Great. This is just what we need; more incentive for developers to slack on single-player experiences.

According to an irritating new trend discussed at CNN , only 10% of gamers actually finish the games they purchase. So of course, the challenge is to produce a campaign that keeps the player entertained right up until the end. Unfortunately, Activision production contractor Keith Fuller had this to say:

"What I've been told as a blanket expectation is that 90 percent of players who start your game will never see the end of it unless they watch a clip on YouTube."

The 10% number comes from Raptr, an online service that tracks gaming trends and tendencies; one cited game that apparently supported the 10% claim was Rockstar's Red Dead Redemption . So why are fewer and fewer people finishing their games, even with shorter and shorter campaigns? It goes well beyond the multiplayer boom, although that's certainly a factor.

The average age of a gamer continues to climb, and the older we get, the less time we tend to have. But regardless of the reasons, the single-player experience is on the decline, and we have to accept that. Personally, I really hate having games in my collection I haven't completed but I'm sure I'm in the minority.

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Jdogtoocool
Jdogtoocool
9 years ago

I could go on about this topic all day but to make it quick here are some random thoughts floating around:
– there is way too much filler in gaming nowadays, yes I don't that going around completing missions and whatnot is what makes a game but there's a fine line between and I think it's not being respected anymore.
-Trophies… Games that do not support trophies just do not interest me anymore. I've tried going back countless times and tried to catch up on some games I had missed or just didn't have the time to play, and I just couldn't bring myself to finish them because trophies are like my fuel to continue gaming.

I have other thoughts but must stop here


Last edited by Jdogtoocool on 8/22/2011 9:16:29 PM

TrophyHunter
TrophyHunter
9 years ago

Same here, trophies are very important in a game for me, I can't even play a game without them. MGS4 is the only exception but would be much better with a trophies patch (I know, it will never happen)

Nas Is Like
Nas Is Like
9 years ago

Well I can already say that one of the reasons why I haven't finished certain games is that my brother finishes them before, so I basically see what happens without having to play it.

Other reasons include me losing interest or can't get past a difficult part/s of the game.

Riku994
Riku994
9 years ago

I really try to finish my games, but some are just… bad 😛

godsman
godsman
9 years ago

-Some games were good in the beginning and eventually went horrible in the middle.

-Some games were just TOO good and I can't finish because that means the end.

5th day without PS3

Qwarktast1c
Qwarktast1c
9 years ago

for the lesser titles, its hard to find the time anymore

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Oh, I totally dislike having games I haven't finished as well. In fact, for many of my games I don't feel like I've really played them until I've played them twice. RPG's are the exception to that rule, but for action games, it's requisite.
With my responsibilities widening as an adult with a growing family and priorities, I'm finding getting solid game time in is becoming quite difficult. Anymore, getting a good hour or two in at night of gaming would be a generous helping of entertainment.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

I'm the same way. For me, a major way I budget how much I spend on games is that I don't buy another until I finish what I'm on. Exceptions only when I find a really great deal on a game that will pass. Got Fallout 3 brand new for 9.99. Had to pick that up, obviously. But I still haven't touched it. I -promise- I will, but I just haven't had the chance yet!

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

Quite interesting, and not that surprising. A game really has to be engaging all the way to keep people's attention spans.

Let us now forget online play. Some people will by CoD or BF3 to simply play online, and may not even touch the single player campaign… therefore they are likely never to see the ending to a game. When you think of how popular shooters, they probably make up 75% of that 90% statistic who do not finish all the games they buy, especially if the majority are online based.

Then you have the difficult games like Demon Souls etc. I think you have to have time and patience to get through games. Catherine was reportedly pretty difficult to complete as well. How many people will finish Skyrim with 100+ hours of gameplay?

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

tes37
tes37
9 years ago

I complete the majority of my games. Certain titles take me longer because they're not as engrossing as others.

