Some firmware updates are boring. Others are pretty cool.

The latest, firmware update 3.70 for the PlayStation 3, falls into the latter category. Firstly, it adds the option to automate two existing features:

A new auto upload function for online save data back-up will be added to make it easier to back-up your game save data. Under (Game), select the game for which you want to automatically upload saved data, and then press the Triangle button.

Also, Trophies will now sync automatically at the timing of Auto Download.

Plus, they're tossing in a new recommendation function that lets you share your favorite PlayStation Store items (like games and videos) with your PSN friends. Basically, you'll be able to send a message with a store link embedded. A new category on the XMB called TV/Video Services will show up (for Netflix, Hulu PLUS, and VUDU), along with the following:

You’ll be able to find and download all of the video applications available on PS3 directly from this new XMB category.

A folder labeled “My Channels” within this category will allow you to easily access your downloaded applications.

Any videos downloaded from the PlayStation store will continue to be placed in the existing Video category on the XMB.

There are also a few new features for Blu-Ray and 3D viewing, so stay tuned for the 3.70 update, which should become available "soon." You know, can anyone even remember the XMB and the overall presentation of the PS3 when it first launched? Is it even possible to summarize every last update and new feature?

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LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
9 years ago

Glad to be a PLUS member. I look forward to using the cloud save feature, don't really care about the Trophy update.

BTW anyone else think the PSN will transfer to a paid service with the PS4? As more and more features get implemented via firmware updates that require a plus membership I'm starting to think it's a slow and steady path.

MyWorstNightmar
MyWorstNightmar
9 years ago

You certainly might be on to something. I think it depends on how successful PS Plus is and continues to be. I really hope they continue with free online and paid premium services.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

No chance at all.

Ignitus
Ignitus
9 years ago

LV, I think you are right. I also have the feeling when the PS4 time arrives, PSN will have a price for all of us.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

You guys are nuts, there would sooner be a charge for PC gaming online.

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

I hope not, I like my gaming online free.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

I'm with World. They pride themselves on free access. It'll remain that way. Free to play, pay for premium service.

Maybe there might be tiers… but I'm sure something like a PSN "Basic" would still be free.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

I think you're more likely to see cloud saves become standard as part of the 'free' PSN to support the PSV ability to perform cloud based game saves, but that will be the barebones cloud based save feature with no automation on the PS3 side, and I would think that Plus users will get more space compared to the basic users. So for example, we have 150MB right now, I could see Sony offering up to 100MB of cloud based save space to basic (free) users in support of the Vita, but Plus subscribers would get more space, perhaps 300MB, as well as more advanced features such as the automated synchronization of cloud saves.

As someone said further up Sony prides themselves on the Free aspect of this, and as long as they can differentiate the free capability from the premium, people will pay for Plus. If Plus members have more space and automation, it'd be worth it to me, even if there was a more limited, but free cloud based save capability.

Qwarktast1c
Qwarktast1c
9 years ago

i wish they would make more visualizers for the music. and also better sorting of music too. it gets old surfing thru the really long list of artists and albums…

JMO_INDY
JMO_INDY
9 years ago

An iTunes like grid design would be lovely.

Qwarktast1c
Qwarktast1c
9 years ago

exactly! they should have it like the photos menu

where it is a list of artists, the when you click on the artists, it goes into grid form with the albums, and then back to a list form for songs

Wraith
Wraith
9 years ago

I'm glad this update adds functionality, unlike the previous few. Auto trophy-sync is a great feature to add!

