Crytek talks a lot about producing a top-tier title that pushes every piece of gaming hardware.

Recently, Crysis 2 executive producer Nathan Camarillo claimed the team is pushing the targeted consoles – PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 – to the maximum limit. In speaking to NowGamer , Camarillo specifically mentions the five-year-old Xbox 360 (he's referring to the game running on the 360) but seems to include the PS3 in his last statement when he refers to "consoles:"

"It’s a very, very powerful engine. It’s sapping power out of a five-year-old console that probably no-one thought was possible. Not only being able to reach this level of visual fidelity, but also doing it in 3D, and do it with these choreographed sandbox areas that are open with intelligent AI running around them at the same time, and scripted stuff going off and explosions, and weapons effects… it’s really tapping into every last ounce of power these consoles have."

We've heard this before and while Crysis 2 does look great, we're not entirely convinced it'll be the best looking PS3 game available. So when he says they're "tapping into every last ounce of power these consoles have," he must be referring to a development process that doesn't quite take advantage of all the PS3's strengths… Naughty Dog and other first-party devs might be able to help 'em out.

At any rate, we do have high hopes for Crytek's hotly anticipated sequel but the studio is only driving the hype through the roof. At this point, anything less than stellar will be a massive disappointment.

Related Game(s): Crysis 2

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kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

Oh come on now, this is a VERY pretty first person shooter. =)

ace_boon_coon
ace_boon_coon
9 years ago

Knowing EA, this will hit 30 bucks in 2 months. I just bought dead space 2 for 42 bucks brand new on amazon, so I know this will be half price pretty quick.

big6
big6
9 years ago

It's starting to get a little annoying hearing from all devs touting how they are "maxxing out the console's power".
Yes, they want to talk up their product to make a sale, sure…

But, when it's delivered, and we can all obviously see that other games are better looking/performing, what do they have to say to that?

I'm certain whatever Crysis 2 looks and performs like, that Killzone 3 will still be better in both areas. Uncharted 2, being a year and a half older, will still likely look better and perform smoother.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I agree, but I fully expect Crysis 2 to somehow pull down better scores than KZ3 at places like IGN.

FM23
FM23
9 years ago

Agree with both you guys here. I really really really hate that these guys are trying to make it seem like they are on another level compared to others devs. It's pathetic as they are calling unneeded attention.

And that score thing…lol

kevinater321
kevinater321
9 years ago

Maybe it will just be a good game…

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

Getting Crysis 2 on PC. Crytek are a lot like Valve, better developers on PC, not so much consoles.

Crysis 2 looks to shine bright on PC, but consoles are still relatively inferior in graphics and processing to modern day PC's, so I really don't see the need to get this on anything BUT PC.

As for the game itself… I'm just hoping the fun factor is higher than that of Uncharted 2. That game had graphics, story and great gameplay. If Crytek can match that in FPS form, than I will forgive their constant boasting.

Temjin001
Temjin001
9 years ago

hehe wow, I just barely finished watching a Crysis 2 "NOW PLAYING" feature on Gamespot.

First off, maybe it's just the drab area in the game, but KZ3's visuals Crysis 2 is not. Or is it really close for that matter.

Secondly, this game is looking much more interesting to me gameplay wise then I originally imagined.
While watching the video I liked how more methodical and tactical the game's design is compared to the crop of so many other FPS games on the market. Basically, I like the more sandbox design opposed to the more in your face linear high intensity shootouts you'd see from something like CoD and KZ. Not that I don't like that, it's just that there's plenty of "those types" to go around and KZ3 is looking to take take that crown already as it is and I wouldn't want another me-too twitch-fest.

Anyway, I think Crysis 2 is looking like a breath of fresh air for FPS, and barring out really poor reviews I'll be giving Crysis 2 a shot at some point.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I must admit the gameplay does look better than your standard cod outing.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

After seeing the 360 demo at a friends house, I am even further convinced that this game falls considerably short in terms of visuals when compared to the PS3 exclusives.

