It can be said that sequels only diminish the original creative idea. And when it comes to Quantic Dream's Heavy Rain , there should be no "diminishing."

At least, that's our take on the matter. When Develop asked studio boss David Cage about the possibility of a sequel to one of the generation's most important titles, Cage, replied- "I've said what I've had to say about it." After telling him he could probably make a lot of money with Heavy Rain 2 (to which Cage answered, "yep"), the Quantic Dream founder said:

"Let me be stupid for one second; I’m not in this business to make money. I wrote Heavy Rain because I was excited about it, because there was something to say. Yeah I could make Heavy Rain 2, but I’ve said what I’ve had to say about it. That’s the strength of Quantic Dream, to have the capacity to create new ideas, to make something that breaks ground.

I don’t know what to say. I guess I don’t have a long-term strategy for my career. It’s certainly not to make as much money as possible though. I see myself as an author, really. I just trust my instinct. I think fans of what I do want me to do that too."

Cage went on to say that he's an "old game creator" and that when designers reach his age, they're more worried about family things. Therefore, they start to think about the future and the fact that they need X amount of dollars to feel comfortable. But Cage says he just hasn't reached that stage yet, and he still believes he's "doing something important."

In short, Cage wants to be creative, again and again. And as amazing as a Heavy Rain sequel might be, it wouldn't be entirely fresh or innovative. …anybody else wondering what Quantic Dream is working on right now? It may not be Heavy Rain 2 , but Cage did say he'd make a similar storytelling effort if gamers responded to his first big risk.

Well, they responded. And that's why we're excited.

Related Game(s): Heavy Rain

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darxed
darxed
9 years ago

Well I'm excited too, but daaaamn…. I sure would have liked a Heavy Rain sequel…

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

love this guy! he's my favorite person in the industry. Heavy Rain is my 3rd favorite game of all time. can't wait to see what he does next.

Claire C
Claire C
9 years ago

Now I have to ask. What are your favorites?? o.O

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

my favorite game of all time is grand theft auto 3. it pretty much changed my life forever. its made me who i am today….. which might not be such a good thing xD metal gear solid 4 is my 2nd


Last edited by TheCanadianGuy on 9/28/2011 12:38:44 PM

Claire C
Claire C
9 years ago

nice ^^

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

And who are you today good sir?

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

a guy who started playing GTA when he was 12.

SoulController
SoulController
9 years ago

I respect that he doesn't want to make a sequel. He said what he had to say with that game & it nailed. Heavy Rain is art & when you try & force art, you come of dis honest & empty

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

"Let me be stupid for one second; I’m not in this business to make money. I wrote Heavy Rain because I was excited about it, because there was something to say. Yeah I could make Heavy Rain 2, but I’ve said what I’ve had to say about it. That’s the strength of Quantic Dream, to have the capacity to create new ideas, to make something that breaks ground.

I don’t know what to say. I guess I don’t have a long-term strategy for my career. It’s certainly not to make as much money as possible though. I see myself as an author, really. I just trust my instinct. I think fans of what I do want me to do that too."

^^ Wow. Just wow. ^^

DrRockso87
DrRockso87
9 years ago

I find it a little funny that David Cage says, "it's not about the money" when recently someone else in the company was complaining about used games sales. haha

Glad that wouldn't bother Cage then. I mean, even if 3 million people have played but only 2 million purchased, you still have 3 million people that enjoyed the experience, right?

I'll admit, I'm looking forward to his next project. Curious if it'll be another graphic-adventure or something different? Better yet. PS3 exclusive or multiplat? My money is on exclusive.

zork
zork
9 years ago

GRRR just another track game, like we have not seen enough of these type of games in the past, sounds like many of the games on the 3DO games console.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

…what?

Riku994
Riku994
9 years ago

I second that.
…You, Ben, not this guy.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Zork,
I don't follow….

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

It is better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

I have no idea what he means but if I did I assume I'd agree with it.
🙂

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Only problem is, playing devil's advocate can make you feel intelligent, but you never appear to be.

That's why I'm always honest about what I think. I don't provide people with insight just for the sake of a counter point. I might help someone flesh out their thoughts I don't agree with, but I would still say I disagree.

I would never pretend to side with something I don't side with. That would make me look dumber than I am.

Riku994
Riku994
9 years ago

I wish Square Enix still thought this way.

Claire C
Claire C
9 years ago

I'm getting tired of trilogies and franchises and endless sequels, so I like that he wants HR to remain sigular and move on to something fresh and original.

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

no game has ever gotten inside my head the way HR has. its been over a year sense i played it but even to this day i still have flashback of certain moments.

and sometimes when i'm at a mall just for the hell of it i'll shout out "JASON!" ( ok i made that last one up lol:)

if i live to be 100 years old i might forget my own name. but i will not forget Heavy Rain.


Last edited by TheCanadianGuy on 9/28/2011 12:45:29 PM

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

I love how some people used that "JASON!" thing as a way to criticize the game… Proof they didn't play much.

i mean…. it's a game of choice. I might have yelled for Jason maybe 3 times total. The critics are all 'X' button mashers. 😛


Last edited by Underdog15 on 9/28/2011 1:38:29 PM

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

i know. your certainly right there.

LegendaryWolfeh
LegendaryWolfeh
9 years ago

Press X to Jason! I pressed it many times, hated the few different ways he said it. Lol, my ONLY complaint with heavy rain…was the english voice actors..i just…ugh I didn't like them. But other than that, awsome.

