There are a few things you need to know concerning the current PlayStation Network outage.

The first has already been revealed through various sources, including the PlayStation Blog , and that is the following- Sony is working "around the clock" to get the Network back up and running, and this quote from SCEA Sr. Director of Corporate Communications Patrick Seybold explains the need to "rebuild the system:"

"We sincerely regret that PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have been suspended, and we are working around the clock to bring them both back online. Our efforts to resolve this matter involve re-building our system to further strengthen our network infrastructure. Though this task is time-consuming, we decided it was worth the time necessary to provide the system with additional security."

The second involves the length of downtime. We're not sure if anyone bothered to call Sony, but when we did so, we were given an estimate: the PSN would be back by Tuesday evening at the earliest or next weekend at the latest. We have no doubt that Sony is working hard to get this resolved but to some, this downtime might be tough to follow.

As to all the indignation and widespread belief that we should be compensated for this temporary loss of the PSN, we're steering clear of that minefield.

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Zemus101
Zemus101
9 years ago

It's not bothering me too much. I'd rather they do it right than quickly. Even if it takes another week. I know that Sony is working as fast as they can, cuz the sooner it's up, the sooner we can start buying/playing things again.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

Me neither. Plenty of stuff out there to enjoy without the PSN..

The Doom
The Doom
9 years ago

I really gotta say I applaud Geohot. I really do. If it weren't for him messing around with the OtherOS, Sony would never had removed it in the first place. As such other hackers wouldn't have been so ambitious with 'attempts to bring back OtherOS' and trying to bring it a step further with homebrew. But hey, then those programs would NEVER had been followed by the jailbreaks, back ups, and root keys that haunted Sony and threaten their investment. Yeah. Then Sony wouldn't have tried to stop him from releasing the keys by bringing him to court (although I could've sworn that he said he'd quit hacking the thing…). If ONLY it NEVER had to come to that, then the Anonymous fagtivists wouldn't even have came into the spotlight, preach about giving me my 'freedom' (apparently we have two definitions of that word), and wouldn't have fu**ed with the network in the first place. Hell, I bet no one would even think about fu**ing with PSN. So I thank you Geohot for putting us on the road that would drive the PSN community to hell. That way if I ever get to meet him, I would reward him with a fist to his motherfu**ing face. ^^


Last edited by The Doom on 4/24/2011 9:36:08 PM

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Shouldn't you mean "you're appalled by Geohot". Not sure why he should be applauded.

thj_1980
thj_1980
9 years ago

Best thing to do if I was him was to do just for myself or maybe a group of close buddies. That's it that's all nothing for the public. Sure the fame is nice (well hackers love him we hate him) but it ruins things for eveybody.

Damn stupid smart people!!!!!!!!!

shadowscorpio
shadowscorpio
9 years ago

Doom

So funny how these crimimals were the cause of this by abusing Sony's infrastructure and because Sony's counters by removing programs and aspects of their services, the criminals b**ch that its not fair.

Like you said, the hackers caused it in the first place. Man, this gaming generation just keeps getting better and better. I hope, this proves to be a real lesson learned for the future generations by all fronts.


Last edited by shadowscorpio on 4/25/2011 2:33:06 AM

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

Jawknee, I think your sarcasm detector is on the fritz.

LittleBigMidget
LittleBigMidget
9 years ago

Well this sucks ass.

Mog
Mog
9 years ago

I just have to ask.

You guys know about the new feature for the Xbox were you can put foxtel on it?

Uhhh….am i the only person who thinks that is epic fail? I mean, why not just get it for your Television in the first place?

Unless i have completely misunderstood something

(my comment is meant to be under Ben Dutka's comment. Don't know why it appeared up here)


Last edited by Mog on 4/25/2011 2:44:49 AM

RadioHeader
RadioHeader
9 years ago

"Edit: Sorry to make it seem like you're all responding to LittleBigMidget. But you knew "AGradeGamer" had to go."

Ah, that explains it. I haven't really checked but I imagine the internet is awash with false claims of "switching to 3suxty & xboxlag". Stupid xbots with nothing better to do… If my PS3 grew arms and punched me in the face every hour of use I still wouldn't consider switching to M$. Been there, suffered that!

As for the outage. Weather-wise, it couldn't have happened at a better time for me. I've got a suntan, in April, IN ENGLAND 🙂

Edit: "(my comment is meant to be under Ben Dutka's comment. Don't know why it appeared up here)" Mine too, thanx gunblademaster.