If 10% complete 100% of the games in their library, then I'm not in that 10%.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
9 years ago

You're a man of variety, I enjoy stalking…I mean looking at what you're currently playing.

tes37
tes37
9 years ago

I look and see what people are playing as well. I wouldn't call that stalking, but I can make exceptions for my psn friends and call you a stalker if you like. I noticed you were playing RDR and long overdue, like the lynching your friend should get for holding it for so long.

fatelementality
fatelementality
9 years ago

List of games I have never finished but still own is as follows. Maybe u guys can help me out here by telling me which is most worth my time:

Batman: Vengeance
Batman: Rise of Sin Tsu
Call of Cthulhu
Deus Ex 2 – (Working on Now 4 obvious reasons)
Silent Hill 4 (Sad, I know. Never even touched 3)

My main excuse now is incredibly long load times. Call of Cthulhu is by far the worst for this. It is also a very 'trial & error' ish game. I am 30, but I can still hang w the best of them. I don't do easy mode yet at least 🙂

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I put Cthulhu on easy to beat it, that game is HARD and takes dedication but I love it.

dmiitrie
dmiitrie
9 years ago

How right you are about that, World. I remember being as mad as I've ever been at a game after I finally beat that excruciatingly frustrating game only to unlock………a new (and harder) difficulty level.

Vivi_Gamer
Vivi_Gamer
9 years ago

Oh, play Silent Hill 1 again, then play Silent Hill 3 trust me, you wont regret it. Silent Hill 4: The Room, while a bit different, is worth your time, dont bother with Origins or Homecoming or anything after that, as the series foundators Team Silent have not been involved and its been all downhill since.

clockwyzebkny
clockwyzebkny
9 years ago

This is true. I purchase and play a lot of great games witjout finishing a lot of them. I dont want to get stoned (drug related or otherwise)but I never completed Batman AA, Infamous 1 or 2(i left 2 in another state during vacation), L.A. Noire, Heavenly Sword, etc
I may be getting to old The thing is I LOVE these games but it seems like I lose a little interest after awhile 🙁

clockwyzebkny
clockwyzebkny
9 years ago

Why cant I save my profile changes? Im using the 7 inch galaxy tab. My ps3 browser gives me problems

DazeOfWar
DazeOfWar
9 years ago

I have a crap load of unfinished games in my library. A lot of them I haven't even started yet though. I'll get to them some day.

For me if something really pulls me in I'll finish it right away but some games I tend to get burnt out on and then come back to them later.

Crabba
Crabba
9 years ago

I finish basically all games I start playing, unless it's exceptionally bad, which is rare because I really only play the best games out there in the first place. Great games like most of the PS3 exclusives I've finished twice already.

That said, I have WAY TOO many games I still haven't had time to play yet, including games I've only tried once to see that it works or just to see what it looks like, and now waiting in the pipeline for an open time slot some time in the future… My backlog is just getting bigger and bigger by the month, sigh :p

Crabba
Crabba
9 years ago

So just to add a point to this, that I might actually add to the "low finish" percentage on some games even though I actually finish almost all of them when I actually get around to it…

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
9 years ago

I'm currently playing through Red Dead for the first time. I'm at 67% and so far I've put in 28hrs. I can't imagine someone not finishing this game, it's amazing. The story and acting matches any great Western.

Not sure why someone would invest in a game without seeing it through to the end. I can gladly say I've only done that a few times and with games that deserved it (Dark Void) hell I hated RE5 but I at least finished it.

fatelementality
fatelementality
9 years ago

Alright, time to run from these zombies. Ok, I have to take a few steps first to turn & face away. Oh crap, he bit my neck…….how did he do that? Well it's high time to raise my weapon and take aim. Oh God, my arm is missing……you little bastard ass! That's it, time to align my laser sight on this dude's face before………Oh no, there's 50 of them and a guy with a chainsaw. Wait……where are my liver and kidneys? That's it, now I'm really……………..


