To most long-time RPG fans, this news will fall under the "well, duh " category.

In speaking to AtomicGamer , Blizzard's Kevin Martens said "the action and RPG genres are bleeding together a lot more than they used to," which has often left fans of "purer" role-playing experiences bitter and unhappy. Martens adds that a lot of action games are featuring RPG elements, which is another new advent in gaming, but one that typically doesn't cause die-hard action fans to freak out. Said Martens, who is currently working on Diablo III :

"The two genres are sharing a lot more things together. RPGs are inherently compelling in their level-up systems and character customization ability, etc., so that stuff is coming into action play.

If we’re going to talk specifically about action-RPG, the genre mold of Diablo, I think it’s really a game that’s randomized like that, it has a bunch of different classes. Those games are just really hard to make. Diablo II was a king of that genre, and it’s still for sale everywhere over 10 years later."

There's no knowing if Diablo III will show up on consoles, but the point here is the facts…which few will contest. The question is, while the RPG followers find this an abomination in some ways, nobody seems to be complaining that Bioshock and other action-oriented titles have adopted role-playing elements. Odd, isn't it?

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A2K78
A2K78
9 years ago

action-rpg's have been around for far too long than this guy think; Cadash, Golden Axe, Magic Sword, Sword of Vermillion, D&D Tower of Doom, etc, etc…

BTNwarrior
BTNwarrior
9 years ago

or in other words we will be clicking alot

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

No it isn't that odd really, because RPGs are pure goodness and all that is right and compelling about gaming. So it's no surprise that if you spoonfeed RPG elements to the twitch babies they will appreciate them. But dumping action into something and making it "faster and dumber" (that's for you Ben) is obviously going to piss off people who liked their games the way they were.

In other words, if it ain't broke don't fix it. RPG elements in action games fixes them, action elements in RPGs can break them (See: demise of turn-based)

shadowscorpio
shadowscorpio
9 years ago

So true. That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

Word, Word.
More rpg in action games is only a good thing. Just let rpg be rpg. Can't be too hard, can it? 🙂

Alienange
Alienange
9 years ago

I'd say Diablo is an excellent example of action being implemented into an RPG with great effect. If any of the stuck up elitist role players of old had a problem with Diablo, well, should their opinion even matter? Anyone who dismisses Diablo because it has action in it needs a slap in the back of the head. Same goes for the TES series, current gen Fallout and all of the copycats. I don't see gamers complaining, I see them buying these games up in droves. In fact, doesn't one of the most revered FF games of all time have action elements in it?

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

FFVII? Not sure what you'd consider actiony about it, 'cept maybe the little minigames.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
9 years ago

Not surprised this thread is low on comments since it's geared more towards the PC crowd.

The reason gamers aren't complaining about the use of RPG elements in action games is because the core elements and gameplay are not reduced. The RPG elements are simply added onto the current FPS/Action game format.

Unlike recent RPGs where the addition of action/dumb-down-elements takes away from the core elements that make a traditional RPG. '

You can add sugar to sh#t and say it's an improvement but it doesn't mean adding sh#t to sugar will result in the same.

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

To be honest, if the balance is there, why can't the two gameplay elements co-exist. I would prefer a more "dumbed" down RPG experience, with more action and level progression…

Take it from an ol' twitch boy wizard 🙂

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
9 years ago

::Points at every RPG from the past decade with increased action elements::

That's why.


Last edited by LimitedVertigo on 4/18/2011 2:56:03 AM

Lairfan
Lairfan
9 years ago

I agree completely LV.

___________
___________
9 years ago

really?
well, what do you know the sky is blue, and water is wet!
could of fooled me!
really looking forward to this, i wish antivision would start putting some pressure on blizzard to give us some release dates.
gets really annoying constantly hearing when its done, i mean diablo 3s been in development for so long antivision could of made guitar hero 83 by now!

Lotusflow3r
Lotusflow3r
9 years ago

Wow, i just mentioned this game in the week review item and called it the king of this genre. Conincidence!

Anyway, i am hoping more than anything….this makes it to consoles. This type of game is unbeatable on local multiplayer, so much fun! With no Champions or Dark Alliance game coming, there is only one title that could fill those spaces and then some…Diablo lll.

It's been nearly 10 years since Diablo ll, this is going to be BIG.


Last edited by Lotusflow3r on 4/18/2011 7:19:56 AM

CrusaderForever
CrusaderForever
9 years ago

All I want to hear is that Diablo III is coming out on the PS3. That is all….

CoolBLKguy
CoolBLKguy
9 years ago

Action RPG's are the best RPG's hands down. A quality real time combat system in an RPG is always better than turn based or D&D style combat in an RPG regardless of how well it's executed.

Crabba
Crabba
9 years ago

This is THE game I've been waiting for for the past 10 years, only thing that rivals it right now is Uncharted 3, and that's saying something…

There are SO few proper Action/RPG's nowadays, even bad ones, but with Blizzard & Diablo you KNOW it's going to be AWESOME, just like you just KNOW the same thing with Naughty Dog & Uncharted!!