Okay Capcom, we admit it. We're a little confused.

We've seen several publishers institute a method of combating used game sales (of which those publishers never see a dime); it's the paid online pass. Basically, if you buy the game new, you don't pay to play online; if you purchase it used, you won't get the online pass code that comes in the box, and you have to pay $10 to compete online.

But this may be taking everything to a whole new level- According to Eurogamer , Resident Evil Mercenaries 3D for the Nintendo 3DS has a message in the manual, which reads- "saved data on this software cannot be reset." Hence, you can't delete save data and start a new game, so it's really only playable once . Eurogamer has seen the UK version in front of them, and Tiny Cartridge has posted up pics of the US manual, too. Is this a new way of combating used game sales? I mean, you wouldn't even be able to sell this game used at all , right?

But what if you wanted to play it again? What if you just lent it to a friend? The game is rendered useless after one play-through? That can't be correct. …can it?

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jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
9 years ago

F*** you, Capcom!

Hopefully this isn't entirely accurate. If it is people should show their displeasure by not purchasing the title. Hell any kind of noise from ticked off gamers about this would be great. This sort of thing can't catch on.


Last edited by jimmyhandsome on 6/28/2011 9:52:08 AM

djbool
djbool
9 years ago

The opening tagline made me nearly piss my pants. You hilarious, but I agree.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
9 years ago

Ha! That opener, that picture… Very cool.

Claire C
Claire C
9 years ago

If this is true Capcom is gonna get so much backlash.

Douchebaguette
Douchebaguette
9 years ago

For some reason I imagined a South Park style stereotype of a middle aged Japanese man saying this…

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

This whole fighting against used sales really shows the most ugly, greedy side of this entire business, imo.

What if they tried to do the same with books, or music albums…? I love to browse through used books in markets!
I guess some publishers would if they could. Still, it's a sad sight.


Last edited by Beamboom on 6/28/2011 9:51:41 AM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Watch out for this when it comes to publications on e-readers. They could conceivably do this in software on e-book readers.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

I think it's more then that Beamboom. The global economy will continue to influence the decision making process for this industry.

According to the NPD, May was the worst month in 5 years. Publishers and developers have little choice but to pursue another avenue here, and that street is named "Used Games Drive".

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

@HighLander: Yeah I know, but somehow I just don't think it will happen. Maybe I have too much faith in that business, we shall see. They are however concerned about piracy, as they should be. And I wish them the best of luck with that.

@Maxpontiac: It's not like I feel sorry for them Max, really.
They are part of an up-and-coming business segment that's conquered half the entire friggin' entertainment business during no more than the last couple of decades.

They are "not poor, starving artists".
They don't have to worry much about what tomorrow will bring, other than to keep competing to create the best products.


Last edited by Beamboom on 6/28/2011 2:28:24 PM

Claire C
Claire C
9 years ago

Even when a game is successful you still hear about employease getting laid off because their services are no longer required. Seems like it's more of a corporate greed.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

I think this is a horrible way to do things. This possibly means you can only pay through a game once, and that there no used value. I know we have discussed this issue here before, and I know that many publishers see used game sales as threatening (or more) as game piracy. However this is absolutely not the way to go about it. This actually reduces the value of the game to the purchaser. You are paying literally for a single play. Talk about a sledgehammer to crack a walnut. If a publisher is going to make purchasers of the game play it as if it were a one time rental, then they have no right to charge more than the cost of a game rental, pure and simple. If this is truly as it's been reported, Capcom needs to know that this is BS.

The online pass I can actually see the point of because when a used game buyer buys the game they have no customer relationship with the publisher, and if they want to use the publisher's online resources, they need to establish that relationship and pay for that additional service. I can see the logic and sense behind that – as long as it's truly about additional online service/content and not just enabling content on the disc. But this practice that Capcom appears to be going after is very different and really quite anti-gamer.

Not that I want to start a rumor, but I want Sony to be very clear that Vita games will not do this, since they come on cards with a local re-writeable area for saves.