Danny007
Danny007
9 years ago

I hate waiting for my trophies to update especially when I'm undating during a game. I love update 3.70

Mamills
Mamills
9 years ago

about time

Guess its a start but still Sony is really moving too slow.

there is so much that can still be done.
and i swear sometimes i wonder if they even care.

just some examples:
-Cross Game chat
-a proper browser. (The PS3 Browser is such a POS! Make a deal with Mozilla for firefox or something!)
-Ability to check emails etc.
-Use proper facebook integration(Search FB Friends to add to PSN List, i really dont care about sharing achievements.)
-record and send voice clips to friends
-create an app section in the PSN Store. (That will open up a lot of possibilities, youtube etc etc)
-Optimize the XMB, sorry but the game overlay is still slow and sometimes crashes
-All games on the PSN Store should have manditory Videos or photos of the game in action that plays automatically. (look at Steam, or the app store.) half the Games on PSN i know nothing about them, why would i buy?
-more deal days, cheaper introductory price for games. (Developers are making more and more DLC anyway. in the end it makes more money. Look at League of legends.)
-wtf they need more digital copies of games.(i love having a disc but from a business standpoint digital is the way to go and it will, so get on board.)

-the list goes on

now i know a lot would say some of those ideas aren't relevant to gaming, but lets face it. it would make the PS3 a must own system, i mean cmon what to you think would happen if and when apple enters the gaming arena?

they need to start thinking ahead.

hire a dedicated team to optimize.

matter of fact hire me


Last edited by Mamills on 8/9/2011 10:20:59 PM

LegendaryWolfeh
LegendaryWolfeh
9 years ago

Hate to say it but I just think there will be no way XGC will be coming to the PS3, the amount of space taken by the xmb will somehow have to be cut and more to make it work, just don't think sony is up to redoing the whole thing.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

I think cross game chat is the most over requested feature. Is it really that great to make first in list for requests?

Also, a reason Sony's browser isn't the best is because of Adobe's Flash presence in the market. Don't worry though, in time Flash will be pushed out in favor for the more open and flexible HTML 5 standard. You can thank Steve Jobs for that later. There's people who hate that move by apple, but once everything boils over it'll be better that a middle man isn't there to screw things up like flash does with HTML.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Cross Game chat needs to be in there just to put an end to the discussion. I think it must be somehow impossible on PS3.

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

i believe legend is correct. we aren't going to see cross game chat on the ps3. what's odd about that is the vita will have it, but sony's flagship system won't. temjin is correct. this feature is easily the most requested item on the psblog. it's been requested over 3 million times.
i am beginning to think there is some technical challenge that sony can't overcome to add this feature. i have heard that psn simply does not have the bandwidth for xgc. i've seen some evidence to support this in kz3. get a full squad with headsets and the audio cuts out horribly. heck it starts to cut out at 5 people with headsets.

sony could dramaticly improve the quality of the ps3 experience if they fixed the crappy browser and added cross game chat. i know several gamers that won't even touch a ps3 becuase it does not have xgc.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

Mamills –

I check my email all the time from the PS3 web browser. Perhaps you haven't tried?

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

@World
You are correct. It's pretty much impossible. To implement it now, you would essentially have to have updates to every single game released to allow that function. I can't remember all the details, but Highlander described the full reasoning to me a while back, and I remember it making perfect sense. lol

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Cross game chat is extremely unlikely to happen for PS3 because it's not in the firmware right now.

The firmware as it stands uses about 48MB (IIRC – though it may be smaller now) of system memory at all times. Sony has worked consistently to reduce that footprint and leave more memory for games. In order to add Cross game chat, a fairly decent sized module would be required. It would have to be part of the resident portion of the OS, since it has to work regardless of whether a game has it's own chat feature. Adding a large module to provide something like Cross Game chat would either break the memory limitation on the resident portion of the OS. Games have been implemented that use the full available memory, and so that cannot happen. Therefore Sony would have to kick out other portions of the resident OS to accommodate Cross Game Chat. Since Sony already has pared the resident OS down to minimize the memory footprint, there isn't exactly any fat to trim to make room for Cross Game Chat. So to do it, some other existing feature would have to be dropped from the resident portion of the PS3 OS.

All in all, that's not going to happen. Cross game chat has been implemented from the beginning on the Vita, and had it been implemented from the beginning on the PS3, this wouldn't be an issue. But trying to shoe-horn such functionality into it now is not particularly feasible. It's not impossible, just extremely unlikely.

mike rlz
mike rlz
9 years ago

so………… it CAN'T do everything. 🙂

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I guess it can't Mike, next time round itll do everything.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

More junk. So, how much longer until Sony Exclusives copy protect their saves to force people to pay for Cloud on PLUS?

