It's a common question amongst gamers these days: "Will the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions be the same?"
When it comes to Battlefield 3 , most all the footage we've seen thus far has been taken from the PC version. Then there was one little tidbit from the developer, who said the PS3 version "has a lead by offloading GPU w/SPUs." But in speaking to MSXBOX-World , DICE boss Patrick Bach seeks to reassure everyone by saying the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of the highly anticipated shooter will be the same.
"Our philosophy is to not to talk about things we cannot prove and this is true also when it comes to the quality of the Xbox 360 version of the game. All of the core game systems (animation, destruction, rendering, audio etc.) are the same on all platforms so there will not be a difference when it comes to the general experience of the game. Some technicalities will of course be different due to larger memory and the graphics cards you can have on the PC. We are trying to push the envelope of FPS games in general and this will be obvious in all versions of the game. Looking back to what quality we achieved with Battlefield Bad Company 2 last year we do know how to make high quality games on all platforms."
Now, there's little doubt that Battlefield 3 will look fantastic on every platform; it's really only a matter of small things that may excel due to hardware differences. Currently, it seems the graphical benchmark for multiplatform FPSs has been set by Crytek's Crysis 2 , but from what we've seen of DICE's project, the bar could be raised yet again by the end of the year. And all gamers on all platforms should be happy.
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I know the difference, whether you see it or not.
Difference is, I'm playing it on the best console on the market.
Agreed Underdog. I'm pretty stoked for this one, it will likely be my last Military Shooter for awhile. I really have no doubts about DICE Bad Co. 2 still runs well on my PS3 when the PSN isn't bugging out, anyone else having issues?
If you buy Battlefield 3 instead of MW3 you rule, plus you won't support mediocrity by skipping CoD, a win/win!
yeh about the psn I'm pretty sure they're doing maintenance or something, that's what it is if you get the error code 80710a06
Definately note the bolded text, especially the word "generally"
Also note the source is speaking to a Xbox userbase.
It simply isn't in the pubs/devs best interested to cause social unrest by declaring platform superiority. There's tender and easily irratable feelings out there and I'm sure devs dont want to answer, or look at, the hate mail.
Now I dont think its beyond the realm of possibilty that the two platforms could have near identical BF3. But in light of DICE dev presentation slides it is curious.
Though, I will say, games like Split Second and Blur offloaded lighting and rendering tasks to SPUs and, yet, the 360 version still edged them out, with Split Second dev,Blackrock, giving credit to the "very powerful" Xenos GPU.
This will be an interesting development to watch.
yes, there is only so much those spus can do becuase of their limmitted memory. i think the weak gpu in the ps3 combined with its limmitted vram is why we always see the 360 version edge out the ps3 version.
sorry, don't believe any multiplat developer when they make this claim. crytek said the same thing about crysis2. the ps3 version came in at a lower resolution, and an overall less stable framerate. ea has been good to the ps3, but most of their games still look better on the 360.
if you look at the the multiplat face offs on places like the digitlal foundry the 360 has won 229 faceoffs vs 11 for the ps3. as a ps3 owner i have become conditioned to expect the ps3 version to be inferior. i guarantee the 360 version will be better somehow. i'd bet my house on it.
Last edited by Excelsior1 on 4/21/2011 11:11:12 AM
Dang man, your house?
DF does use proprietary technology to capture images directly from the frame buffer. They also use state of the art video capturing technology that counts frames and screen tearing.
I will say it's fair to acknowledge that many of those wins are scrutinized under the most detailed conditions. Conditions that I'd image many gamers wouldn't care too much for either way.
I, for one, would like having the best version of multiplats so I do go out of my way to determine the best version before I plan a buy. And, as a result, the majority of my multiplats are on 360
@Excelsior1
Yup. Sad, but true.
"'No Difference' Between PS3 And 360 Versions" — Who believes this, ever?
Neither version of Crysis 2 was in full HD.
Its these statements that make people nitpick about which version will look better.
Obviously the PC version will be the best but I will be getting it for the PS3.
Alll this tells me is that even if the PS3 version is looking to better, they will tone it down to match the 360.
Now wait. That would never happen.
/Sarcasm..
You know i really dont believe that because thats what they said about Crysis 2 on console and im a Ps3 owner and i can clearly see a Big difference and they are still patching it. So i really dont see battlefield 3 being the same across all platforms, But if it is ill be damn impressed!!
