Don't think Sony hasn't heard about your feedback concerning the recently released firmware update 3.00. They really are listening, and it seems they're considering re-revamping that new-look Friends list.

Perhaps it was one of the first things you noticed after downloading update 3.00. Gray boxes surround each friend on your list, and while we get the helpful addition of a few new statistics, it really doesn't jive with the sleek presentation of the XMB. And after SCEE's PS3 Brand Manager said on the European PlayStation Blog , "updates to firmware don't always suit everyone's tastes," we find that Sony is "looking into" the Friends list complaint. Mark Bowles also said they "appreciate the feedback," so whenever you feel the need to speak up about a new update, don't think your feedback falls on deaf ears. Okay, if you're in the minority, it might fall on deaf ears, but if a lot of people dislike something, they're likely to let everyone know. So what do you think? Do you believe Sony should change that Friends list back to the way it was? Or do you like the new format? Or would you prefer some other design? Sure, they got rid of the "PlayStation 3" logo when games boot up (slightly faster loading times), but even then, people can have mixed opinions.

Obviously, most users are more interested in some of the technical issues caused by firmware 3.00, but hey, cosmetics matter too, ya know.

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Xra897
Xra897
11 years ago

some people didnt like it but i didnt really mind, but i hope its optional cuz it might turn out even more un satisfying

Swim_Irr
Swim_Irr
11 years ago

Oh man… Those grey bars are horrendous. But the scrolling game info is a great addition

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

The grey bars just don't look like they belong with the rest of the XMB interface.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

They do look a tad out of place. Random.

Frenchy17
Frenchy17
11 years ago

Agreed, huge grey bars gotta go!

Wage SLAVES
Wage SLAVES
11 years ago

The update was soo a WIN except for that lazy @ss grey bar friends thing. A prettier XMB with the nice sparkle then on the far corner a Huge gray splotch of friends, bleah!!

Masterofallz
Masterofallz
11 years ago

God, I hate the complainers so much. I mean, I realize that people have different opinions, but I just blew up on anybody that said Sony 'sucked' because of those gray boxes.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

Maybe Sony can make it better. I don't hate them but they could do better.

Gregory Freeman
Gregory Freeman
11 years ago

YES! the first time something i post in the forum's turns into a news article!!

lol srry its kewl…

and imo, it looks awesome!!

Origami_Killer
Origami_Killer
11 years ago

Sony should keep them both and let the ps3 owner choose. They should do the same with the ticker and the extra store icons.

Qwarktast1c
Qwarktast1c
11 years ago

definitely

mexgeo86
mexgeo86
11 years ago

Honestly, as long as the network is stable and keeps adding new functions, I'm indifferent to how the menus and lists look.

fatelementality
fatelementality
11 years ago

At least they listen to feedback and try to please the masses. As long as it's a legitimate complaint that's made by the majority of PS3 users, then Sony should adjust the firmware accordingly.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

If they're listening to the feedback, that's great, but they also need to get more pro-active about issues like the counterfeit Dualshock controllers that people have that are no longer terribly compatible. I'm not suggesting Sony should support them, but they should at least get the message out that the lock-up problems in Firmware 3.0 are largely the result of these fake DualShock controllers.

SkantDragon
SkantDragon
11 years ago

The sheer amount of whining from most of the commenters on PlayStation Blog is insane. I mean… they just bi*** about every little thing. Especially if it's a tiny nitpick.

And then they get really upset that Sony "isn't listening to them" when Sony doesn't respond to juvenile comments. "Why didn't you personally respond to my previous comment where I called all of your mothers whores because you increased the font size, Sony? Why don't you ever care about your customers?!"

I couldn't care less about the gray boxes.

I would like to have an option to turn that ticker off though.


Last edited by SkantDragon on 9/10/2009 10:54:39 PM

H8WL3R
H8WL3R
11 years ago

I also thought the grey boxes aren't the most terrible addition to the XMB. That being said however, having info in them does improve it and it would be nice if they were possibly more dynamic and/or could match the background (either by one's choosing of colour and/or some other type of blending). I do overall like the aesthetic of it and don't think it surpasses 2.80 by leaps and bounds nor is it dramatically different either. Some of the things can be turned on/off (such as What's New? and the sparkle effect). The bigger font also doesn't bother me so much on a HDTV and can actually help in seeing the text a bit better, however on non HDTV that change is definetly… apmlified.

One of the things has has bothered me far more thus far though, is the fact that some of the rumble has disappeared from one the games I was enjoying immensely. I do not like the fact that The Darkness, that had supported the vibration function previously (with 2.80 anyway) no longer seems to. I'm hoping that will be restored and it wasn't purposely yanked. I tend to like the option of vibration/rumble in most games.

Overall though I do find that it seems to be running games, movies and such overall with more fluidity. Has anyone else noticed (or is it just me)? Most importantly, I find that technical improvements and tweaks, along with added features and bonuses to be more benificial. In my opinion, choices though, whether cosmetic or technical (generally with improvements/additions and not retractions) are great and benefit us in the end.


