One rumor stated that Sony's new PlayStation console would focus more on "social features" and the general "user experience," instead of pushing big-time specs.

Now, another piece of information seems to support that somewhat unsettling theory. According to Engadget citing an "unnamed Sony official" speaking to Japanese newspaper Nikkei, the PS4's main selling point will be how it "introduces new play options."

The source says Sony intends to promote the new system as a home entertainment "nerve center," and the machine will connect and share with mobile devices. The latter's gaming portfolio has expanded drastically over the past generation, what with the advent of smartphones and tablets, and many analysts see that market as a potential threat to traditional consoles. So it seems the PS4 might try to be one of those all-in-one systems that everyone will want; i.e., it won't appeal to only hardcore gamers.

Of course, this also implies that the specs won't be so through-the-roof crazy…which is a little worrisome, depending on how you view the situation.

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WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

Let the war for the living room commence!

But hey, it's Sony, I don't think gamers have anything to be worried about on the gaming side of things. There will still be plenty of big studios at Sony so other divisions can work on this social and technical interconnectivity crap that is so popular now. I think of it as a necessary evil.

Temjin001
Temjin001
8 years ago

yep over 15 years of great playstation gaming and commitment to taking care of us, the core gamer, has me totally confident we'll be taken care of for the years to come.

And quite frankly, I think if Sony tried to position the next playstation as another 'powerful, yet expensive' piece of hardware they'd probably suffer for it, and in the end we'd suffer for it as well.

I like the idea of trying to communicate it's offering well beyond the predictable, bigger badder, better style approach. Besides, isnt the PS3 already a living room hub as it is for all things media? That's been a staple of sony's since PS2, not certain why people are acting so dismayed about it now. A whole ton of us got stuck paying for a blu-ray media standard…. and don't anyone say it made the games better for it. Because, in fact, MANY ps3 games, like 97+ percent of them couldve fit comfortably on a dual layered DVD. Only the larger, BIG games, like the RPG's (bigger than Skyrim rpgs) would've necessitated as much. Otherwise all we really netted was FMV(few who really use that a lot anymore) at a higher bit-rate.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 2/8/2013 3:01:05 PM

Nas Is Like
Nas Is Like
8 years ago

Damn it, Sony.

WHY????

TrueAssassin86x
TrueAssassin86x
8 years ago

Well if this is true there wont be a next generation for me. With talks about the next generation Xbox blocking used games & Now this for the Ps4 well I don't know.

I'll keep my Ps3 & 360 for as long as I can. Then I will retire from gaming. I might get the Wii-U if I am looking for something different other wise IM DONE.

matt99
matt99
8 years ago

First, I doubt the PS4 will disappoint you so much that you give up gaming. And second, there's still PC gaming.

TrueAssassin86x
TrueAssassin86x
8 years ago

Well matt I am not spending thousands of dollars to build a PC gaming rig only to be out dated the next month after I finish it.

the only reason I am setting my self up for a disappointment is. I was let down by the hype of the Wii-U I'm sure the Ps4 wont be like that but we will see.


Last edited by TrueAssassin86x on 2/8/2013 1:16:43 PM

matt99
matt99
8 years ago

Well I certainly understand your reservations, but nintendo strayed off the hardcore path a while ago and Sony, while they've made their mistakes, have never given us a reason to believe they'd abandon hardcore gamers so I wouldn't worry.

Geobaldi
Geobaldi
8 years ago

I am so tired of hearing people say this over and over. It does not cost thousands of dollars to build a gaming PC, and it will only go out of date that quick if you buy obsolete parts to begin with. If you buy Alienware, then yeah it will, but they are way overrated to begin with as you can build the same systems they sell for less then half of what they charge. I've built three of them now and each one has lasted a good 5+ years before needing parts replaced. And that's only because I wanted to, not because they needed to.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

Geobaldi: And I'm tired of hearing the PC elitists claim PC gaming isn't expensive.

Bullsh**. No, it doesn't cost thousands of dollars to BUILD a gaming PC. But then again, not everyone has the knowledge or inclination to get involved in that kind of project, nor is everyone interested in going to such extreme amounts of effort and research just to play a video game.

While consoles are more like PCs than ever, and the days of just switching a machine on and playing are disappearing, there is still no more complex platform than a PC. You still have to know what piece does what, you still have to replace and upgrade individual pieces, you still have to fiddle with settings, etc, etc, etc.

And even for those who know exactly what they're doing, to say a PC is as cheap is a console is still a gross fallacy. Build the most cost-effective PC you want…no chance in hell it'll only cost you $300 or $400. None. And even if the PS4 costs $500, it'll last someone at least six or seven years, if not ten. A gaming PC for $500? Lasting a decade? No.

