release timing of the Kinectless SKU coincides with E3… Looks to me as though MS is planning to drop some stunners on their stage that will inspire people to pick up an XBO. And I'm keen for some competition.

I reckon Sony's best bet to mitigate it is to drop the price by $50 at E3. They'll take a hit, but not nearly as much as they did on the PS3 for its first two years considering the PS4 currently turns a profit for Sony off the console and a single game. And they'd better be prepped for whatever MS is showing at E3 with some big plans of their own.

The Order and Uncharted 4 are musts, as are showings from at least two other major projects, like Santa Monica's or Quantic Dream's. Whatever happens, I reckon that things are about to get very, very interesting for gamers in the very near future. Now I'm all excited for E3… Just when I'd convinced myself that I wouldn't be.

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

I think a price drop seems unlikely when Sony claims they're still having troubles meeting demand.
Also, seeing that both consoles cost roughly the same to produce neither party will want to take a hit for every console sold while they don't have to.

I say the best bet is to cultivate strong software and brand recognition of that software.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
7 years ago

Oh, I do agree that a price cut is highly unlikely, but I think that it would really help to keep the momentum in Sony's corner. You're right on the second part, though.

Akuma_
Akuma_
7 years ago

Yeah I thought this as well.

Some people think that Sony has positioned their conference strategically (8 hours after MS') so that they can change their presentation and respond to anything big Microsoft does. I dunno about that.

A $50 price cut would be a great way to undercut MS.

But now Sony can only win with exclusives, and at this point I am concerned that they don't have that anymore. They are going to run the risk of becoming the God of War or Uncharted console. They NEED new IP's.


Last edited by Akuma_ on 5/14/2014 7:36:03 PM

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
7 years ago

Just read a news article today that said the PS4 had sold 7 million & a Microsoft official who stated that their Xbone sold 5.1 million, as of April 17th.

So sony's almost 2 mil up for the moment.

BTW, it didn't state what the U.S. totals were though.

Shauneepeak
Shauneepeak
7 years ago

It wasn't sold 5.1 million it was "shipped to retailers" Microsoft refuses to state how many they have sold.

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
7 years ago

Sony's are to customers were as MS are to shops.
MS are in between 3 & 4 million….if their lucky.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
7 years ago

VGChartz has them at 7.5M and 4.5M respectively, while their week-to-week sales tracking for N/A shows a slight slant to the XBO I'm pretty sure since release. The margin is slim as though. Usually within 5000 units.


Last edited by Lawless SXE on 5/13/2014 11:09:46 PM

Temjin001
Temjin001
7 years ago

sometimes I think vgchartz is on crack. I'm pretty sure for March they had the XO beating out the PS4 on a week to week basis by their numbers, but then the NPD comes out and says PS4 is on top. Worse yet for febuary the numbers were looking somewhat close by VGchartz reckoning, then sure enough the NPD comes out and says the PS4 outsold the XO by a nearly 2:1 ratio.

I have no idea what to expect from late Thursday of next week for April's NPD numbers.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
7 years ago

FYI, I already knew that M$ likes to give out shipped numbers instead of sold, but as I previously stated, that's what I read today from Reuters News Service(plus 2 others that have now been replaced with much newer, more important, news, like those 200+ Turkish coal miners who died when they were trapped in a coal mine explosion & fire….R.I.P).

Anyway, here's the part of the article in question, from Reuters…..

(BTW, one of the other articles did give the name of the M$ official who stated the MS "Sold" number).

Sales of the Xbox one console have lagged Sony's PS4 since their holiday launches. Microsoft Corp said last month it has sold over 5 million Xbox One video game consoles as of April 17. The console went on sale on Nov. 22 in 13 countries, including the United States, United Kingdom and Australia, a week before Sony's PS4 which sold more than 7 million units as of April 6.


Last edited by BikerSaint on 5/14/2014 12:55:25 AM

Shauneepeak
Shauneepeak
7 years ago

The writer of that article is mistaken if you read the other articles that came out today most should say "shipped" 5.1mil.
Though technically even sold wouldn't be inaccurate because retailers do purchase their stock.

