Despite this mess, it appears most PSN users will continue to place their faith in Sony.

While it's plain that we are a PlayStation-oriented site, we have a great many readers who remained educated and opinionated on the subject; this isn't about blind loyalty.

It seems most are discerning and are capable of discarding the sensationalistic headlines and inaccurate, panic-inducing articles from so-called "journalists" who only sought to nab some extra traffic. We've tried to keep you updated and informed on a daily basis; we told you as soon as Sony confirmed a security breach, and we called out Sony for staying quiet for too long. But we did what we could to filter out the stupidity and as a result, educated PSN followers appear ready and willing to return to the Network.

This week, we want to contrast that data with the amount of time you normally spend on the Network (playing games, Store, Netflix, Qriocity, etc.). In other words, this will give us a better idea of how forgiving you are: if you only play a couple hours per week on the PSN, it's easier to forgive Sony, isn't it? If you're really suffering from online deprivation, though, can you still be patient and return to the Network without any grudges? What do you say?

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psxmax
psxmax
9 years ago

I can't complain, because it is free.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

Greatest thing ive heard all day!

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
9 years ago

I pay for Plus…

That isn't FREE and I'm hoping any rewards given to PSN members once the service comes back isn't the same across the board.

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

Limited

I have plus also and in one of the ps blogs sony said that plus memberships would be extended for as many days as the service is down.

So even if we get the same perks as everyone else we're not losing anything either.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

*sigh* It's not free… We all pay for psn through the licencing of everything else ps3 we buy.


Last edited by Beamboom on 5/9/2011 4:19:09 AM

Godslim
Godslim
9 years ago

Beamboom is right hehe

D1g1tal5torm
D1g1tal5torm
9 years ago

we're losing online time now, I see that as a loss.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

Oh man technicalities. Lifes a B!%$*

PSPlus members still do not pay to play. What you pay for is access to free games, cheaper discounts, early betas, demos, etc… You are not paying to play. Ok if you want to get technical, about purchases that's fine, but it is free to play regardless. If you never bought one thing off PSN, you would never spend a dime to play. Outside of what you bought the system for of course… Seems free to me. But what do I know?

Also as kraygen said your plus memberships will be extended.


Last edited by bigrailer19 on 5/9/2011 10:13:43 AM

DazeOfWar
DazeOfWar
9 years ago

I put between 8 to 14 hours but now that I think about it I actually use it more than 15 hours. I use netflix, shop the store quite a bit, and play online.

I can't wait to be able to sync my trophies again to see how much I've gone up. I'm so close to adding a third plat since PSN has been down.

Sancho
Sancho
9 years ago

I'm sooo ready for it to be back, but I can be plenty patient still. Ready to upload an onslaught of trophies to the servers 🙂 That and I have a few friends on PSN I can't contact any other way and miss chatting with my gaming buddies. Outside of that I personally haven't been that upset about it other than the ignorant and poorly (if at all) researched articles on other sites.

This site is the only place I feel I can come for a professional journalist insight. I use to go to Kotaku alot as they are quick to leech others' stories for me to link back to them, but I can't stand the garbage spewing from them as of late. They even had an article recently comparing the PSN outage to MS's RROD fiasco. In the end they were referencing the cost to the company itself however through out the article they were merely using it as a means to bash Sony. Obviously the two are incomparable in terms of anything but the cost to compensate for the trouble of the ordeal and shouldn't even be mentioned.

Its been a while since I've posted on this site until the Thor review so I'm probably back to comment instead of just reading Highlanders awesome posts.

So sorry if I seem like some random guy.

DirtySkillzHD
DirtySkillzHD
9 years ago

I won't hold any "grudge" against the PSN. I just miss playing FIFA 11 with my buddies.I miss a little gta 4 ALL night until the sun comes up. But what does worry me is the fact that when the psn IS up, the games that we play online will have half , or maybe even less than half of the online players it had before this mess. Games as old as GTA IV will probably have no online users at all. I just hope this is not the case , or it will ruin alot of my online games experiences


Last edited by DirtySkillzHD on 5/8/2011 10:08:54 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

It'll build back up, I doubt half of all online players decided to go pay for Live.

