We've said several times that various reports about the PlayStation Network outage cannot be trusted. Now, Sony is saying the same thing.

Several days ago, Bloomberg reported a date for the full restart PSN services: May 31. This caused the Internet to erupt in a series of false assumptions and yet another round of Sony hatred, but not only were the words "full restart" and "unchanged" ignored, but there was another problem. The information wasn't accurate. According to Sony Sr. Director of Corporate Communications, Patrick Seybold, there is no such date in place. As of now, there is no new information pointing towards a delay and the confusion came in the Bloomberg interpretation of Sony spokesman Shigenori Yoshida's words.

It seems he said the company's goal was to "restore the service in May," which prompted Bloomberg to put a May 31 date in their headline. Hence, it was widely thought to be a deadline, and some erroneously began to believe nothing – not even online play – would be up and running until the last day of the month. While it's true that it's taking a little longer than initially estimated, any articles proclaiming May 31 to be of any real relevance are incorrect. As Seybold said:

"I agree. Trying to clean it all up now."

Gotta love headline writing for the sake of attention.

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Lord carlos
Lord carlos
9 years ago

I've gone cold turkey & won!
Wow the sun is really bright and the sky is blue!
Hmm…think i might go outside……

Darwin1967
Darwin1967
9 years ago

What's a sun, is it still nice and warm?? I live in Seattle…I've yet to see the sun this year.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

You mean "outSIDE" outside? Never.

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
9 years ago

Darwin:
Yes the sun is still warm,summer time here in dublin.
World:
yep outSIDE outside…fresh air,lambs leaping in the meadow's..,that sort of thing!!

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

Give those lambs a PS3, then they shall finally be silenced.

😛

___________
___________
9 years ago

what sun?
its freaking 10 degrees at 1 in the freaking arvo!
and were in Autumn!
winter that weather would be crazy, but in Autumn?

Jackyl
Jackyl
9 years ago

Darwin1967:
Aw, come on now. We've had plenty of sun up here. Take today for example. Luckily I have a nice big window while I play my online games on Steam in absence of the PSN.

marcusfrommo
marcusfrommo
9 years ago

Huh, what? So you have no set date?

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

*sigh*

Has no one ever heard of an internal target date? You set goals and targets ahead of time and refine them as you go. Those are internal to the organization and do not relate to customer facing dates or goals. Even if there was an internal target of May 31st, it's simply a notional target for the teams working the problem. It's not a date for customers. If there was a date for customers, Seybold would have communicated it already.

What's so hard to understand about that?

All of that said, since we are now entering the fourth week of the outage. Gamers have show more than extraordinary patience, and we do deserve some more information. I think that Sony needs to move heaven and earth to give some solid estimates about actual restoration of online play. Even if they cannot be specific about the store and other commerce aspects of PSN, gamers need to know when online play will be restored.

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
9 years ago

I agree, I hate turning my Ps3 almost everyday on just to see if PSN is up and running up again. I kinda just gave up now. Hopefully we all keep our patience just a little longer because it is running short. I feel Sony will give us some answers in the next couple of days, I just feel it. Hang in there people!

BTW, I hope you find that link to deactivating a dead PS3 after PSN is up. I will greatly appreciate it!


Last edited by Killa Tequilla on 5/10/2011 10:06:20 AM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

@Killa,

Oh, I completely agree. I've kind of given up on turning the PS3 on and hoping for PSN to be available. I'm sticking to the PSP games I need to finish for right now. It's sad really, the knowledge that PSN is still down is like a thorn in my side. It actually detracts from my enjoyment of my games on the PS3. which is why my PSP is getting all the love.

Regarding the story in general….

This is an interesting quote from Seybold regarding the supposed third attack that CNet broke the news of and then claimed credit for averting; “There is no accuracy to that report. We’re focused on ensuring the security of the network before bringing the services back online.”

Some have suggested that Cnet has sufficient reason and links to Microsoft to have an inherent reason for bias against Sony, and that they are therefore spreading the usual FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt), which is a classic tactic used in the business world. I have to say that considering the nature of the rebuild Sony is undertaking, and the possible reasons for anti-Sony spin from that particular source, I have to wonder about their credibility with respect to anything Sony these days.

Either way, it seems that there is some kind of anarchic civil war erupting inside 'Anonymous' right now, and that some elements of that loose group of nut-jobs may have taken actions that go beyond the rather less illegal, but still annoying, DDOS protest attacks. Perhaps not a surprise since an attack of this nature, if it involved Anonymous in any way, directly or indirectly, is certain to earn Anonymous members the close attention of various law enforcement and security agencies. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch if you ask me.

Either way, this story has more twists than a plate of fusilli.


Last edited by TheHighlander on 5/10/2011 10:11:07 AM

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
9 years ago

@highlander, The last time I remember reading something more than once to 100% comprehend what I'm reading is at school!

This is just my opinion of course, I think the responsible intruders that brought down the Playstation Network is Anonymous. I have almost no doubts. I mean… If I robbed a bank and cost millions of damage, I certainly wouldn't want to tell the world it was me.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

LOL! Sorry, I hadn't taken my pills when I wrote that.

