Dragon Age II was missing a few key elements that kept it from elite status in our mind…but multiplayer wasn't one of those elements.

I mean, who really cares? Still, according to the rumor mill in the latest edition of the Official PlayStation Magazine , BioWare is currently working on Dragon Age III , "complete with an all-new multiplayer mode." According to the "Inside Whispers" part of the publication, the hint reads- "More elf sexy time! Dragon Age 3 is on the way, with an added multiplayer component." Most of the time, we just say, "hey, isn't that neat" and move on our way. But recently, with the other rumor that says Sony Santa Monica might include a multiplayer feature in the next God of War , we're starting to get a little irritated. Factor in the latest downloadable titles that claim to have single-player campaigns (that you either can't finish alone or take less than an hour to complete), and that irritation grows. RPGs, with the exception of MMORPGs, are single-player experiences.

Am I the only one who sees it that way? Or are there many role-playing fans out there who would welcome a multiplayer addition to DAIII? Personally, I just want my freakin' explorable world map and individual armor pieces for my companions.

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maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

I didn't buy the second one after I found the demo not to my liking.

But, I would like to see some type of city (it doesn't have to be huge) that offers a trading post location for the players.

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

sadly after watching a friend play DAII it seems all that it has is one city.

not quite, but come on like 80% of the game takes place in one city, how lame is that. Was not what I meant when I asked for towns and cities in my rpgs.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

That was another issue that sealed the deal for me. I really loved Dragon Age Origins and it's several locations.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
9 years ago

Personally, I couldn't care any less about multi-layer in RPGs (and a few other genre). Yes, multi-player has it's place, but not in traditionally solo games.

duomaxwell007
duomaxwell007
9 years ago

well thats the only thing stopping me from jumping on the Dragon AGHe bandwagon.. sure i dont mind sibgle player when it comes to action/.adventure etc etc games.. but RPGs is all about embarking on a epic quest with a PARTY (group) of other adventurers so why not let that party be real ppl? if DA3 officially has multiplayer (even if it isnt though the single player campaigbn) then itll be teh first DA game i buy

Neo_Aeon666
Neo_Aeon666
9 years ago

I agree with you up to a point. 😀

Remember the old baldurs gate 1 & 2? And morrowind

We could replace some of the npcs with your buddy over tcp/ip 😀 😀 😀

We still had the great singleplayer campaing with same choices and effect but the second player was more of a spectator. Still I would agree to a feature where you can take your main character to help out a buddy or just plain start a new game with him as we like. But in no way do I want it to affect the single player campaing. Just like in the old baldurs gate days 😀 no?

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Because real people can be dumber than your most basic AI.

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

world if you take your statement, but change the word "real" to "most" and "can be" to "are" and I would definitely agree with you.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Ha!

Neo_Aeon666
Neo_Aeon666
9 years ago

I get you on that World but if this feature does not impact the single player story just like they used to do it in their older titles and just lets you play with a buddy from times to times it would be pretty cool. Or did you not play the old bioware rpgs?

* I typed morrowind instead of icewindale somehow in my previous post sry lol


Last edited by Neo_Aeon666 on 4/11/2011 4:47:49 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

yeah that would be fine, I just wanted to make a point.

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
9 years ago

So , as well as your scripted party members you could also select friends to go with you?

I suppose you'd lose out on a lot of the carefully constructed inter-relationship work BUT as long as it didn't mean they just wouldn't bother to create the inter-relationship work, then I suppose I'd be ok with it. Barely.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

This would be welcomed news for me. I was under the false impression the first Dragon Age had mp. Was kind of a let down when I found out it didn't. But the game was great so that complaint went out the window. But considering all the team work already in place a mp addition would be great! These games with huge worlds work with mp. Although DA doesn't have an open world map it is a rather large game. Looking forward to more news of this, definitely something my roomates and I would enjoy!

BTNwarrior
BTNwarrior
9 years ago

maybe they should fix 2 before they start thinking about things like this. Still can't play for more than 5 min without it freezing

SirLoin of Beef
SirLoin of Beef
9 years ago

If done properly, MP could be sweet in this game. I don't necessarily want MP in it but I wouldn't be against it as long as it makes sense wrt the story, etc.

coverton341
coverton341
9 years ago

If they include multiplayer and have the other players be story characters then I'm out. I don't want to have main story characters controlled by someone else, it just takes away from their personality in my opinion and puts someone elses in their place.