lostsong222
lostsong222
9 years ago

I'm actually holding a pretty decent grudge against this. Because it's required to sign into the PSN in order to use your netflix account and watch a movie, I haven't been able to use it for quite some time now.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

You can log in to Netflix on any web browser, so you can access Netflix from any other web device. Also, you don't need your PSN account for web access from your PS3. I don't use Netflix, but I was under the impression that once you get your PS3 past the failed logon, you can still kick the browser into action and access things – including Netflix.

lostsong222
lostsong222
9 years ago

I actually signed up for the netflix stream only account just for the PS3 use for my kids through my TV. I don't want to watch it through a computer and the PS3 shows it well. When I use the netflix app, all it does is repeatedly ask me to sign in and won't let me watch movies.

Sancho
Sancho
9 years ago

Whenever you start Netflix and it asks for the login go ahead and try, then you get the maintenance message you just press o and it asks you to log in again and press o again after you get the message a second time and you should be good to go. It took a couple tries the first day to figure it out, but thats been about 60% of my ps3 usage since the outage.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Hmm…Have you googled the problem, I've read numerous comments by people who said that they were able to get their PS3 to access Netflix despite that issue. I don't have Netflix myself so I can't test it, otherwise I would to see if I could offer any further advice.

PANICinc
PANICinc
9 years ago

Oh man, I feel for ya!
This is the "trick" to get into NetFlix without PSN.
Go in as you normally would, let the PSN sign-in fail 2- 3 times while NetFlix is loading. And you're set!

Been working for me and my friends this whole time. A bit annoying, but it works.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Thanks, I knew someone would have the right advice around here, it's that kind of community.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

lostsong222,

I say lets put the blame squarely where it belongs….

with the "HACKERS".


Last edited by BikerSaint on 5/8/2011 10:23:01 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Yup, Netflix works for me with that trick too.

lostsong222
lostsong222
9 years ago

AHHAHAHAHA! You are correct! I can turn on netflix again! Thank you for that. I had been told it wasn't working.

Bikersaint,

I agree for the most part, however, there is a part of me that remembers that locks only keep honest people honest, and anyone that isn't willing to encrypt all of their data is asking for some schmuck to come and get it. Long have I shaken a fist at all of the hackers and virus creators and malware and spyware, but even I know if you're smart and take precautions, you can avoid it.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

Lost –

I disagree. If a thief wants in your house, computer or car, they'll get in no matter how many locks or alarm systems they have.

hellish_devil
hellish_devil
9 years ago

Unfortunately for me, a person who doesn't do much MP, I felt the urge to play BlazBlue and Motorstorm online JUST when this happens. And I haven´t played MP in lke 5 months before this.

Anyway, I beated Dead Space, got to chapter 7 on Ninja Gaiden Sigma (it is REALLY hard) and I´m about to beat Ratchet&Clank: A Crack in Time.


Last edited by hellish_devil on 5/8/2011 10:15:57 PM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

I'll just be glad to have PSN back so we can get back to talking about games and gaming and I can stop being annoyed by the awful technical analysis and journalism surrounding all of this.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

I only used the PSN to check out new trailers, & demos.

But then there was that once upon a time that I put in 66 hours in the KZ3 MP the first two weeks it was out.

Since I'm now suddenly in the unemployment line
it's going to take a long while to get another PS3(barring my USPS insurance claim), but I'd still like to see the PSN up & running with their new & improved Fort Knox sized security.

It would be like giving the ultimate middle finger to all the nay-sayers.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Here's to hoping for that USPS insurance to get you back to your gaming. I'm also wondering whether the Csinos where you are might be in more of a hiring mood since the casinos in the Mississippi valley are out of action for an extended period thanks to historic flooding. Their patrons may go elsewhere and boost business in other gaming centers.

Sancho
Sancho
9 years ago

Well my dad use to be the vice president of the Union for the mid-west area of the post office until he went to prison. Otherwise I'd ask him for some tips to get that to go through faster for you.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

TheHighlander,

Thanks, my local postmaster told me it takes at the very least, 2 months to go through the claim procedure. And with the recent string of bad luck I've been having lately(just found one of my Harley's 2 front brake rotors is cracked straight through), I can almost see the USPS denying my claim & then I'm forced to go through their appeals process & I have no idea how long that one takes, or if they'll finally pay for me to pick up a refurbed 60 gigger.