😉

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

I blame Sony's lack of information on the internet gaming community. Certain websites are nothing but the National Enquirer or some type of experts in fishing.

Sure, the supporters of Sony deserve a date, but unfortunately if the date was not met, there would be internet backlash everywhere.

I am with Sony on this one in saying "soon".

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
9 years ago

@maxpontiac now that I think about it, even if Sony game us more information on when PSN will be restored, that doesn't change how long we will have to wait for it to be up.

Let's say today they told us it will be up in 2 days we will have to wait 2 days.

Let's say they didn't say in two days today, we will still have to wait two days.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

Killa Tequilla

Excellent points, and it's why I am not excited over it. Sure, I want to play SOCOM 4 online, but oh well.

I am actually glad this happened. I rediscovered why I like games, and that's the alone time and story modes.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

FUD indeed. I don't even think MS is pushing people to do it. I think most of these sites are doing it willingly because that's just how biased they are. Especially CNET. PCWorld too. They have been writing some of the most misleading headlines I have ever seen as well as defending Anonymous with really no evidence to support their defense except what Anonymous tells them.

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
9 years ago

Said Sony themselves at the Ps Blog.

May 10th
"I know you all want to know exactly when the services will be restored. At this time, I can’t give you an exact date, as it will likely be at least a few more days. We’re terribly sorry for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience as we work through this process."

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

Killa and Max make a good point, but it's always a bad idea to let a deadline, even an approximate or perceived deadline, expire without first providing new information. Sony has done so a few times so far.

Control the message and you will control the expectations. Be silent and expect all to run amok.


Last edited by Fane1024 on 5/10/2011 7:31:18 PM

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

Highlander,
Yeah, posted about the Anon hack last night on another thread, but it's all good that "what comes around goes around", so here it is again for all those that didn't see it….

Anon's servers get hacked by one of it's own

The hacker's hacked: Main Anonymous IRC servers invaded

War rages between competing factions within the hacker collective Anonymous after this weekend's drama-filled takeover of the main Anonymous IRC server network. That network, used by Anons to plan and conduct attacks, was taken over by one of its own, an IRC moderator known as "Ryan."

His attack has sparked a debate over the "leadership" of Anonymous.

Read the full article here:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/05/the-hackers-hacked-main-anonymous-irc-servers-seized.ars

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

I read that biker, isn't it fun to see the cockroaches scurrying around because one or two of their number were stupid enough to be seen when the kitchen light was turned on? Now the householder has called in the exterminators… and they're all doomed.

Kind of ironic that the hackers get hacked by hackers best described as their own compatriots, and then describe the hacked sites as compromised and dangerous.

Just like the cockroaches, I'm not sure that anonymous has a real leadership, so how they struggle about it I don't know. Perhaps the leadership is whoever is in control of the communication channel that the media recognize as 'Anonymous'?

Anonymous also remind me of the Locust. Locusts are not an issue when they appear in small numbers and do not swarm. In that state they are little more than annoyingly large grass-hoppers. However when Locusts swarm, they undergo physiological changes becoming much larger and more destructive. They develop rapacious appetites and move as a group across the land devouring all vegetation in their path. In small numbers, Locusts don't even count as a pest, in large numbers they can become a nuisance, and even transition into a swarm. When that happens, they are downright dangerous.

Anonymous is little more than a nuisance when they are in their usual mode of occasional civil disobedience, with low level DDOS attacks. Every now and again their numbers grow and they are behind some more dangerous stunts like hacking into a law firm's systems for information. In this case it seems that their numbers grew to such an extent that a 'swarm mentality' took hold. Even a high impact DDOS attack was insufficient. Some of the members of the swarm went further, and now that has happened, those affected are bringing in some flame throwers and pest control and the swarm doesn't like it. But, just like the Locust swarm, Anonymous has no real control over where it goes now. Parts of the swarm may be destroyed, parts may splinter off and disappear, and other parts may simply run out of things to eat and be stomped out.

I can't say I'm upset that they finally garnered some negative coverage in the media either.


Last edited by TheHighlander on 5/11/2011 10:04:02 AM

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

Yeah, I love how they've suddenly imploded from the middle.

And with the FBI, Homeland Security & all those other 3-lettered agencies on the case, I'm sure it's scaring at least some of their loosly organized members away from hacking for a while, & into hiding where so they are no longer a factor.

Let's hope the LEO agency's can capture all of them involved in Sony's hack, & them put a serious smack-down on all their a$$es, and not just another that tap on the butt like geohotz got.

shootu
shootu
9 years ago

According to the PSN website they wrote it will be at least another couple days…. That was on the 10th. All our shit is probably gone and they are stalling so they ca try to retrieve it. They must be using Microsoft software. Should of brought Mac on board when making PSN…

PorkChopGamer
PorkChopGamer
9 years ago

Now we can add Bloomberg to the long list of news organizations on Microsoft's payroll. The Byzantine web of deceit continues…

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

MS bought SKYPE, I'm afeared they will listen in now :O

helgso
helgso
9 years ago

Thank god I'm an Icelander, that way they won't understand my conversations in Skype.

