It seems to be a hot topic these days.

As gaming becomes more and more mainstream, girl gamers are starting to emerge and make themselves known. Unsurprisingly, this emergence comes with a wee bit of angst due to how female players are often treated…especially online. And lately, a new article at Kotaku focused on an anonymous – or not so anonymous as the case may be – girl gamer named Arianna Reiche. You should read up on what she has to say but here's the leading quote:

"…we shouldn't be having to hide online, and this is unfair. I should be able to tell people I'm female and not expect crazy to come out of it."

It's a topic we've addressed before but we'll just let this sound-off speak for itself. The question is, will the situation ever change? Will male gamers ever grow up? Or are some girl gamers blowing things just a tad out of proportion?

Well, as is the case with most any complex answer, we imagine it's a combination of multiple factors.

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PasteNuggs
PasteNuggs
9 years ago

The first time I realized I was playing with a woman it never even crossed my mind that it was kind of "taboo" I guess is the word. I mean really girls have been playing games just as long as us guys. Some guys just need to get over themselves and stop being arrogant pr*cks.


Last edited by PasteNuggs on 3/17/2011 10:38:07 PM

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

"…we shouldn't be having to hide online, and this is unfair. I should be able to tell people I'm female and not expect crazy to come out of it."

She's partaking in a hobby dominated by boys and men. As unfair as it is, I'm afraid what she's asking for is unrealistic.

PasteNuggs
PasteNuggs
9 years ago

True, but what happened to always treating women with respect? Any guy who feels the need to be a jerk to a girl for the fact that she is girl needs to grow up. Gamers have come a long way but that's one area that needs some improvement IMO.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I agree with you, I just don't see any many men around anymore. Boys are taking a lot longer to grow up these days. Not sure why.

PasteNuggs
PasteNuggs
9 years ago

I agree. I'm 19 and feel like all my friends from high school are idiots who only care about getting drunk and being stupid. They seem to have no direction in their lives.

Karosso
Karosso
9 years ago

I have to agree with you Jawknee, this trend is getting out of control, guys are taking too long to mature this days…
On an out-of-topic note, do you or any of the old-timers and by that I mean on this site 😉 have any recommendations, as far as early PS3 games are concerned? I had my friend buy a PS3 after playing Uncharted 2 for 8 hours straight at my place and want him to start with some of the earlier titles. I will lend him HS and Uncharted 1, anything else I might recommend from the really early days? Thanks in advance!

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Umm…pretty much any PS3 exclusive. Infamous, Killzone, Heavy Rain, Ratchet and Clank Tools of Destruction and A Crack in Time, Valkria Chronicles. Some decent multiplats would be Vanquish, Red Dead Redemption, Bioshock 1 and 2, Dead Space 1 and 2. I would just browse through some of the reviews on this site or send him here. There's too many to mention them all. haha

Karosso
Karosso
9 years ago

Thanks man, I was thinking really early on but thinking back on it, the early years were very bland, beside HS and Uncharted 1, cant think of much else that was just too good to pass on… all those titles you mention are must haves, just want him to start from the beginning.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

OH! How could I forget. Metal Gear Solid 4. My favorite game this generation.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

Karosso,

Might I suggest Metal Gear Soild 4 Guns of the Patriots, Fear 1 & 2, The Darkness, and Killzone 1 & 2.

Jed
Jed
9 years ago

#Karosso

Resistance: FOM is about as early as you can get for good exclusives. I would also reccomend Motorstorm too. I really liked Burnout Paradise and Assassins Creed if they haven't already played those on 360. Right now I cant think of much more than the others already reccomended.

Way to help the PS3 cause!!!

Karosso
Karosso
9 years ago

Thanks a lot guys! great tips and yes, RFoM was a great first must have title. MGS4 is so good, I a hard time seeing it as an early title LOL

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
9 years ago

who cares about all this. The time that I ran into online-PS3 and thought was pretty funny was that 2 boys making fun of another boy that had the words barbie and bambi in the person's nickname, they all had mics on and swearing back and forth, after couple of secs. it all got boring, and just muted them. My bad, hit the reply button.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 3/18/2011 11:35:06 AM

Danny007
Danny007
9 years ago

Ben sure does find the best pictures for his articles.

Alienange
Alienange
9 years ago

I get heckled at knitting class. What's the difference?

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

HA.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

Is your knitting really that bad?

GuernicaReborn
GuernicaReborn
9 years ago

I can guarantee the morons who freak out when they see a girl online have never talked to one in real life.

