In just about every facet of entertainment, we see evidence of a depressing decline in attention spans and overall patience. It's one of the reasons we believe the Call of Duty phenomenon is both sustained and widespread .

But when it comes to a game like Team Bondi's L.A. Noire , which very clearly requires a player to step into the shoes of a detective – a position that demands the utmost in regards to patience and diligence – we're a little concerned: does the current "satisfy me now" gaming culture have room for such an intellectual title? We have more confidence than we had last year, when we asked if Heavy Rain was simply too smart for most gamers; as it turned out, the game went on to be a huge success. With over 1.5 million units sold, that greatly eclipsed the original expectation of only a few hundred thousand. So it proved there is an audience for such an interactive experience…at least so far as the PlayStation 3 is concerned.

Therefore, we'd hope to see L.A. Noire succeed in much the same way. In fact, we hope it's even bigger. Based on all the footage we've seen thus far, it appears to feature a combination of slower-paced sleuthing (i.e., exploring a crime scene, following up on clues, interrogating suspects, etc.) and action mechanics that remind us of Red Dead Redemption in terms of execution. This could very well be one of the best productions of 2011; there's no doubt it's already one of the most ambitious of the generation. But as CoD grows and the casual gamers become a bigger and bigger part of the gaming demographic, we still worry that certain intellectual pursuits will be ignored. We know a lot of you are looking forward to it, certainly, but then again, we have an older-than-average readership.

So we have our concerns but hopefully, later this year, we'll find that L.A. Noire was yet another rip-roaring success for Rockstar…well, provided the game turns out as well as we think it will. Review scores still push software, remember.

Related Game(s): L.A. Noire

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AshT
AshT
9 years ago

If it is anything like heavy rain I'm so buying it

Kiryu
Kiryu
9 years ago

Don't Worry it won't be like Heavy Rain.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I'm definitely getting it, I love being able to use my brain in a game instead of just my thumbs.

Will it sell like CoD? no, but since so many people still think Rockstar is making it that name alone carries enough cache to bring it the kind of success it deserves. I hope it opens a few minds too, not only with gamers but with developers who don't necessarily have to doom themselves to making a bunch of FPS games.

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

I think L.A. Noire is an interesting proposition, and is on my day 1 purchase list. I have heard some reports (from recent showings at GDC) that the character modeling, texturing and some of the environmentals where not as good as previously thought. Aside from the polygon loaded character faces and great lip animation movement it will be very interesting to see how the production values hold up.

Needless to say, Heavy Rain has its quirks, I am sure L.A. Noire will have its quirks as well. Shouldn't detract from the overall game… but time will tell. From what I can see, read and heard is seems like it will be a quality title worth the $60 outlay.

I will await the review first though…

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
9 years ago

Yet you compare it with CoD…

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Qubex, the texture work does looks a bit disappointing. Even my wife thought it looked poor when she watched the trailer with me. I wonder if going multiplat forced some concessions.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

In considering the success of a game, unfortunately we all have to consider CoD. As gaming becomes more of a business and less of an art, the commercialization of the product overtakes the original vision.

Qubex
Qubex
9 years ago

Yes Jawknee, I also remember your comments on this specifically. What a pity if going multi-platform has devalued the game somewhat!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
9 years ago

Come the end of may this year i'll be a detective in the 1940's
Well at least untill june when i change my profession to that of an electrifying superhero.
AHAHAHA

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Hey you can't be copying my career path like that.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

Looks like a familiar path indeed 🙂

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

My path as well, except I'm hoping that somewhere in there will be a huge chunk of giant knight careering.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

I have prior experience as a house detective for 2 hotels, plus I've also worked crime cases in the security dept of two different major casino's, so this is my kind of game & I'm going be all over it.

THEVERDIN
THEVERDIN
9 years ago

I knew you were in Vegas when all hell broke loose. I'm with you this is my kind of game . I would be interested to see the sales between XBOX & PS3 on this. It should have been an exclusive for PS3, cause I think this is a mature gamers game.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

It will probably still see decent sales on the 360. Many of those who bought Red Dead probably have their eye on this one. Though I agree that it should have stayed exclusive. We would have gotten better textures. 😉

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

Techy,
Actually, I've never been to Vegas, & no desire to do there either. I'm up on the East Coast, up in the Atlantic City casino area.

And the closest I'll ever get to Vegas is while playing Fallout:New Vegas(once I get it),LOL


Last edited by BikerSaint on 3/14/2011 3:17:39 PM

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
9 years ago

BTW, I left you a reply on my collections in that other GameStop thread.


Last edited by BikerSaint on 3/14/2011 3:37:57 PM

SixSpeedKing
SixSpeedKing
9 years ago

As someone previously said, if it is anything like Heavy Rain it is an instant purchase for me.

I loved Heavy Rain and this game sort of looks like the same type of deal, where you investigate and piece the story together as you go along. I definitely have patience for games like this, I just wish more people did as well.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

I sincerely hope, and also believe, this is more of a *game* than Heavy Rain ever was.
The investigator-interface in Heavy Rain were pretty cool though.


