You know, I think it's a question worth asking. In the very recent past, journalists and gamers alike have seen what developers dedicated to the PlayStation 3 can do if they focus all their efforts on producing a game specifically for Sony's console. Due to this, the other part of the debate centers on the following question: could making a game for both consoles be holding the PS3 back? Naughty Dog has already said Uncharted 2: Among Thieves would have to be a completely different game on the 360 as they utilized much of the special Cell Processor. Guerrilla had similar things to say concerning Killzone 2 and those who have played both often agree that nothing on the 360 can compare to either of those two titles.

No, I'm certainly not insinuating that everyone believes this, nor am I saying that Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 would automatically be a better game if it were made exclusively for the PlayStation 3. It's more of a legitimate question; a query perhaps best answered by the developers. But even they may not know the answer if they've never embarked on a PS3-exclusive project. Our review will be coming very soon but we know for a fact that Modern Warfare 2 , despite its visual excellence, cannot compare to Uncharted 2 and in fact, nothing in the console world really can right now. It just seems that PS3 exclusives are on another level of development and maybe we could look at the most popular title of the generation thus far, and then apply this theoretical situation: what if it really was exclusive? Well, for one, Activision would never let this happen as they'd sacrifice like 65% of the sales numbers they're guaranteed to have, and we'll probably never get a direct answer from Infinity Ward.

It's just something to consider. And maybe it's more of a question about multiplatform vs. exclusive titles in general, as games exclusive to the 360 are typically better than multiplats on that console as well ( Gears of War is a perfect example). Maybe making games for both distinctly different systems really are holding game designers back, although we realize they often have little choice in the matter, what with the insane cost of producing games like MW2. But then again, we know Polyphony spent $60 million making Gran Turismo 5 and we have no doubt they'll make plenty of profit, despite it not being available on the 360. The same can be said of Turn 10 and Forza 3 on the Xbox 360. So perhaps some developers should attempt more exclusive projects and due to the greater potential of the PS3, that's the platform they might want to examine for the endeavor. Of course, you'll never see major established franchises, especially from mega-global publishers, go exclusive strictly for money reasons, but our question remains…

What say you on this matter?

Related Game(s): Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

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SnipeySnake
SnipeySnake
11 years ago

PS3 sales would increase to infinity.

wasim
wasim
11 years ago

The game would have run at 1080p at 60 fps
There would have been 60 player online atleast since MW2 has mediocre graphics
The graphics would also have been overhauled
as for PS3 sales it would easily murder x360 this XMAS worldwide with its stellar lineup of FF13 and uncharted 2

WolfCrimson
WolfCrimson
11 years ago

Kinda offtopic: Gears of War is a TPS, kinda, right?


Last edited by WolfCrimson on 11/11/2009 9:54:29 PM

Poor_boy
Poor_boy
11 years ago

Not kinda, it is a TPS. What made you question the game's TPS integrity?

WolfCrimson
WolfCrimson
11 years ago

No just something my cousin said to me… he's an xbot ( we're thinking of admitting him somewhere to reprogram him to lead a normal life 😛 )and he says to me that Gears of War is so awesome and stuff. His Xbox360 RRODed on him and he got a PS3 (fat, one of the last and same price as slims), and I gave him uncharted 1 to play, and he says he doesn't like it. I was just checking to see if he didn't like it for purely genuine reasons (you know, the game being not his type of thing)but it turns out it was just fanboyism. Ah well…


Last edited by WolfCrimson on 11/12/2009 9:24:09 AM

ohmikkie
ohmikkie
11 years ago

I've got both those games and they both (more or less) play the same – apart from shoulder buttons are flipped vertically.

One can say that the Uncharted series has more diverse game-play elements though.

mustang750r
mustang750r
11 years ago

What Snipey said… INFINITY.

Poor_boy
Poor_boy
11 years ago

Xbox360 would be 3rd in the console race, eventually, discontinued. Take the amount of Xbox360-owners-only people that own COD:MW2 and the amount of Xbox360-owners-only people that yet to buy the game, subtract that to the total amount of Xbox360-owners-only, thats how much attach rate Microsoft is left with if Modern Warfare franchise were to be exclusive. But we all know that is impossible, considering how much money Microsoft has in their pocket.

Qubex
Qubex
11 years ago

Lest us not forget that a fairly sized portion of 360 owners are also buying PS3's… more recently anyway; and these 360 owners are also not using their 360's as much.

So you may have more 360 owners physically out there; but it doesn't mean all are using their 360's constantly or as much as they used to… and consider the defections as well that have come across to the PS3 side.

Q!

"i am home"

bomba2812
bomba2812
11 years ago

the game would definitely be better if it was a ps3 exclusive but it will never happen because multiplatform developers hate ps3

Poor_boy
Poor_boy
11 years ago

By the way Ben, I'm interested in your opinion of the Airport scene in the game. Perhaps an editorial would be cool. I'd like to know what you think of its significance in the game and in the video game industry overall. Sex scenes, profanity, and ridicules violence are of the norm, however, violence in context, now that is new.