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

yea i felt the same way. some of them were actually pretty good. scott. madison and carter blake were fine. but ethan was pretty bad & norman… ugh! terrible vo


Last edited by TheCanadianGuy on 9/28/2011 11:34:05 PM

Alienange
Alienange
9 years ago

I'd keep the name. You can tell new stories with new characters using the same franchise name.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Wouldn't make much sense though, unless there were copycat murders.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

"Heavy Rain" can be used as a name for several stories?
You are probably thinking of "Origami", World?

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Heavy rainfall is just as much of a motif in Heavy Rain as the origami. And that's not a spoiler. It's talked about at the very first crime scene of the game.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

The rain is the manner of death, it's pretty important.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

Ah that way, ok, then I understand what you mean.

I still think there are plenty room for more individual stories within that atmosphere though. Like that collection of Matrix short animation films (Animatrix). Individual stories within that same universe. Excellent collection btw.

slugga_status
slugga_status
9 years ago

I'm all for Cage wanting to remain creative. He blew me away with Heavy Rain. To be honest, I don't see how anybody could've wanted a direct sequel of the game. Way too many different paths and endings to narrow down one to continue to the next.

TheOldOne
TheOldOne
9 years ago

Cage, you ruled! I loved Heavy Rain and Indigo Prophesy too. Bring us another creative game of yours (even if you retract and still do a sequel it will be welcomed)!

burnedknight
burnedknight
9 years ago

I just played heavy rain like a month ago and i gotta say it was great. It was nice to see something fresh and unique. Glad to see someone who would rather do something new than sequel after sequel.

Whatever his next project is I'm sure it will be great

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

What the heck is your avatar?

SoulController
SoulController
9 years ago

World, its one of the enemies from Demon's Soul's

Claire C
Claire C
9 years ago

Yah World, what's the matter with you! XD

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

They are called 'Fat Official' by the way.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I rage quit that retarded game that's what the matter with me.

AshT
AshT
9 years ago

I'm excited for anything Cage brings, Heavy Rain is one of the best gaming experiences this generation

Danny007
Danny007
9 years ago

I really wish David would speak about his next game.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

An Author. Hell to the yeah.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
9 years ago

I love the sound of this guy.

burnedknight
burnedknight
9 years ago

@WorldEndsWithMe my avatar is the fat minister from demon souls

whatever cage's next project is if it as good as heavy rain was in storytelling i'll buy it

SmokeyPSD
SmokeyPSD
9 years ago

Too often, ever since the the late 70's sequels have been rampant for film. It hasn't even just been for film in recent history now either. Publisher's of books and now games. Hardly anyone anymore wants to really create something noteworthy and then have the strength to let it stand on it's own. I really respect Cage for being able to do this again. Not even great writers or filmmakers are having this capacity now.

Lairfan
Lairfan
9 years ago

A sequel only diminishes the original creative idea when you don't do it right.

With that said, the only reason I think people are asking for a sequel is because of that creepy guy in Madison's book-signing ending. And personally, I thought that such an obvious sequel tease really went counter to what Cage was trying to do, but hey, the guy is perfect so I guess I shouldn't be complaining here.

All joking aside, though, I just don't think a sequel would work for Heavy Rain. I mean, you wouldn't have Ethan in it (unless they completely rehash the whole "serial killer takes my son" thing), and there's just too many endings in Heavy Rain to make a definitive story to go off of in HR2. Plus, you really can't come up with a good name for a Heavy Rain sequel: Heavy Rain 2 and Heavier Rain just sound stupid, and Origami would not be a readily identifiable name.

Crabba
Crabba
9 years ago

Gotta love this guy's mindset, it's so fresh to see someone not just wanting to milk a franchise dry with sequels, but create something new and unique every time! Gotta respect that!

That said though, Heavy Rain would seriously deserve a sequel, and I for one would LOVE to see more games in this genre *REALLY* succeed, and unfortunately in this world that basically means it HAS to be a sequel! That's just the sad truth in the game world. Just look at the most successful games today (money wise) like Halo, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto… The first, and even second entries in the series were nowhere close to as successful as the later entries…

What Cage should do is utilize the great name recognition he has built with Heavy Rain, but he can still create something completely new and unique of the new game. He could even call it something like Heavy Storm, or Heavy Dumbbells for that matter, to show that it's still from the people who made Heavy Rain, but a brand new game as well!

Besides, even a "Heavy Rain 2" title could also be a completely new, fresh and unique game, just using the same name.

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

Well, he is awefully brave about it; i mean without money you can't really be creative effectively. Not having money does not stop you from being creative, but to get your creativity "out there", any sort of meaningful way takes resources.

Sure the internet has leveled the playing field quite a bit, but it still takes time and resources to make it "work". Its no use being a creative individual if it remains stuck in your head 🙂

I don't entirely agree with Cage, but I can understand where he is coming from…

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

Crabba
Crabba
9 years ago

exactly.

___________
___________
9 years ago

even more reason why $ony should gobble him up!
i wish he would do a sequel to heavy rain though, it was so unique, so fun, so gripping.
oh well, whatever just hurry up and announce your new IP!
and god help you if it takes as long as heavy rain did to release!

phelps1247
phelps1247
9 years ago

LA Noire has put the benchmark on what gaming should be like, such realism but heavy rain had such an emotional story and I think it'll be many years for that game to be forgotten