If there's one thing we've learned this generation, it's that the video game industry continues to grow, flex, and alter at blinding speed. What was commonly accepted even a few years ago is now extremely rare, and the mainstream blockbuster has now become a standard trend, as it is in Hollywood.

For the time being, with 20+ million copies sold with every new installment (or so it seems to be), the Call of Duty franchise reigns supreme. The fans are happy. They get another installment every year; it's not a drastically different entry and that's exactly what they want. Now, there was a time when Final Fantasy fans felt something very similar when a new FF was on the horizon: that new title wasn't an annual event, of course, but it was guaranteed quality of a certain kind. It would have sky-high production values, a great story, and a style of RPG combat that we knew we would love.

And then Final Fantasy XIII happened, and there's no going back. There's nothing wrong with FFXIII – I've said that before – but it's definitely a very different experience. In truth, with the advancing industry, what franchise has remained exactly as it was, even only 5 years ago? Now, while the mainstream is easily satisfied and Activision is more likely to stick with a winning formula, there will come a day when the accepted CoD formula will have to change. Would you like to know how it's going to happen, faithful CoD followers? I can explain it in vivid detail:

There will come a time when the developer – be it Infinity Ward or Treyarch or whoever – says something like, "we want to redefine the series." Or perhaps they'll use the word "evolve" or "reboot." And then they'll give us a little peek, and something will be very, very different… And then the fans will freak out and everyone will run back to Modern Warfare 3 'cuz the next CoD "just isn't gonna be CoD." How many times have fans said that about their favorite franchise? You don't honestly believe CoD is completely immune, do you? Granted, it'll continue on with the same formula for a while, but oh…how quickly things change.

And when that "new" CoD is suddenly sci-fi-based, or stealth becomes a factor, or half the game is dominated by vehicles, or it starts stealing from "Star Wars" (oh, who knows what might happen?), the Final Fantasy fans will get their chance to laugh. We'll all ask- "How's it feel? Welcome to the club. …we've been waiting for you."

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TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

I'm applauding from the JRPG turn based survival bunker. As much as I'll want to pick on these poor guys when their favorite genre dries up, I will do mu best to be nice.

Godslim
Godslim
9 years ago

its just a videogame *sigh*

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

No, really? And that would be why I made a totally serious comment about a JRPG survival bunker? I never would have thought it was just a game. I mean really? A game? Dude….

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

lol

Nas Is Like
Nas Is Like
9 years ago

I think it's pretty obvious that Highlander takes his games pretty damn seriously, lol.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

I disagree. He doesn't often get into debates about the games themselves. If anything, he's passionate about technology.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

Oh, when the topic is JRPGs I'd label him "passionate" without any hesitation whatsoever. 😀


Last edited by Beamboom on 6/21/2011 11:37:47 AM

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Well, yes, for jRPG's specifically.

This particular thread is a bit of an overreaction by godslim, but yea, for jRPG's he is. As am I!

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

jrps's are almost on life support with releases that are few and far between so i share highlander's pain. cod might fade away, but i don't think the fps genre will ever suffer the same fate as jrpgs.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Hey, there's more than JRPGs can you not see the central figure in my avatar?

😉

Then there's the collection of racers including, but not limited to Burnout Paradise, MotorStorm, MotorStorm Pacific Rift, GT5Prolog, WipeOut HD, Ridge Racer 7, and then there is Uncharted 1 & 2 (2 of my 3 Plats) and inFamous 1 & 2, and of course the Ratchet and Clank collection, and many more…I'm just not big into shooters and survival/Horror games.

However, yes, I am passionate about technology – and gaming in general. That's why I see the hyper success of a single franchise in a single extremely dominant genre that literally overshadows the other genre as an issue.

apples14
apples14
9 years ago

yeah good point. Some games also go down in quality too. Seeing a beautiful game series getting ruined is frightening, and sometimes it makes me wish I was on the team so I could work on the game and fix things up (If I knew how :P). I don't mean to imply the COD series…I was actually referring to the R&C and Duke Nukem if u were wondering 🙁

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

It's a nice sentiment that they will have to feel our pain and might just shut up about our complaints. However, I don't know where the trend could be trending next. Could CoD get even faster and dumber?

I'd really love to see some thoughtfulness get back into gaming. Even Duke Nukem Forever takes a kiloton more thought to traverse than a CoD game.

At the very least I'd like to see the half assed action stuff leave the great stuff like FF and Dragon Age alone.


Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 6/20/2011 9:51:02 PM

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

"Could CoD get even faster and dumber?"… probably yes… and more glitzy…

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

SnipeySnake
SnipeySnake
9 years ago

Im gonna cry tears of joy when that happens. The thing is they don't need to change anything. Heck they could have MW3 as the last cod game and still make money off of it with their overpriced map packs. People would still buy it no matter how many map packs they come out with.

thj_1980
thj_1980
9 years ago

I can see cod ending after Modern Warfare 3 if it isn't good.

If it's good COD might reign longer then expected.

SnipeySnake
SnipeySnake
9 years ago

It doesn't have to be good, it will still sell millions.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

… But then there will be millions of disappointed fans. One shall not underestimate a disappointed crowd of millions.

And I very much agree with Ben here. It's only a question of time until someone takes over after COD.
COD have to change *something* each time, at the same time it can not change *too much*, and that is one helluva balancing challenge.


Last edited by Beamboom on 6/21/2011 3:49:41 AM

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

"it's not a drastically different entry"

If there needs to be anymore proof of how biased and retarded most game reviewers are these days, it's the fact that they continue to give these games glowing reviews each year while complaining about games like inFamous 2 for "playing too much like the previous game". It's pretty pathetic.

FM23
FM23
9 years ago

OMG…seriously, when I read that in reviews…CoD immediately came to mind.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

yup, those review are whacked.

Godslim
Godslim
9 years ago

tbf man i didnt see much different between infamous 1 and 2…..and even uncharted yes the settings change but the core game ideas and gameplay remain isnt that what cod does……the sp changes everytime

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

@godslim
How does the SP change everytime in CoD? It's exactly the same every time. The only change I noticed between BO and MW2 was that in BO when running and going prone, you'd do a little dive. That's the ONLY change.

jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
9 years ago

…the SP in CoD doesn't change. There are different guns, I guess?

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

"the sp changes everytime"

No offense but that's utter nonsense and you know it.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

The only thing that changes drastically in the CoD series is the story. CoD never mixes it up nor does it receive drastic changes. I'm a CoD fan and even so can say the series is the same every year. It the same experience as before with a sprinkle of freshness with a new number behind the title.

As far as inFMAMOUS goes it is a direct sequel to the first. The story carried right over, so there would be many similarities. But some of the core elements changed, we got new powers, new ways to travel and triverse, a new melee combat system, some better graphics, and the list goes on. It was a direct sequel we couldn't have possibly thought i2 would have been a different game completely could we have?

Don't get me started on Uncharted either. This thread would get pretty long…


Last edited by bigrailer19 on 6/21/2011 12:37:13 PM

matt99
matt99
9 years ago

I never understood that whole "it plays too much like the last one" complaint in reviews, especially when they freely admit (often in the same sentence) that the previous one was good. They're basically saying it plays too much like a good game…which is idiotic.

Besides the point of a sequel is not to completely re-invent a game but to add on and improve one.

FM23
FM23
9 years ago

It easy to say CoD may loose steam, but most games like FF changed their formula due too CoD simple appeal. Not sure how CoD could mess things up for themselves because their more about slow evolution rather than an actiual revolution over nigh I think CoD will become boring after a while and thats how the franchise will become yesterdays new…but then again, who knows. CoD is beyond popular amongst the gaming community. It's bigger than GTA, thats pretty impressive.

Mamills
Mamills
9 years ago

eh, everything comes full circle.

i think CoD has already hit its peak.
arn't they charging $15 a month for stat tracking?
now i wonder if they'll ever remove that stupid auto aim. or any of the other retarded Sh*t.
lol i still remember when i did 68 n 8 with a knife.
god that game is broken

BTNwarrior
BTNwarrior
9 years ago

people just love it because it has rpg elements in it

Mamills
Mamills
9 years ago

lol, it does?

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

About as much RPG elements as inFamous.

BTNwarrior
BTNwarrior
9 years ago

online, you level up to get better stuff. And like any addicting rpg there is alot of stuff to unlock

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Pretty thin BTN

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

More RPG elements than FFVII…at least you get to learn skills.

;P

(hides under a pile of shields)

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
9 years ago

Yeah, but that's online. There's no such thing for offline players.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

LOL! that's kinda funny. Nice joke!

You can "level up" and unlock everything in CoD online in a single evening.

I'm sorry, but there is nothing RPG'ish about CoD. Nice joke though.

BTNwarrior
BTNwarrior
9 years ago

who buys COD for the single player?

jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
9 years ago

BTN, I know what you're saying. Alot of online shooters have that. Its more of a MMORPG feature than a traditional RPG….they do that to create online gaming "addicts". Usually works, too.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

I used to buy it for the SP. I play multiplayer for a while, then that's it. I mean, what's even the point of multiple "prestiges"? You don't really get anything really. I quickly got to level 50 after prestiging once, and stayed there. And if I play it again, i won't re-prestige. EXP means nothing to me. If I prestige, I lose everything I've earned and have to re-earn it. 6 custom classes is more than enough.