Why do certain studios talk so much??

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

Naughty Dog let their games do the talking, and that's why the people love them!

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

The game looks pretty good from a visual standpoint (for a multiplat), except for the character models, but they need to settle down. Console gamers aren't as eager to please as PC gamers. That, and we can smell an embellishment when we hear it.

Maybe they think with their approach they have "maxed out" a system, but the bottom line is anything that maxes out the 360 will fall short of maxing out the PS3. Well, unless their development process is extremely redundant and flawed.

I'm thinking bargain bin for me.


Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 2/17/2011 11:05:33 AM

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

World you are correct. Or atleast I agree with you that anything that maxes out the 360 will fall short on te PS3.

To solidify that point crytek keeps addressing the issue of which system the games runs better on and the response is both versions run n look the same.

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

Bargain bin at best.

ace_boon_coon
ace_boon_coon
9 years ago

It's funny how they say this maxes out consoles, yet Killzone 3 looks 3 times better. I played the demo and it's not that fun either.

BIGRED15
BIGRED15
9 years ago

this may b a first dayer. online looks intense. the narrative is supposedly professionally written i've seen the trailers and it looks impressive and thats putting it lightly. to b honest im more excited about this than kz3.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

yeah, thing is, they can say any narrative is professionally written so long as it's written by a professional writer… meaning they are paid with some writing training…

Killzone, CoD, Halo, MoH, etc. etc. are all "professionally written".

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
9 years ago

The writer of Crysis 2 actually has a couple of published novels under his belt, just so you know.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

What's his name, and what did he write?

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

So this could definitely be true, but if it is, then I guess those xbots will be bragging about the "wicked cool briefcase style dvd carrier" that it will have to come with.

Lets see, one dual layer Blu-ray = 6-10 dvd's, what a bargain they'll be getting. Unless you factor in the new shelf you have to buy to store it.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

It isn't true. They're full of it.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

I thought that with compression techniques with faster reading DVD, DVD can hold more than you give credit for. Due to Blu-ray's low reading speed, compression isn't as high.

Highlander, perhaps you could help me out with this?

A 360 DVD game can only hold a max of 9GB. But what if that is compressed? Blu-ray isn't compressed so that same game is about 18GB. Sure, no compression means the game might look or sound slightly better on PS3, but only barely, and it also comes down to how well the code is optimised for that specific console.

I'm not arguing that Blu-ray isn't big, because it certainly is, by a long shot!! But I'm thinking with compression techniques in mind, a blu-ray PS3 game may only equal a 3 or 4 disc DVD 360 game, tops.

Anyways, regardless of that, I'm sure Crysis 2 is being optimised using 1 engine that can run well on all machines, meaning once again the PS3 isn't being completely utilised to its full potential and we can all thank the 360 for holding back progression on multiplatform game development including the PS3.

kraygen
kraygen
9 years ago

Actually current dual layer blu-ray discs can hold 66GB I believe, last I checked, been a few months, could be higher now.

Yes a dvd can hold 9GB, but with the piracy issues and ease of pirating dvd's, most 360 games use 1-2 GB for protection coding. Which leaves only 7-8 GB for the game.

You can compress the information on dvd, but the more you compress, the more quality is lost. Meaning a blu-ray can hold over 60GB of uncompressed data and to do the math, it would take 6-10 dvd's to equal that.

somethingrandom
somethingrandom
9 years ago

Dual-layer Blu-ray Discs hold 50GB they cannot increase this (I don't know how you would magically reduce the wavelength of blue light to increase density in the disc). They can always add layers to increase storage capacity though.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

All their jibber jabber has actually made me less interested in this game. They talk to much. No way in hell does this max out the PS3 if this thing runs equal on both platforms. Just like Max, I watched my friend play this on his 360 while I was in California, Crytek has got to be kidding themselves if they think this game is going to be visually better than most PS3 exclusives on the market. Its just not gonna happen.

godsman
godsman
9 years ago

Yeah, same here. I was pretty excited over this game in the beginning. I was interested in seeing the best looking multiplatform game. I see nothing interesting about the game that really stand out from other shooters. I hear nothing but bragging, but I don't see exceptional results.

