I've always supported multi-console ownership. I feel naked with one console, even during my RPG craze of the original PlayStation era, when I basically despised the N64. Well, I loved the RPGs on the PC, too, so it was still technically "multi-platform," and ever since then, I've never only owned just one system. This is because there are always worthwhile games on all available consoles; the only question is whether there are enough of them – in your mind – to warrant a purchase.

Now, there have always been fans of particular consoles but at their core, even opposing fans are usually similar. They may have personal preferences, but they all tend to cherish and appreciate certain aspects of the industry. In looking at the PS3 and Wii, I realized that for the very first time, we might be looking at two extraordinarily different platforms that have spawned extraordinarily different followers; hence, we may be looking at two very different groups. The first comparison factor most will select is age, which is expected: the average demographic and target audience is indeed different for Sony and Nintendo, as both companies have plainly stated in the past. And you don't need that verification, either; anyone can see the distinct difference in target audience simply by opening their eyes. But this goes well beyond that…look at the consoles in question.

One claims to continually push the industry forward via cutting-edge technology and wishes to produce the software that defines progression and excellence. The other openly admits to not competing on the same technical level, while at the same time initially offering something new in motion sensing, and providing old and new gamers with widely accessible entertainment. I have no statistics to back it up, but I absolutely guarantee that more non-gamers have bought a Wii than any other console in history; it dragged in those who never played games before, from the ages of 8 to 88. That's nothing trivial and we all have to accept that it's quite the accomplishment and – perhaps indirectly – can be considered a boon for the industry on the whole. Those Wii-only casual gamers may get more involved and wish to dive in deeper, when Sony and Microsft will instantly benefit.  It has probably already happened.

So maybe in time, Wii fans will become more similar to PS3 and 360 fans but right now, I think we're not only looking at different audiences, we're looking at different audiences that value very different things. The Wii aficionados will quickly get all defensive and say they like "fun" and Nintendo does "fun" and doesn't waste time with uber-insane technicals. But that's an inherently faulty argument as I honestly believe I've had plenty of FUN with my PS3 and 360 titles; arguably far more FUN than I would have had with most any Wii title. "Fun" is entirely subjective, of course. But you can add nostalgia and classic gaming into this argument, as Nintendo has stuck to their guns (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc.) throughout, and we've started to see new franchises, heroes and mascots from the other two. Lastly, online play being as huge as it is, that pretty much leaves the Wii out of the conversation, which sets the Wii even further apart.

All I know is that any time I ever talk to anyone who only owns a Wii, they are either an admitted casual gamer (to the point where they never played video games before the Wii), or they have very little interest in "cutting-edge" and anything of that sort. I can't recall a time in history when any fan of any console wanted things that are so very…different. That's all.

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piratedrunk
piratedrunk
12 years ago

Great article. While I agree that in a broad sense the audiences are quite different I can say that it is because the PS3 and Wii are so different that makes me appreciate both so much.

I play all kinds of games so with both systems I can play absolutely anything that fits my mood. I think they compliment each other very nicely.

eLLeJuss
eLLeJuss
12 years ago

LoL Most of the Wii fans don't appreciate other consoles because Wii is the only console there parents buy them(Kids).

Scarecrow
Scarecrow
12 years ago

@piratedrunk,

Exactly!
The xbox has always just been a Playstation clone.

Nintendo's consoles have always been unique. You always know you'll get something different with the Wii compared to the ps3/360

@eLLeJuss,

Not true, as Ben noted, the Wii has been bought by EVERYONE, from age 8 to age 88

So this whole "kids" notion is pure BS

I think those who only a Wii just prefer the artistic/colorful games and don't really give a damn 'bout shooting your friend in the head online.

Simple as that

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

"I have no statistics to back it up, but I absolutely guarantee that more non-gamers have bought a Wii than any other console in history"

I concur. The Wife and I have been house hunting, we've seen about 30 something houses and just about every one of them had a Wii. No PS3's or Xbox360's.

