What is Sony's intention with the next PlayStation? We keep getting the feeling that the electronics giant will be shifting gears to the casual and mainstream markets.

Recently, we heard the PS4 might not be a massive technical powerhouse and in fact, it may not boast that much more raw power than the PS3. Then we get an interview with SCEE vice president James Armstrong (via GamingBolt ), where he says the following:

"It’s hard to say right now.I do not think we’ll have a console with a lot better graphics than the PS3 currently offered.I believe the future will be to offer consumers better and more accessible experience .The aim will be to make more people enter the world of video games and try to design titles for women."

It's frightening for the hardcore gamers to realize that such a statement reminds us of the Wii… Nintendo's latest machine was such a tremendous success out of the gate that both Sony and Microsoft eventually dove into motion sensing. Furthermore, while the casual/mainstream crowd is typically familiar with the Xbox 360, the PS3 is frequently the hardcore gamer's console. And no, this isn't to say there are no hardcore gamers who only own a 360; that'd be absurd. What seems apparent is that if you're only a casual fan who plays every once in a while, chances are, you have a 360 and not a PS3.

So what's Sony doing here? What are they planning? The Wii was huge for a little while but definitely lacked staying power, primarily because a video game console needs games to survive in the long run. Gimmicks always wear thin with the consumer; it just gets boring really, really fast. Should we believe Sony is just going to release a new console that isn't much more powerful but more "social?" Designed to cater to those who aren't even gamers? I.e., the Wii? It really is a scary thought; Sony has always been synonymous with games, and to shift that focus in any way seems tragic.

But hey, we shouldn't jump to any conclusions. Nothing concrete is known about the next PlayStation yet. Let's remember that.

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thj_1980
thj_1980
9 years ago

For ever console sony has ever made they have different media playing types:

ps1 – cd
ps2 – dvd and cd
psx- dvd, data and cd
psp – data and umd
ps3- all above plus blu-ray
psp go – data
ps vita – data and cards

wonder what the next one is going to be like?

I don't want sony to release another console until 2013 at least until then, minimum but longer if they could.

But with the Wii U out Sony and Microsoft are probably rushing to think if they are going to release a new one.

There is just so much to experience on the ps3 I don't think we'll ever be done with it.

Sony has way too many name franschises to aim for casual gamers.

The exclusives are earth-shattering awesome!


Last edited by thj_1980 on 6/19/2011 9:40:10 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

It will be blu ray with multiple layers

mackid1993
mackid1993
9 years ago

I've heard that they are working on multi-layer BD discs that have some insanely high capacities. I also wouldn't be surprised if the PS4 had a faster drive.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

I've been hearing rumours that Sony plan on keeping Blu-ray, but just making the next console compatible with multiple layered discs.

Holographic discs are massive, but still way too expensive to implement on a consumer basis, so Sony are sticking with Blu-ray, which is a great thing since many are still confused about the difference between DVD and Blu-ray.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
9 years ago

lol, I wonder if Microsoft will still use DVD's for there next xbox.

thj_1980
thj_1980
9 years ago

correction ps3 does not support umd

The Doom
The Doom
9 years ago

I really hope something was taken out of context. I hope Sony isn't seriously considering ditching it's market to reach the non-gamers. It's bad enough the 360 is doing it now with the Kinect.

FM23
FM23
9 years ago

Couldn't agree more. I hate Kinect.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

I think Sony are smarter than that.

Sony will keep the hardcore experience and advertise that at E3, TGS, gaming websites and other hardcore media sources. Casual experiences will be advertised on TV and in the papers or on Facebook.

Including casual will expand the market, meaning more cash for Sony, meaning more funding for hardcore developers taking chances with new IP's and RPG's or FPS'.

If Sony can successfuly balance both casual and hardcore on PS4, it will turn out win / win for all involved!!! Hardcore get more games and developers of hardcore games get bigger budgets thanks to Sony having plenty of cashiola from party or casual games exceeding in the market.

Let's not forget, there's a lot of competition ahead with MS, Nintendo and Apple, so Sony really have to wow the casual crowd to get them in.

SayWord
SayWord
9 years ago

I agree with you dancemachine. Sony was all about the hardcore with ps3. They realize that the hardcore games is their market. Why would it be any different for the ps4?

FM23
FM23
9 years ago

Wow…that isn't good news at all. Hope they keep making good games. If they want more people to experience games, they need to start advertising their exclusives more. Infamous 2 should of had a better opening week than what it had. Either way, no PS4 anytime soon please.

As far as incorporating women into gaming…that seems kind of odd and big indicator that Sony's going for the casual market. No women I know care about gaming beside Wii Sports…oh the future looks ugly. Hope Sony isn't going this direction. Hope they aren't listening to bullsh*t surveys.

