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Gamers Unimpressed By Graphics In Resistance 3

Resistance 3 has gone gold and we're excited.

And while you will find staunch defenders of the game's potential, it isn't difficult to locate the naysayers, who have leaped all over the game's "lacking" graphics. Many will point towards the available media and make immediate comparisons to the current shooters; Killzone 3 and Crysis 2 are often cited, and the upcoming Battlefield 3 and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 have wowed gamers with intense videos and previews. It also doesn't help that rumors concerning sub-HD visuals in Resistance 3 are starting to circulate.

The bottom line is that there appears to be a lot of skepticism concerning the visual presentation in Resistance 3 ; specifically, that it can't measure up to the stiff competition. Many will say it was fine several years back, but considering the graphical leaps we've made since then, some say it's disappointing to see Resistance 3 falter. But is it a matter of a less accomplished graphical display, or is it simply a different design style? Is it more about atmosphere and a certain artistic flair rather than straight-up authentic military grit? Maybe it's just a perspective issue.

But either way, it may prove to be a problem. When it comes to the FPS genre, graphics really seem to take center-stage in arguments and discussions. And thus far, a great many gamers are saying that Resistance 3 lags behind. We'll be testing out the beta this week (expect our impressions soon) but in the meantime, we can easily make this observation. Everywhere you go is another gamer going, "meh, it doesn't look great." Is this is legitimate, troublesome issue, or are people just whining for no reason?

Related Game(s): Resistance 3

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Fox hounder
Fox hounder
12 years ago

I'd say people are just whining, graphics are important, but there not as important as some gamers this gen make them out to be. I wish more developers would spend less time programming their engines and spend more time (and money) writing a good story. Anyway, i'm sure Resistance 3 will be great, it's made by insomniac after all


Last edited by Fox hounder on 8/4/2011 9:55:48 PM

Qubex
Qubex
12 years ago

Up to a point, the problem is we are now in a world where even basic interaction with a UI has visual wizardry to it thanks to Apple and the like making devices more and more "attractive to use".

…and more importantly… let us not forget the "enormous" pressure… and I don't say "enormous" lightly, of the huge impact PC graphic fidelity is having on the current generation of games…

Like many an industry, a watershed moment in our industry will be the release of Battlefield 3. It will look so good, so photo realistic on a PC that that will no doubt up the pressure on games generally looking as good on current consoles. No matter how much we may deny it, we are lagging behind the PC, and this is adding pressure to developers.

People want to live and breath a world that looks real. Combine what you saw in Avatar and the top AAA PC games coming out and you have enormous pressure for developers to get hardware to perform at similar levels across the board.

Well we know we need to wait for the PS4 to start getting to the visuals we would expect today and then some, especially if you then want the tech to last an additional 5 years after its release… and still look good.

The console makers have the work cut out for them I think…

Regarding Resistance 3, to be hones, reviewing the Now Playing Resistance demo, I thought the Co-Op player campaign looked very good. I was quite impressed with the visuals if I may say so…

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"


Last edited by Qubex on 8/4/2011 11:42:52 PM

Fox hounder
Fox hounder
12 years ago

Your right, but the thing about Battlefield 3 is while it will have the best visual's to date, it won't do anything to innovate first person shooters in general, it will be the same tired gameplay mechanics we have come to love or hate. With the exception of a few games, we haven't seen too many innovative or defining games this generation. If the next gen consoles are just going to offer the same experiences with better graphics, (not to mention higher retail prices, thanks to higher production cost) i'll be sitting the next gen out. At this point i'm way more interested in the PSVitia & 3DS, alot of my favorite games this gen are on psp and ds.

Qubex
Qubex
12 years ago

Fair enough Hounder, that was a good point. Its not always graphics we are looking for but innovative gameplay…

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"


Last edited by Qubex on 8/5/2011 9:09:58 AM

Fox hounder
Fox hounder
12 years ago

Right, and to add to what i said before, i can certainly see why people would buy a ps4, xbox 720, or wii u because of the increase in graphical power, and i certainly won't try denying them that, for me personally though there just has to be more than that.