I also agree most who only own a Wii are not core gamers. My dad for example, he wanted a gaming system, i told him to go with the PS3 because he also likes HD but because of the price(at the time) and what he perceived as the "fun factor" he opted for the Wii. Well he never plays it and is now asking me what do look for when buying a PS3. ha!

I wanted to the best of the best. Seems PS3/Wii is the best combo you could go with considering just about every game on the Xbox is also on the PS3 and like piratedrunk said, they are so different.

Gears, Halo and Fable aren't worth the price of admission in my opinion.


Last edited by Jawknee on 6/21/2010 1:05:05 PM

frylock25
frylock25
12 years ago

gears and halo have games that can out do them on ps3 and fable is about the only game i want to play on 360. with all the great content on the ps3 i dont think i will have time to even worry about trying that game.

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

I watched a friend play Fable II for about 2 hours. I Seriously didn't understand what was so great about it. The graphics are bad, the story seems dull and boring and the characters were irrelevant. I don't get it, probably never will.

Then again i don't understand why people fawn over any Xbox exclusives. Non of them hold a candle to PS3 exclusives and even some Wii games for that matter. The amount of color used in Nintendo Made games alone beats most of whats on the Xbox.


Last edited by Jawknee on 6/21/2010 1:18:37 PM

frylock25
frylock25
12 years ago

what it seems to me is that the people playin the 360 games talkin down about the ps3 didnt have the money to buy the ps3. now that they are so deep in with the 360 buying crappy games and add-ons to the system they dont want to give up that glimpse of it being "the system they always wanted"

hell they still think natel will be the bomb that finally kills the ps3

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

At least your dad can game, mine is a Dinosaur, he just can't do it.

just2skillf00l
just2skillf00l
12 years ago

Fable is one of the greatest games I've ever played. I'm a sucker for narration, story, RPG elements, aging, swords, and magic. I can't say that everyone will like it but I do know why the series is successful and will continue. It's the only game series I really want for the 360 so I have successfully repressed my singular urge for the purchase. Fable is one of those games you have to play…just watching it isn't enough.

frylock25
frylock25
12 years ago

any time i have talked to anyone that owns only a wii, they talk about it like it is the greatest thing ever made because you have to get up and move to use it. i have tried telling them about the move but the just insist the wii is better. almost the same with people with xboxs and that natel/kinect crap. my buddy think that will be so awesome. his words exactly "we just wont be able to do shooters". how ironic when thats almost all that broken box is known for.

most people i know with wii's have very few games for it and really dont use it unless its socially. my cousin and i are huge on our ps3's he owns a 360 (his third) also. we have played the wii really about one time at another cousins house of ours. it was not impressive.

my aunt owns a wii and she actually uses it on a regular basis. she plays online with a younger cousin of mine since they live states away from eachother. that same aunt actually bought a blueray player instead of a ps3 because she thought the blueray player would be better. just shows what kind of thinking some people have. my dad was looking into a new tv and blueray kinds of things. i told him how sony invented blueray and was pushing all this tech, 2 weeks later he went out and bought a 55' samsung and a ps3. sadly he is far from a gamer but i can hope to bring it back out after 20 something years of being dormant.

i would have to say that the wii attracts a much different minded person than the ps3. not to say some wont like both.

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

"most people i know with wii's have very few games for it"

I have very few games as well. =/ But i did play the crap out of all of them. My Wii collection grew to about 10 games while my PS3 only had two, but since 2008, i think i have only added two games to my Wii collection and about 20 to my PS3 collection.

frylock25
frylock25
12 years ago

you know sometime in 2008 was when i remember the last time they announced a great game for the wii. about that time my buddy that had a wii (still does) realized he needed a ps3. his gf and him dont even touch it anymore. i still own my gamecube and and gba. i dont feel the wii has enough games for me to pay that much for the system. the finding a used wii at dirt cheap price sounds good lately. if only to get my ps3 back from my kid and gf. guess i could save the money and just hook up the gamecube.

did nintendo ever release that windwaker graphic redo??

