By now, most of you know there will be two separate versions for the upcoming Square-Enix action/RPG, Nier . There will be one version for the PlayStation 3 and one for the Xbox 360…but perhaps it just doesn't matter as far as gamers outside of Japan are concerned.

According to Andriasang citing the latest issue of Famtisu Xbox 360, Nier Gestalt for the 360 and Nier Replicant for the PS3 are indeed a little different, but it's best to consider Gestalt to be the "international version" of the game. In other words, we're only getting one Nier ; Japan is the only country to have access to both. Executive Producer Yosuke Saito has confirmed as much, and further said that Replicant was originally created as Cavia and was deemed as most suitable for the Japanese market. Now, here's where things get a little confusing: either both versions have the same character who simply appears different in each version, or there are two completely different main characters. There seems to be some confusion about this, as you'll see in that article. But anyway, Saito did say the "game design" of both versions would be the same but due to a mysterious difference in content, you'd need to play both in order to see 100% of the adventure in its entirety. There won't be co-op play, by the way, but downloadable content isn't out of the question.

Well, this clears up a few things. It appears that it won't matter if you only own either the PS3 or 360; Nier will be exactly the same on consoles in this country.

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fluffer nutter
fluffer nutter
11 years ago

Curious to hear more on this as the games are developed. If there is enough of a difference, and interest, then I could see some potiential importing of the Japanese PS3 game for those that want the full story.

SnipeySnake
SnipeySnake
11 years ago

Im looking forward to this.

LegendaryWolfeh
LegendaryWolfeh
11 years ago

So…then which one is the International version? Will we get the port or will the 360?

robinhood2010
robinhood2010
11 years ago

'but it's best to consider Gestalt to be the "international version" of the game.'

That's the X360 version.

LegendaryWolfeh
LegendaryWolfeh
11 years ago

of course…ps3 gets the port..

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

I new this would happen.

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

Sounds like Nier will be another victim of the dvd gimp effect.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

Exactly.

Wage SLAVES
Wage SLAVES
11 years ago

I think so too Alienange. It also seems like a ploy to encourage some of these people to buy an Xbox to get the other half of the story…

sonic1899
sonic1899
11 years ago

i KNEW they would do this!! in japanese media, younger characters are oddly the most preferred. that's why we see so many cliched characters aged 15-25 in jrpgs so often. they figured americans don't buy into that, so they gave us the old guy. that's why they believe replicant "is better suited for japanese players" overall, it might be the same game overall, but the storyline is a bit altered and there's different main characters. it sucks cuz i was looking forward to replicant over gestalt.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

Well thats… kinda gay? I dunno, there needs to be more information regarding how these are different before I can say whether or not the West should get both. Maybe they have decided to just sell us one version, and sell the other as a patch on PSN and LIVE.

huh1678
huh1678
11 years ago

Replicant Nier for me…hopefully…i can't see myself playing Gestalt Nier. I will import if i have to.

BigBoss4ever
BigBoss4ever
11 years ago

fxxx the square business planner. i mean, you either make it exclusive for ps3 and make it the best, or you have one game across the board and play the same.

create two different characters but call it the same title and then put one on ps3 and the other on xbox 360 to trick gamers to buy both in order for SE to gain max profit is pure greed out of dirt.


Last edited by BigBoss4ever on 10/1/2009 11:18:15 PM

NightHawk17
NightHawk17
11 years ago

That just killed my interest in the game, i dont want to play as that "manly man" it just doesnt seem real, replicant caught my attention but hey saves money for something better now

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

we dont know thats the case.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

Ditto. I'm sick and tired of this BS that SE and other Japanese developers are spinning about a western focus. Half the games I own have a Japanese influence in their design, or character design or story. It's exactly that Japanese flavor that attracted me to them. I don't like the macho manly man uber violent crap that western gamers apparently prefer.