If they added an element like WKC in the way of multiplayer, like you go to a "lobby" and do quests with other peoples' avatars but it doesn't hold any relation to the single player story, I might be able to get behind that. Though honestly, I probably wouldn't use it too much.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

agreed, WKC multiplayer is the only way to do it if it must be done.

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

definitely, but somehow I highly doubt that bioware would go that route and DA is very different from WKC anyway, it still wouldn't seem like it fit.

Neo_Aeon666
Neo_Aeon666
9 years ago

lol dood what are you talking about? Even in dragon age your party is controlled only by YOU and it has NOTHING to do with their personality. I could have morrigan hit a wall for two hours and look like a tard and I bet she aint that dumb no? Heck you are even the one who decides on their tactics and they have no say in it so what would be the difference if some1 else does it? (supposing youd be willing to have one of your good buddies play with you)

The story would remain the same the cutscenes aswell. Go check out Baldurs gate shadows of amn and throne of baal or icewindale from bioware they are good exemples of nice multiplayer with a grand singleplayer campaing.

Like your buddy can come in your game and either bring his character or take control of one of your npc if you want it. No one is forcing you and even if they dont join you it wont change a thing but to me it was fun to have me and my buddy playing baldurs gate over tcp/ip having each created a new character and rampaging on the huge single player campaing. Only player one had the authority to talk in dialogues and player two was support. We each took command of two characters and strategized lol


Last edited by Neo_Aeon666 on 4/11/2011 4:57:42 PM

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

I'd like to see what Santa Monica could come up with in a GoW multiplayer mode. I can imagine something pretty cool if it was done co-op style.

Geobaldi
Geobaldi
9 years ago

Seeing as how Dragon Age is played pretty similar to the original Baldur's Gate series, I can see multiplayer working pretty well if it was added. Loved teaming up with my friends back then throughout that entire series.

Neo_Aeon666
Neo_Aeon666
9 years ago

yah man! thats the only mp ill accept for it

Codeez
Codeez
9 years ago

Maybe they should worry about polishing out the games flaws before they change up the game even more.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

yup

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I don't need it, but then Dragon Age III will probably not be a first day buy for me after the weirdo direction that DAII took. I liked it but didn't love it like I did with Origins.

The thing is, multiplayer aficionados don't even care about RPGs for the most part. So won't this just detract from the single player?

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

Bull's-eye.

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

You know when Dragon Age was announced I was super excited. I purchased and read both novels before the game came out. Saved money so I could pre-order the game. I spent about 180 hours playing it, I beat every side-quest with each of the three classes so that I could platinum it, but didn't want to rush through it with any of them. I loved it, great world, stories, just plain great all around.

DA II arrives and automatically I see issues, from graphics choices, to reducing the rpgness of it, to making it take place almost completely in one town. I will buy it and like most people will probably think it's ok, but it's no Origins, that is for sure.

Now this, this?!? I can't ever remember playing dragon age and thinking, this would make for some good MP action. It wouldn't fit right, it will just be an wrong. I'm sorry, but I play an rpg so that I can be immersed in a story, a story in a world unlike mine. How can I do this with MP? Uuggh.

Bioware I have loved you, but me thinks you are headed the direction of SE with this kind of toilet talk.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

There is a very similar article in a norwegian gaming site today (noone of you reads norwegian anyways so I wont bother with the url :D) and from what I understand from that article BioWare is talking about a full, persistent mmorpg, not the multiplayer you guys think of (a group of players doing deathmatch or whatever).

However please note that both I and the mentioned site could be wrong here. Don't kill me if I am… It sounds plausible though, cause really, a multiplayer Dragon Age or Mass Effect "capture the flag" makes no sense at all.

FM23
FM23
9 years ago

LMAO…deathmatch, takes away from the seriousness of the game.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

hehe yeah that'd be awful. Can't see that happening 😀

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Can't read it but I'm like a quarter Norwegian if that counts.

Eld
Eld
9 years ago

I don't know. Their hands are full with SWTOR in MMO department. Would they really consider working on another one any time soon?

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

@Word: Oh, anything Norwegian counts 😉

@eld: … Or maybe that's exactly why… If they already have spent a fortune creating the kotor mmo engine, why not wrap a fantasy rpg around it too?
Although, that would mean no console version. And that'd suck.