If you're interested in computers and you enjoy the nuts and bolts of that technology, and you have TIME to waste researching and buying and putting together, then by all means. Go for it. I have nothing against that. It's just that not everyone is equipped for the endeavor, nor do they WANT to be equipped for the endeavor.

Temjin001
Temjin001
8 years ago

Ben I don't think Geobaldi was acting elitest here, maybe he has in other threads, I don't know. But here he's just defending against the myth that PC gaming is highly expensive, thousands of dollars expensive and they look down at console gamers with snobbish pride.

I absolutely agree with you about the long term value of console hardware. There's absolutely no competing with that.
But one definite thing I can attest to about PC gaming is that buying new games is almost always less money and great deals are a lot easier to come by. It may be a lot of money out of the gate at first to get a quality gaming rig going, but much of the savings comes in the form of software. Also, services like Cloud saves and auto-patches for games come free for PC gamers and are not an extraneous service one must pay additional for to have.

As for the building of hardware. I definitely agree being a PC gamer isn't for everyone and advocating as if PC gaming is the ambrosia console gamers should come to really isn't for everyone. But even then, while it does help a lot to have some tech knowledge, it really isn't absolutely necessary.

Though, the flip side is that people do have fun building PC's, and can learn to have fun with them and they don't view it as a 'waste of their time'

I'd say a big interest of mine going for the degree I'm going for began by being exposed to computer hardware very early on in my life. It created a fun hobby for myself outside of games, even though it was inspired by pc games, and it also is a market, where in this location I live has a 3 to 1 job-to-graduate ratio of employment opportunities in the CS field of work.


Last edited by Temjin001 on 2/8/2013 4:21:25 PM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

Temjin: I wasn't referring to Geobaldi as a PC elitist (although he can't seem to stop mentioning the PC in some form in basically every post he ever makes); I was just referring to that group as a whole. The group who acts all uppity as if PC gaming is somehow vastly superior and that only "real" gamers build their gaming machines.

As you say, you were introduced to it at a young age. Imagine learning all that afresh now, or just wandering into the world of building gaming PCs with the standard, everyday knowledge of a regular person…no chance it'll be as interesting or as appealing. Furthermore, I don't care if you're a tech genius; a PC is simply never as cheap as a console, whether you build it or not.

Temjin001
Temjin001
8 years ago

someday …. someday ben if I ever become really really loaded with cash I'll build you a high powered gaming PC loaded with games just so you can become one of us MUWAAHAHAHAHA =p

(like, really rich, so dont get your hopes up 😉


Last edited by Temjin001 on 2/8/2013 5:18:07 PM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

Anytime you'd like to do that, feel free. I don't frown on more games to play, even if many are genres I'm not typically interested in. 🙂

The Real Deal
The Real Deal
8 years ago

lol

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

I gotta say though, that what Geobaldi actually commented on here was the claim that "I am not spending thousands of dollars to build a PC gaming rig only to be out dated the next month after I finish it". And that *is* bullshit and it's not elitish at all to point that out.

The claim that PC hardware can't be used for gaming a few months after you bought it, is something I wish we could just stop saying.
It's nonsense, and really quite frustrating to read! It's like hearing that a console is only for casual gamers (there are those who claim so too).

Ben is right in what he says about building and maintaining a PC, and PC gaming is in that respect like other hobbies that require some insight to enjoy (that means pretty much any hobby out there, doesn't it). To some that is a chore, to others that is pure joy.

And in the long run, if you take into account the fact that games typically *are* cheaper on PC, well then things will start to even out for those who buy a lot of games. But is PC the most costly platform of the two? Sure, it probably is. But it's not a thousands of dollars difference.


Last edited by Beamboom on 2/9/2013 3:37:59 AM

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
8 years ago

Im really not interested in a PS3.5. If the competition looks and runs better, Sony may have lost me. I dont play games to connect with Facebook, or anything like that. I play games because of what games like Uncharted do for the industry, and I dont care about controlling Drake with a touchpad or motion controls. I want to play games in the traditional sense.

I might be holding out on the PS4 if anything like this is true. Im just not interested in a social media console. I want my games to run at 60fps at 1080P.

Xombito
Xombito
8 years ago

You have to evolve with the times. And to be competitive you need to offer the options that are standard now. I'm sure the PS4 will be powerful enough to offer a great gaming experience.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

Right on, no need to panic

matt99
matt99
8 years ago

Ya, I think 'better specs' is so obvious that MS and Sony don't need to make it a main selling point. Also, anyone who cares about better specs is already a gamer and therefore doesn't need to be sold on the system (as long as it does in fact have better specs and good games). So console developers are trying to appeal to other markets in addition to the hardcore gamers, not instead of them.