Last edited by RadioHeader on 4/25/2011 4:05:54 AM

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
9 years ago

doubtful,xbox live was down for two week in 2008.
7 days is a walk in the park,hmm? sunny weather in dublin at the moment
i think beers in the park is a great idea instead of just walking 😛

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Anyone who trades in their PS3 over this doesn't deserve one in the first place.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Nonsense. Those who are that desperate to play online need their heads examined.

sonic1899
sonic1899
9 years ago

I agree with world. There's been times when XBL has been shutdown (despite people playing for it) and if anyone switches over based on this incident doesn't need one at all. Funny how when 360 has problems (RROD, XBL shut down, etc,), everything's cool, but if the PS3 has them, they threaten to switch.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I know right. When the 360 RROD's, Xbots go out and buy another one while they wait for their refurb to be returned. PSN goes down for a few days and suddenly it's gaming Armageddon.

I gotta say, the reaction to this from some in the Playstation community has been greatly disappointing. I really believed a majority of us were more mature and able to handle something like this. Too many are acting like this is the end of the world.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

Agradegamer,

No offense but what are you, like 8 with that comment????

Nobody's stupid enough to trade in their PS3 for a bot-box except another stupid Xbot who's already had 9 or more RROD's.

And at least a 1/3 of the time I sign in on my Elite Deluxe, I get the message that some 360 functions are down, but they're trying to fix it.

Sooooo, moral of the story is…..

M$ gives us next to nil info on their outages compared to Sony, and their constant mis-functions are least 10,000% more often.

Bloodysilence19
Bloodysilence19
9 years ago

they trade it they trade it, give it what month they will trade it again for another 360 and another, another. it shows what the gaming community has come to that alot of people rely on online to play games. i just dont get why dev make sp portion of the game anymore if people just want to play online only. i wonder how this generation of gamers could handle playing games back in the early 80's and 90's when online didn't exist in gaming really, games like street of rage, golden axe, super mario, crash bandicoot, original mk,zelda, ff, original dk, heck even duck hunt, they probably go i actually have to have skill now to play games o man!!!

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

Hmm…4 posts…all 4 promoting the 360.

…..it's just SO hard to spot the trolls. Really, it's mostly all luck.

Edit: Sorry to make it seem like you're all responding to LittleBigMidget. But you knew "AGradeGamer" had to go.


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 4/24/2011 11:58:43 PM

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Well, I have Xbox Live to satiate my online gaming needs. I guess it pays not to have all of your gaming eggs in one basket. But even then, even if I didn't have LIVE, I have a crap load of high quality single player games to fill the time. Heck, PSN could be down for a month, or two, and I'd be fine.

PorkChopGamer
PorkChopGamer
9 years ago

The second sentence is my favorite.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Indeed, that's why I have Wii, PSP and a DSi.

🙂

johnld
johnld
9 years ago

i'm keeping busy looking for souvenirs and intel in socom 4 and crysis 2. supersoldier run is almost done, i just walk past whole levels cloaked and it was pretty easy.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

Porkchop, no pun intended. Honest =p

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
9 years ago

Its free so i cant complain,although ps+ members might feel differently.

DazeOfWar
DazeOfWar
9 years ago

It doesn't bother me to much. I have plenty of games to play in the mean time. It does suck that it may be down until next weekend but oh well. There was some other games I wanted to buy but that can wait.

It sucks for Sony cause they are losing money with it down. Specially if it we might not see a store update this week. Hopefully everything is going good for the people working on it and it's up sooner before we know it.

As for people thinking they need to be compensated I think that is just ridiculous. I'm a Plus member and have in no way lost anything from PSN being down. I haven't lost out on any free games or discounts. I would think Sony would extend anything that people would have miss out on so they don't feel cheated. Anyways I hope the best for Sony.

swapnilgyani
swapnilgyani
9 years ago

I believe anybody who is paying for a time-based online service, such as PlayStation Plus or DC Universe Online, are entitled to some form of reimbursement. Most logically, this would be extending their membership duration by the number of downtime days.

For the rest of us, a more secure PSN which is still free is a good enough compensation!

All of this is, of course, assuming that the users' personal data has not been compromised in any way. If it has been, then we're opening a can of worms here!

Jed
Jed
9 years ago

Its good to hear an actual timeline. I'm not totally depressed with the network being down, but it is worrisome. I just hope Sony takes the right steps to deal with the b*stards that caused this, and be prepared for the next round of jerkoffs fighting for our "freedom" our whatever else they can come up with to justify the crap they cause.