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

I don't believe they did but i have been asking for a Wii Port of Wind Waker ever since it was rumored Metroid Prime 1 and 2 were coming to the Wii.

Nintendo needs to get on it! They started porting Gamecube games with Wii controls in 2008 i think.(though most of these have been Japan releases) Hopefully Wind Waker is in the works.

Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks are my favorite Zelda titles to date.


Last edited by Jawknee on 6/21/2010 2:46:47 PM

frylock25
frylock25
12 years ago

i still own the zelda pack with the four full games of zelda i got with my gamecube. it was the reason i got it. hell yeah ill pay $100 for a system and 4 great games. i have that gameboy player for the few gameboy games i have. but windwaker def was my fav hooking up my gba and sailing around. i wish i would have beaten that one. i could try to pick up my save file after like 4 years.

nintendo has given me a lot of gaming memories and it almost seems like it would be weird for them to change at this point. with everything going hi-def at this piont though they may have to step the game up soon.

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

Wii HD needs to happen.

frylock25
frylock25
12 years ago

Wii hd is happening, its called PS3 with move support. 😉

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

Ha! this is true.

Oh, how i would love to play Skyward Sword in sweet 1080p goodness though!

Alienange
Alienange
12 years ago

Pac-Man, Centipede and Missile Command are the classics. Lousy graphics, poor sound effects and repetitive gameplay doesn't make Wii games "classic."

As a side note, nostalgia is not always a plus. Nostalgia makes you wish you were playing the beloved Nintendo games of yesteryear. The Wii has not filled that void and it has led to much frustration on the part of those who got a Wii hoping for a little positive nostalgia.

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

What games do you have for the Wii?

Alienange
Alienange
12 years ago

Do you really want to know? I have quite a few.

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

I just wanted to get an idea of what you were playing on your Wii. You said they haven't filled the void.

Send me a message to my PSX inbox if you want to tell me. No worries if you don't.

johnld
johnld
12 years ago

my games for the wii, mario galaxy 1, smash bros, and new super mario bros wii….thats it. all my zelda games are on gamecube. i have over 40 ps3 games though. i just never found any good games to buy for the wii.

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

They have been few and far in between.

Snicket
Snicket
12 years ago

One of the best articles I have read here Ben, and that's saying something, well done.

I remember reading a survey that that studied how many hours people spent playing games on a platform (PS3, 360, Wii etc…) what the study found was that while more people bought a Wii, people spent more time playing the Gamecube (in terms of hours) than the Wii, in fact the Wii was dead last in terms of hours people spent playing it.

Now if you look at the Wii with that study and this article in mind, you can really get a clear picture of who is useing the wii and what for.

ace_boon_coon
ace_boon_coon
12 years ago

i admit the wii is fun. i had my mother sisters, and GF playing it and they all hate video games. but i've had way more fun playin my ps3.

NeoHumpty
NeoHumpty
12 years ago

My Wii is good for a game of Mario with the family about once a week or so. I almost never play it when I have my gaming time unless I'm in the mood for some 20 year old NES games which doesn't happen often, but does happen. I have a hard time keeping up with ps3 releases as it is.

I'd love to see how many total hours I have in on ps3 vs. my Wii. Hell, I have 60 hours in as an Engineer alone on Team Fortress. I'd bet I don't have 60 hours total invested in the Wii.

johnld
johnld
12 years ago

ive spent 110+ hours on dynasty warriors gundam 2 and that game didnt really have much of a story and barely any multiplayer. i needed to play multiplayer because it needed to get the 3 online trophies for platinum.


Last edited by johnld on 6/21/2010 4:16:22 PM

kraygen
kraygen
12 years ago

I really don't understand people's obsession with wii, you can play most of their games sitting down, you barely have to move the controller at all, so what's the point.