Last edited by Beamboom on 3/14/2011 1:33:22 AM

FxTales
FxTales
9 years ago

The gaming world are an eclectic bunch and I've seen that through the success of titles like ICO and Heavy Rain as an example. I'd like to think that even the past-paced action junkies like a change in rhythm.

D1g1tal5torm
D1g1tal5torm
9 years ago

Excellent comment.

JSwayze
JSwayze
9 years ago

I won't have the patience because I'll be to busy with SOCOM 4 & Yakuza 4

Kiryu
Kiryu
9 years ago

Yes fellow anime fan,in the Yakuza series every game takes me months to complete!
Japanese Voices Rock!

Ricochet
Ricochet
9 years ago

Despite being a short game in itself, the pacing is slow and does require a lot of patience the fact is after seeing the sales on Heavy Rain WITH a 75% completion rate, I'm very hopeful with the community on similar based games (at least from the PS3 camp).

LA Noire looks to be great and unique. I'd bet anything Quantic Dream wishes it has similar MO-CAP tech. So far, most of the games for me are basically for the thrills and storyline (DS2 for instance. This game may be something good as breathing space between awesome exclusives.

But I'm gonna get YAKUZA 4 first. HHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

I think you have a good point. This reminds me of a poll or what ever it was that Lawless linked about how only 30% or so only finish the campaign of any given game. Also reminds of what Ubisoft said about how a very small number of people who actually bought Assassin's Creed 2 completed the game. While a great majority of them left it unfinished. Gamers attention spans are declining and the quick shot in the arm Call of Duty provides isn't helping in my opinion.

Ooops…I'm not supposed to talk about Call of Duty. The Sensitive Suzi's might be watching. =P

Anyway, I am thrilled to play this game. Like Red Dead Redemption, this one seems to be another breath of fresh air in a drowning sea of shooters and 5 hour campaigns.

SayWord
SayWord
9 years ago

I am also really excited to play this game. Something different is always fun.

Ps. Jawknee can you add my new psn, sayword01 hah

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I'm all for a long campaign, but to some people's credit certain games like that just get to be the same thing over and over and over. More long campaigns need to mix it up and stay fresh like Castlevania.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Haha, for sure Sayword.

Indeed World. I liked Red Dead's campaign though it started to drag at the end. Castlevania just got better and better and I want more!

Ricochet
Ricochet
9 years ago

I heard this game is a bit linear compared to other R* releases. However, after viewing the gameplay trailers, I'm not to keen with GPS technology existing at that time. Not to mention the RAGE engine which always ends up being sub-HD on the PS3.

I think they should ditch the GPS map function that is prevalent in the GTA series. It takes away the "investigative" mechanic they're trying to promote here in this game. If they expect us to note the finer details on the suspect(s)/evidence(s) in the game yet they can't expect us to read from the map traditionally? I have no problem doing this with Silent Hill. It makes us discover the world within LA Noire making us recognize "landmarks" and such.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Well, this game started development as a PS3 exclusive so hopefully we don't get screwed out of a full HD presentation this time around.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Just did some Googling. GameInformer said L.A. Noire isn't running on the Rage engine.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
9 years ago

I assure you that RAGE isn't being used. The game was in development for about two years before R* picked it up, and I doubt Team Bondi would change all the work they'd already done. It certainly does explain the patchy texture work compared to what we saw in GTA IV. It uses a lighting engine that I don't think has been used in a game, and nor do I think that it uses Euphoria.

Also, has it been confirmed that the minimap has GPS functionality?
Peace.

Ricochet
Ricochet
9 years ago

Is that so? Well, silly me. The graphics and game aesthetic is just too similar to RDR and GTAIV. However, this new info makes me feel more hopeful. Hopefully we'd get a decent port this time 'round.

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

It's not a port so you shouldn't have to worry about a good or bad one at all.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

What Kraygen said. This used to be a PS3 exclusive. The 360 is getting the port.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

The map will need some kind of GPS function or you'll just get lost driving. Most games have objective markers of some kind, its nothing to get bend out of shape about.

DazeOfWar
DazeOfWar
9 years ago

I've got it preordered. I have a feeling it's going to be great anyways.

SmokeyPSD
SmokeyPSD
9 years ago

F yes?

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

what is it with all of r* games taking a resolution hit on the ps3? i do no like that. as for this game, i'm not the biggest fan of time period. the heavy rain comparisons alone do have me interested, though.

i don't buy the 360 is holding back the textures. the overall size and scope of the game maybe. textures really come down to video ram, and the 360 has just as much as the ps3.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Less storage can translate into lower res textures. Especially since they have to fit a game this size on a single DVD.

Blu Ray makes a difference. Only need to look at God of War III, Uncharted and Killzone. No game on the 360 seems to sport texture resolutions that high. If it just came down to video ram we wouldn't have games on the PS3 that look that good.