Karosso
Karosso
9 years ago

KEN KUTARAGI PLEASE COME BACK!!!
If they really go that rout, might as well not change the basic design and just overclock the PS3, add tons of memory,newest HDMI standards, maybe add more SPEs. That way all games can run in 3D in 1080p.
But seriously thou, I don't see any chance of that happening. MS will come out with something much more powerful than the X360 and Sony would look really bad falling behind from being the leader in technology… Just don't see it happening.

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

what a scary headline. don't tell me sony's going to pull a nintendo on us and not compete hardware wise.

when sony releases the ps4 it would have to offer a significant upgrade froim what the ps3 offers in terms of graphics. 1080p 60 fps and a hefty amount of ram would be a big leap over the ps3 alone. surely, this guy just doesn't know what he's talking about, i hope.

if sony does focus more on the casual side and doesn't pursue powerful hardware that's a big mistake imo. you need the hardcore gamers. especially early in a consoles life.

i want sony's system to be a beast of a machine with enough horepower to outperform anything ms comes up with.


Last edited by Excelsior1 on 6/19/2011 9:56:28 PM

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

I agree.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

Agree, but I'm sure Sony know better than to pull a Ninty and ditch the hardcore gamer who've supported them all these years.

Sony will no doubt make a powerful console, but let's not forget the PS2. It was the least powerful of the GCN and Xbox, but it was the most popular, why?

Cheap price, heaps of games, earlier launch over the competition, low-fail-rate and a DVD player that didn't "require" a DVD remote to work.

I honestly wouldn't blame Sony if they went down that same road again. Just look at the Wii!! Mario Galaxy 2 was incredible, impressive and sold quite a lot, even though the hardware was incredibly inferior to PS3 or 360.

sawao_yamanaka
sawao_yamanaka
9 years ago

But also dont forget the ps2 came out way before the GCN and the Xbox. That's the main reason it had less power than both of those other systems. The price wasnt so bad either. 300 when it 1st released.

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

a) PS2 was only 1 year earlier.
b) PS2 was as capable if you used its quirks: compare GOW2 to any Xbox game.
c) the differences between last-gen systems in terms of raw power were not generational differences, like PS3 v. Wii (or the hypothetical PS4 v. a truly next-gen Xbox).

cLoudou
cLoudou
9 years ago

'Design titles for women'? Tell me he's joking. Lemme guess, it will be called the PS She.

Claire C
Claire C
9 years ago

Say whaaaat…? =<.<=

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

LMAO!!!

Just use the extra storage of multi-layered blu-rays to make female lead characters optional, like Bioware do with their games. Same script, same story, just minute changes in character relationships and dialogue referring to "she" instead of "he".

It's an extra 2-3 months of development, but the extra sales would definitely pay-off.

LittleBigMidget
LittleBigMidget
9 years ago

God I hope not. I prefer teh usual PlayStation combo. 75% hardcore, 25% casual. At least thats how I see it.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I find it hard to believe Sony would just up and ditch core gamers like Nintendo did after building up such a huge library of hardcore games this generation. Also they are taking core gaming even further with the Vita, why wouldn't they with the PS4? Seems counter productive in my opinion.

I wouldn't read too much into what this guy is saying at the moment. SCEE isn't Sony Japan who seems to call of most the shots.

The Doom
The Doom
9 years ago

Right. The PSVita is obviously geared towards the hardcore. Why would Sony suddenly make the PS4 for the non-gamers?

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

Agreed with both, I don't see this happening.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

Neither do I. PSvita is still aimed at the hardcore.

Vita and PS4 would go hand in hand, so why make the PS4 for casuals in that case?

SayWord
SayWord
9 years ago

Haha was thinking the exact same thing.

Dreno
Dreno
9 years ago

I really hope sony does not make the ps4 with casual gamers as its root. Kee doing what your doing sony, make the ps4 bigger, faster and stronger.

If you want to apeal more to casual gamers, just sign with game devs that make game for the casual gamers. Use the games to bring them in, not the console.

Besides if they fall in love with the games with them in mind, than they will fall in love with the console, possibly change game preferance and try some harder games. Thus becomming part of the hardcore gamer type. Well it won't be THAT easy, but it shouldn't be too much more than that either.

If sony turns casual gamers into more hardcore gamers, that's an even bigger, faithful fan base for the future.

Please sony, PLEASE DO NOT GO the way of nintendo. Stay true to your roots of awesomeness.

Fabi
Fabi
9 years ago

Cool Avatar.

SolidFantasy
SolidFantasy
9 years ago

This doesn't sound like Sony at all. I hope they don't leave the us hard core gamers behind. They wouldn't do that? Would they? With Sony out of the hard core market what are the hard core developers to do?

