I don't know if you've heard, but Final Fantasy XIV – currently only available on PC – is…well, sorta broken.

Depending on the source, the game is averaging about a 4 or 5 for an overall review score, which isn't only well below Square-Enix standards; it's well below anyone's standards. The problems seem to be severe and numerous and the response has reached the developer. Their reaction? Well, it's kind of like someone took all the wind out of their sails; they're obviously a little embarrassed and they've offered to extend the free trial . They also issued the following statement:

"We would like to assure players that the world of FINAL FANTASY XIV is constantly growing and evolving, and the voices of the community are essential to that process. The development and management teams are carefully considering all player feedback, and working diligently to implement whatever changes and additions will serve to make Eorzea a better home for adventurers. We humbly ask for your continued support to this end."

The game is supposed to show up on the PlayStation 3 at some point, but evidently, certain problems meant that a simultaneous launch was out of the question. …maybe they didn't erase those problems in the PC version, either. The point is, things are looking bleak for the game, but might PS3 owners have a glimmer of hope? As noted by Wrecked Gamer , all this backlash might be a good thing. The developers know a lot of things are wrong and in turn, they wouldn't release the same shoddy product on the PS3, right…?

They have time to fix the issues and are well aware of what happens if they don't. Personally, I don't do MMOs and I don't care if the game ever shows up, but I know fans of the genre don't want to be disappointed. Maybe we could be optimistic about this…

Related Game(s): Final Fantasy XIV

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Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
11 years ago

I never played any FF games ever in my life.
Am I going to get thumbed down for that?

Temjin001
Temjin001
11 years ago

Yes, yes you will.

Underdog15
Underdog15
11 years ago

Is the grass often green?
Is the sky often blue?
Is poop often brown?
Your post here is too!

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
11 years ago

“ Yes, yes you will ”
LOL I saw it coming from a mile away!

Temjin001
Temjin001
11 years ago

btw, I've learned that when you're feeling down you can give yourself a thumbs up

=p

It helps take the edge off of the truth =)

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
11 years ago

Yeah, well I thumbed you up!! Why? Who cares if you haven't?

Underdog15
Underdog15
11 years ago

I thumbed him down. Not because he hasn't played it and I think he should. I thumbed him down because I felt his post was pointless, dumb, and added nothing to the topic of conversation other than a prod to test for thumbs down. I obliged. No offense.


Last edited by Underdog15 on 10/21/2010 12:50:27 PM

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
11 years ago

I gave him a thumbs up because he's clearly gay.

Underdog15
Underdog15
11 years ago

@LV
lol ya, you did!

shadowpal2
shadowpal2
11 years ago

Haha…at least play the FF's during the PSX generation!

As for this article – can ps3 owners expect a better final fantasy xiv? Better than PC – sure, most likely.

For the actual game being good or worthwhile – NOPE NOT AT ALL $quare Enix continues to disappoint this generation.

Underdog15
Underdog15
11 years ago

I have some hope. Some big issues have already been remedied.

For example, they've overhauled the bazaar/market system where you make purchases from other players (much crisper and easier to shop now. At launch, I didn't even TRY to shop through other people's wares. Now there's actually a leveling up feature for your retainer who sells stuff for you!)

They've fixed an issue with distributing exp, they've fixed a variety of other annoying bugs, they've fixed equipment issues, and they're reporting a large number of other fixes on the way.

Not too many cool features added yet, though… basically, it's just been a lot of broken stuff corrected. They still have a ways to go, but it hasn't even been a month yet, and tons have been fixed.

I doubt the PS3 release will be perfect, but I definitely have hope it'll be immensely better than it was at PC release. Try thinking of the PC release as a PS3 beta…. lol

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
11 years ago

It's hard not to see Microsoft as the epicenter of where SE is right now, but man, once FF13 went multiplatform, things have not looked right in my eyes.

Underdog15
Underdog15
11 years ago

No doubt. Things haven't clicked very well in recent days….

maxpontiac
maxpontiac
11 years ago

They haven't, and it's also the first time in awhile I haven't bought a FF game.

Go figure.

Underdog15
Underdog15
11 years ago

On the flip side, I didn't get involved in FFXI until about 3-4 years after launch. From what I hear, it was an incredibly different game than what it is now. So there could be hope….

maybe…..