Yes but DICE isn't Crytek. They have more experience with the PS3 hardware and do better work in general so I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt and take the wait and see approach.
yeah, i think there is a noticable difference between the ps3 and 360 version of crysis 2. the ps3 version is at the lowest resolution, and that's why it looks so blurry. it looks good for a multiplat, but nowhere near as good looking as the 360 version.
@jawk
i'd still bet my house the ps3 version will be inferior somehow. unless their name is squareenix or konami i never believe them. didn't dice do bfbc2? that game didn't look so great and had a lot of screen tearing. moh didn't look so hot either, and dice was part of that.
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The differences aren't that big. Stop exaggerating. you want to quote face off sites? Lens of Truth gave the PS3 the egde. The differences are negliable and relative. Stop whining about Crysis 2.
Excelsior, your whining about inferior multiplats is becoming insufferable. Get over it!
@jawk
i will state my opinions about crysis 2 anytime i like. get over it. i did not use the word big furryman did. i just said it was noticable becuase it just is. it's not just me complaining about the inferior multiplats. it's my opinion, and i'm allowed to express it. get over that.
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Over and over and over and over, we get it. You like to whine about inferior multiplats. We all know how you feel. Your whining is like clock work.
it's not over, and over so quit whining about my comments. yes, i mention it when it's on topic like in this article so stop whining about my opinions, i haven't complained about inferior multiplats since crysis 2 came out. you were badgering about my opinion back then, too. just leave me alone. i will call out inferior multplats anytime i feel like while you continue to live in your fantasy world that's there's little difference, and obsessing over my complaints about it.
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Excelsior, these differences are accepted better by some rather than some others. We all have our preferences. This is a sensitive area of Jawknee's, so believe me when I say these discussions with him are better left alone. Or you'll just end up spinning your wheels resulting in a lot of wasted energy.
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Ha, How am I being the sensitive one when I have accepted that such a thing happens? He's the one who's constantly whining about it like a 5 year old and reminding all of us how terrible multiplats are on the PS3 even though most of them aren't as bad as he would have us believe anymore. I'm sick of hearing this broken record. The differences are negligible and you both know it. Don't try and stir up another argument Temji.
thanks for the advice. it's a sensitive area for me as well. i mentioned it weeks ago and jawk was there badgering about my opinion then. i think the complaint about inferior multiplats is a valid topic. i just hate them. it just bugs me as a ps3 owner to know that i get the inferior version somehow despite all the developer reassurances.
@jawk you aren't whining like a 5yr old right now about my comments. just let it go. your crying about my comments like a 5yr old right now. jawk it is you that stirrs up the arguments when you butt into threads calling people names, and just acting like an ass. i've seen you do it on a lot of threads.l
Last edited by Excelsior1 on 4/21/2011 1:29:03 PM
No, what I'm asking you to do is accept it for what it is and GET OVER IT! Just enjoy the damn games and stop reminding all of us about how much you hate to remind us about how PS3 mulitplats are inferior. It's pointless. Especially 5 years into this console generation when the differences are once again….NEGLIGIBLE.
maybe if you said it like that in the first place it would be different. saying i'm whining and telling me to get over it is just rude. the 5yr old dig was uncalled for. i have not brought it up for weeks so how about you stop whining about my opinion on the matter.
multiplats have improved, but i still see differences. i don't think i'll ever be able to accept inferior multiplats or stop complaining about it. especially when we get these reassurances from developers. i think its a valid topic of concern as a ps3 owner. you might feel the differently about the matter, and i would not presume to tell you how to feel about it. you call the differences negligible, but i feel differently about it. i did not say they were big differences, or that ps3 multiplats are terrible. i just feel they are not up to parity yet. mulltiplat games just look bettter on the 360. i would call the differences small, but noticable.
Battlefield Bad Company 2 looks the same on both consoles, i looked at both videos of it on high resolution and i don't see any difference about it.
And you can't forget some people usually use color correction to make the videos look more better than what they really are.
There are multiplats that look better on PS3 than 360 and vice versa, it's not really that bad as you claim it to be. GTA4 was better on PS3 than 360 as Crysis 2 was better on 360 than PS3.