Last edited by TheHighlander on 6/28/2011 9:55:36 AM

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
9 years ago

Well… I think it just means other then that system, it can't be played anywhere else.

Ignitus
Ignitus
9 years ago

It would be nice to know SONY's stance on the subject with the Vita games, indeed.

Oxvial
Oxvial
9 years ago

Miss the ol times when buy a game didn't make you feel too much buyers remorse with all the DLC,short singleplaper experience and canned local multiplayer in favor of online multiplayer focus, and now the pass.

Also creepy hackers trying to get your personal info with your console.


Last edited by Oxvial on 6/28/2011 9:55:09 AM

Dridion
Dridion
9 years ago

And here I thought other forms of DRM were intense. This takes the cake by far. Let the battles truly begin -_- SMH.

ZettaiSeigi
ZettaiSeigi
9 years ago

I made a quick check of my PS3 games to see if I have anything by Capcom in my collection. Nope, zero, zip, zilch, nada. That's possibly not going to change if this is true.


Last edited by ZettaiSeigi on 6/28/2011 10:00:11 AM

darxed
darxed
9 years ago

I really don't think that you can only play through the game once, I mean, every review I read has a replayability score on it, so this gets a zero? The fact that you can't delete the saved data is not the same as saying that you can't start over. If this was a PS3/360 game what I think it would mean is that you can only get trophies/achievements once or something like that, maybe that's the case with this game as well.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

From what I understand, you can continue playing once you finish the campaign, but you can't go back to the beginning and start from scratch.

Here's a quote from TinyCartridge;

"There’s speculation that Capcom deliberately made it impossible for users to delete their save data to discourage used game sales — since those who buy Mercenaries 3D used can’t wipe the save and start over from the beginning, some Japanese shops will only pay very low prices (as low as $6!) for pre-played copies."

That seems to confirm that you can't start over.


Last edited by TheHighlander on 6/28/2011 10:38:21 AM

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

Gotta love the economy's impact on the gaming industry. None of us should be surprised over this.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Not sure it's so much the economy as it is Capcom's greed. They have been looking for new and interesting ways to stick it to gamers since this generation began. Funny thing is, in all their attempts to make more money, they just seem to be digging themselves deeper in a whole. They should just sell their best franchises to Nintendo or Sony and close up shop. At least then, MegaMan, Street Fighter and Resident Evil might have a fighting chance. Can you imagine a Resident Evil title done by Sony Santa Monica with the God of War 3 engine? Droooool…..

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

Without a doubt Jawknee, making money drives all businesses.

But my point is, that sales outside of a few mega hitters are lacking, and since we don't know the extent of sales with the used games section, my guess is it's high enough to warrant that publishers and developers dip into it.

If new game sales as a whole continue to decline, it should only be obvious that more and more companies will follow suit.

I have mentioned this before, but Xbox Live was only the beginning of charging people to play. It was online passes, and now it seems locked saves might be another domino.

Spanky
Spanky
9 years ago

Sheesh and I thought DLCs were being greedy!

VIVIsectVI
VIVIsectVI
9 years ago

I won't be buying any game from any publisher regardless if it's new or used if they decide to go this route.

GuyverLT
GuyverLT
9 years ago

I hope this isn't true, and is just a rumor, because they're publishing some pretty promising looking games next year that I'm stoked about.

Seriously Capcom, WTF????

I play through games more then once as I'm everyone else does too… I think, and if they do this then as much as I want to play DmC, if I only can play through it once, then there is no point in buying @ full price especially if I can just rent them.


Last edited by GuyverLT on 6/28/2011 10:24:55 AM

jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
9 years ago

Well, technically you wouldn't be able to rent this game if someone else already played it (assuming this story is accurate). So I think most would just skip the game entirely.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

What "promising" titles do they have coming out?

jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
9 years ago

Dragon's Dogma has potential. Outside of that I dunno what else.