Lairfan
Lairfan
9 years ago

Even though some people do act like M$ is behind everything on this site, you have to admit, PorkChop, that Bloomberg's headlines about this topic were misleading.


Last edited by Lairfan on 5/10/2011 7:53:13 PM

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

I, for one, always give a thumbs-up to M$ conspiracy comments because:

1) they're funny
2) they contain a germ of truth
3) that's why they're funny

I will, however, give a thumbs-down (or even challenge via a comment) to statements about M$ or the 360 which are simply untrue / erroneous.


Last edited by Fane1024 on 5/11/2011 5:38:24 PM

Darwin1967
Darwin1967
9 years ago

well, at least there's one good thing about the May 31st deadline rumor….if Sony gets online gaming up before then, everyone will be THRILLED that they actually got it up faster than their 'estimated' deadline. Thus the masses will be appeased.

FatherSun
FatherSun
9 years ago

The masses can never be appeased!

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

This is the one reason I stick to PSXextreme for my PS3 news. No stupid sensationalized news stories, a smart community who don't jump to conclusions based on assumptions and all news is displayed at either a neutral or PSXextreme community viewpoint.

And let's face it. Without Ben, Arnold and Highlander to set things straight, we would have to face those dumb masses on a daily basis when getting our gaming news.

As for this article, I think I speak for everyone when I say, "Well, DUUUHH!!!"

We knew from the beginning that PSN restoration wasn't going to come back all at once suddenly on the 31st. It was a steady roll out starting soon, geez guys, just be patient!! Sony have given us a tonne of great single player games, now is your best chance to explore them!!

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

The articles at PSX brought me here, and the community keeps me here.

Wissam
Wissam
9 years ago

PSXextreme = The most mature gaming community ever.

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

At This Point I Just Don't Give A Rats You Know What Anymore. As Of Next Tuesday All I'll Be Playin For The Next 40 Days Or So Will Be LA Noire & inFamous 2!. Both SP Games. As Long As Its Up By November 1st. You All Know What That Day Is!

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
9 years ago

What's November 1st?

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Uncharted 3 day.

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
9 years ago

😛 I wasn't thinking straight

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

Yup Yup National Uncharted 3 Day! The Day 77Million People Across The Globe Call In "Sick" "coughs" "coughs"

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Oh, that's a good point. I shall arrange a day off for that purpose…no, seriously, perhaps I'll make it two.

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

Oh Why Not 3! 🙂

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

My wife is due the last week of October…

I'm predetermining myself to be late to the Uncharted 3 party…

*cries*

*sniff* what? *sniff* priorities you ask? uh…

what?!!? It's Uncharted 3!!! If it's a boy and born on November 1st, I'll take a picture and introduce you all to baby Nathan Drake Howlett.

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

Lol & You Should Take A Pic Of Him With Your Copy Of The Game ;D BTW Is That You & Your Wife In Your Avatar ?

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

lol show off both of my new babies. lol :p

And yeah, that's me an' the missus!

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

If you name you kid Nathan Drake, and I assume your last name is Howlett, I'll give you a dollar. I just assumed you were joking though. So if your not that's awesome and you'll still get a dollar! 😉

TheCanadianGuy
TheCanadianGuy
9 years ago

Haha & if Its A Girl Name Her Elena. xD


Last edited by TheCanadianGuy on 5/10/2011 3:43:36 PM

tdenny
tdenny
9 years ago

i would like to start by saying thanks everyone at PSXextreme if not for you guy's a lot of us would be in the dark, waiting for some tiny piece news from a blog that doesnt really keep you informed…….THANKS

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

So it might take longer? Just do it before E3 or there will be … issues.

marcusfrommo
marcusfrommo
9 years ago

Highlander, I do realize that there's no set date. But to announce one one week after the other, then have no comment for a set date. Rumors or reports that the system will be up and running at or by may 31, to a no set date is disturbing.

Not to mention at this point, I'd rather have everything on at once, instead of a few free games, friends list, and no ps store.

With all do respect, it must be huge pain in the butt for them, considering e3 is less than 30 days away. I know it's possible, but how can they have an e3 without the network being up? Aren't we up at 4 weeks now after this week, or is it 5?

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

This is week 4 now. that's why I said;

…we are now entering the fourth week of the outage. Gamers have show more than extraordinary patience, and we do deserve some more information. I think that Sony needs to move heaven and earth to give some solid estimates about actual restoration of online play. Even if they cannot be specific about the store and other commerce aspects of PSN, gamers need to know when online play will be restored.

Darwin1967
Darwin1967
9 years ago

E3 will be a sad, sad, saaaad event if they don't have their network up and running bug free by then. Keep in mind, they wanted us to be fully entrenched in Free-Realms and marveling at the latest and greatest HOME update..all of which consumers have yet to really see. E3 will DEFINATELY be a need to watch event where Sony is concerned….I wanna see how they plan to dig out of this fiasco. I'm rooting for them!!