Zemus101
Zemus101
11 years ago

That was definitely the case with FFXI when it first launched on PC, so there is some hope that FFXIV will evolve into an awesome MMO experience by the time it hits our PS3.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
11 years ago

I saw this a mile away after taking part in the beta. It just didn't seem right, I was hoping the final product would be different but thankfully I chose to cancel my order with Amazon and wait a few weeks to see what everyone thought of the game and sure enough everything that failed in the beta seems to have not been fixed.

There is incredible lag involved with the game. You can run through a town for 5 minutes and see nothing but ghosts, not until you stop for a minute do people's skins eventually load onto the screen.

Underdog15
Underdog15
11 years ago

I had the same issue with lag as you LV, until I switched up to Windows 7. I don't know why that made a difference… maybe it's because of the fresh install and lack of CPU usage, I dunno. But those compatibility issues should not occur, whether you have Vista or 7 as long as the specs remain the same.

I too hope they fix these lag issues. (Which happen in congested areas like towns, etc.)


Last edited by Underdog15 on 10/21/2010 12:40:27 PM

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
11 years ago

Hmm, I've been running Windows7 since its release last fall and my computer specs are magnificent. The game doesn't look good enough to push the hardware as much as it does.

Underdog15
Underdog15
11 years ago

yeah, it's a greedy-sonuva-biznit piece of programming.

SvenMD
SvenMD
11 years ago

I don't think there's any hope. You can turn a 4 or 5 into a 6, MAYBE. But there's no way you're going to turn a 4 or 5 game into a 7.5+ this late in development.

They may fix some minor problems, and the game may turn out slightly better on the PS3, but I think it will stay broken overall.

Underdog15
Underdog15
11 years ago

I strongly disagree, Sven. FFXI did just that. The gameplay structure at it's core, is incredibly fun and wonderful. It's the bugs and brokenness that prevents it from being a smooth experience. You constantly have to almost manipulate the programming into working on screen. The bugs make the game barely playable, but if updates can remove those glitches and deliver what's there under the surface into something that's a little more fluid, it's an easy 7+ game.

Add on a few storyline expansions, and it's an 8+ game.

The main issues in this title are poor development. It has a load of wonderful pieces that could make it a wonderful experience, but the bridges that connect those pieces are missing. Once those are bridged, it's a quality game.

SvenMD
SvenMD
11 years ago

You said yourself that you got FFXI 3-4 years after it came out. It was clearly a vastly different game when you got it than when it was first released. That's the luxury that devs have with any MMO or online game….it can be updated and changed and they can make a good game out of a glitchy/bugged game.

But that's not my point. I don't think they can change enough before this comes to the PS3 to make it a 7.5+ game. I could care less if 3-4 years down the road they've made it into a decent game….if they've spent 8 years total in development then they better damn well get it right by then.

That's kinda like selling us DLC 3 months after a game comes out with "new" levels…BS, they just cut them out of the original game, instead of giving us a polished finished game. (or they're just greedy)

Underdog15
Underdog15
11 years ago

That's fair. I did just get a newsletter though for some relevant information to the updates.

http://na.square-enix.com/newsletter/ff14_101022/

These updates make some big differences. The two most major complaints of the game are being addressed here: The user interface and the targeting system. It's also nice that there will be a search function to the market now.

Those three alone will make an absolutely maaaaassssiiiivee difference.

Still wish they'd address the laggy server issues.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

Oh dear, perhaps the PS3 version will turn out to be the thing that saves FFXIV because if the PC version is so bug ridden and broken, but the PS3 version arrives relatively cleanly, it could provide a boost to the platform (FFXIV) as well as the PS3 itself.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
11 years ago

Well we both know the PC enables faster changes by the developers after a game's initial release so by the time the PS3 version comes out (March) I expect both versions to be the same. Basically there is no hope for the PS3 version, lol.


Last edited by LimitedVertigo on 10/21/2010 1:27:21 PM

TheCrazyMerc
TheCrazyMerc
11 years ago

They should be able to learn from their mistakes and bugs from the PC version, making the ps3 version better.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

@LV, but the PC version will be tainted by it's bug ridden past…

SvenMD
SvenMD
11 years ago

Highlander – People forget very quickly. It doesn't look many peoples ideals changed due to a certain failure ridden console after it first came to market…..they just kept buying it.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

@sven,

While I think you are correct in the console market, I'm not so sure that can be said of the PC game market.

