I still think trying to play a game like Wipeout HD in true 3D would be almost terrifying but nevertheless, the option is coming.
We had heard that 3D gaming would be coming to the PlayStation 3 next year although details remained sketchy. Well, we now have more of a confirmation of sorts; according to GameSpot , this unbelievable feature will actually be made available to all PS3s via firmware update. We have no idea when this might be, but we know we have to wait for the first 3D-enabled Bravia HDTVs, which are set to be available to consumers towards the end of next year (won't do you much good to have a 3D-enabled PS3 without a compatible TV). During a presentation yesterday, it became clear that every console out there would receive an update that would allow all 3D games to work. That line of futuristic games is still being planned but it's definitely on the horizon as well, so it's a bold new world out there. And remember, this technology will also be applied to certain titles that are already available; we've seen examples using Wipeout HD , for instance, and there are other games that may receive the 3D overhaul.
All of this seems like a huge step for the industry but I really have to get immersed in one of these before I decide for myself. I keep thinking I'll need some time to get…acclimatized.
Color me biased, but I'm far more excited about this than Natal or the PlayStation Motion Control 😀
True. What if we had 3D with TrackIR like technology? Now that would be something I would look forward to.
damn this is gonna be awesome
3D + the dildo(hope they change the design) controller = awesome experience.
so now im a have to buy another TV 2 enhance my PS3 experience? no thanks!
That's why I don't think that this 'feature' will be big this generation, but Sony may effectively corner the market for the next generation by starting (however limited the use of it may be) now.
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As long as I don't bloody well have to pay extra for it. Sony can rot in hell if they think they're getting another penny from me. Free gaming FTW!!
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Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Sony is really pushing ahead in this 3D stuff. Makes me wonder whether they have stolen a leap on others…
As for 3D immersion itself, I worry about motion sickness. full 3D may cause significantly more gamers to experience motion sickness – especially in games like Wipeout HD/Fury.
3d stuff gives me a headache (its not motion sickness, just a terrible pain in my temples) so i probably wont be able to enjoy this unless they do it differently than everyone else, which would be awesome. Mowing down minotaurs in GoWIII in 3d would be the greatest thing ever. EVER.
yeah i get that headache too
Highlander? Why do you need a 3D TV? I assume this is better than the deal where you wear your glasses and any TV can display the Red/Blue images that make it pop. If so, how is it different?
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World, I think it is to do with polarisation of the pixel display right? I think this method is far clearer than using the blue/green colour separation to create the 3D effect…
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I dunno man, I am really not up on display tech.
Not sure which of the technologies that Sony uses, the most popular one of late seems to be TVs that can polarize the pixels differently allowing the TV to interlace the two frames for each eye so both eyes see parts of the image all the time. I think Sony may use active shutter technology where the watcher wear's a pair of glasses with LCD shutters that switch on and off in synchronization with the frames displayed by the TV, but they're not talking much about how it's done, only that it's done.
I do know it's not done using colored filters like the old blue/red glasses from the 3D movies of the 50s.
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Yes Highlander; I think a quick look at NVidia's site will expose some truths… I think they have the shutter active 3D glasses right for polarised TV's?
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Well, my issue is how good will the games be though? Why do I say this? I am concerned that while Cell + RSX combo may pump out a dual 3D image at an update rate of 120Hz; I am sure this will be a huge overhead for, quite frankly, ageing hardware.
There will also be an issue with RAM again… unless they have amazing stream in / stream out compression algorithms that permit the ability for the system to flick through double the amount of pixel information per second…
Anyway, will be interesting to see. I just find it difficult to believe that hardware wise the PS3 has enough processing and graphics bandwidth that will permit a game like Uncharted 2 or Killzone 2 to retain their current visualisation resolution, colour depth and frame per second rates whilst still able to render a full real 3D gaming experience!
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I'm thinking that they will drop the resolution somewhat to keep the processing and memory requirements within 'budget'. I don't think that they can drop frame rates if they want to trick the brain into believing the 3D illusion.
Yhea, got that Highlander… I think you are right there!
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James Cameron's (spelling?) Avatar will be the first game to fully support 3D output out of the box, along with the Bluray release of the movie! Looks pretty sweet!
Damn, still need the TV though 🙂
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I've read up about 120Hz being capable of one technology and that 240Hz will be even better. I've already got a 120Hz set from last year and the prices on 240Hz have been dropping massively so I may upgrade the other television some time next year. I saw one sexy set from Samsung at 45% cheaper than the MSRP was when it came out at the beginning of the year. Saweet!
Using my logic again, I will wait for the 240Hz one… it seems like a better iteration than the first 🙂
I am nooooooo rush…
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It's kind of funky to have to wear those 3D glasses to play the games.
Foot off the gas pedal and step on the breaks! In this recovering economy of ours, a time where people are losing jobs, who can afford a 3D HDTV? Sorry to be negative here but I don't even have a HDTV yet (at least not in my room). This is great though 'cuz correct me if wrong but 3D is only possible with 1.3 HDMI. This will make the Xbox360 look like a relic. I guess I underestimated Sony when they said, "it only does everything".
