In this industry, it's all about progressing at an almost unheard-of clip, which means we may be leaving the "console wars" behind sooner than we all might think…

In a recent Guardian UK interview with legendary movie man Steven Spielberg, the Oscar-winning director said he believes that video game consoles "will go the way of the dodo." Basically, he says 3D gaming and virtual reality is the true wave of the future and the traditional method of virtual interaction will eventually give way to newer technology. He added that at some point, we'll be "playing directly on our TV sets, bypassing all of the platforms." Spielberg is kinda into games these days, as he has just finished his second Boom Blox game for the Nintendo Wii, but everything is going to change so we had best be ready. Said Spielberg:

"In the short term I would love to start seeing 3D games developed where with a good pair of glasses we get a real three-dimensional experience in front of an appropriate monitor that is designed just for 3D. And after that, will certainly be virtual reality, which just like 3D came and went in the 1950s, and now it's here to stay in movies.

I really think virtual reality, which experimentally came and went in the eighties, is going to be redeveloped, just like 3D is being redeveloped today, and that's going to be the new platform for our gaming future."

Well, it's certainly something we gamers have thought about for quite some time. We've always wondered: if and when this happens, will we be around for it? Will playing video games in the future include nothing more than one universal headset of sorts that alters our brains and puts us into a virtual battleground? Will there be no such thing as "AI?" It's all worth talking about but for the here and now, we think it'll be tough to wave goodbye to the console.  That'll be a sad day.

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Powershifter
Powershifter
11 years ago

Unless they develop something similar to Star Trek's holodeck, I don't think I'd be interested in a pair of glasses for gaming. I might be swayed if the graphics are unbelievable, but that's doubtful. I'm hoping we'll be happy with our consoles for many years to come .. but we'll see.

jdt1981
jdt1981
11 years ago

I agree if it's a VR gimmick that doesn't work very well I don't want any part of it. Let me know when they invent the Holodeck like you see in Star Trek or a vr headset that taps directly into your brain sending alternate reality into your mind like the Playstation 9 on that old PS2 commercial.

The Stig
The Stig
11 years ago

Holodecks was exactly what I was thinking, would be sweeeeet. Its a looooooooooong way off tho, not in our lifetime anyway.

Phoelix
Phoelix
11 years ago

Except what does the computing for the new virtual reality? Unless we make TV's that have processors and memory, we will still need consoles, or at least our computers, to play video games. Of course, there is always the option of a server doing everything, but that would require everyone to have internet.

I think he's right about 3d and virtual reality, but wrong about no consoles.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

Even if we do make TVs with integrated High Performance computing solutions, won't they be expensive? Won't you have to buy a special TV with a console in it already, since that kind of hardware will hardly be needed in a standard TV. In which case wouldn;t it make more sense to break that hardware out into a separate box to allow people who already have a TV to play the game as well. This separate hardware in a box, why it could be called a game…um… console? Yes, and it plays these games on a video screen, so perhaps we could call it a video game console? Yes, I like that idea, a video game console. That way we don't have to have all these video game conso…..oh, wait, I seem to have gone in a big Spielberg circle.

Phoelix
Phoelix
11 years ago

Heh, my thoughts exactly.
If we go straight to TV's, might as well have consoles so TV's don't get really expensive.

If we use servers, nobody's gonna have a monopoly on that market, so even though we don't have console wars, we'll have server wars.

NonProphet
NonProphet
11 years ago

Phoelix:

Yes, I think servers will do all the work (see onlive), it'll take awhile to out the kinks (see lag), but I think every serious gamer will need to have internet access in the not so distant future. Wait, who doesn't have internet? Never mind, Spielberg is a visionary and I think he knows what he's talking about.

I will miss consoles when our grand kids are laughing at us as we wax nostalgically about our non-3D, non-virtual reality consoles.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

Billions of people around the world do not have Internet. Millions upon millions of people who do have internet have the types of connections that are horridly lag prone, and that's not counting the wireless hookups.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

And onlive fails.

WolfCrimson
WolfCrimson
11 years ago

One of those horridly lag prone connections would be mine. Oh, what I would do to play MGO lag-free…

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

You know, age and experience are a wonderful thing, but sadly they slow the brain. I say sadly because I'm having to reply a second time because this thought only just crossed my mind.

Back in 1980 I got an Atari 2600 system. That was, near as makes no difference, 30 years ago. And I'm certain that at the time someone said something almost exactly like "I will miss consoles when our grand kids are laughing at us as we wax nostalgically about our non-3D, non-virtual reality consoles.'

And yet here we are three decades later and we've only just now upgraded from regular color TV to HD TV. 30 years seems like forever when you look forward, but somehow the advances we actually have exceed predictions in some ways and fall drastically short in others. Some things we take for granted today were literally science fiction 30 years ago – such as ubiquitous wireless communication with hand held units the size of a well used bar of soap. And yet some things haven't moved much at all, a car is pretty much the same as it was 30 years ago, a bit more efficient perhaps, but not much change really.