Honestly I have never understood why anyone would rather have someone who resembles the guys in Gears of War running around as their character in an RPG when they could have some pretty thing like Kos-Mos running around. Frankly, which ass would you prefer to watch running around for hours on end in an RPG, Arnold Schwarzenegger or Megan Fox? Yeah, I though so. So why do game developers think that we prefer the more macho aesthetic? Now it's even affecting Japanese games.

___________
___________
11 years ago

thats why i hate asians.
they think their to sophisticated for western markets.
come to my tafe and you will see what i mean.
drives me bonkers.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

I think you mis-understand me. I'm criticizing the desire of Japanese developers to give in to the western influence. I'm not saying that they should do more to cater to western tastes, I think that they should be true to themselves and their own culture, and allow gamers outside Japan to decide whether that is for them. Changing a game specifically to cater for western tastes alters the game – IMHO – and not for the better.

___________
___________
11 years ago

nah thats what im saying.
there changing this game thinking western markets wont like it.
where clearly thats not true.
thats what i meant, they treat western areas like there not worthy of receiving there style of things either that or they think it wont sell well and change it.
than theres asians who refuse to try anything that is not asian.
theres so many asians at my tafe and they refuse to try other food, try to get them to try pasta or a hamburger or something good luck!
like 8 of the guys in my class have ps3s but do not buy anything besides JRPGs ive been trying to convince them how good KZ2 is but they dont want to hear it.
if its not asian they dont want to know about it.

LowKey
LowKey
11 years ago

Uhhhh, Highlander, it depends are we talking Arnold Shwarzenegger from Predator? orrr current Arnie? LMAO either way the answer is Megan Fox.

oldmike
oldmike
11 years ago

same passing this game
i am sick of SE and there lies and scams
wach next E3 FFXIII VS will also be comeing to the xbox

BigBoss4ever
BigBoss4ever
11 years ago

I am totally with you HighLander. I think what the Jap Developer should do is just to make the game best they can according to their perceptions or ideals , just like the old days, they were able to produce so much legendary titles. and let the gamers choose and pick what they like. they don't need to put that much effort to just tailor towards the western taste.

Original taste is the best, as always


Last edited by BigBoss4ever on 10/2/2009 2:22:27 PM

jdt1981
jdt1981
11 years ago

I wouldn't be surprised if Nier Replicate is the best version that takes advantage of the PS3 hardware and in order to appease M$ the rest of the world gets the gimped 360 version port…

godsman
godsman
11 years ago

I'm not surprised, cause the Xbox version would never stand a chance in Japan if it's the exact same as the PS3 version. The Xbox version probably gets extra contents or earlier release date.

The only question is. Will the US and UK be getting the PS3 or Xbox version. Or to be precise, Neir Gestalt or Replicant.

Naztycuts
Naztycuts
11 years ago

Ive Never heard anything about this, so I am forced to deem it unimportant. What is it supposed to be like Oblivion or something?

JackC8
JackC8
11 years ago

I wasn't terribly interested in this game, but the Replicant version looked just good enough to be worth a look. The fact that it was made for the PS3 was a plus as well. But oh well, I guess the developers aren't too interested in having me as a customer.


Last edited by JackC8 on 10/2/2009 8:14:35 AM

Orvisman
Orvisman
11 years ago

Well… That makes the decision to import Nier Replicant easier.

I don't normally import games that I KNOW will be coming stateside eventually (unless there is no language problem with playing the import); but I will import games, regardless of the language barrier, that won't be coming stateside.

In this case, I wasn't planning to import Nier because it was coming to the U.S.; but now I guess I'll have to import it to get the "complete" story.

Mr Bitey
Mr Bitey
11 years ago

This sucks. The 360/US version's lead looks like a Gears of War character. I know it might sound shallow, but I was really looking forward to having the younger, more energetic lead.

Orvisman
Orvisman
11 years ago

From Andriasang:

"The Japanese version of the game will have English voices and Japanese subtitles. He said that while some players here will see this and feel that the game is a western game, upon playing it they will understand that it is a Japanese game."