Last edited by Beamboom on 4/12/2011 3:56:23 AM

DazeOfWar
DazeOfWar
9 years ago

I'm still working on Origins and with my experience with it I don't think this would be a feature needed for a single player game. Developers need to stop adding MP to games that don't need it. Specially when it turns out mediocre.

FM23
FM23
9 years ago

Well there are still a bunch of single player games to play and lets not forget, AC Brotherhood was a great game that included MP action as a bonus. I for one would like to see it done properly, not at the expense of making a great RPG single player adventure. They don't need a MP though, why would I buy an RPG to play MP.

TheOldOne
TheOldOne
9 years ago

Don't waste time on adding multiplayer mode to a franchise that does not need it (unless you want to call it "World of Dragon Age" and make it a multiplayer only game). By the way, I only missed the companion armor on DA II (like Ben mentioned).

Victor321
Victor321
9 years ago

No. NO Multiplayer until they get some of their questionable design choices in DAII (that were undoubtedly not questioned in DA:O) sorted out.

Multiplayer is the last thing I want from DAIII, as it does not fit at all in the context of the world, the characters, and the lore that Bioware has built.

If they want multiplayer in any of their games, they should incorporate it in a new IP because not only would it be a sensible and respectable design choice (fans of DA and ME for example won't get further shunned and ignored), Bioware's the kind of developer that likes to make fresh IPs; DA and ME are their latest IPs that have proven to be successful for them, despite the negative backlash (the re-use of environments in DAII and the more shooter-focused aspect of the gameplay in ME2).

I apologize if I come off mad, as I absolutely loved DA:O, II and MEs 1 and 2. I just see notable flaws that in my opinion don't detract hugely from the quality of the products; however, multiplayer will.

Sacrificing fan loyalty for a simply wider audience has never worked for RPG developers (case in point, Square Enix), so please Bioware don't implement multiplayer.


Last edited by Victor321 on 4/11/2011 3:13:08 PM

shadowscorpio
shadowscorpio
9 years ago

Bottom line. Multiplayer should never be manditory when it comes to finishing a game or doing everything in it. That's how I feel about the matter.

Crabba
Crabba
9 years ago

Just another sign that Bioware is headed in the wrong direction 🙁

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

If anyone's interested, Bioware is talking a Mass Effect MMO:

http://www.titanreviews.com/#/mass-effect-mmo/4550443714

Shiva369
Shiva369
9 years ago

Very much agree with the last paragraph of that Titans piece…BioWare, DO NOT mess with Mass Effect 3. Finish the story right, then make your MMO or whatever.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

But why even worry about that, there's never been any talk of Mass Effect 3 going multiplayer?

Eld
Eld
9 years ago

Terrible idea. I don't even understand why are they making these kind of crazy changes. I mean Origins was closer to older style RPGs and it was so successful. Why change it so much? Is it unwillingness to invest time and/or money.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

It's unwillingness to stick to what people actually like and instead cater to the current trends.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

I would not call a Mass Effect mmorpg a "change" but rather consider it to be a new game. The step from single player to mmo is simply too large to call it anything else than a new game, in my opinion.

I'm optimistic about this "rumor", cause this may mean that BioWare are so satisfied with how the kotor-mmo is shaping up to be that they want to use that engine also on other titles!
Pure speculation of course, but still… One can always hope. 🙂

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
9 years ago

Not me. Dragon Age is, and should remain an SP-only series (unless they decide to do a full MMORPG, without including it in the main series). Seriously though, with Bioware working on The Old Republic, as well as rumours floating about of a ME MMO, it would be a ridiculous drain on resources to do a third, particularly as it would actively compete against their other two. Or perhaps it would complement them… Nah, most MMO players stick to one, don't they?

Imagine a Demon's Souls styled multiplayer element though… THat would work, wouldn't it?
Peace.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

No it wouldn't, you know how people are online, they would ruin plot points with their left behind notes just to be d*cks.

Jonesy555
Jonesy555
9 years ago

Geez Bioware. Just make DAIII like Origins, but better. Don't go changing things up dramatically.

PSTan
PSTan
9 years ago

Would you guys recommend DA2? Do I need to have played Origins to understand the storyline?

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
9 years ago

As a slight aside, apparently ME3 is getting more of the old RPG elements back which were stripped out for ME2, so maybe DA3 will return to an 'origins' style too? I can hope, right?