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

If Sony had an actual time line, it would almost certainly appear on the Blog before it trickled down to the customer service drones.

jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
9 years ago

Damn, that blows. I was fine with it being out this past weekend because I was extremely busy with other things and the holiday but I was hoping to get my Socom MP gaming on this week. The SP is so far pretty lackluster, and I'm almost done with it. Hopefully this will be resolved by Tuesday or Wednesday. Lets get it, Sony!

And I'm hoping they let us know what happened and what they did to fix the problem after this gets resolved. Not necessarily blaming them for this, but they have not handled it the greatest so far with the initial silence and then vague explanations(I've read the other threads that Ben posted a few days ago, seems like I'm not the only one who thinks that way). I forget who said it, but a great company is usually defined by how they handle themselves when things are bad/going bad. We all know Sony was pimping out the first party titles and bragging/promoting their exclusives and upcoming exclusives, but hopefully they can be upfront with their customers when things got ugly with this PSN outage. Whatever, life keeps moving with or without PSN.


Last edited by jimmyhandsome on 4/24/2011 10:12:50 PM

Qwarktast1c
Qwarktast1c
9 years ago

while i think it sucks that the network is gonna be down for such a long time, i'm not too pissed since i've been playing the hell out of MK with my buddies for the past few days

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I'm not bothered by not being able to play online. I'm still playing Dissidia 2 and I have Portal 2 to finish, then I can start Socom 4's campaign, but I am worried about how deep this breach was. I read on Playstation Universe that these scum bag hackers got in the Admin Dev accounts and were able to access peoples credit card information. I'm not 100% that it's true but it would be a disaster for Sony if people lost confidence in their ability to keep our most personal information safe. That is the main reason I am pissed off. These people really need to be found and arrested. I saw in a news report that they arrested 5 Anonymous members in the UK over their hacking of MasterCard and Paypal and the FBI issued 40 arrest warrants here in the US to find the members that reside here. I hope the FBI nails every damn one of them and adds their harassment of Sony to their list of charges.

If you're interested in watching it just Youtube or Google FBI looking for Anonymous.


Last edited by Jawknee on 4/24/2011 10:17:51 PM

Qwarktast1c
Qwarktast1c
9 years ago

thats why i use the PSN cards instead of credit cards
(i don't use netflix or any service charge application)

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
9 years ago

"You asked for a miracle theo?"
"I give you the FBI"

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

I've said it before, but anyways; *If* they managed to get to our credit card info then it is a catastrophy that Sony never told any of us. I simply refuse to believe that until it is a proven fact, cause that would mean that none of us ever can trust Sony again.


Last edited by Beamboom on 4/25/2011 4:04:07 AM

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
9 years ago

@Qwarktast1c

"thats why i use the PSN cards instead of credit cards" That's exactly the smartest way to go.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 4/25/2011 11:17:51 AM

pillz81
pillz81
9 years ago

If I had their hacking ability I would track them down, and find a way to arrest them on child molestation charges. Then they'll be freed from the oppression of their heterosexuality. They will be open to more "open" sexual experiences. Heh. I'd like to see them hack their way out of a prison rape.

playSTATION
playSTATION
9 years ago

why are people so upset about a service thats FREE? take your time Sony.
in the mean time i shall finish AC Brotherhood, Shattered Dimensions, Saboteur and many many more.
Just dont want PSN down when Uncharted 3 or Resistance 3 is out.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Because we live in an age of entitlements. People think they deserve compensation or a refund for something they got for free. It's sickening and it needs to stop or were doomed as a society.

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

Have to admit, this will turn out to be a nightmare for Sony… they may well have to battle it out in court with more lawsuits. It will be interesting to see what happens next…

Q!

"no.psn.get.over.it"

matt99
matt99
9 years ago

Well I can understand those who are paying for Plus getting upset, but it hasn't been down anywhere near long enough to warrant any sort of compensation.

jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
9 years ago

I dont want a refund, I just want an explanation of what Sony did/does once this problem is fixed. And to know if/how my CC information was compromised. Sony is going to have alot of explaining to do if thats the case.

@playSTATION, you might be singing a different tune if it does go down when the games you want/purchase come out. More specifically, I just bought Socom 4 to play online just last week and I've barely been able to do that! Just kinda sucks. Just cause you're currently not affected doesn't mean that others arent a little upset over the situation.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I just got Socom 4 too and my friend and I had plans to play some co-op on Portal 2. I'm still not upset about not being able to connect. Being able to play games right now is the last thing people should be worrying about. How deep this breach is and what kind of information was leaked or stolen if any is what people should be concerned with.

Really, this isn't as big of a deal as a majority of the entitlement freaks on the internet are making it out to be.