Last edited by fatelementality on 8/22/2011 10:21:58 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I didn't finish RDR, it was getting boring and then I accidentally spoiled the ending by reading about it so I just gave up because there was nothing to look forward to.

tes37
tes37
9 years ago

Dark Void, so far, is pretty easy to put down. I've been going back and forth with that game and Brutal Legend. I hope Dark Void doesn't get any worse. I plan on finishing it one day hopefully, but I haven't been playing too much lately. I've been spending money and time on another hobby of mine.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I blasted right through Dark Void, it has a decent ending.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

The only ones I haven't finished are the few where I've gotten stuck at a certain stage.

But I've found that if I'm stumped, it's just better for me to walk away from it awhile & come back later to a whole new refreshed view of the situation, and that's when I usually wind up with that "AHA-Eureka" moment.
(but after 100 tries over a years time, I still haven't been able to crack that quarry dump truck's frigging windshield yet in the 1st Kane & Lynch game).
But I WILL keep going back occasionally and plug away at that biatch.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

After I finally did that dump truck thing I gave up on the game. I decided that was the biggest challenge any game could ever give me and once I did it I would never require a serious challenge ever again. I also decided that Kane and Lynch wasn't worth the aggravation of finishing.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

World, until the dump truck, I actually liked the game & Lynch's overly-demented psychopath character.

That windshield's also been really frustrating too just because I also have K&L:Dog Days & I won't even attempt to try that one out till I've beaten K&L:Dead Men first. So now K&L2 winds up continually staying-put in my massive backlog GRRRRR!


Last edited by BikerSaint on 8/23/2011 12:00:08 AM

matt99
matt99
9 years ago

I'd say I complete 90% of the games I play, and the 10% are the games that had no story and terrible gameplay. I'll even finish a mediocre game with a half intriguing story. Anyway, assuming this statistic is accurate (90% seems a little high), I would tell developers this, have a story worth seeing the end of and gamers will complete it.

Although RDR had a great story so maybe I'm wrong…

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Developers may want you to finish their game but their overlords don't care, they just want you to buy it.

I try to finish all of them but now and then something happens and I can't. I've had Folklore since 2008 and I'm stuck in the same fight. I love that game to death and it pains me that I'll never beat it.

The internet is a bigger part of gaming now more than ever, and I don't mean multiplayer, I mean if you read sites you will catch spoilers and then that ruins the whole game for me. It was hard to finish L.A. Noire after it was spoiled and RDR I just quit.

Some games there isn't any real point to finishing them, I'm still not done with Oblivion because the main quest doesn't interest me at all. Once I opened up the world I just made a whole way of life inside the game and ignored the story…whatever it was about.

Then there are the games that drag on that I have to force myself to finish and sometimes fall short of that. I don't know if I can finish Vanquish, Bayonetta was painful enough to push through.

I feel like the game should give me a good enough reason to keep playing.

tes37
tes37
9 years ago

I entered a painting in Folklore and was overwhelmed by the enemies, but couldn't get out so I stopped playing. That was one of the rare moments when a game save screwed me.

Radiohead
Radiohead
9 years ago

I didn't finish chrono trigger or ff13.

dmiitrie
dmiitrie
9 years ago

Chrono Trigger is definitely worth finishing.

AcidReign91
AcidReign91
9 years ago

I havn't finished a ton of games that I have (Red Dead Redemption, FFXII, Dragon Age Origins to name a few). But the main reason is because I don't have that much time to devote to playing video games anymore. Life and school get in the way and that's not necessarily a bad thing.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

No not bad at all, most of us have gone through long periods of hardly gaming at all. The games will be there when life slows down.

TrophyHunter
TrophyHunter
9 years ago

I know what it feels Acid, my wife, my son and my job let me just a couple hours for gaming every day

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
9 years ago

I have a buddy on my friends list and he has over 20 game titles and not a single gold trophy. I think he is… well I'm not going their.

sirbob6
sirbob6
9 years ago

I force myself to finish every game. If I don't I feel like I wasted money, even if they are gifts. The only game this gen I have yet to finish is 3D Dot Hero Game, and that's just because I never got round to it.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

aaagh I never finished that either. Got pissed at the Fire Temple and started another game. Never managed to get back to it.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

I got the platinum for that game. It's really satisfying to beat it on spelunker mode. (You die in 1 hit)

As for that fire temple, it's confusing at first, but really, it's a giant linear path that criss-crosses itself.