Last edited by Poor_boy on 11/11/2009 10:15:23 PM

LowKey
LowKey
11 years ago

I know I'm not Ben, but I would like to say the the airport scene is the most important part of the game. It not only sets the story into place, but it also gets an emotional reaction from the player, which in turn makes said playerfight harder. At least thats what it did for me after seeing all those innocent people slaughtered.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
11 years ago

Arnold might do one…I know that part made him feel uncomfortable.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

Me too.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
11 years ago

that part made me uncomfortable as well. it really was kind of odd. i didnt fire my gun once, til the police came with the riot shields!

but upon realizing the plot i better understood it being in the game. otherwise thats touchy for sure!

GuernicaReborn
GuernicaReborn
11 years ago

I'd like to see an editorial as well, I'd have a few things to say about it.

jaybiv
jaybiv
11 years ago

Very shocking, but very cool. I unloaded at every opportunity. Why? Because it's a video game and I know that I could never do something like that in real life.

There have been action films where criminals have done this sort of thing and no one made a peep out of it. Actually, many recent action films have had some shocking scenes such as this, so I don't know what the big deal is.

IW give you a couple of options to get around it by allowing you to skip the scene entirely or just don't fire your weapon.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
11 years ago

jaybiv-

i agree with you and the others. it is just a game, and you cant relate this stuff to real life all the time. movies do stuff like this all the time.

and yes IW gave plenty of ways to get around it, so if you didnt wanna see it, all you had to do was say no at the begining of the game, or not shoot, which is exactly what i did! im proud! 😉

Wage SLAVES
Wage SLAVES
11 years ago

I thought it wouldn't bother me but wow was I wrong. It gave me a dirty feeling because I knew in the back of my mind it wasn't a farcry from reality. It is one thing to see it on the news and another to see it actually happening albeit in a virtual world.

Nevertheless the plot twist was AMAZING. It really got your emotions wrapped into it. The ending though…its gonna get all sorts of crazy now…

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

The simple fact of the matter is of course it would be (or at least would have the potential to be) a graphically superior endeavor as well as a smoother experience. But then again, if it were PS3 exclusive, 360-only owners would automatically say that it sucks.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

Too true. My xbot friend thinks this game looks better then Uncharted 2. He called the PS3 version an after thought and said we were lucky to even have it. I just laughed.

It's hard being friends with him.

Banky A
Banky A
11 years ago

Yeah, friends like that really baffle me until I'm max confuzzled.

LegendaryWolfeh
LegendaryWolfeh
11 years ago

Tell him the 360 version is an afterthought. PC CoD is where it's at =P

Fatcat3788
Fatcat3788
11 years ago

@legendarywolfeh
Actually the PC version was an "afterthought" this time around. Kinda sad really. I know quite a few people here aren't PC gamers but IW/Activision really screwed them over on this one.

www
www
11 years ago

Jawknee, I'd really like to meet that friend of yours, he sounds pathetic!

godsman
godsman
11 years ago

Honestly, I've seen the PC version's screenshots, there's not much difference other than a higher resolution. If it's exclusive it will look a bit better, but I don't think the developers will make the game any "night and day" difference than it is now.

cLoudou
cLoudou
11 years ago

Yup.

Any 360 game can be made for the PS3, possibly made even better.
The same can't be said for most PS3 games for the 360.


Last edited by cLoudou on 11/11/2009 10:26:06 PM

Xra897
Xra897
11 years ago

Then all that stuff about sony losing exclusives. was nothing compared ot his if it was to happen

fatelementality
fatelementality
11 years ago

Everything looks like cardboard in this game. Don't get me wrong, I think it looks good. With PS3 though, it could look so much better. After playing KZ2 and U2, it just doesn't hold up graphically. I also don't think that the game deserves the praise that it's getting. I would give it an 8 myself. Some levels are way too much do deal with. I came close to beating the first MW on veteran and I'm having difficulty on normal here. Maybe I'm just getting old 🙁 If you don't have an HD set for these newer games, you're f****d. It's hard to see what to shoot a lot. It also pisses me off that the screen gets splattered with blood every time you take a hit. You have to follow the AI step for step as well. I dunno, I'm just not loving this one right now. Mabye I'll get used to it. Keep some damn cover in this game for sure.

Qubex
Qubex
11 years ago

I am happy to be reading these comments before considering this game. Looking forward to the review here too… so far what I am hearing is that it is not such a great experience… has the hype machine failed again? I am happier sticking with PS3 exclusives!

Q!

"i am home"

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

I agree. I have no idea why this game is getting a 10 in the graphics department. They aren't anything special. And the blood incthe screen is super annoying. IW took a decent to great FPS (CoD4) and ruined it.

Zemus101
Zemus101
11 years ago

Yeah, I think I'd rather play KZ2 again.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

You should still get an HD set so everything looks better, but you know with MW2 running below 720p maybe it isn't necessary for that game 🙂

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

The opening cut scene is pixilated like it's been stretched beyond it's limits.