PANICinc
PANICinc
12 years ago

If people are basing their opinion off the BETA, well then, they are idiots! The BETA is not a representation of the finished product. It is a TEST of the engine and gameplay mechanics. I LOVE the look so far. It's actually bright with a full palette!
And if they are going off some number they read somewhere, well, whatever. Go play COD with it's GREY color scheme in HD. Regardless of the #'s, it's still lacking in overall ocular pleasure!

jlch777
jlch777
12 years ago

According to Digitalfoundry the preview code runs at 960×704 with qaa.

Claire C
Claire C
12 years ago

Is that good?? Lol

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
12 years ago

No. It's actually a lower resolution than Resistance: Fall of Man ran at :/

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

Well that's horsesh*t then.

kevinater321
kevinater321
12 years ago

Resistance had bland textures though, so it could be the case because resistance 3 has much higher detailed environments.

Claire C
Claire C
12 years ago

I think the visuals of the single player in the videos I've seen is impressive enough, which is what I'm interested in when it comes to R3.

If I were to buy only one fps this winter it'd probably be Rage though.


Last edited by Claire C on 8/4/2011 10:00:05 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

I dunno, they were bad in the demo and don't look so great in the vids, but that's weird because Resistance 2 still looks great. I think graphics aren't always that important but they are very important with an FPS because the visual presentation is a big part of the experience since the gameplay and narrative is always simplistic.

The fact is though, a AAA exclusive pretty much HAS to look better than multiplats because it needs to play to the strengths of that one console and be held to a different standard.

LegendaryWolfeh
LegendaryWolfeh
12 years ago

Didn't they say the demo was quite an old build actually?

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

They did say it was an old build, but I doubt it was "quite" that old. They still released it, so that tells ya somethin'


Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 8/5/2011 12:51:09 AM

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
12 years ago

Since when is multiplayer graphics the standard for measuring graphics?

There are very FEW that can boast impressive visuals for the online feature.

Plus, I played the game last night, and if you or anyone out there reading this can accept COD and the recent BF games, it's fine. Plus, it still looks better than Halo.

So whats the problem?

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

Where'd you get R3 Max?

Nas Is Like
Nas Is Like
12 years ago

I just saw the Resistance 3 E3 demo. And I thought the graphics were excellent.

Those that are unimpressed are either lying, blatantly hating or had unrealistic expectations.

Kevin555
Kevin555
12 years ago

"Those that are unimpressed are either lying, blatantly hating or had unrealistic expectations"

Or maybe, & you won't believe this, but just maybe people have varied opinions?

Your comment is adorable, I find it more unrealistic to believe we could be getting sub HD graphics in 2011 from a PS3 exclusive.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
12 years ago

Kevin, pretty sure that CoD is also sub-HD… just sayin'

Beamboom
Beamboom
12 years ago

After Crysis2 (who to me personally is the best looking and working shooter I've played so far) one should be allowed have high expectations and even demands, especially from a game with tailor made code to that particular hardware.


Last edited by Beamboom on 8/5/2011 3:01:49 AM

Kevin555
Kevin555
12 years ago

@Lawless,

Now i could be wrong here, but i am pretty sure this has nothing to do with CoD ;)But by all means, correct me if i'm wrong.

For the record, I am not trying to spit on Resistance fans in order to get a reaction or defensive response & i do hope i am incorrect in making the assumption that your little stab with CoD was suppose to annoy me? Well, i am no CoD fan so if that was your intention than you kinda hit & missed there brother. But there is always next time & maybe another gap in the near future for you to squeeze an attack in 😉

Look, it doesn't matter which game it is, the fact that any game; be it CoD or Resistance 3 here to have sub HD visuals in 2011 is simply inexcusable imo. I am not taking sides, if this was one of my fave franchises be it Silent Hill or Tekken I would be jumping all over it & ripping it to shreds.

Having said that, i realise you're a Resistance fan & i do hope the game succeeds & lives up to your expectations.

Dridion
Dridion
12 years ago

Wow, just wow. This is TRULY a sad day in gaming when the only thing we care about are graphics. What happened to the gamers who played for the FUN of it?