The boss in the fire temple is the toughest, though, in my opinion. If you can beat him, you won't have any trouble with the boss. Especially if you get the best shield.

Nerull
Nerull
9 years ago

Firstly, trophies can't really have much of a downside since they probably take 15 minutes to come up with at the end of devving but they don't fuel me at all.
I've got 2 platinums but little bronze, silver, and gold stars are not incentive for some people past a certain age.
Secondly I finish 95% of the games I buy which is most of the ones I play since I don't like renting for the aforementioned lack of time away from work.
As tech in both the gaming and practical realms continue to improve the worker bees continue to have less time to enjoy the benefits.
Must …keep up with ..the.. Joneses.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

I disagree with the statement, "past a certain age".

I think age has absolutely nothing to do with it. For me and my friends, (all anywhere between 22-47) we enjoy being neck-and-neck with each other. We're all at level 12 now for overall trophy rank. Trophies are a great mark to reach for. I don't have a ton of them either, but I am at 12 platinums now. Let me tell you, when you platinum FFXIII, it's a good feeling. I can only imagine how great a feeling it would be to platinum Demon Souls, like my one friend has.

Basically, it has more to do with your personality type. I'm a completionist, and I always have been. Even before trophies, if it was a Final Fantasy, I had to get -everything-. If it was Zelda, you can bet I didn't rest until I had all the hearts I could possibly muster. Even playing Super Mario, I had way more fun playing every level as opposed to warping to the final boss.

Age has nothing to do with it. I'm a completionist. Trophies are a great indicator of a 100% complete game.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

He's equating trophies with the stars we get on our work in Kindergarten. It would be a fair comparison if it wasn't actually really HARD to get some of those "stars".

Danny007
Danny007
9 years ago

I just can't find many games that I fell deserve to be finished. The single player quality is lacking in most recent games. There less fun and to me that's disappointing because I enjoy the single player experience more that the multiplayer experience.

dmiitrie
dmiitrie
9 years ago

I wish I could say I don't finish games. As I've gotten older ive found that my hobby as shifted from playing video games to buying video games. I got both my PS3 and a new laptop last Christmas, and since then, I've bought almost 20 games between the two, but have only even started maybe half a dozen of them.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

Haha that's me too. I can have new games sitting on my shelf for many months, still with the wrapping plastic intact. Like right now, I have *still* not started on LBP2 for example. It's still unwrapped.

This is why I try to avoid buying at full price, chances are good that it's dropped to half the price before I get around to actually play it.


Last edited by Beamboom on 8/23/2011 1:56:46 AM

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

I'm a natural collector with games too. I've gotten into a good groove, though. Now I have about 3 unplayed games on my shelf. I have something like 15 games I -WANT- to buy, like Catherine, inFamous 2, LBP2, etc., but I refuse to buy anything until one of the 3 unfinished ones have been defeated.

It actually works out, because I do eventually get the games I want, and it usually ends up being much cheaper, too.

CrusaderForever
CrusaderForever
9 years ago

I am in this camp as well. I bought Mortal Kombat and inFAMOUS 2 D1P! I just played Mortal Kombat 2 days ago for the first time and I am yet to play inFAMOUS 2. Just been so busy trying to plat certain games that it consumes your playing time. Then before you know it a dream game like Deus Ex HR comes out and will pull me away from playing I2 for a much longer time.

RobiinzZ
RobiinzZ
9 years ago

I doubt this is true

I hate starting a new game unless I've completed the last one (depending on the game).

Also, red dead redemption is a very long game so its a bit unfair using that as an example.

I mean, it took me a year before i got round to completing GTA4.