Wissam
Wissam
11 years ago

They really screwed this game hard time didn't they ?

Hezzron
Hezzron
11 years ago

Given the choice between FF14 and crap-on-a-stick, I'll take crap-on-a-stick every time. The only difference is there's no monthly charge for crap-on-a-stick.

See? Logic is easy!

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
11 years ago

Things always taste better when you pay for them. I can't imagine free crap tasting very good.

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

Well if you find a stick somewhere… and pry it into the game box…

Damn. No good. You'd still have to pay for it.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

Bummer. I was going to give this a try but now i probably wont.

Scarecrow
Scarecrow
11 years ago

Sorry Squeeeenix, I think I'll pass on FFXIV. WKC all the way! Maaaybe if you fix it up really well and make it worth the "pay per month"

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
11 years ago

I see what we have here. A good ole fashion tug of war. You spread your love for WKC on the site and I'll follow your comments around and add a little reality to them.

Hoohaaw!

Scarecrow
Scarecrow
11 years ago

Tug of war? what?

You think ONE comment in a game site will get thousands to buy it? Gamers are not that naive.

They can get the game if they want, if not it's their loss *shrug*

GuardianMode
GuardianMode
11 years ago

Im hoping for the fixes on the PS3 side. I loved FFXI and played it for 4 years. Fought/beat the Kings,took down the Dynamis Bosses and even died to Absolute Virtue. I made some great friends and hope to continue the run with XIV.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
11 years ago

I'm not tech savvy so maybe my logic is a little fuzzy here, but…between the PS3, 360, & the PC, I thought the PC version is the easiest to develop for.

Sooooo, if they can't even get the easiest to develop for, PC version right, than how can they even expect to get the game right, on the much harder PS3's architecture???

Ah, don'tcha just love the smell of my brain cells frying the morning?


Last edited by BikerSaint on 10/21/2010 2:36:29 PM

Underdog15
Underdog15
11 years ago

Something's frying, alright!

😉

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

well, far be it for me to call another developer lazy, but in m y personal experience an easy development environment actually allows (almost encourages) lazy and sloppy coding. A more difficult, tighter environment demands more attention to detail because things are more likely to fail completely if there is a mistake made.

I'd say that the PC version also may not have been coded to the same standard as the console version because of the ease of update and the in-house quality assurance. With console games you have to meet certain platform requirements, and standards, and you have to submit your product for evaluation. Any patches delivered through XBL or PSN are also quality checked by MS/Sony prior to becoming available. So again, there is good reason for the development on the consoles to be tighter and less 'easy' than on the PC, encouraging better coding practice.

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
11 years ago

I smell bacon!

Scarecrow
Scarecrow
11 years ago

Same

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Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

Ah yes. The old "constantly growing and evolving" line. You've got us all fooled SE. We'll pay your salary while you try to figure out why the hell your company can't make a proper Final Fantasy. Sure. No problem.

This PC release is nothing but a beta. They knew full well their game was incomplete and utterly confounded in its attempt at gameplay so they turned to harvesting PC gamers' money while they try to figure out what the hell went wrong.

To release a PS3 version within months of such horrendous critical reviews would be retarded. They're most likely going to delay it along with VSXIII as they use every last resource to try and erase this embarrassment.

LightShow
LightShow
11 years ago

i actually had a friend ask me recently why people still play ancient mmos like everquest or FFXI…

Exhibit A.

Macavity
Macavity
11 years ago

You mean UO?

Rings0fUranus
Rings0fUranus
11 years ago

UO is still the king of MMO! 😉

LightShow
LightShow
11 years ago

those are just the ones he mentioned. i'm no mmo historian, but there are definately better reasons to play old (yet viable) mmos, as opposed to new, untested mmos.

eLLeJuss
eLLeJuss
11 years ago

I have the pc game and i say im pretty disappointed at it. The battle is pretty laggy. i hate it when theres like 4 second delay when u command an attack. Theres too much talking and too much walking. You'll have to kill bunny rabbits and little squirrels for like 3 weeks to be able to kill an oversized chicken (not chocobo).Items need to be crafted. And the level limit is pretty annoying.