Might as well just pick up a NES or SNES and get all the nostalgia, same graphics, and excitement as the wii.

TEG3SH
TEG3SH
12 years ago

I can see where u're coming from, I hate the wii for different reasons never owned and I don't think I'll own a nintendo product, but again I said the same about M$ before ……

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

@Kraygen to be fair some of the games require more then just a flick of the wrist. Especially those being made with the Wiimotion Plus in mind.

As for the graphics, while they aren't the best they are better then the Gamecube and the PS2. Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 look great as well as Metroid Prime Trilogy. Its not a PS3 but it is much, much more then just and NES or SNES with motion controls.

kraygen
kraygen
12 years ago

@ jawknee

I'll believe most of what you say, however mario games can't really scream good graphics. It's a short cartoon character, nothing even remotely difficult about him in a graphic sense.

I've seen a lot of gameplay from wii games and never seen one that could compare to ps2 or gamecube.

Heck the new 007 goldeneye looks exactly like the n64 version. Wii is n64 graphics at best.

Show me a link if you've got a game that looks better, but I don't consider cartoons graphical feats of engineering, no matter how fun mario is.

TEG3SH
TEG3SH
12 years ago

360 and Ps3 for me is the best gaming experience ever

Reccaman18
Reccaman18
12 years ago

And PC 🙂

TEG3SH
TEG3SH
12 years ago

I'm not a big found of Pc gaming as I have a Mac I dont have many options but PVZ is awesome though

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
12 years ago

I had a workmate commenting on how he got a Wii for exercise and it was going to help him work out and all this, I laughed at him.

My father was watching a piece on A Current Affair about how the Wii was in nursing homes helping to keep the oldies on their feet. He said it was a good idea and I told him it was a gaming console. He flipped the coin. Hypocrite…

I don't own a Wii personally and do not want to. It is not an exercise machine, despite common belief. It is not designed with the hardcore audience in mind. It is a social console. Something for parties and the novelty. That being said, there is a massive gap in the people that play the Wii exclusively and those that play the 360/ps3 exclusively. Would I say that it is completely different in terms of the thought processes, no. Why you ask? Both groups are willing to immerse themselves in the experience that is on offer, and while they may be completely different experiences, there is still that lingering mentality. Oh damn, I was going to write something else but it slipped my mind…
Peace.

Underdog15
Underdog15
12 years ago

I have a phys ed degree, and every time I hear people call it an "exercise machine", I laugh very hard on the inside. It's a gaming console that often requires you to stand and wiggle around a bit. I'm sorry, but it simply is not an exercise machine, nor is it an appropriate substitute for real exercise.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
12 years ago

I can't just laugh on the inside… I laugh at them for thinking any such ludicrous thing.
Peace.

SvenMD
SvenMD
12 years ago

I agree with everything in the article except the last paragraph. Obviously that is just your own personal observation, but I think this site proves that some Wii owners are in fact hard-core gamers who have been playing for years and like the cutting edge as well. However, the reason most of us have it is because we are married, or have kids…which are the two main reasons to getting a Wii.

Now I can't say that I'm a big-time Wii player. I bought it for the wife and for parties…and I mainly play the Super Mario Galaxy games and then the Metroid Trilogy. And in my opinion those 5 games are worth the purchase of a Wii. All the other games are either too "kiddy" or they can be done much better on the PS3.

So I agree with Jawknee that the best combo is the PS3/Wii…it just keeps everyone happy. But honestly the Wii is in fact just for "fun", the PS3 is for the bad ass effin' awesomeness!!!

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
12 years ago

And yet, "awesomeness" is an equally subjective term in comparison to "fun." 😉

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
12 years ago

How about "The Sickness"? PS3 brings the sickness.