Excelsior, Apologies. Ignore my internet banter. I just don't think all your worrying and complaining about it is worth it. You don't need to keep reminding us how disappointed you are. We are all well aware of the how a lot of multiplats have turned out. It shouldn't matter that much to you since you own both consoles. Most PS3 owners simply don't care anymore. It just gets tiresome hearing all the complaining about something that really is no big deal and only serves to fan the flames of fanboy wars. This isn't 2007 anymore and most games turn out equal. You say the PS3 version of Crysis is blurry, I say the 360 has screen tearing. They both have their faults so it all comes down to preference.
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@jawk
apolopgy accepted. btw i don't own a 360, but all my friends do so i am always comparing. i am no ms fan, and wouldn't touch their hardware. i'm pretty much a hardcore sony fan so that's why i feel a little let down my multiplats in general. there are exceptions, and the situation has gotten a lot better, but i still see small but noticable differences in many games.
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Ah, I thought you did.
That's understandable Excelsior.
Thank you for resolving that civilly, but I just want to add something-
I've seen Crysis 2 on the PS3, 360 and high-end PC. I only noticed anything significant on the PC version but for the record, I'm not about to shell out what that person paid for his monster rig. The difference wasn't THAT gigantic.
As for the PS3 and 360 versions, people can say what they want. I saw very little difference, and especially none that hampered gameplay. I went all the way through Crysis 2 on the PS3 and never noticed an unstable frame rate. It remained entirely smooth throughout.
I'm not sorry I played it on the PS3 and I seriously doubt I would've gotten any more enjoyment out of it if I had played it on the 360. This isn't Bayonetta; that was a port problem that affected the gameplay, and it was a definite issue. Whether or not a brick in a building is a little sharper doesn't bother me. I'm playing a GAME. 🙂
Crisis 2 on 360 has been measured to dip the hardest in frames during the most intense sequences. While its rare, I know I noticed.
i don't think the difference is that big in crysis2, either. i still noticed it, though. i think inferior multiplats have really hurt sony this gen. people that don't know the ins and outs of the consoles just assume the ps3 is inferior. it drives nutts, sometimes.
inferior multiplats and short games spammed with dlc are 2 of my biggest gripes about this gen.
Not that I disagree necessarily, but I would hardly call Crysis 2 an inferior multiplat.
I'll be getting this for the PS3 cause I don't have a all that PC gaming rig.
hey guys, this is off topic but is anybody else having problems signing in on psn? my internet is fine so it looks like psn is down.
I can't sign in either. Maintenance perhaps?
yup, I haven't been able to sign in since at least 1am. I'm assuming psn is down, but that's a long time to be offline.
Anyone have the email to Anonymous? I'm going to be sending a scathing email to them, if PSN is still down when I get home from work today!
In doing some Googling, Sony seems convinced it's an outside group causing the outage.
there was no maintenance scheduled for today. they usually announce that ahead of time so maybe it is an outside source. it's been down a long time.
So another multiplat game where devs are claiming uber awesomeness and then saying it will look the same on all systems.
Ps3 version gets gimped again, thank you M$, your money screws us again.
"Generally it's the same game" soo, basically they're not saying anything about whether or not there will be any differences between platforms…
I think if microsoft, backed up the pc like the controller and games…everyone would have walked away with a win, and the ps3 wouldn't have to suffer so much all the time.
The differences in most multiplatform games on the 360 and PS3 is so so so so miniscule. They be slightly better on the 360 for one reason or another but its so hard to tell.
What everyone should be more concerned with is how the 360/PS3 version will look compared to the PC clips that EA keeps releasing.
Oh yes, I agree. But some would have us believe it's still night and day and that we should constantly bring it up to remind ourselves how terrible multipats are on the PS3.
No big difference and yet there should be. I smell crysis 2 fail all over again. a beastly
engine or not. its look like unless they are a first party developer they won't take the advantage of the ps3 hardware.
If they manage to offload enough of the tasks to the SPUs, they should have no problem in achieving platform parity, as exclusive games have historically shown. However, multiplatform devs just don't seem capable of realising that, and so the PS3 version usually comes in with just a tad less detail than the 360 version. Doesn't worry me, it's usually not that noticeable when the games have been developed side-by-side, though ports are shocking. I hope Battlefield 3 offers a decent length campaign, because it's looking amazing, and that's the only way I'm picking it up day 1.
Happy Easter PSXExtreme.
Peace.
I agree.
I thought they were gonna push both consoles to their limits?? What happened with that??