Last edited by H8WL3R on 9/11/2009 2:23:19 AM

Squirreldriver
Squirreldriver
11 years ago

I really had no problem with 3.0 I mean, how long are you going to stare at the grey bars anyway? But I would definitely support an option to turn it and the scrolling bar off. Great to know they are listening though. The squeaky wheel gets the grease! 😉

@TheHighlander
What fake DS3 are you refering to exactly? I have a white one that I imported from JA and it too has issues after the update. I've only tested it in Batman:AA but it did lose the connection a couple of times. But trust me, I know it's not a counterfeit. I've had it entirely apart while modifying it and the PCB and all the guts are the same as my 2 black DS3's.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

Apparently there are some fake DS3 controllers being sold. From what I have read it's fake ceramic white controllers. They look just like DualShock 3 controllers, and are marked and branded as Sony controllers, but there are a few telltale signs.

From what I'm seeing, after Firmware 3.0 a lot (or all) of them are initializing as controller 7 when you turn them on (LEDs 1 and 2 are lit). Some games may need controllers to be in ports 1 or 2. So a controller that initializes as port 7 may not be correctly identified. Certainly if you have the Singstar microphones plugged into your PS3 and start yourPS3 by pressing the PS button on your controller, you'll find using Home a challege because your controller will initialize as controller 2, and Home won't see it. You can use the XMB with any controller, but when you start Home, it has to be controller 1 or nothing responds. The 'funny' thing is that it will look just like Home has locked up, and nothing will work until you hit the PS button.

Of course there also might be a problem with the BlueTooth circuitry such that the fake controllers don't sync properly with the PS3.

Here's a YouTube of someone with a fake DS3 (though considering the flaw in the button layout on their controller, they should have noticed it).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JRxzOaECE


Last edited by TheHighlander on 9/10/2009 11:22:56 PM

fluffer nutter
fluffer nutter
11 years ago

I just watched that video and yeah, he points out the flaw in the buttons. Pretty obvious and ugly.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

Yep. Judging by the comments on Joystiq, and the Playstation forums and other places most of the fake controllers are not quite so obviously flawed. It sounds like Sony added something to the BlueTooth handshaking code that has gimped the fake ones. Whether they did it on purpose or not isn't yet clear. Personally I think they'd be well within their rights to do that since they've taken a bath on the cost of the PS3 and have to make back the investment through game and accessory sales.

Having said that, I'd be pretty ticked if it turned out that my DualShock 3 was a fake, and that Sony deliberately gimped it.

Sony is damned if they do or don't in that regard.

jaybiv
jaybiv
11 years ago

Highlander, a customer who bought a fake DS3 can't be mad at Sony if they did gimp the controllers. Sony has to protect their investment. Just as I couldn't be mad at say Gamestop if they refused to take a counterfeit bill I was unknowingly trying to pass to them.

Culoslap
Culoslap
11 years ago

I'm all for the new friends list format. The current is aesthetically annoying. I wish Sony would allow more customization options. For example, when I get a message or a friend signs on/off, why can't their current avatar show up instead of the generic buddy icon?

Instead of a boring gray box we could change it to whatever color we wanted. A customized color for each friend. The more customization options we have the easier it is to make everyone happy.

ThugNificent101
ThugNificent101
11 years ago

Exactly
Customization is key.

We simply want more options is all. I personally like what they were trying to achieve with the friends list, but it was executed very poorly.
If they would have made the boxes more transparent – as seen in the picture – it would have been much more appealing, as the grey boxes simply dont go with the backgrounds on the XMB… especially the dynamic themes.
if they were to have the color change for the friend boxes, then they could – as you said – make the colors fully costomizable for each person, or have the color change in conjunction with the theme (changes with the month or something of the sort)

along the same lines, but not necessarily on topic… I would like an option to have sound notifications when a friend logs on and/or messages you. Only then will i be able to create the PERFECT Metal Gear Solid Theme =)

Fane1024
Fane1024
11 years ago

I would guess the current set-up is a placeholder and that Sony always planned to refine the boxes as they added functionality (similar to the mock-up). There's a lot of empty space. I'm sure they had a reason for the opaque boxes, but I bet the next version is more transparent.

I wish they would increase the length of the comment bubble and the "about me" field…just generally more info in the profile.

As for customization, I would rather have more practical options (e.g., choosing which kinds of notifications we want to receive, instead of on/off) than aesthetic options.


Last edited by Fane1024 on 9/11/2009 4:11:13 AM

Scarecrow
Scarecrow
11 years ago

Bring back a "PS" symbol of sorts when you start a game

That's ALWAYS been an important part of Sony's consoles!

By the way, I actually LOVE the new friends list grey boxes, really individualizes each friend. Makes it less painful to find them as well.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

Indeed, it's actually so important that it features as the PS button icon. I'd love to see the old style PS1 initialization screen when a game starts.