Agrade, I am a Plus subscriber and I agree with him.


Last edited by Jawknee on 4/24/2011 10:54:29 PM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Qubex,

What the heck do you gain from being so anti-Sony in this topic? More lawsuits over the suspension of a free network due to an external attack? Are you kidding me? You seem to take pleasure in Sony's problems here, I almost expect you to applaud Anonymous and Hotz, despite Hotz being the reason your beloved OtherOS was terminated. Sorry, I am just wondering why you seem to be taking pleasure int his?

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I didn't read his comment that way. I took him as saying this is going to turn into bad PR for Sony which I can't disagree with even though I myself don't think Sony is doing anything wrong or deserves the bad PR. Other people especially the biased gaming sites are already spinning this, trying to blame Sony or start a console war. IGN is already writing articles demanding some kind of compensation for lost PSN time.

As for the lawsuit part. I thought he was saying Sony should file more lawsuits against the perpetrators of this crime. But I could be the one who read his comment wrong.


Last edited by Jawknee on 4/25/2011 1:10:31 AM

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

Highlander-

I'd like to ask qubex the same question! Because up until a few weeks ago he was very pro Sony, everything was 1st party talk for him with very high praise. Then ever since we seen some BF3 footage ( at least around that time) he's been pro PC. Now because of hackers, and the PSN is being maintained for a time being, he's gone what seems to be against Sony. No concern, just that this is terrible news for Sony, is all he's talking about.

So Qubex since I mentioned your name, I ask the question, why you think this is so terrible?

By the way I'm just making an observation. If none of what I say is true please feel free to elaborate. I'd love to be wrong! 😉

EDIT: after reading what jawknee posted I can see some light to qubex' statement. I disagree with it still, but I could have easily read it wrong! I only disagree because I can't believe how people are taking this. All this PR stuff is just being ate up by the terrible media sites. Sony may have their handful with that but I guarantee you all they care about is getting the PSN back up for us! The rest they'll deal with later!


Last edited by bigrailer19 on 4/25/2011 1:16:49 AM

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Well, I'm not going to converse with Qubex any longer, so if he decides to respond to anyone in this thread, that's great, but I won't participate. I do not share his view in the least.

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

Thanks Jawk, yes… I meant that as we have seen in the past, Sony has had quite a bad run of PR, for what ever the reasons. I just hope it doesn't become another long protracted affair for them.

As we saw with the Geohot's case, it was best for both parties to bury the hatchet, Sony just didn't want anymore attention. This PSN intrusion and system failure just lit everything up again for them… I am sure they are hoping it will all pass over… and so do we… I am missing some Battlefield to be honest… 🙂

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"


Last edited by Qubex on 4/25/2011 3:31:18 AM

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

Sad to see all the hate Highlander; I thought you were well beyond that sort of behavior… looking forward though to more of your informative posts… and hope "balanced" in all aspects of their debate.

Just a point to note… all of us here enjoy our Sony product. Remember we are the consumers, we invested money in the product and we support the product; BUT i don't want to have sex with the PS3, and it is not the end all and be all of my life… and neither should it be for anyone. It is an entertainment device.

At the same time though, just because you like something to death, it doesn't mean you have to accept everything the said corporation throws at you, neither should it stop you being unbalanced in your views or bias toward a specific point of view…

PsxExtreme is brilliant because of its community. People coming in from all angles sharing their thoughts and opinions… for varying reasons and situations, people's opinions may be a little off center either way about Sony as a company and its actions.

This does NOT mean we hate Sony suddenly, or have changed our tune on the support we give the company. What it means is we can debate points that show up bad corporate practices or where we feel we have been unfairly treated as consumers, and we have every right to do that.

In fact, Sony as a company would not change, grow or evolve if it were not for its users being critical of some of its actions – meaning – being constructively critical… rather than downright negative.

Corporates need to listen to their users, and sometimes, a problem that occurs is a sign for a corporate to listen and not just monopolise their market as if they are king of the hill. What we have seen in the past, and what we see now, is that Sony must listen and listen hard to its users. If they don't they must never be surprised for what ensues in the future. This goes for any other company one may support.

Sony would not exist without its customers.

By the way, how old are you Highlander?

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

I believe Jawk is absolutely right. Also, this *is* a bad thing for Sony, there should be no doubt about that.

But it would be really sad if this case cause a split in the community here. It's not worth it, the hackers has done enough harm as it is.

Mog
Mog
9 years ago

These hackers…..

whats their purpose?

So far I have come up with three solutions.
1) they want attention
2) they are trying to prove a point
3) they are bored