I really don't see a reason to worry.


Last edited by matt99 on 2/8/2013 11:58:26 AM

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
8 years ago

8 cores is for wimps,i want 32
and ten GAHGILLION petra bytes of ram
and a hologram disc reader
and a little gizmo that puts me in the game
AHAHAHAHAAAA


Last edited by Lord carlos on 2/8/2013 11:49:44 AM

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
8 years ago

maybe a holocube reader

wackazoa
wackazoa
8 years ago

I'd rather just go to Recall.

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
8 years ago

Don't believe those ads!
A guy i knew went to rekall and got himself labotomized

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

I'm not worried.

I think it is smart of them to try to be the "nerve centre" of living room entertainment. It's what it has the potential of being. Using the machines power also for other things doesn't take anything away from the gaming power at all.
It only makes it more attractive, easier to spend cash on.

It doesn't hurt anyone if this machine appeals also to those who want a good movie player in their living room, media stream client, music jukebox, mobile media playback, and so forth. They are only additional arguments to get one.


Last edited by Beamboom on 2/8/2013 11:53:40 AM

Natalisrubbish
Natalisrubbish
8 years ago

They just mean that the games may have even more variety this time around with a bigger focus on casual gamers and their related peripherals. We have all seen the specs, I don't think hardcore gamers have anything to worry too much about. The PS4 specs so far kind of remind me of the PS1 days in regards to how much more accessible the system will be to developers. It won't be a bad thing in the end. That is my prediction, we will see.

bebestorm
bebestorm
8 years ago

Im not concerned because sounds like its just more options as long the standard Dual Shock remains Im good!

ryu
ryu
8 years ago

isn't PS3 barely at its potential? and i've heard this home entertainment center BS before

matt99
matt99
8 years ago

If Naughty Dog says they've maxed out the PS3 then I'd say it has reached its potential.

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
8 years ago

beyond two souls will look better than the last of us,the last guardian will look better than beyond two souls & Agent will look better than the last guardian 🙂

PSTan
PSTan
8 years ago

Good! People will have more incentive to buy the system, rather than just improved tech. Here's to hoping for more innovation and fresh experiences!

clockwyzebkny
clockwyzebkny
8 years ago

I'm not sure how to take this news. On one hand, it sounds mildly disappointing. I always liked and counted on the playstations' improved and new tech.
On the other hsnd, i could understand why Sony would want to expand their user base more with social features.
I'm optimistically hoping that the tech is greatly improved but Sony just wants some of the public to be aware of some social gaming implementations.
btw off topic…where's jawknee? I remember he use to be real active and very opinionated

JROD0823
JROD0823
8 years ago

Highlander doesn't make as frequent of appearances either.

I enjoy their commentary, even if I don't always agree.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
8 years ago

Highlander is here!! 🙂

wackazoa
wackazoa
8 years ago

Meh…. They keep trying to have devices that sync up your various electronic devices. I will wait and see how this turns out.

JROD0823
JROD0823
8 years ago

I don't exactly understand how the conclusion can be drawn that because the PS4 will allegedly be introducing new play options, that the console hardware will be somehow diminished in performance capabilities.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't see why there has to be a "one or the other" mentality on the capabilities of the PS4.

I would like to think that Sony will give us a monster of a console performance-wise to please the hardcore gamers, and still offer its consumers with more or new play options to draw in the casual crowd.

Snaaaake
Snaaaake
8 years ago

Well I read that OUYA will come out with a new version EVERY year so I hope Sony can come up with something phenomenal.

amonte64
amonte64
8 years ago

People keep forgetting everything is just RUMORS. There were many rumors in 6th gen and 7th gen that NEVER happened. Just wait until everything is official, sheesh. Also, if you wanna go with rumors, rumors say PS4 will be more powerful than 720 so you have nothing to worry about PS4 being inferior. What I do have to say is, any console that requires an internet connection I will NEVER purchase, and I'm glad most consumers feel the same way. At least they're smart on that. 🙂

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
8 years ago

Here is what worries me, the unfinished thought in this sentence from the article…
"So it seems the PS4 might try to be one of those all-in-one systems that everyone will want; i.e., it won't appeal to only hardcore gamers." – In fact, if the technical specs are so-so, it may not appear to hardcore gamers or early adopters because it lacks that special cache of being the latest and greatest.