Scarecrow
Scarecrow
11 years ago

The powerful rumble of Sony's logo followed by the BRILLIANT sounding PS logo is still the best startup of any console to date.

I'm with you on that one, they should bring back the PS logo in one form or another.

Jawknee
Jawknee
11 years ago

I miss the PS start up too.

Banky A
Banky A
11 years ago

Well I like it. But I'll love an even better looking one lol.

I am easily impressed, which is just how I want to stay ^_^
I pretty much can't get disappointed right?

Banky A
Banky A
11 years ago

Yessss lol

Ricochet
Ricochet
11 years ago

Fix the freezing game(s) issue. Other than that I can deal with the huge gray boxes.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

Is it freezing games or de-syncing counterfeit controllers?

BigT_1980
BigT_1980
11 years ago

The only I am really concerned with the 3.00 update is the extra PlayStation store icons under the video and game sections of the XMB. The only place it should be under is network section of the XMB. And fix the controller issue. All the other stuff is cosmetic and isn't that big of a deal with me.

Fane1024
Fane1024
11 years ago

Or at least move them away from the "central" vertical placement and put them all in the same relative position.

Douchebaguette
Douchebaguette
11 years ago

Hhahahahahah. Watched that video last night; the guy has an awesome idea of what PSN should be like. Only thing that's possibly flawed about it is the fact that PSN trophies display / sync takes aagges to load.

They should also stop gimmicking the PS2 logo and use the logo above.

Douchebaguette
Douchebaguette
11 years ago

Actually the PS3's is Mata-bold. Practically the same.

And by "PS2 gimmick", I didn't mean Spidey. I meant the new PS3 Slim logo [which looks alot like the squarish PS2, PSP ones].

They've also updated their original Zrnic font, yet they don't show it that much anymore. Makes me a ssaaddd pandaa =[

___________
___________
11 years ago

thats the fan made change i was talking about, im really starting to wonder who if not what is in charge of the ps3 XMB and FW updates.
i mean fans kids for christs sake are doing a better job than a mutli billion dollar company.
now what does that say?
i dont know about you, but i would be really blue if i was sony now.
thats not the only one we have seen to, ive lost count on how many trophy and friend fan made comparisons i have seen and every one looks better than the one sonys done.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

The trouble with fan based ideas is that they suit the person that made them and a vocal minority of supporters. But they may not suit everyone. Sony has to cater to the whole audience, not just a small part of it.

That said, the gray bars suck mightily.

___________
___________
11 years ago

true but hop on the playstation blog US theres hundreds of posts saying sony should use that one.
if sony did implement that user created one they would be nothing but high praises it looks incredible.
im positive there will not be 1 complaint, well you cant please everyone but i cant see why someone would not like it.

Scarecrow
Scarecrow
11 years ago

You also have to consider the Japanese, the Europeans, and those in other countries

The Japanese might really love the new appearance.
I know I do

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

@Scarecrow,

Everything except th4e gray bars is a big win.

RadioHeader
RadioHeader
11 years ago

If Sony are really listening… I think each trophy – bronze, silver, gold, platinum should have its own jingle. Use the current sound for bronze but each higher one has a little more jazz to it, and when you reach the Plat, it should play Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody in full!

…Okay, maybe not the Queen song but you know what I mean. They should differentiate the trophy sounds to make acquiring them a little more satisfying. Sorry if I'm slightly off topic but I've been sitting on this dynamite idea for a while now.

RadioHeader
RadioHeader
11 years ago

Now you're getting it, ffrulez. It could be the current bling for bronze, the silver would be be biddlybing, the gold – biddlybiddlybing, and the Plat – biddlybiddlybaddlybuddlyBING!!!!!!*jazz hands*

I never realised how easy it was to write music 😛

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

That's a damn good idea RadioHeader.

kevinater321
kevinater321
11 years ago

I actually like it. But i think someone said it above that people should have the option to have the gray bars. Well maybe there is, i for one have not been in the settings tab in a little wile. (excluding the theme tab)

tridon
tridon
11 years ago

Even though the gray boxes do make it easier to see your friends name if you have a light-coloured wallpaper/theme, they still are rather ugly. If Sony gave you options to change the colours or even the shapes, I think this would make a lot of people happier. However, things are more important to me for Sony fix such as the ability to play Uncharted without the game freezing. Priorities should be made first before worrying about the prettiness of the XMB.

BeezleDrop
BeezleDrop
11 years ago

I'm satisfied with the update, I can understand complaints, I heard about it bricking some systems. I just don't have any issues with it, well except for the CUSTOM AVATARS being no where to be seen.

Robochic
Robochic
11 years ago

Would like custom avatars please 🙂 or just something new please 🙂 hate having to see that ugle kitty cat which is the only thing I can tolerate

Randomhero1
Randomhero1
11 years ago

I like the new bar thing. Makes it look better.

JPBooch
JPBooch
11 years ago

I like them. Much easier to see who is on-line. Th eold one blended in with the XMB and was annoying. I left the original XMB wallpaper because I got frustrated trying to read messages with the background.