Ignitus
Ignitus
7 years ago

Is not only about releasing games. Sony must release very good games. So far Sony's line up has been underwhelming. Killzone SF and Knack were a disappointment for me. I have yet to play Infamous SS but for the comments I have heard it didn't really set the PS4 on fire.

Overall I think the PS4 is going to be fine. It's going to have the best multiplat games to carry it on this time.

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
7 years ago

It be those 2nd wave of exclusives that yee be waiting for.
1st wave games usually be the same or worse than the last wave of the previous gen.
Tis why i refrain from buying a PS4….for now.

Akuma_
Akuma_
7 years ago

I don't know anyone who played Infamous SS and didn't have an absolute blast playing it.

KingRed
KingRed
7 years ago

Knack was for the kids. I think it did it's job as my nephew loved it and all the other little kids, I've see played it did too.

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
7 years ago

Show everything ya got
EVERYTHING!!

pavlovic
pavlovic
7 years ago

The PS3 has the momentum.

This New generation looks like it's just about sold consoles and not games.

If this lack of games continues There wont be a reason to buy a PS4 or XO

kraygen
kraygen
7 years ago

I like reading the headlines, "Xbox One has huge price drop!" Umm no, you're just not paying for the part that requires you to yell at your tv any more. You know, the part you didn't want in the first place.

I don't really see this as that big a deal. Yes it's cheaper, but it doesn't do one of the things MS was trying to push so hardcore. Voice activated everything is now gone until you do spend that extra $100. Now 1/3 of the power of that xone is wasted on an operating system that you won't even be using.

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
7 years ago

This is the work of Phil Spencer. He is already turning things around as the new head of the Xbox Division.

Beamboom
Beamboom
7 years ago

I'll admit it, Sunset Overdrive looks like a *hell* of a lotta fun.

Cynics can mumble it looks like Infamous all they like, fact is that it looks like a better Infamous so it wins regardless.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
7 years ago

It definitely looks like Classic Insomniac, rather than po-faced Fuse Insomniac. It looks like Ratchet and Clank, inFamous and Saint's Row all got in one big orgy, and the kid is a mix of the best of the three. Must resist urge to buy an XBO on SO's release day…

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
7 years ago

Get an Xbox One and Sunset Overdrive

Beamboom
Beamboom
7 years ago

Lawless;
You nailed it! It definitely looks like the perfect blend of Ratchet&Clank and Infamous!

One gotta hand it to Microsoft; They got a winner there. This is how Infamous should have evolved.
It just looks crazy fun to dangle about in that game. It looks so insanely playable!

SirLoin of Beef
SirLoin of Beef
7 years ago

Indeed. I checked the trailer out and it's definitely a game I'm going to pick up when it comes out. It looks like it'll be a lot of fun to play.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
7 years ago

Looks like we all got some haters for lovin' on Sunset Overdrive. I love the haters:
"I tell it how it is and they got nothing to say,
I tell the haters I love them, just to f**k with their brain." – House of Dreams, Bliss n Eso

Underdog15
Underdog15
7 years ago

Problem for me is, I wasn't as big into inFamous as I thought I was. I never finished the first one and haven't touched the second or third. I even have the second thanks to PS+…

Beamboom
Beamboom
7 years ago

Underdog,
I started to grow tired of Infamous by the end of the first game, and the sequel didn't bring enough new to the table to reignite the enthusiasm – I didn't get very far into it before I stopped playing it.

The third do look like "even more of the same" but at least the visuals seems to be so upgraded now that I really do want to play it. But yeah, I know what you mean.

telly
telly
7 years ago

Sunset Overdrive looks like a BLAST. I'm a big fan of Insomniac, this one looks like the start of a great new series.

Beamboom
Beamboom
7 years ago

OMG I feel so stupid now… Only *now* did I realize that it indeed was Insomniac that made Ratchet & Clank as well. No wonder it's so colourful and R&C'ish!

/me slaps forehead