Come on! What the crap is that?!

fatelementality
fatelementality
11 years ago

I do have an HDTV. I'm just saying that shooters are alot harder if you don't have one. On Halo 3, I had to squint like a son of a bi*** when playing it on a normal TV.

Orvisman
Orvisman
11 years ago

@World,

I'm sure if I look at the back of the 360 box for CODMW2 it will indicate the game outputs at 1080p on the 360. 😉

Godslim
Godslim
11 years ago

i thought the set pieces were brilliant dunno y your all bashing the graphics

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

If it were a PS3 exclusive the colors wouldn't be washed out, the textures would be much higher resolution, the sound would be much better(for the life of me, I have no idea why IW didn't stick with the gun sounds from the first game). Everything sounds compessed and all the machine guns sound the same. Like toys. I will say this game could look and play 100x better if it were a PS3 exclusive.

IW screwed this up. After KZ2, it's hard for me to enjoy CoD anymore, but I have to admit, I'm not really impressed with MW2 like I was with MW1. The only thing I noticed that looks better is the guns and it's not by much. This was by no means a step forward. Developers have to decide. Are they gonna continue to exploit mediocrity with their half assed multiplats? Or are they willing to sacrafice a few Xbots and go all out and make superior games on the PS3? they could always downgrade and port to the Xbox later. 😉


Last edited by Jawknee on 11/11/2009 10:56:42 PM

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

"But then again, we know Polyphony spent $60 million making Gran Turismo 5 and we have no doubt they'll make plenty of profit, despite it not being available on the 360."

it's greed. Polyphony cares about their work. Craptivision cares about money.

Warukyure
Warukyure
11 years ago

In terms of sales for the PS3 as well as people switching over, as interesting as the idea would be, but let us not forget who the head of Activision Blizzard is. He is after all, the guy that said he would pull all support to the Playstation brand. This idea would be more likely if they replaced ActiBlizz's head honcho.

Off topic but, I bet Square-Enix's sales and PS3 sales would be massive if they replaced S-E's CEO with someone that understands the market better. Actually, even the regular joe can do it…

Oxvial
Oxvial
11 years ago

Only the graphs would look better but not in the levels of Killzone 2 perhaps just like the 360 version.

I don't think IW really wanted to make a exceptional game..MW 2 its really overrated.


Last edited by Oxvial on 11/11/2009 11:01:48 PM

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

See, I think they new it would sell regardless. They learned that they can get away with mediocrity so it allowed them to not push for anythingore then what we've already seen.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
11 years ago

MW stepped it up huge bringing the most in depth MP FPS. MW2 has stepped it up even more so. there s only so much you can do with an online shooter, but they definately made MW 2 a more fresh and better experience. until you play it (jawknee i believe you have but otherwise) i wouldnt say its over rated. this many people like it because its that good regardless what system its on!


Last edited by bigrailer19 on 11/12/2009 4:16:30 AM

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

I didn't hate the game. It wasn't all bad. It was much of the same we've come to expect from CoD but It was hyped like it was much much more.

___________
___________
11 years ago

all it needs is to be longer.
four and a half hours, that is a fu**ing JOKE!
o and fix all the bloody bugs, i thought patches were suppose to FIX things not fu** things up.
IW must of hired sony to do the latest patch for them 😉
no patch trophies work fine.
with patch trophies dont work.
O and it needs a better story, and better connections linking stage to stage.
like that part where your in the helli, than flashback and play another mission, than go back to the helli.
i honestly dont know what the …. is going on in that game, its like every mission you play your playing as a different person.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

Just in the days time I've had my friends copy, I finished the story mode and I have to say, I enjoyed the 1st one much more. It was a better game in general.

LegendaryWolfeh
LegendaryWolfeh
11 years ago

Because every mission you play, you DO play as a different person. -facepalm-

Qubex
Qubex
11 years ago

Do you think MW2 was rushed to market? Mi thinks so… Activision pressure… being very active here!

Q!

"i am home"

Hexen
Hexen
11 years ago

Well if it was a PS3 exclusive then it would ultimately look ten times better than now but it would suffer from the awful curse that most PS3 exclusives suffer from and that is shitty sales.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

Ben,

I agree and disagree. I think you're spot on with respect the the way in which designing a game as a multi-platform game from the beginning can result in a certain 'holding back' on the part of the game developer. However I can also see how a game could be done multi-platform and still not hold back on anything despite being multi-platform.

Games developed first for the 360 and then ported to the PS3 are cheaper – perhaps – for the developer, but generally result in an inferior port. Games that are designed from the start for both platforms typically make a few compromises to ensure the two versions are identical. This is where the multi-platform nature of a game holds back the developers.

What if the developer approached the game with two teams working on two seperate versions of the game. All the same basic assets would remain the same, the design, the artwork, character models, world and object models, physics model, sound story, music, dialog, etc… The differences obviously are in the game engine. If the developer goes in realizing that both platforms have different pluses and minuses and therefore builds a version for each that is tailored to the platform, there will clearly be differences, but since the basic game assets and story are shared, the games are still fundamentally the same game.