Mamills
Mamills
9 years ago

i know, sorry but PSN Plus is really not worth it. go on steam u get most of Plus's features for free. its expected.
they really need to revamp the PSN interface Bigtime

LegendaryWolfeh
LegendaryWolfeh
9 years ago

So you get free games on steam every month? Come on guys, even if they aren't the best of games, you're getting a free game ranging between 5$-15$ as well as mini's and a ps1 game every month. The little features in my mind are just extra. The discounts and more just add to it as well. The only thing Steam does that is incredible, is their daily steam sales that is for anybody, it's the best for sure! lol

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
9 years ago

Legendary I love your cute smile but Steam does far more than offer great gaming deals.

Being able to go from computer to computer and not worry about my saves or game content is great. Being able to chat with dozens of friends while gaming is great too.

Ignitus
Ignitus
9 years ago

Probably, by the Fall period all the games will have their respective save files copy protected. 🙁

Imagine what would happen if your HDD goes bad. SONY knows this and will take advantage to cash it.

I don't know about recent SONY games but I remember KZ2 was copy protected.

JimmyVaudeville
JimmyVaudeville
9 years ago

In regards to the original presentation, I still prefer the original (longer orchestra) boot sound

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

The auto save Back up feature is quite cool. I'm not a PLUS member, but features like that make it more compelling.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Okay, I missed one point. The auto Trophy updates are EXCLUSIVE to PLUS members?

Lame

Highlightreel
Highlightreel
9 years ago

Ok, rube question here regarding the Cloud feature. If I am a plus member and have a ps3 at home and another one at another location, can I play a game at one place, save to the 'cloud' then go to the other location (with disc), turn on that ps3, log in to the same user name and continue from that save?

I travel a lot (MN to IA) and when in IA I'd like to play but would not like to have to start over or have a separate game save. I'd purchase a second ps3 if that was possible (pretending the ps4 isn't secretly coming soon to piss my wife off). IA is boring!

Stay classy PSX…

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Minnesota represent.

gray_eagle
gray_eagle
9 years ago

i belive you should be able to as long as your using the same PSN ID that you created the save on

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

If the save is locked, you have to wait 24 hours. If not, apparently you have unlimited access, but you will of course have to use the Plus-enabled profile unless the game allows copying saves to other profiles.

Highlightreel
Highlightreel
9 years ago

Thanks for the responses!


Last edited by Highlightreel on 8/10/2011 9:38:31 AM

johnld
johnld
9 years ago

yeah, you need to wait 24 hours after saving it to cloud to access it. then another 24 hours after you download it.

Amnesiac
Amnesiac
9 years ago

Hello. I recently stumbled onto this site and the discussion on hand has really caught my attention enough to become a member and post a response.
– The whole psn network is in disrepair. What discourages me is how a few minor improvements to their site as well as some useful software updates could rapidly change alot of opinions. The best ideas were the ones mentioned above:

having control with naming folders in the XMB
Music visualizers/ album artwork
better internet browser
game previews in the ps store*
(would be awesome) Heres a few of mine:

I want the ability to take in-game pictures that I could then throw up on my XMB background. (After playing FFXIII, HeavyRain, or MGS4 I still wonder why there isn't any option for this) Wouldn't that be something a game developer would want to put in their game?

Give us the ability to download any game I want into my system [Game Data Utility] I can't stomach some of those unnecessary load times in those titles where it isn't "required"

As mentioned above small additions like these would make a world of difference to the playstation community and the outlook of the PS3 as a whole.

So I suppose we'll have to wait till PS4 huh?

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

The whole PSN is in disrepair? Sorry, you're going to have to back that up with examples of things that are broken and not repaired.

Peripheral features that are tertiary at best such as folder naming, music visualizers and such are not signs of disrepair, they are a sign that people are so desperate to find fault that they will look at the smallest things.

You can take in-game pictures in numerous games, and they are stored to the HDD and displayable as your XMB wall-paper. not sure where you've been the last three years, but you can do that in lots of games.

