It's always an important question: how well do fantastic games stand up over time?

For the most part, the Metal Gear Solid franchise has produced titles that really do withstand the test of time. Thanks to memorable characters, storylines, and dramatic situations, the MGS games always deliver, and always seem to maintain their appeal over many years. If you ask the fans, they'll say it's frequently great fun to replay older titles, and that includes the "archaic" original.

But gaming just keeps pushing forward at a phenomenal rate, and a lot has happened in the last three years. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves brought interactive entertainment to a new level, and other titles ( LittleBigPlanet 2 , Gran Turismo 5 , Heavy Rain , God of War III , etc.) have continued to push the envelope. It seems like better games keep showing up on a continual basis and by the end of 2011, we'd have to compare MGS4 to Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception , Battlefield 3 , Assassin's Creed: Revelations , Batman: Arkham City , The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim , and more. So does MGS4 still stand tall in the face of that competition?

Personally, I say it does. Above all else, MGS4 seems like a relatively unique experience, especially with the decline of Japanese-centric games. We won't see its like again until MGS5 shows up…and no, I don't think we can count Metal Gear Solid: Rising , as it's a different sort of MGS. The hardcore fans will back me on that.

Related Game(s): Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

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TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

I think MGS4 will always be one of the best games this generation. As will Uncharted (all three games).

As for Japanese games – don't get me started on that again, I might write an essay.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I'd read it.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

I appreciate that Worlds, only thing is, right now it might be an angry essay.

Note the avatar change. I'll have to work up a new avatar to include Rorona, and perhaps even a catgirl from one of the sillier Anime series with my original lineup.


Last edited by TheHighlander on 7/11/2011 10:53:08 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I just started watching Claymore, nothing silly about that 🙂

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

Highlander. Do you have any recommended anime shows I should watch? I need some suggestions. :p

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Depends what you want. I've been sucked into the silly harem comedies of late. I've never been real big on the action anime anyway, so it depends on what you like. There are a few other fans around these here parts as well, so I'm sure there will be some suggestions. What kind of genre/story do you prefer?

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

I mostly watch stuff like Bleach, Naruto, Getbackers (finishing it) Ghost In The Shell: SAC, Break Blade, InuYasha, Rurouni Kenshin (Samurai X). Mostly stuff like that.

But I'm looking to branch out, something that has a good story behind it, I like a bit of comedy ones as well, but it's not high on my list, but it all depends on my mood I guess.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I will always recommend Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Black Lagoon, and Big-O

Mog
Mog
9 years ago

I started to watch death note, up to episode 12. Omg, it is just so damn good!

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Beebop is fun, Gurren Lagann has it's charm as well. If you are looking for straight up silly with a good dose of fan service find "Asobi ni Ikuyo: Bombshells from the Sky", but that is in Japanese with Subtitles, you might find it on CrunchyRoll.

Note : My new avatar adds Eris, the central character in "Asobi ni Ikuyo: Bombshells from the Sky", as well as Rorona from Atelier Rorona.

karneli lll
karneli lll
9 years ago

Death note is insane. Might i suggest Tokyo majin, Ga rei,D mann gray and Darker than black. Or if you want something completely out of the box try Mushi-Shi,its like playing flower after a call of duty marathon. If you have netflix all these are available.

main_event05
main_event05
9 years ago

@Clam
Go to funimation.com they just made they whole collection available for free streams. Tons of anime to choose from. so just go down the list trying stuff till you hit something you like.

Mog
Mog
9 years ago

Insane as in good or insane as in bad? You better reply the right answer or else…. 🙂 BTW, like the new avatar highlander.

johnld
johnld
9 years ago

If you like those action anime like bleach, naruto, and rurouni kenshin, you could try busou renkin, kekkaishi and fate/stay night

like highlander, i mostly watch harem/comedy/romance type animes because to me they're a lot of fun to watch. story might not play that big of a part but they're just hilarious. some of my favorites are baka to test, the world god only knows(2 seasons), asu no yoichi, love hina, ai yori aoshi(2 seasons), b gata h kei, chobits, to love ru(2 seasons), DearS, denpa onna, ookamisan, dog days, full metal panic, goshuushousama ninomiyakun, hayate no gotoku, infinite stratos, inukami, kore wa zombie desu ka, nyan koi, shuffle!, toaru majutsu no index, toradora, zero no tsukaima(3 seasons). i have a lot more but these are just a few of my favorites. if you want some more just hit my psn with a message. most of my collection play fine on the ps3 and i could probably even tell you where to find them. my psn id is the same here, just let me know you're from psxextreme because i trash empty invites.

Vitron
Vitron
9 years ago

@clamadeus

Code Geass

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

Wow, thanks everyone for giving me some suggestions that's a lot. 😮

I'll have to watch them later and John I will send you a Friend Request on PS3 later today. 4:40 AM in the morning eastern time and tired was up all night Lol.

I watched a bit of Ghost In The Shell: SAC, and Asobi Ni Ikuyo: Bombshells From The Sky, it's very interesting LOL. I'm liking it so far the art and everything on it is top notch on crunchy roll very impressive.

Well night everyone, I will definitely watch more what you guys mentioned.

Claire C
Claire C
9 years ago

Cowboy Bebop is best! =D

Teddie9
Teddie9
9 years ago

:p I love how your image just keeps expanding Highlander.

As for anime Clamedeus I recently watched Le Chevalier D'eon. Story's good and the art is fantastic. ( only 24 episodes and the english dub is actually quite good as well)

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

LOL! thanks, the fun part of making the avatar is every time I add someone, I have to figure out how best to overlay everyone to fit them all in and still keep the recognizable. So far, so good.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

@JohnLD,

I was looking at buying the Chobbits box set, how would you rate Chobbits?