Last edited by Jawknee on 3/14/2011 2:13:46 AM

Excelsior1
Excelsior1
9 years ago

gears of war had great textures. i don't own a 360, but going by what my eyes have seen i've seen nothing that indicates the 360 is a vastly inferior machine. i've seen dozens of games that somehow look better on the 360. i don't like it, but it is what it is.

btw, this is off topic, but does anybody know know if there is voice chat in re5?

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Gears of War also has a lot of texture pop in and texture loading. There's a comparison on the net some where of Uncharted Drakes Fortune and Gears 2. Drakes Fortune, a 2007 game, has far superior texture work. there isn't any game on the 360 with the level of graphic fidelity as the three I mentioned above. That's a fact.

Beamboom
Beamboom
9 years ago

There is voice chat in re5 coop.

___________
___________
9 years ago

its not about patience its about how they handle the game.
ive said this a million times about this game, im just worried there going to punish people too much for making the wrong choices and thus put them off playing the game.
ive seen a few trailers of your character been promoted, and ive seen a few trailers of your character being threatened of being fired.
now im making a assumption here, but if those are linked to how well you read interrogations then thats really going to hurt the games sales.
if you got someone on your back because you keep misinterpreting a suspect, then its not really fun is it?
if your constantly missing out on a promo, or a new car, or weapons, or levels or whatever because you cant tell if a person is lying or telling the truth then thats going to get really frustrating real fast.
i just hope they dont doom the player that is not a lie detector too much.
obviously you cant reward people if they dont get the right answer, so they need to try balance it out properly to have a reward and non reward but not to make people feel cheated out of it.
R* bondi have done themselves a real disservice, because, well they have not made things easy because its not exactly simple to tell if someones lying or not.
if it was why does the FBI and co spend millions in R&C on polygraphs and such?
this games got the potential to be heavy rain of 2011, so unique, so ambitious, i just hope they dont destroy that by making the game frustrating as hell because you keep getting sh*t flung at you because you cant tell if someones telling porkies or not.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
9 years ago

Well, from what I've heard, as long as you've got the evidence to back up your choices in the questioning, it shouldn't be too difficult to tell. You must remember that, while the MotionScan tech is capable of getting every reaction, Bondi has gone for a slightly exaggerated tact with their actors. That much is evident from the videos that I've seen, and it should make the overall experience slightly easier for the average player.

Besides, it's a linear experience. They've already said that your performance in catching the crims will have an effect, but you'll still be promoted, as long as you come to a conclusion. Remember, it is possible to put the wrong person behind bars.
Peace.

___________
___________
9 years ago

i have no doubt in the tech, it could be as good as real life it still is not going to make telling the porkies from the truth much easier.
a eagle eyed friend pointed out to me the ask the community option in the diary towards the end of the latest vid.
looks like will be able to ask others what they think, maybe they would have evidence we dont have.
i hope they just dont make the game too obscure.
everything you do can really stuff up the game, so i hope they dont make it too hard to stay on the straight and narrow.

thats what i liked about heavy rain, they could of made it that if you dont find certain bits of evidence you never catch the killer.
but they did not, if you dont find enough evidence they throw you several lifelines to compensate it.
i just hope LA Noire is like that.
as they say, shame on you if you fool me once, shame on me if you fool me twice.
i just hope the actions wont be too drastic.

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
9 years ago

The sleuthing I can cope with as I like the slower paced games but the way any type of combat is played out will help me determine whether I ant this title or not.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
9 years ago

Well, considering the low completion rate of games, it isn't a matter of patience, but of reward. Are enough people going to buy this to make it worth the while of Team Bondi? Of course, the natural patience of people plays into it, as that will influence their decision on whether or not to pick it up, but it isn't really the main factor.

I read a few commenters on IGN saying that they're going to go GTA on the game as soon as they can and set about shooting people and driving like a maniac. As always, I can see the appeal of that, but why would you want to when this game is so, SO much more than that?

I'm definitely buying this because I legitimately think it is a GotY contender. Because it seems like a genuinely interesting, innovative and rewarding game. And because it's one way of supporting the local economy. Heavy Rain was one major step towards maturity and new concepts in gaming and this is right beside it, or perhaps leaping off from it.
Peace.

Jalex
Jalex
9 years ago

I think the Rockstar brand will definitely lead to the game selling more than it would otherwise, but I'm unsure what percentage of people who play it will 'get' it.

The false notion that Rockstar is just one development team seems to continue leading people to believe that all the games they publish are going to be ''Grand Theft Auto' in the '????'' And I continue reading comments on the videos of the game, pondering when they're going to show more "real gameplay", i.e. more shooting. This expectation will likely frustrate many, who will either criticize the game's perceived lack of "real gameplay", or who will simply refuse to buy the title at all.

That's all guesswork, of course. The gaming world may surprise me, making this game a huge hit and showering it with accolades (which it appears to deserve).

Snaaaake
Snaaaake
9 years ago

The facial of this game is comparable to UC.
Can't say which one is better but UC obviously has better texture.