From Andriasang:

[note: I originally wrote here that Gestalt is the version of Nier that PS3 and Xbox 360 players outside of Japan will be getting. This was actually never specifically stated in the Famitsu Xbox 360 interview. However, it was heavily implied. See this update for more, including additional details on Nier in general]

Ben:

"But anyway, Saito did say the "game design" of both versions would be the same but due to a mysterious difference in content, you'd need to play both in order to see 100% of the adventure in its entirety."

Clarification From Andriasang:

"Saito was a bit vague on the actual differences in content between the two versions, saying that players could consider the "game design" to be the same between the two and that it's NOT the case that you'll only be able to see 100% of the game by playing both titles."

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

So, if you really want this game, and specifically the PS3 version, import it. It's got English voicing and Japanese subtitles, that should be sufficient to allow anyone to enjoy it. Of course having no English menus might be a bit of an issue….

Perhaps SE will leave the English option in the game for menu text as well? Then it would be an easy decision for importers.

You know, I am completely at a loss to understand why Square Enix would do this. Their entire business in the western game markets has been with gamers who prefer the Japanese aesthetic common in JRPGs. What possible reason would they have to suddenly believe that their western customer base wants something more typically 'western'?

BigBoss4ever
BigBoss4ever
11 years ago

"….I am completely at a loss to understand why Square Enix would do this. Their entire business in the western game markets has been with gamers who prefer the Japanese aesthetic common in JRPGs. What possible reason would they have to suddenly believe that their western customer base wants something more typically 'western'?"

with you again on that Highlander


Last edited by BigBoss4ever on 10/2/2009 2:24:42 PM

LowKey
LowKey
11 years ago

PASS!! NEXT!!!

coverton341
coverton341
11 years ago

Why are there so many people here asking which version we will be getting? It clearly in no unspecific terms says consider Gestalt the international version. That is the version being developed for the xbox360 it isn't hard to comprehend.

Sorry I don't mean to come off as rude or anything but read the article for Christ's sakes.

Everyone outside of Japan is getting the version made for the 360. If you only own a PS3 then you will be getting a ported version of the game because they are making the 360 developed version of the game the international version.

It sucks if you were hoping for a PS3 developed Nier as I was but did anyone really expect too much more from Square? Really?

So we can either suck it up and play the ported version of the game, just not buy it at all, import the PS3 version, or if you own a 360 as well then buy it for that system and play it on the system it was developed for.

Score one for Square again for taking a great idea and fouling it up.

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

But I'm an uber strong meat head. I can't be "reading the article."

jigokunohoono
jigokunohoono
11 years ago

im starting to get pretty pissed at S-E over how they make games cause they think that people it the US/Canada only care about the 360 and all thats happening is that their ganes as good as they were on the PS/PS2
they make japanese games and most japanese people own PS3 not 360 so it would make more sence to make it on the PS3 cause most people i know with only a 360 like FPSs not RPGs but the people i know with only PS3 like RPGs more plus the PS3 is just better and now that it selling more than before soon everyone everywhere will own it so they should make games for it so they lots of money

tes37
tes37
11 years ago

This is disappointing, but not surprising.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

I bet Aaron Greentoad and MS had something to do with this.

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

Just remember that SE has never made a good game outside of the FF franchise. It'll save you hundreds.

BigBoss4ever
BigBoss4ever
11 years ago

Can not agree on that, Chrono Series made by them is one of the all time greatest games, and even to this day i still play from time to time for a game i bought 15 years ago; also Vagrant Stories, Parasite Eve, Kingdom Hearts etc were all among the greats.

but if the SE you meant was the one formed after 2004, then I agree, cuz those games i mentioned were all made by Square or SquareSoft, and SE has never impressed me after they changed their business plan and started doing so called westernization


Last edited by BigBoss4ever on 10/2/2009 10:43:53 PM

Jonesy555
Jonesy555
11 years ago

I preferred Gestalt over Replicant anyway based on when I've seen of the main characters, so I'm happy I et to play it on my PS3.