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

oh yeah, and the best anime ever made FLCL

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

I haven't watched FLCL in ages, I might have to start now.

Douchebaguette
Douchebaguette
9 years ago

@ Highlander

I have a theory as to why the Japanese are failing to generate quality titles.

Obviously I pin the blame on every individual that collectively contributed towards their submission, however Microsoft are responsible for a huge chunk, simply because they released their console too early – rushed to the point of 50 – 30% failure rate upon release as well, just to be over a year's head start of the competition. Typical.

The early release combined with the invasion of PC gaming influenced online [FPS being the flagbearer] caused mass confusion within the Japanese gaming industry, of which were noticing how the western audience absorbed the new method of high definition gaming consisting of only one western console for the first year to bring forth a western influence so well. Really not surprising, however I can only presume Japanese publishers were thinking:

"SHIT, GUYZ, THEY GOT ZE MISSILES, WTF EIH?"

This caused 54% of all Japanese devs & publishers to suddenly think fully catering [i.e. immitating] for the western audience would be a smart idea, 43% to whine & start having an apocalyptic mindset/fit about the Great Japanese Gaming Depression [or demise], whilst the other 3% would still try and stick to their tried & tested roots. The latter has been more successful, imo.

And eeiiiwwww, not Crunchyroll… =P.
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@ Clamedeus

I see your list is probably overloaded already, but for good light comedy, for now I recommend the following:

– Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu
– Hayate No Gotoku!
– !!!1!!!!!?!?!
– Shijou Saikyou No Deshi Kenichi

After watching Bebop make sure you watch Samurai Champloo as well. R.I.P. Nujabes

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

I will Indeed DoucheBaguette, thanks for the increasing pile. Lol

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Hayate is awesome, there are so many that are…but that one is very good indeed.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Yes.

Godslim
Godslim
9 years ago

couldnt have put it any better

mastiffchild
mastiffchild
9 years ago

It's the BEST game this generation and nothing else has come that close to changing my mind since it's release.i love a lot of games but nothing commands my respect more that the herculean task Koj pulled off with MGS4. Masterpiece is underselling his achievement.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

Short. Simple. Truthful.

Quincho
Quincho
9 years ago

I does!! I mean, its MGS4. that game its a masterpiece, there are few games out there that can top this one

bebestorm
bebestorm
9 years ago

Yes!! MGS4 still sits at the top of my list for this generation.

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

<3 MGS4, so I say yes!

StangMan80
StangMan80
9 years ago

i'm not sure if Uncharted 3 will top MGS4. yeah, I said it.
I love MGS! I think MGS3 is still in my top 5 easy.
nothing get's better then MGS.

just… I can't find any where to preorder my MGS HD collection. it's not listed any where for some reason. But when I can I'm going to ASP.

Waiting patiently for MGS5.

sunspider13
sunspider13
9 years ago

Umm…YES!!! When the music starts playing at the started up screen I still get the shivers.

sunspider13
sunspider13
9 years ago

*start

BTNwarrior
BTNwarrior
9 years ago

crawling through the microwave is still the most memorable experience I have ever witnessed in a videogame

main_event05
main_event05
9 years ago

1st time i ever came close to tearing up cause of a game.

The 1st time I actually did was when….

**SPOILER**

…Big Boss showed up to make peace and died.

SpikeSpiegel
SpikeSpiegel
9 years ago

A resounding yes is in order! As with all Metal Gear Solid games, they are brilliant from start to finish!

SoulController
SoulController
9 years ago

The bar was set so high by mgs4. 3 years later & we still consider it one of the greatest, if not the greatest game of this generation. Still bummed about that trophy patch

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

Is MGS4 Still One Of The Best Of The Current Generation?
yes! yes it is the best of the generation. maybe even all time. or at least best game ever on a playstation console.
my personal all time favorite game BTW the fight with liquid at the end when it plays the different music from all snake & liquid battles from previous mgs's is the single greatest moment of gaming i've ever experienced!


Last edited by TheCanadianGuy on 7/11/2011 10:14:04 PM

SpikeSpiegel
SpikeSpiegel
9 years ago

If I could give a mega sized thumbs to that boss battle, I would ten times over. Everything about that fight was perfect. From the music, as you mentioned, to even the tiny details like Ocelot changing fighting stances for each part, and the voice work overall. An awesome boss battle to say the least.

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

yea man i'm not ashamed to say i got a little chocked up because me & mgs go way back to 98 & hearing the different music & the names on the life bars like "naked snake" & all the others just brought back all the memories over the last 10 years. it was truly something special. something i'll never forget.

TheIllusiveMan
TheIllusiveMan
9 years ago

No lie, I literally just started a new game on MGS4 and I just turned it off only a couple of minutes ago. Looking back at it, it's still an amazing game in nearly every way. Graphics are still somewhat good, but it's easy to notice the somewhat lower polygon count in places. Especially around knees.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

The quality of the visuals in a game is not defined by the polygon count.

Claire C
Claire C
9 years ago

Yah, I think MGS4 is still an excellent looking. Great even. =)

TheIllusiveMan
TheIllusiveMan
9 years ago

I never once said or even hinted at that. I was just mentioning that the low polygon count IS noticeable. I always noticed it though I guess. Never bothered me. The games amazing in every way. It's within my personal top 5 games for story (actually it's my #1) and I love all of the Metal Gear series. I own physical copies in some form or another of all the canon games. Trust me, it's my favorite series (followed close by Assassin's Creed).

sirbob6
sirbob6
9 years ago

Ummm… that would be a yes.

Kiryu
Kiryu
9 years ago

Yes one of the Best but confused the story of the MGS Series.

main_event05
main_event05
9 years ago

How so??

main_event05
main_event05
9 years ago

why the thumbs down? its an honest question.