Anyways, I enjoyed the SP more than the MP by far.

SnipeySnake
SnipeySnake
9 years ago

Except for the stupid people who decides to throw away everything they've gotten for a small emblem and start over….

Alienange
Alienange
9 years ago

I suppose normally speaking you would be right. However this is Activision. They don't DO "evolves" and "reboots." They will pump out plastic guitars until the customer implodes. CoD will be no different. The formula will remain until the fans are sick of it. Seeing as how no other shooter can touch the quality of gamaplay in a CoD, I highly doubt that change will happen soon.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

yes and when they are sick of it it will be rebooted

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
9 years ago

HAHAHAHA! Did you just say that no other shooter can touch the quality of gameplay in CoD? Are you serious? I mean, that is a VERY subjective observation. Some of us don't like the absolutely mindless forward movement and constant trigger apllication that the game entails. I prefer KZ2 where you have to pick your shots and take your time. I prefer Bioshock where you have OPTIONS.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

I, for one, hate how the difficulty settings work. They just throw more enemies with perfect aim, no matter how much the guns they shoot spray.

In terms of multiplayer, they are, on paper, very good, but most of it is broken.


Last edited by Underdog15 on 6/21/2011 8:43:05 AM

Alienange
Alienange
9 years ago

No, most of it is not broken at all. You've played other shooters with their poor controls, terrible hit detection, lousy balancing, weak weapons and grainy graphics? Most shooters have you fighting the game instead of your opponents. Not so with CoD.

And Lawless… Really? Pick your shots and take your time? That's what makes KZ2's campaign better? You can't do that in any other shooter? You make me laugh and you clearly don't know what makes a great fps great.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

CoD's MP is broken and glitchy with no developer support. MW2 you can still hide in a rock, quick scope glitch, and more. In both Blops and MW2, partying is unreliable, advantage is given to the person with the worst internet, the hosting is poorly implemented… Like I said… on paper it's great. It has some nice features, good maps, good weapons, good modes… but I'm saying it's broken because they don't seem to know how to handle the technical side of a secure and consistent online experience.

That's what I have a beef with.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
9 years ago

Alienange, you don't always have that option in CoD due to certain areas where there is an infinite respawn. It makes it utterly pointless to play tactically. As I recall, there isn't a single area in KZ2 where that is in place, but I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong. And I never said that that is what makes a great FPS… IMO, no FPS really can be 'great', though they certainly can be high quality.

Dreno
Dreno
9 years ago

When this day comes about, and it will, I hope square is there to see it, reflect upon it, and say " damn, why the hell did we try to appeal to the masses with 13? Let's get back to our roots and winning formula, and give our ff fans what they want in an ff ".

Then they will give us an ff worthy of the title.

Now, this comment was made by hearing what everyone ( or atleast a hefty chunk of everyone ) here at psxe has said about ff13. I've still yet to try it. So maybe I can't make this comment.

But I'm an rpg fan like most here, and my views of what an rpg should be are pretty much the same as the other rpg lovers. So I feel I can make this comment in all fairness.

Oh and don't get me wrong, I like cod. But codblops blew goat testies. Real bad.

Gamer Girl Gemo
Gamer Girl Gemo
9 years ago

FFXIII was fun, but like Ben stated many times, it wasn't a FF. Sure, it had the name and that pretty developer logo on it, but it was hardly the tried-and-true formula RPG fans came to love and expect from Square. I actually never finished the thing. Its story was interesting… But the gameplay killed the story and the tight squeeze of linearity made me go insane. I have to admit that the characters were definitely pretty great, but the dead world ruined it. IMO, FFVIII and FFX were the greatest.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Yeah, it's bound to happen. CoD wont always be on top if history has it's way.
I'm good with that. I seem to like bits and pieces from all the many FPS offerings out there.
I like CoD for it's exhilarating scenes and arcade excitement. I like Half Life 2 for it's awesomeness in every form I can think of. I like Killzone for it's uncanny visual presentation and best feeling movement and weaponary physics, fav cover based FPS play too. I love Halo for it's vehicles and it's rich sci-fi orientation, love the core soundtrack themes too.

I sort of wish I could've included Crysis 2 on that list, but I feel like it's neither here nor there for me. Yeah, that don't make sense, but it's all I care to say.