@kevin

I don't think lawless was, in any way, trying to attack you. He simply stated FACTS which I even stated in the other R3 thread; THE BEST SELLING GAME IN HISTORY RUNS NOWHERE NEAR 720 EITHER! That, obviously, has not stopped gamers from buying it.

What's important here is how it runs. If I can get a solid 60 fps WITHOUT screen tearing and decent AA, than I'm a happy camper. I don't understand why people are so butt hurt.

This is why I love Jaffe…he understands the golden era of gaming, when fun was THE pivotal factor. If I can recall correctly, someone once asked him why the new TM looked the way it did. His response was simple; how long does that "awwww" factor stay with you while playing a game with beast graphics? For most only about the first 30 minutes!

Some are willing to sacrifice superb gameplay just to get 30 minutes of eye candy? Wow! I hate to hear what the critics will say when TM releases.

This gen has been amazing. From the console fanboys to the ingrates who complain about something as trivial as graphics. I can already tell and can guarantee that the majority of people complaining ARE NOT from the good 8/16 bit era of gaming they claim to be. There's no way I can begin fathom how someone who had no care, or even a preference for good graphics, can sit here today and complain. It's just unthinkable. I guess our breed is a dying one.


Last edited by Dridion on 8/5/2011 5:21:23 AM

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
12 years ago

Rest assured, I wasn't taking a jab at you Kevin. Just pointing out that, as Dridion said, the highest selling game in history doesn't run at a true HD resolution. That being said, I agree that it shouldn't happen.

Dridion,
One thing that worries me is that I'm pretty sure that R3 runs at 30fps, and the AA is destroyed by the SFX on screen according to a article on, I think, Digital Foundry. But no screen tearing thanks to V-Sync. Graphics do matter. When they're better, they can drag you further into the game and eventually you acclimatise to them.

Dridion
Dridion
12 years ago

@lawless

I do have to say it's a little disappointing to hear that it's running at 30fps especially for a FPS. I haven't played the game obviously so I'll reserve my judgments for later. The failure of a broken AA is as a little disheartening to hear. I hate jaggies and flickering but again I'll reserve judgment. However, I'm extremely happy to hear V-sync is enabled. It's a staple with most if not all PS3 titles.


Last edited by Dridion on 8/5/2011 6:25:37 AM

Beamboom
Beamboom
12 years ago

@Dridion: I like your attitude, and I do agree to a certain point.
Todays games, even the ones with rather low meta-score, usually have quite good graphics compared with games not too many years ago. And true, it's not all about the graphics.

However, it's only natural to compare. And when doing so one should compare it with releases from the same period in time. And especially when it comes to the often praised exclusive titles, one should expect them to be at least on par with high profiled multi platform releases.

Mind you I will get this game unless it's a catastrophy, because of the coop mode.

Nas Is Like
Nas Is Like
12 years ago

@kevin

I don't understand how you can have "varied" opinions on graphics. Either they're good or they're not. Resistance 3's graphics are up to standards for the year 2011, if not even further beyond those standards. The graphics are excellent, simple as. Especially if you're playing the game in HD, there is absolutely nothing to complain or be upset about.


Last edited by Nas Is Like on 8/5/2011 1:47:03 PM

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
12 years ago

Halo 3's graphics weren't that great either, and look how well that game did. Just goes to show, graphics aren't everything.

If the story is great and the gameplay is solid, I'm on board.

… well, I'm already on board. Got the Collector's Edition preordered. 🙂

Temjin001
Temjin001
12 years ago

Well. Halo 3 was reasonably good looking by 360's standards. PS3 gamers have been conditioned to expect great looking exclusives like GoW3, HR, Uncharted 2, Infamous 2, GT5, and KZ2/KZ3. Can't blame gamers for having high expectations for the next PS3 flagship exclusive.

But hey, no verdicts can really be made until review code is out in the wild. Besides, maybe that supposed graphics loss will be accounted for by something else significant the game is doing. I read it has impressive physics stuff going on.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
12 years ago

You are correct Dancemachine55.