If girls want to talk online, the only thing they can really do is use a voice changer. Otherwise, there's no avoiding all the anonymous shrieking morons with no social skills.

rogers71
rogers71
9 years ago

You only have to be on HOME and see all the idiots flocking to a female avatar to know this kind of behavior is not going away anytime soon.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Indeed.

Shiva369
Shiva369
9 years ago

Yep. I made a female avatar and got a taste of that. If that's what it's like for girl gamers, they have my sympathies..

Neo_Aeon666
Neo_Aeon666
9 years ago

Well you know lots of those girl gamers LOVE the attention and the freebies they get just for beeing a girl.

Heck why dont we guys start whining because girls get more free stuff, attention and an automatic *like* status from the majority of the crowd huh. THATS SO UNFAIR FOR ME. -_-''

Im still sorry for the ones who dont want attention but there is also some guys who want attention and dont get it. They both are a minority and we are not whining so girls shouldnt whine either and just live with it. Guys will get over it at some point as the number of girls increase but if they take radical actions against guys in games it will just make us pissed and next thing you know there will be WoW servers GIRLS ONLY BOYS ONLY and the likes… LOL


Last edited by Neo_Aeon666 on 3/20/2011 12:28:21 PM

akmdpc
akmdpc
9 years ago

The immaturity that goes along with online gaming is really sad to see. Personally, it's why I mostly stay away from it. The last thing I need after a long day is getting cussed out by some prepubescent dweeb hiding behind a microphone. I do feel sympathy for the girl gamers, especially since I'm raising two future ones who are going to roxors your boxors.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Mute button us your friend. 🙂

At least PSN isn't as bad as LIVE though. Bundling a headset with every Xbox sold was a HUGE mistake in my opinion. Especially since a majority of the people on LIVE seem to be underage or act underage.

akmdpc
akmdpc
9 years ago

Agreed. I was trying out MAG with the Sharpshooter (BIG mistake btw) and was impressed how civil people were. I can't say I've had a similar experience on XBL.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I couldn't even use Move without the Sharpshooter on MAG. Maybe it's the settings.

The X Factor 9
The X Factor 9
9 years ago

I don't understand what's so shocking about this. Don't quote me on it, but I read somewhere that females constitute a majority of Nintendo DS owners. Think about that…

Codeez
Codeez
9 years ago

Thats because they are all playing xbox live.


Last edited by Codeez on 3/17/2011 11:20:29 PM

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

LOL!

BIGRED15
BIGRED15
9 years ago

lol ps home is a joke when it comes to this subject. i have played against and with girl gamers as well as I was in a clan w/ one once. Videogames aren't a place for guys to think with their p*****s play the stupid game work with your team instead of harrassing them, and i won't have to school you while you are too busy gawking at a girl whom you cant even see and will likely never personally know

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I wonder how many of those "girls" on Home really are girls.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

To echo what Jawk and Paste said already, boys are taking much longer to grow up. Or perhaps we just notice it because of how wide-spread and accessible communication is now, I don't know.

What I do know, is this:

As I've mentioned before, I'm a youth advisor for a youth organization and do employment counseling. Most of the youth I work with have no focus, are motivated mostly by media devices, don't grasp basic concepts about self-respect or respect for others… you know… your typical (on average) teenager!

Problem is, I'm about 25, and some of these teenagers on my case load are OLDER than me. I meet on a daily basis the types that would harass girls online, and often, in public.

Anyways, as Ben said, there's a huge number of combinations of factors that contribute to this. In fact, the reason WHY people behave this way is almost unique to each and every individual. So we'd never solve that issue in a thread like this.

In the end, it works like this:

Every idiot and their mom NEEDZES a mic to spread nothing but filth and idiocy. Most (I said MOST, not all) people who are at least moderately intelligent, only want a mic for when playing with folks on their friends list. Otherwise, they usually don't use it… because you end up muting everyone…

So often, I believe it just SEEMS like guys are idiots. In a game of 12 people, 3-6 might be using mics… and they're the ones that are rude to women. I'm willing to bet there are a TON of quality guys online… You just don't hear them cause they rarely use their mics.

Anyways, that's my 2 cents on this.

/rant/

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I think it really is taking longer. From what I gather from my 75 year old grandfather who fought in the Korean War, most men in his generation were expected to be men by the time they were 16-18 years old. Either working or in the military.

faraga
faraga
9 years ago

You're right about the mic part. I only use my mic while playing with friends. Otherwise, it's turned off.

Veitsknight
Veitsknight
9 years ago

Dead Space 2 made me buy a mic. Kinda hard to win when 2 out of 4 members in your team are only interested in their K/D ratio.

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

Mine is always on, i just don't talk into it sometimes. Usually the only time i talk back is if someones trying to trash talk to me because he got demolished by me or i'm just over all better than him/her.