GuyverLT
GuyverLT
9 years ago

@Jawknee

Asura's Wrath, (looks like it's just over the top action, although it might get Repetitive), Dragon's Dogma looks even more promising and fun, that Resident Evil looks like it will be somewhat fun to play with a friend. They might not seem that way to you, but they look like possibly good games to me and if they're not then it's whatever, there are other games out there for us to enjoy.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Yea, I'm not interested in those titles in the least bit. Not really into hack n' slash titles other than God of War and don't really care for Dungeons and Dragonsesque anything, hence why Dragons Dogma looks blahg to me. Also this Mercenaries titles seems like a huge rip off. Why pay $40 for a game that's nothing more than an add-on feature from previous titles?

Seems to me the game itself is the real ripoff…the locked save data is just an added "screw you" by Crapcom.

GuyverLT
GuyverLT
9 years ago

Uh… I was actually talking about Resident Evil: Raccoon City game not the one for the 3ds.

I haven't own a Nintendo handheld since the GameBoy color.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Gotcha, I thought you were talking about this 3DS title.

Xombito
Xombito
9 years ago

I'm not jumping to conclusions until I see more REAL information on this.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Yeah, because information taken from a game manual is so fake.
=p

Neo_Aeon666
Neo_Aeon666
9 years ago

isn't there something we can do? I was planing on getting mercenaries for my 3ds but I am skipping if this is the case. I don't want to encourage them.

We need a million signatures gamer petition and we need to ban their games from our lists as a result of their changes until they undo the uglyness

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

You can try contacting them and voice you displeasure via their Capcom Unity site, though you may just get bombarded by the Crapcom defense force over there. Their alliance with Xbot Fanboys runs deep. Crapcom can do no wrong in their eyes.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Weak sauce, Capcom. Weak sauce.
This sucks worse than the new Dante. And that's hard to do, too.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

So what's with the obese woman holding her hands up?
I got it. That's the mom confused as to what 3DS game she should buy for her bratty spoiled kid.

But that can't be right. All moms sit in their living room issuing voice commands to the KINECT.

The Doom
The Doom
9 years ago

wtf? How does she look 'obese'? She seems like a size 12 at best

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

If this sh*t is true, then……

"F*ck you Capcom, your company IS going down for the count"!


Last edited by BikerSaint on 6/28/2011 11:01:52 AM

gumbi
gumbi
9 years ago

This has to be a misunderstanding. You need to be able to reset your game. What if you want to play it again, or if you take a long break from it and want to start over. If this is true I wonder how all the businesses that rent video games are going to like it.

This all sounds pretty shady, I like replaying my favourite games from scratch.


Last edited by gumbi on 6/28/2011 11:02:05 AM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Click on the tinyCartidge link, they have a picture from the game's manual and it states that it can't be reset.

gumbi
gumbi
9 years ago

Weak… well I hope they get enough backlash from this to warrant revising their strategy. This specific example may not affect me because I'll never play this game, but we can't allow for this concept to take off… bad bad bad.

Vivi_Gamer
Vivi_Gamer
9 years ago

Well it's a good thing that I do not like the new route RE has gone…


Last edited by Vivi_Gamer on 6/28/2011 11:04:18 AM

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Forget "rent to own"…

This is "own to rent".

Palmetto
Palmetto
9 years ago

Well It really screws family gaming since my son and I share games all the time. There is no way I am going to buy two copies of the same game. I will speak with my wallet when purchasing any games from developers that go this route!

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I'm not surprised at all by this. People call them "Crapcom" for a reason.

AshT
AshT
9 years ago

what the hell is going on?

SnipeySnake
SnipeySnake
9 years ago

Well…its too bad for them cause i was thinking of getting the new RE game but it looks like they're not getting my money.

AnonWTF
AnonWTF
9 years ago

Now the game has no replay value which takes away from the gameplay experience even if it is purchased new. Why would you want to punish the people who are buying/preordering the games new? You want to reward them simpletons!

The games overall score is going to shoot way down and is not worth purchasing.

Teddie9
Teddie9
9 years ago

>.> Not Smart