If i have to choose between Rage and Crysis 2, Rage is on the top of my list then.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

Me too. Rage looks much better than this. Judging from the 360 demo, RE5 and Castlevania still holds the best graphics for a multiplat award.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I think some of the gameplay for C2 might be newish compared to typical FPS, but for true newness I would also defer to Rage and even Brink.

As for the graphics, I think most folks just pretend games like Uncharted 2 and KZ3 simply don't exist or they don't know about them so they figure if their game equals exclusive graphics on the 360 then that must be the top of the line everywhere else.

… it like isn't though.

Dancemachine55
Dancemachine55
9 years ago

Unfortunately World, PS3 games are only in the spotlight for technical prowess for about a month when first released. Uncharted 2 is the one exception.

With the G4 and IGN awards for best graphics, the nominations were so bias towards 360 or multiplats, it wasn't funny. Seriously? Alan Wake over Heavy Rain? Halo Reach over Killzone? Assassin's Creed 2 over Uncharted 2? What the hell were these people smoking when they wrote that thing?!?!

godsman
godsman
9 years ago

I have only seen some gameplay videos of Crysis 2. So far I think the game world looks really empty. Crysis 2 excels in texture and lighting. They get a point for that, but in terms of details, it reminds me of Halo. It has nothing but huge open world, with flat grounds and giant crates for coverage.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

The game looks very bland. Poor art style.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

Agreed. Crysis 2 has that Halo effect going on, and everything feels static.

Wesleypipes6
Wesleypipes6
9 years ago

I was actually interested in the game until I downloaded the multiplayer demo on XBL. My console froze every time I connected to a match. The devs can tout about the specs of the game, but if it doesn't work properly, who cares. KZ3 will blow this game away.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
9 years ago

I held little interest in this title, until I read an interview with the writer a couple of days ago, and it piqued my interest. I doubt it'll be a D1P, but it looks like I'll still have to choose between Crysis 2 and Yakuza 4.
Peace.

NazzyQ
NazzyQ
9 years ago

The game DOES look pretty phenomenal and I think anyone saying otherwise is kidding themselves. Of course, it's arguable whether or not it compares visually to the likes of the stunning Uncharted 2 or whatever PS3 exclusive you care to mention, but I'm not going to go into that here.
There are some extremely talented multiplatform developers out there, and they include the likes of Criterion,Crytek and many others. They tend to be overlooked, because they don't champion a particular platform. If Naughty Dog say they are improving physics or animations or particle effects, we applaud them (and rightly so).Yet, if a multiplatform developer like Crytek says the same, we automatically dismiss their comments, becuase they can't possibly be using all of the PS3s power. That may be right, but talented developers can work around hardware limitations. Its part of their job
The 360 is certainly showing its age, but its not crippling multiplatform development.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

I think the problem is that the changes from say Uncharted 1 to 2 or KZ2 to 3 are clearly visible whereas multiplat devs keep on talking about how fantastic their games are and this new tech and how it will max out the PS3 and then it releases and there is no discernible difference from the average multiplat. So yeah, people get to a "meh" point when they hear this.

I think LA Noire will be an exception though, that face stuff is definitely a noticeable tech advancement.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

It's not arguable. It's a cold hard fact, Crysis 2, at this stage DOES NOT look as good as most PS3 exclusives.

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
9 years ago

I think the only one kidding themselves is you NazzyQ.

That game is nowhere near the exclusives on the PS3.

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

"but its not crippling multiplatform development."

::facepalm::

FFXIII and the slew of games that had content cut or only last 3 to 6 hours beg to differ. Another cold hard fact, the 360 has been and will continue to hamper multiplatform development.