(Back when i was playing MW2 this girl went completely off at me swearing at me and calling me a P***y Lol)

It's funny though, because i was running around rushing people killing everyone. And after the game, this guy comes up and is trying to say i was camping in a corner when i completely out smarted him on choke points and line of sights and faster reflexes. They just follow up with mom jokes and end up rage quitting from the lobby, this part was in Black Ops.

Well that's what happened to me, thought i would tell everyone what i experienced. I don't think i ever told you guys about this before when this article came up, and sometimes it's not just the guys either it can be both ways.

Nerull
Nerull
9 years ago

I can see why this isn't going to change but really what's the big deal?
There's no point in hitting on someone who might possibly be in the same time zone as you (likely with as much subtlety as a train wreck). If you can't take losing to a girl, chances are you suck at losing in general.
I don't care for voice chat online anyway since most mic's sound pretty bad.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

Before my PS3 just died, there was a girl/woman called GamerGirl666 that was playing in the Warfare mode of Killzone 3's multi-player & she was constantly kicking a$$ & taking names & at the #1 spot on every single match's leader-board.

I started watching her play as we went through the next couple rounds & she was completely amazing taking down foe after foe & completing all the tasks assigned to that match. I actually started following her & trying to back her up on the missions(not that she needed my assistance), & I started finding my own points jumping up by 2000-3000. Just watching her 6, taught me quite a few new tricks for future missions once I get my broke down PS3 repaired in July, along with my KZ3 disc that still stuck in it.

Anyway, since I haven't tried using a mic, we never spoke, but I'll always remember her as being the very best player there I've ever seen in my 66+ hours of KZ.

And some day, I hope to run into her again while playing.


Last edited by BikerSaint on 3/17/2011 11:45:25 PM

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
9 years ago

You can eject the disc out somehow i don't know how my brother did it, he said he held the eject button down until the disc came out, even when it had the Yellow Light.

You could also look on YouTube to see how to do it so you don't damage the disc.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

Clamedeus,
I've tried everything to get my KZ3 disc out, including trying the ideas both on YouTube & Google, with the same Fail results.

So as far as I can see it, I'll have to send my PS3 in with the disc still inside & then demand nicely that they also send my disc back safely, wrapped & scratch-free.

But unfortunately, I won't have any extra bucks to do so till my next big check in July.

I'm now without my KZ3 & my PS3 till at least then….ARRGGG!!!!


Last edited by BikerSaint on 3/19/2011 12:06:00 AM

RX78Zero
RX78Zero
9 years ago

Yes, it is unfortunate that the ladies are been treated in such a manner by their counterpart. They just wanna have a good time like any other gamer out there.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
9 years ago

Ah the bliss of offline gaming… I don't see why any guy would get his knickers in a twist while playing against/with a girl, even if she absolutely destroys him. It's just a game. Much of what I've seen though seems to border on, or indeed fall into, sexual harassment. Seriously, anyone who bothers to do that over the internet is pathetic, and anyone who does it in reality isn't worth knowing, IMO. Guys just need to chill out and act with respect. Bring back the oldentime ideals of chivalry, rather than the baseness that seems to be so prevalent in society.
Peace.

___________
___________
9 years ago

the question is not will male gamers ever grow up, its will gamers ever grow up!
i stopped playing games online, because your constantly having to put up with the idiots screaming their heads off, or even worse blasting that crappy RMB through my speakers!
i swear i feel like PSN has turned into XBLA!

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

"i swear i feel like PSN has turned into XBLA!"

No it hasn't.

___________
___________
9 years ago

oh yes it has!
first thing i heard when i got into the MAG beta was oh we got a ozzie with us, hey a dingo just stole my baby.
real original!
tis why i dont play online anymore, theres nothing but 10 year old spoiled brats!

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

lol! Dingo's stealing babies….

Classic!

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

You're a drama queen Cowpatty and blow everything out of proportion so your credibilty on this issue is….zero.

Shiva369
Shiva369
9 years ago

R'n'B mate, Rhythm and Blues. I've heard a little potty talk on MAG, but nothing like the trash you get on MW2. You can bet 99% of those tools teabagging, teamkilling at spawn and all that learned their bad habits on MW2 or Halo…just watch them jumping and bunny hopping Halo style. PSN is a different beast altogether compared to Live.

Snaaaake
Snaaaake
9 years ago

This and fanboyism are the worst problem among gamers.
Sigh……………

Kai200X
Kai200X
9 years ago

First of all, most of the time we don't even know if they are real women. Too many times there are guys pretend to be girls for whatever reason. Anyway, I don't think they need to hide, if something went wrong, just leave.