Anyway, about the casino's….Nahhh, those Mississippi casino's have very little bearing on Atlantic City as a destination market.

What's killing us besides the economy, is that the big populous state of Pennsylvania has gotten full fledged casino's.

But casino's have always screwed their employees regardless, even in the best of times,
and since Trump up his 3 casino's here, the bondholders have gotten it through the courts after a fight for them by Carl Icahn.
But Icahn was smart, he just turned around & bought all the loan notes on the 3 Trump properties, so if they can't make just one of the bond payments, then he'll call in the notes & get possession anyway. (and I'm sure he's do his own 10% cut of staff too)

And so the bondholders have gone crazy chopping everybody & everything ever since. They started a completely unexpected second round of chops yesterday with dozens of employees getting the boot, and even I was caught in this one. And as the longest running employee at the Taj Mahal, that automatically put a big fat target on my back).

These guys are effing crazy, this is the time that we always gear up for the summer season & hire extra help, now that the Memorial Day weekend is close in hand and we're already seriously short-handed.

But we(the fired employees) all see what they're really up to…..they're saying that they're eliminating our positions, because they're not needed but in 2-3 weeks they'll create those same exact positions as new ones filled with cheap seasonal help, & without benefits. Hell, we're already at about 85% Asian workers(mostly Chinese) in the Atlantic City casino's already.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Yeah, a lot of employers do that to avoid benefits. IBM has a practice of keeping certain contracts to just under the term length to entitle the employee to employer benefits, and then, their contract is not renewed – of course. IBM then rehires others to the same roles and the cycle begins anew, and you know they are not the only ones doing it.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

Sancho, Thanks!

Sorry to hear about your dad, but at least we both know he couldn't be the that package-bungling gorilla who I'd like to exact the same revenge on, LOL

Anyway, my local postmaster gave me the number for the New Jersey State Consumer Affairs Office, if I don't get the full satisfaction that I deserve.

So it's going to be a looooooong damned "wait & see" period for me.

Sancho
Sancho
9 years ago

Its all good he needs to be there lol. We weren't on great terms before he got into trouble so thats all on him. Its just a shame we don't talk so I can't help you out.

SayWord
SayWord
9 years ago

I use psn for modnation racers (its like cod to me) and netflix. I've been using this down time to platinum yakuza 4. 🙂

BIGRED15
BIGRED15
9 years ago

if u have a ps3… yea u REALLY dont need online. Im even more patient now then ever since I preorderd infamous 2. Got the 1st infamous platinum, and now im debating on going back to DS2 and DS1 or working on medal of honor trophies. Either way, all i gotta do is wait a month for a new game. Not a big deal to me if i dont get online back within the week, hell the month even. As far as grudges go… haha yea, like thats possible. Ive been using the playstation since 2001 so im kind of in for the long haul. I was proactive (unlike a lot of other people) by protecting myself and keeping my credit info safe after all if you are going to put your personal info online, its your responsibility to know the risk involved. Sony is far from being at fault here. Hackers can basically do whatever they want. Sony sued geohot for good reason and hackers are just a bunch of useless anarchists so the fact that there was hacker backlash is pretty unsuprising.

In other news, I went to gamestop, talked to the guy over the counter and had to correct his information on the psn hack about three times, so yea, its good to stay educated on the matter.

To sum it up… no real grudges here.

FM23
FM23
9 years ago

The PSN is free so anyone holding grudge is ungrateful and also really needs some hobbies outside of gaming. I only use PSN for KZ3 and I grew tired of that game a long time ago, but when I do get bored…I like to pop in some KZ3 and hopefully I can play this week. If not, I could careless. Funny thing is, I know alot of casual gamers who just think PSN is down just to be down and not sure why. Seriously, people could care less. It's the nerds who have no life and rape PS forums who are pissed PSN is down. Them and excited Xbox 360 fanboys of course. Hopes its on this week though and I feel sorry for the people who actually bought MP games during this time like Socom, etc.