You're not going to get the ability to download complete game images to the HDD, so let's not even go there, security means it ain't gonna happen for games that are already on Bluray.

Small additions like these would only make a world of difference if your world is so small that the curvature on the visible horizon exceeds 179 degrees.

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

Embed your album artwork in the mp3 and they'll show on the XMB. There are plenty of apps to do it.

There are game previews.

The browser IS a P.O.S.


Last edited by Fane1024 on 8/10/2011 6:43:06 AM

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

Welcome here. This place is excellent.

Pleasantries aside, the PSN is far from being in disrepair. I am running some remote races on GT5 from work right now. Yep, still working.

Outside of what Highlander said, the screen shot feature is in place. It's up to the developers to implement it. The fact that MGS or Heavy Rain doesn't use it is not Sony's fault. For example, I have tons of in game photos from GT5 in my picture folder that I use for XMB backgrounds.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

I dunno what problems you're having, Amnesiac, but in regards to the ideas you felt were good ones…

You -CAN- name the folders in your XMB. I have all my PSN games sorted by genre. Action/Adventure games can be found in my Action/Adventure folder.

All my music has album artwork. You can even upload your own picture for album artwork if you, say, have a mixed playlist.

Most games in the PSN store have previews. Not all, but that's due to the developers. Not PSN.

Better browser? Well… yeah. I 100% agree with that one. It definitely needs a better browser.

As for the other two ideas you offered… they might be cool. I couldn't care less about either, personally. But they would be nice. Either way, however, that hardly classifies PSN or the XMB as being in 'disrepair'.

Don't you agree?

thj_1980
thj_1980
9 years ago

Still waiting for the cross game chat and custom soundtrack for every game here!!!!

I hope they add the cross game chat to every plus member then i'll be a member instantly!!!!!

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

Same.

2 Great features that everyone wants, and yet Sony STILL haven't delivered!! Party Chat is the best thing about playing on 360 with friends. Doesn't matter what game you're playing or whether or not you're in the same lobby, you can all chat and organize a game together.

If Sony make Party Chat free with online play in their next update, Christmas will have come early for me.

Shame, all my friends love PS3 games, but they only play their 360's just so they can chat to each other while online. Sony has lost so many sales because this one feature IS STILL missing!! Yes, we demanded Party chat or X-game chat about 3 years ago… WHERE IS IT?!?!?

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

@dancemachine

absolutely agree on xgc. not having that feature has cost sony more sales than people know.
i am beginning to think it is impossible on the ps3. strrangely the vita will have it.

johnld
johnld
9 years ago

if cross game chat is a deal breaker for people then they need to remember why they play videogames in the first place or get the hell out. i can live without cross game chat in my game because when i play, i rather be lost in the game or talk with people in the same game.

gray_eagle
gray_eagle
9 years ago

folder naming? we can already do that.

displaying album art work, we can do that. do a picture search on google
for a picture of the album you want.

when it comes to visuals when playing music, thats the only thing
the 360 has over the ps3, better visuals.

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

Q Games (who made the visualizations IIRC) is busy making the Pixel Junk games.

Better use of their time, I'd say.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

Cross Game Chat and Party Chat?

C'mon Sony, this is awesome and all, but you need to at least have the basics down before you start bringing in the fancy stuff!!

Only reason, yes, THE ONLY reason my friends still game on 360 and not on PS3 is BECAUSE of 360's party chat feature and the fact that MS packed a wired headset in with every 360!!

I know PS3 is the better console with the better games, but MS pioneered and dominated online gaming and multiplayer!!!

Sony is catching up with Vita, and that's a great start, but the PS3 going this long without X-game chat or party chat?!?!? It's been nearly 5 years now!!! I just want to play online with my friends for free!! AND I wanna play great games online with my friends for free!!

Do Sony have any idea how many sales they are losing from the absence of this one feature?!?! How hard can it be to implement?!?!

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Here it is. The big one. Are you ready? You aren't ready. Yes, like the xbox Live guys I will pay for this:

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE MY PSN NAME!!!!