Lots of people can afford HDTV's. I know, there are a lot that can't but the market is still profitable for companies.
Poor_boy, a relic it will become… what will be of interest to me is how colourful doorstop fashion apparel will get when you have both the Wii and XFlap sitting there to keep the door from banging closed.
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u mean its not a relic already?
When I said relic I meant it will make the Xbox360 hardware like from the last generation.
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I must be getting old because this new tech just doesn't interest me. A 3D touchscreen, now that'd be cool.
I don't really get this 3D stuff because I thought we already started 3D gaming more than 10 years ago.
3D World Runner on NES 🙂
LoL World!
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they mean 3D as u see in the movies where the pictures look like they are coming thru the TV at you
yeah 3D world runner came with the glasses and the 3d red/blue mode.
Its ok, by the time you are in the market for one, quite a few iterations would have passed; so you would only be getting the best of the bunch then; probably worth waiting 24 to 36 months and then see what is out… most of new features coming out in the next 1 to 2 years will be standard across all display components then, and would also have come down in price substantially…
It all depends if you have to have that urge of having something right now… but I don't believe it is value for money doing that…
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You bought your T.V's?
Shit man nice =]
imagine KZ2 in 3D.
i will finally be able to live out that add they put onto the PSN after release.
staring down a sniper barrel than watch the bullet come hurling towards your face.
also i remember sony saying a while ago that there exploring a way to get the ps3 to render the frames that way you wont need a 3D TV just one that supports 200hz minimum, like how the 3D Nvidia stuff works.
if you have to buy a new tv for it, than it will never catch on even if their dirt cheap because well most people just bought a new tv.
hope they are cheaper though, not like LED TVs there a complete utter rip off!
samsung 40 inch full HD LCD tv $2000
samsung 40 inch full HD LED tv $3600
sony bravia 40 inch full HD LCD tv $2300
sony bravia 40 inch full HD LED tv $3800
got that from the new JBHIFI catalog today.
yea LED tvs are better, they produce much better colors.
but $1500 better?
i dont think so.
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they will get cheaper, don't think there is much cost difference in production, they just want to turn a good profit on new tech for a couple of years.
I am looking for a new TV so will be looking out for any compatible models with the 3D. I use to have some 3d glasses for my PC setup, did not use it as much as I thought I would due to headaches and eye strain after prolonged use also needing to lower the resolution to keep the frame rate and refresh rate high, was rather good though 🙂
thats the point LEDs tvs are actually cheaper to make.
and they use less power up to 35% for the high end ones.
3D tvs wont be out till this time next year though, if i was you i would wait till then.
if you cant maybe get a cheapie till the 3D tvs come out.
thats the problem with tvs though theres always new tech coming out.
i remember a few years ago my father needed a new TV and knew LCDs were comming waited ages for them to come out,than got tied and got a CRT.
than LCDs came out within a month.
than LEDs, soon OLEDs than 3D Tvs and laser TVs well they were suppose to be out last year.
if i was buying a new tv i would wait for laser TVs since they offer the best colors, and contrast ratio but no one knows when they will be out.
so if your waiting on them your probably going to be waiting a while.
The 'LED TVs' are not LED displays. They are still LCD panels, but they use LEDs for the back-light instead of the conventional cold florescent. The the LED back-light is far more compact than the CFL one, and that results in the mush slimmer TVs.
Could anyone please define this? I don't understand what they mean with "3D Gaming". How this will upgrade and affect our gaming experience?
they gonna try and get it like the movies where the picture has actual depth to it and it looks like its coming thru the TV using either special pixels or maybe the use of those 3D glasses
Thanks for the clarification, newchef.
Emm.. damn money.
so since we are talking tvs kind of i have a problem with my tv, the picture keeps cutting out but it appears to still be turned on. a buddy said it is the transformer. its a 26" flat screen i was wondering if that sounded right to anyone else?
was also looking into finding a new tv if anyone can recommend a good 26 to 32 inch. i do my own research but i value the opinions of this community as there are some very smart people around here. i like the sony bravias but hear mixed things about them. LG almost feels like the way to go.
FWIW, we have a three-year-old (?) 46" Bravia and it's been awesome. The contrast ratio is not-so-good compared to plasmas or even newer LCDs, but otherwise no complaints.
I also have a four-year-old 26" Toshiba HD-CRT, which is fine (and a good choice at the time), but I would buy an LCD if I were getting it now.
Sharp makes some excellent LCDs.
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The Avatar video game is gunna be in true 3d. Just sayin.
Im looking for a new TV…but lets be real..these 3D TV's aint goin to be cheap are they. Not alot of people are gonna run out to get a 3D TV for this.
umm i dont understand what 3d gaming is, could somebody please explain what 3d gaming is to me…sorry for the noob question
it seems to mean to me that we play in 3d in the game world but it is essentially a 2d game. since the picture does not give any kind of 3d to the human eye it is still percieved as 2d. gaming in 3d would be like watching a 3d movie where your eye will percieve the objects to actually leave the tv screen and appear in front of you with depth.