Temjin001
Temjin001
8 years ago

I have to say it loses a bit of it's tech savor in knowing that we'll be getting a streamlined PC in a closed box.
But considering Sony's dire financial situation could we really have expected them to delve deep to bring us another home-grown processing unit?
I would've been up for a more approachable Cell BE upgrade, but it seems to me doing so would've burned more of a hole in Sony's small pocket of cash.

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

Is the average console owner really that concerned about the "latest and greatest" hardware? If he were, wouldn't he then be a PC gamer?

What I believe is that the next PS only needs to be as good or better than the competing consoles. If *that* is in place, then I believe the Orbis will be considered to be the "latest and greatest CONSOLE" cause, well, fact is that it is.

What would be horrible, is if Microsoft came with a new console that were obviously better on some key areas. That would be a disaster.


Last edited by Beamboom on 2/9/2013 4:47:07 AM

Vivi_Gamer
Vivi_Gamer
8 years ago

Well if the new console isn't about specs I'll be interested to see these new playing options and why they cannot be implemented onto the PS3… I am trying to not get to hyped up for this release, far to busy with Xenoblade at the moment, but I will be sure to see what happens on the 20th for sure.

DrRockso87
DrRockso87
8 years ago

This doesn't really worry me. Yes, I love having high-end tech in my console but at what cost? Look at the PS3. It's a beast!

The cell processor was expensive by itself and unfortunately most third-party developers didn't make much use of it so Sony took a hard hit with the manufacturing costs for years before seeing profit.

However, with said, the LAST thing I want to see happen is the PlayStation 4 be Sony's alternative Wii-U. If you want to market to families then fine but don't forget gamers.

Uncharted, inFAMOUS, Killzone, Resistance, God of War, The Last of Us, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet & Clank, Jak and Daxter (please?) Sly Cooper, etc. I'd love to see all these games making new homes for themselves on PS4 while seeing new, fresh IPs join their family as well. Much better than something like "PlayStation Fit". Blegh.

daus26
daus26
8 years ago

I don't see anything wrong with this. There's almost no point in marketing big-specs to the consumer when most of them have no idea what it means.

To be fair, it said "main selling point." I don't see how that would automatically translate to "weak" console" focusing on "social features." Again, social features can be done along side a powerful machine, and focusing your marketing on social features is a smart thing. Hardcore gamers can understand the power of the system without the need of much marketing or explanation of the system's specs.

I'm pretty sure Microsoft will be aggressive on their social marketing as well, especially with their known mission of making the Xbox into an absolute living room entertainment console. Does that mean they're going weak for the hardcore gamers? Absolutely not.

Darwin1967
Darwin1967
8 years ago

i'm sure i'll be sitting back and letting the war commence as I observe from the sidelines. I get the feeling that these companies aren't listening to gamers or families (the largest consumer of these products). Be it the Wii-U with absurd controller that is a parent's worst nightmare for potential breakage or this incessant demand by manufacturers to block the use of used games. Honestly, I'm perplexed and don't like the current trend towards social media implementation, I truly just want a great system that provides superb graphics/gameplay…I want LONGER games that fully immerse the player and provide the escape and fun that video games are supposed to provide. Hopefully, these are just rumors or better yet, feelers….and we won't see these nightmares materialize.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
8 years ago

A question for 1 and all…

It seems certain that the next PlayStation for home use – whether PS4, Orbis, or whatever – will not be capable of playing PS3 games. In that case, if the new system is essentially a closed box PC, would you be willing to purchase an optional add on module that you plug into the PS4, that provides PS3 compatibility?

I mean, let's say that Sony puts out a low cost PC technology based box and calls it the next Playstation 4. To keep costs down, they're certainly not going to put the PS3 chipset inside it for compatibility. However a standard PCIe3 slot would be more than capable of playing host to a PS3 on a card expansion module.

Would you be interested in such an accessory? Would you pay $100 for it? Would you pay $150? I just remember some of the patents that Sony has been granted over the last few years included one for something that sounds exactly like a console on a card expansion for another system. There other patents that kind of indicate similar things, so it's not so outlandish to suggest this is possible. I don't know if it's even close to being on their agenda, but I'd buy one if they made one.

Temjin001
Temjin001
8 years ago

yes
100 bucks for ps3 and 50 extra for ps2

(typed from my shiney new Vita 😉

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
8 years ago

Yes because i got 30 ps3 games but if the last guardian came out for ps3 then i'd give my slim the honour of playing it….it deserves to!

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
8 years ago

I would.

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

I would, most definitely. I've always said so. I'd go for the "Deluxe version" with b/c if given the option.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
8 years ago

Grats on the Vita Temjin, I love mine.

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