FxTales
FxTales
12 years ago

Shouldn't be a concern. As long as it has an immersive story, solid gameplay and doesn't take 5 hours to complete then I'm content.

sirbob6
sirbob6
12 years ago

I was so expecting this to make the original Crysis look like a SNES game. To see that it fails at this will force me to never buy this game and ridicule it at every possible opportunity.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
12 years ago

Nah… feels more fun to ridicule YOU for that statement!! 🙂

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

I love hyperbole

Kevin555
Kevin555
12 years ago

"I was so expecting this to make the original Crysis look like a SNES game"

I've never heard of this comedian.

sirbob6
sirbob6
12 years ago

Maybe I should have noted the sarcasm…
Resistance 3 is a D1P

calculator
calculator
12 years ago

I believe people are just whining. Graphics don't make a game – so why whine about Resistance 3's graphics? The graphics aren't the highlight of the game. It's the story and gameplay that matter most.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
12 years ago

Like I said above, Halo 3!!

It's graphics were just a hi-res Halo 2 clone and look how well THAT game sold. (Although, brand recognition played a role, it is Halo after all)

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

I disagree, the gameplay in FPS are almost all the same across the spectrum and the stories are all pretty Hollywood thin. I play RPGs for the gameplay and story, but if I'm going to buy into an FPS on day 1 it really should be a very pretty thing because it doesn't have all the other thousands of aspects happening like an open world game or western RPG does.

sirbob6
sirbob6
12 years ago

Don't forget about the epic guns!
They are one of the main reasons I love the series.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
12 years ago

Perhaps they toned down the graphics or resolution as a result of 3D implementation, along with the 3D split image thing for 2 players on the Playstation TV that they announced at E3.

I reckon it sounds more than likely this is what happened.

I hope this isn't the way of the future though, toning down the 2D single player graphics and resolution for 3D. Gran Turismo 5 managed to get it right!! 1080p for single player 2D, 720p in 3D, and it still looked incredible!!

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

If that is true then I despise 3D even more.

Codeez
Codeez
12 years ago

Do graphics alone make quality games? Pshh….The Resistance franchise has never been about the graphics for me anyways. It's the fun factor that sucks me in. The Story, the vast array of weapons, the crazy enemies/bosses/environments..Sure I would love for it to run in full 1080p and at 60fps, but at the end of the day I know I'll be saying "Who the f*** cares about graphics? This game is kickass!"

PSTan
PSTan
12 years ago

Uhh… I'm pretty sure these detractors haven't seen the new Resistance story trailer (look it up, type in "Resistance 3 'Resist' Trailer"; aside from some awkward animations, the visuals look fantastic.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

Trust me, what you see in trailers on your computer is rarely what you get at home on the console.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
12 years ago

Whether or not that's the case World, isn't the point of his comment. The trailer they just released on the PS Blog looks fantastic.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

The point of his post is implicit.

FM23
FM23
12 years ago

I have never complained about R3's graphics, but those complaining may have a point. The fact that it's a PS3 exclusive highlights their grief even more. Killzone 3 was good a looking game in a ugly end of the world way with its crispy graphics, but I wasn't impressed at all by it…well at least by the overall package….they mechanics were freaking great, but the game was just meh. Graphics don't make a good game. R3 may actually be a better game when it comes out.

I just got around to playing Oblivion and of course this game doesn't look that great at all by today's standards yet I hold it above alot of games because the core is so great. R3 might end up being a very good game, but the graphics are far from bad or game changing. But the gameplay does look kind of weird, I don't know what it is, but it looks very old school or something.

Beamboom
Beamboom
12 years ago

That's how I think it looks too: Very old-school. I actually got Half-Life vibes from what I've seen.
Not that half-life were bad back then, but it's far from the current expectations, especially since it's tailor made for one system, and not multi plat.


Last edited by Beamboom on 8/5/2011 2:19:06 AM

Mamills
Mamills
12 years ago

well, i'll have to agree.
i loved resistance 1 and 2 and im sure i will like 3. but im sorry these devs seem to obsessed with the colour brown. seriously the colour palette is really hurting this game to me.

but we'll see how it does.
not a 1st day buy for me though

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