ABUrabad
ABUrabad
12 years ago

its simple the Wii isn't a console for hardcore gamers thats why we have 2 different followers for each console type
i don't have a Wii at home but i respect it for its originality and beside that the PS3 owns Wii a great favor i think,because i think when the Xbox was released a year earlier than a PS3 it had the
chance to get a lot more console owners that have transfered to the last generation consoles but lot of them preferred to transfer to Wii and that kept the console sale's figure of both Xbox and PS3 close for each other at this moment, without Wii i think that we would look a greater difference at the sale's chart in the favor to the Xbox


Last edited by ABUrabad on 6/21/2010 2:16:10 PM

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
12 years ago

I thought that the Wii was released only a few months before the ps3, so your logic may be broken, or I may be wrong.

TheOldOne
TheOldOne
12 years ago

The reason I bought the PS3 was because of the games and the blu-ray (I bought it when MGS4 came out). Two years later we bought the Wii, specially because of the casual games like Mario Wii and Resort, and also because of the Wii Fit (my wife loves it). I think like many others have said, that one console complements the other. Now the Move it's supposed to eliminate that need of another console to complement the PS3.

Sol
Sol
12 years ago

I don't believe that the Wii isn't for hardcore gamers. I've had fun playing the Wii and enjoy some of the games on it. I don't play it that much seeing as I don't own one yet, but I want it and some of the games on it and the Gamecube. Also, the fact that I can download old Nintendo (and others'…) titles is appealing to me. True gamers must never forget their roots, and mine started with the NES and the Mario/Duck Hunt cartridge. There has never been a moment where I didn't enjoy a Nintendo console, but first and foremost I know what I want out of a console and get it for those reasons. I will purchase a black Wii at some point, just like I will a 360.

frylock25
frylock25
12 years ago

i have worn a tshirt that has an old school nes controller on it and under it says "know your roots" for at least 8 years now. i love that shirt its all beat up and what not but i still wear it.

for as much nintendo stuff that i have i wish sony had some ps3 tshirts i could wear.

NoSmokingBandit
NoSmokingBandit
12 years ago

As both a wii and ps3 fan, no i am not opposite myself. Though i'm more a fan of the games than the hardware. Mario Galaxy, Zelda, Smash Bros, Mario Kart… Sure its just a constant stream of mascot games, but they are still fun so i dont care.

I play games to have fun, not to brag about the technology under the hood. Thats why i have everything for God of War to World of Goo on my shelf. Fun is fun, screw the console wars.

I do not, however, have a 360. I find that most of the good "exclusives" will eventually show up on PC, so i havent found a need to buy a 360.

Imo, people need to appreciate what nintendo did with the wii a bit more instead of always making fun of it. The wii turned people into gamers who had never even thought about playing games before. Sony is pushing the industry upwards, and ninetendo is pushing outwards to new customers. A prefect compliment to each other if you ask me.


Last edited by NoSmokingBandit on 6/21/2010 2:31:07 PM

frylock25
frylock25
12 years ago

you know we have a good balance with nintendo and sony. even back in the day, nintendo was bringing people into gaming. hell they brought sony into gaming. then sony realized they could do it themselves and started moving upwards with it. since ps1 sony has been moving upward by leaps where nintendo has been going for the growing younger audience. sony is doing a good job of upward and outward now though.

i grew up with mario, metroid and zelda. my daughter is growing up with sackboy, mag and ratchet & clank. im a little jealous.

dveisalive
dveisalive
12 years ago

Japanese consoles rules FTW !!!!!!! screw 360 PS3 and Wii all day. But no they arent polar opposites they go best together for PS3 is adopting the Wii way now, which will be kick ass for sure. I cant wait to play Heavy Rain, Tiger Woods 11, and Socom 4 with my move 😛 Killzone 3 better have fix that horrible crosshairs, hopefully move makes it more acccurate for you just point it at your enemy. If that works out then im buying KZ3 day one. Wiimote and Movemote FTW 😛

Jawknee
Jawknee
12 years ago

To be honest i would have rather seen Apple make a game console instead of MS.

At least with Apple you are getting quality hardware.

frylock25
frylock25
12 years ago

the iphone will turn into an app playing console.