Sancho
Sancho
9 years ago

Exactly, and some people even EXPECT to be compensated for the downtime. All I want is my dynamic theme that reads "I survived the PSN blackout of 2011"… and thats just for good humor. The only thing I want is the time my DCU is wasting away for and not even the extra 30 days they're going to toss my way. That Batman inspired helmet we're getting looks [email protected] though.

lostsong222
lostsong222
9 years ago

Well hold on there, I would like to point out that yes, access to PSN is free, but they make their profit in game sales and advertisements. If you're going to call a spade a spade, they make money hand over fist with PSN. That being said, they are losing money right now with it down, but don't go on the note that PSN is some "charity because they are being nice" sort of kick. That's like saying Android is cool cause you can find free apps or Apple is cool cause iPhone has a free app store.

FM23
FM23
9 years ago

@lostsong

yeah, but I didn't mention anything about Sony losing money, just the nerds who find this so annoying and/or exciting. Yeah Sony is losing money, but then again…

dkmrules
dkmrules
9 years ago

I'm not holding a grudge because it wasnt sony's goddamn fault. They were hacked and imho they covered their asses appropriately. I'm not going to lie i am never going to input my credit card again but im still going to enjoy the psn to its fullest.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Want to know who's online systems are the most secure? Look for the large networks that were recently hacked because you can be *extremly* sure that their security will be as close to 100% as humanly possible when they come back.

However, I'd definitely suggest being careful with CC or debit card information online, not just with PSN.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

At least we know your credit card info was always safe.

Looking Glass
Looking Glass
9 years ago

You got it Highlander. The funny thing about all this is that it actually makes Sony more trustworthy, not less.


Last edited by Looking Glass on 5/9/2011 7:11:02 AM

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
9 years ago

PSN cards is the best way to go on the PSN.
As always with CC, just don't leave ur CC info online all the time.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 5/9/2011 9:24:57 AM

Milonakis
Milonakis
9 years ago

Just as a side note netflix still works just fine

chefphoenix
chefphoenix
9 years ago

I've been a Playstion user since the PS1 and I own all 3 PS's…I'm not holding a grudge or even thinking about going to the RROD box (Xbox). Yes…it would be nice to play some multiplayer online but I can think of a hundred things to do in the mean time. As far as Xbox fanboys are concered…um yea…they think PSN is dead and wont come back for a long time, but in the end, when the new PSN comes back better than ever ( always been better the XBL) they'll jump ship saying how great it is. The one thing that makes me mad is all the PSN users who say they are selling their PS3's to get a 360 yet they still post on the PSN blog…if your gonna go…good bye…you are the weakest link! I say good luck with that..and when you get the RROD 2 weeks into owning it dont be surprised that Microsoft won't replace it…just know this…you'll be back to using the great PS3 and PSN!!!

chefphoenix
chefphoenix
9 years ago

just a side note….cant wait to play SOCOM 4 online!!! and test out the new move controllers!!!

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I just miss trading messages with my friends list people, aside from that I use PSN for netflix which works fine anyway. I'm considering trying some multiplayer game modes at some point probably over the summer cuz I don't see much after inFamous 2 and Alice Madness Returns until the holidays. So July could be wide open.

dlloyd0102
dlloyd0102
9 years ago

This whole thing has forced me to beat MOH:Fronline on hard for that Plat, beat Bulletstorm sp, beat Portal 2 sp, beat Resistance 2 on Superhuman, get the tomahawk challenges on RDR, and go for(and still going for) Dead Space 2 HC mode. All that plus work, school, and 3 kids has kept my mind off of it. Otherwise, I'm sure I would be pulling out what little hair I have left. Either way, my support is behind Sony all the way. Take your time and do it right. One long outage is better than constant outages.


Last edited by dlloyd0102 on 5/8/2011 11:04:09 PM

ViolentSmiley
ViolentSmiley
9 years ago

I don't understand why a lot of people are being so impatient,its like they don't care about the security.I like that sony has they're priorities straight & isn't switching the servers on until they are 100% safe.

I do miss PSN,i met my girlfriend on uncharted 2 & though we talk on the phone we would use the chat functionality 99% of the time,so i miss that.

Being a gamer since the psone days i have no problem kicking back and enjoying good single player games,I've gotten like 3 platinums already and currently working on red dead redemptions.I do miss PSN but i don't mind waiting longer if it means a secure and safe network.

Sancho
Sancho
9 years ago

You still need any of the online trophies for the RDR plat? If so when PSN comes back up and you need somebody to level with or any of the other trophies I need a few of them.