Snorge
Snorge
9 years ago

Um correct me if Im wrong….isnt this Crytek's FIRSt multiplat game…didnt they only do PC before this!? And the 360 not hindering the industry thing…dude….have you ever heard of the DVD gimp effect?

360 has singlehandley almost destroyed this genearation of gaming. And if you feel like we automatically dismiss them cause they're multiplat, you're wrong…we dismiss them because they are REALLy trying to hype there game up and CLEARLY it doesnt compare to the likes of Killzone, Uncharted or even God of War!

We just want the facts and not some big announcement every 2-3 months about how they're the new multiplat gods. (Well maybe not that far, but you get the point.)

I was actually excited about this game until I saw it in action….maybe its me but it looks nowwhere near as good as the first on the PC running at max! And how long ago was that?

SirLoin of Beef
SirLoin of Beef
9 years ago

The original Crysis was a pretty game, too. However, everyone I know who played it, as well as many reviews I read, said that the actual game wasn't all that great. No, it wasn't bad, just was pretty standard fare, game-wise. I wonder Crysis 2 will suffer the same fate?

FM23
FM23
9 years ago

Seriously…what is Crysis? (rhetorical questoion) Just my two cents.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Rhetorical? Sure you didn't mean a sarcastic question?

Bloodysilence19
Bloodysilence19
9 years ago

im still deciding to get crysis or not. i just want real ps3 gameplay like demo or mp. i hardly doubt crytek maxes the ps3 out especially being a multiplate game.look at the track record of multiplate games they always seem to look like crap on ps3 and outstanding on 360. only few games look the same that i can think re5, dante inferno, and me2. i just don't get why they think the max out the ps3, when clearly not even nd has done it and they are way better dev than crytek. until i see a demo on ps3 or mp of crysis something i cant believe the hype train on it.


Last edited by Bloodysilence19 on 2/17/2011 1:25:22 PM

aaronisbla
aaronisbla
9 years ago

not sure which game some saw here, but in my opinion, from what ive seen in person, its probably one of the best looking multiplatform games ive seen. But i think rage and brink look better than this.

But i also haven't seen anything from Rage that made me go 'holy sh!t, thats awesome!, all ive seen is really good textures and open worldness. Thats great and all, but if its boring, no amount of graphical fidelity will help it

Jawknee
Jawknee
9 years ago

It certainly doesn't look bad for a multiplat, just lacking in the creative art direction imo.

Rage on the other hand looks a lot like Fallout 3 with waaaaay better graphics. Which is good enough for me. ūüôā

aaronisbla
aaronisbla
9 years ago

yeah, i get that vibe from it also, really looking forward to it

NazzyQ
NazzyQ
9 years ago

FFXIII certainly was a game that was hampered by multiplatform development, I agree. But there are certain multiplats that still really shine despite the 360s limitations. Titles like Dead Space 2, Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood, and the upcoming LA Noire, which looks superb. I think what I'm trying to say here, but probably haven't conveyed that well, is that first-rate developers can work with such limitations, at least for the time being. Inevitably, of course, there will eventually come a point when their ambitious projects simply can't be realized on the 360's antiquated hardware. Right?

Snorge
Snorge
9 years ago

Agreed with LA Noire, BUT I have a feeling the textures would look THAT much better if it was an exclusive…the faces are incredible but for some reason the textures didnt look as good as Heavy Rain (closest game in my opinion to compare)

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Yeah, Nazzy, I understand what you mean and where you're coming from. And you make a good point that there are multiplat and 360 exclusive titles that deliver quality gaming experiences for sure.

I don't think anyone here is (realistically) disputing that with you. I think the issue people are having is the fact that the Crytek guy is claiming he's maxing out a console that will blow our minds. Certainly, they could make a great quality game, but I think people, including myself, are skeptical that he's somehow creating a game with so much processing power, we'll be blown away.

You know what I mean? No doubt, it could be an amazing game despite limitations. But busting through system limitations into something that "taps every ounce of power our systems have"?

Yeah… not sure that can be done with both 360 AND PS3 at the same time. And that's what people are arguing.