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I'm hoping this guy is just an outlier in the company and is speaking without knowing what the hell he is talking about. I didn't see any evidence of Sony veering towards casual gamers at this years E3. With all the time, effort and money Sony has put into this generation trying to wow core gamers, it just doesn't make any sense that they would ditch us for Nintendo's market. I love the Wii but as Ben said, it lacks lasting power and Sony would be making a huge mistake if they went this route.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

The guy is one of several VPs in SCEE and has specific responsibility as the CEO of SCEE in Spain and Portugal. I'm not going to call him an outlier, but he's not the European head honcho, marketing head honcho, nor does he represent SCEA, SCEI, SCEJ or SCE corporate. Nor is he involved in the hardware development at Sony corporate. So, while he has an important job, his focus is on selling products to as many people as possible in Europe, and in particular Spain and Portugal.

LittleBigMidget
LittleBigMidget
9 years ago

If this is true then the PS4 = no buy

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

And ditch a PS4 Uncharted or Killzone?!?! Are you nuts?!?!?

Danny007
Danny007
9 years ago

The way I see it, the point of making a new console is so you can provide bigger and better looking games. If Sony isn't planning on toping the PS3's power in the best way possible I don't see the need to make a new console.

Anyways, I'm sick of all these PS4 rumors. I'm EXTREMELY happy with my PS3.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

Agreed.

PS3 is only just hitting its stride now while the other consoles were tapped out years ago.

PS4 just needs to be like the PS3, just a bit faster and with an updated graphics card.

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

Dance,

You're saying exactly what Armstrong did.

I want more than a small step. Supercharge that mofo, just like the Vita.

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

indeed lets remember that. but i will say if thats the route sony decides to take then it'll likely be the day i jump off the good ship playstation. & it hurts me to say that i've been a proud member of the playstation community sense MGS1 back in 98. i love playstation. but i'm a hardcore gamer though & though. i likes my epic hardcore 30 hour GTA & assassin creed games.


Last edited by TheCanadianGuy on 6/19/2011 10:10:50 PM

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

It ain't gonna change Canadian Guy.

Assassin's Creed and MGS, Uncharted and Killzone will all be there for the PS4, it'll just have to share a little more shelf space with the cheaper casual games and Move party games.

Kids and adults alike loved the PS2. I say it's time we bring that love back with the PS4.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

No need to overblow this statement. I think he's just saying that the graphical leap won't be as huge (which is fair because how much better can it get without costing too much?) and that the platform will expand to include the casual market from the outset instead of trying to integrate it later on. Think of a broader scope that includes hardcore and casual but not a refocus.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Exactly.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

World, you took the words right out of my mouth. Perfect.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

We can say that.

But when's the last time you heard Sony say they want to target anybody BUT gamers? When's the last time you heard them target women? That's what's bugging me.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Ben, the last time was when they announced the Move.

Claire C
Claire C
9 years ago

I'm not even sure what 'Targeting' women even means.. hee hee

DON'T SHOOT!!!!!!!

XD


Last edited by Claire C on 6/20/2011 12:36:52 AM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

That's an accessory. And they actually made a very similar announcement with the Eye years before.

When it comes to hardware, we haven't heard any evidence in thousands of interviews for three generations that the next PlayStation would try to "expand" beyond the core gamer demographic.


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 6/20/2011 12:50:14 AM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Perhaps Sony can no longer afford to ignore this demographic. It costs a lot of money to make top tier hardcore games. Even a fraction of the sales Nintendo got with their buckets of crappy and cheaply made games would probably help Sony fund their 1st party studios.

I think they smell blood in the water with the Wii U too. I'm no analyst, but I don't see it taking off like the Wii did.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Bingo.

This is less about the hardware than it is about the software and marketing. If it was anything else other than increasing the emphasis on more mainstream gamers, it would fly in the face of just about the entire E3 presentation by Jack Tretton and Kaz Hirai.

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

@ Claire

You got an LOL from me again the second time I read your comment. Kudos.


Last edited by Fane1024 on 6/20/2011 8:21:24 PM

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

I'm with Dreno,
make some of the game casual, not the console.

No more than 25% of the games, and PLEASE, PLEASE, never bundle a mic with the console, cause I don't want my beloved console infected with juvenile-acting smack-talkers, racists & other assorted A-hole, just like that other machine's infection.

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

you can always mute people. i would love for sony to pack a mic, and add cross game chat. match the competition feature for feature. plus, i just find that online sessions with mics are more lively. no mic is almost like playing with bots. there's no way to communicate with your team mates in most games. the side that had mics is at great advantage. you should see how fast a side with mics vs a side without dominates on kz3. most people on psn are pretty nice, and i learned a lot from my fellow gamers. i'm glad i've never ran into any rascist people. the worst i encountered was some guy picking on a girl that beat him by getting more kills. to my surprise he got voted out of the match.