Technologies advance very quickly until they hit their sweet spot, and then the advances slow to a crawl. In gaming, the simple fact that HDTV is now beginning to enter mass adoption and the best defined HD standard is met by today's video game consoles tells me that this generation may be the sweet spot for video games.

Ogibillm
Ogibillm
11 years ago

i think if you think of a console as a dedicated game machine in the home he's right. integration directly into a tv with streaming over the internet will be the way of the future… although that future may be quite a ways off.

as for 3d games – we don't all have your money, spielberg. monitors designed specifically for 3d display? maybe someday, but not soon.

however, i have seen some neat head tracking demos using infrared and the ps eye. i'd love to see somebody utilize that tech in a game.

Gregory Freeman
Gregory Freeman
11 years ago

well actually, with the Nvidia Quadro FX5600, and Samsung Syncmaster 2233RZ 22" 3D Gaming LCD Monitor, 3d gaming is literally already here… sure not on consoles, but it is here…

Mr Bitey
Mr Bitey
11 years ago

lol this coming from the man responsible for Boom Blox is kind of ironic.

Lotusflow3r
Lotusflow3r
11 years ago

Is he still not retired? apparently not! Probably still trying to re-re-re-release and re-edit some of his old films and ruin them because he has no originality left.

*South Park flashbacks*

Oxvial
Oxvial
11 years ago

Go and eat a T-Rex Spielberg a frigging T-Rex!!

also no way in hell I'm going to use the VX-Box 4k I dont want Microsoft doing things with my brain .


Last edited by Oxvial on 5/20/2009 12:11:38 PM

Gregory Freeman
Gregory Freeman
11 years ago

Red Ring In The Brain?

could we sue bill gates for that???

he is made of money right?

CH1N00K
CH1N00K
11 years ago

I can see where this will go. You'll have to get antivirus software for your head because everytime you log on you'll get brain spam.

There's also already a clip on You tube where some engineer has already converted a Wii to project 3d imaging. It's only a matter of time I guess…

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

Just a quick question for mister super-genius-movie-producer-man, but these 3D environments and virtual landscapes that he speaks of. these things that we will play directly on our TVs. How exactly is it that this differs from what we have today? Since these will all require some hardware to run them, there has to be something, even if it's not the same console we use now. Is he suggesting that our TVs have the hardware built in? In which case every TV has to have the same console hardware integrated inside – sounds expensive.

Oh, wait, perhaps he's talking about one of these internet based game services like OnLive? Sounds like he wants to replace the console with a set top box, presumably owned and operated by his company?

Among the questions I have regarding these Internet based game services network lag, and real time control how do you square that circle exactly oh great movie-producing_man?

Suddenly I'm having flashbacks to Larry Elison's constant refrain through the late 80's and all through the 90's and 2000's about how thin clients and diskless workstations were absolutely the next big thing. As far as I know we still have PCs and Oracle still sells a bazillion client installations a year and Larry is still talking up the diskless workstation.

I have a feeling that until we have very low latency Intenet connections in every home with several 10s of megabits worth of bandwidth in either direction this kind of gaming without a gaming device is pie in the sky.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

Boy, people must really like Larry Elison…or OnLive…or Spielberg.

daizycutter
daizycutter
11 years ago

wow so much hostility for a great director ..also i hope he's right! i long for the day when HD virtual reality glasses come out.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

3D can be done using current technology without glasses. It's horridly expensive, in the same way that Plasma TV used to be.

The thing is, if we think games are expensive now, how much more so will they e when the 3D character models have to stand up to real 3D representation?

The hostility, as such, seems more due to the fact that Spielberg doesn't actually seem all that in touch with where gaming is right now, or the technical challenges, and is offering what amounts to science fiction as his view of the near future. It just doesn't jive with reality.

Goodness, given the number of people who *claim* that HD isn't worth it even now, how will anyone be persuaded that 3D is worth the huge extra cost if HD isn't worth even a moderate increase in cost?


Last edited by TheHighlander on 5/20/2009 1:58:20 PM

Lord carlos
Lord carlos
11 years ago

3d gaming with glasses = brain cancer
poper virtual reality ie.the matrix,a hundred years away at the very least,plus we need to fully comprehend the mind & brain and how both will work connected to a machine… oh no its terminater & or the matrix all over again
The cell processor is skynet in disguise.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

Mine uses the wifi to talk to me while i sleep!

Troy Powers
Troy Powers
11 years ago

Thanks for the tip, Stevie. Now, back to the present.

Byakko2009
Byakko2009
11 years ago

I'll just go enter my cryogenic sleep now. Someone wake me up when this happens. I'm not even interested in 3D gaming glasses when I think of the warnings they'd have to put on those things. I think he was on LSD while he was playing Boom Blox or something and got way too ahead of himself.

Hexen
Hexen
11 years ago

Wonder why people are bashing the greatest director of all time anyway I hope that never happens.I enjoy sitting back with a DS3 controller in my hand playing some PS3/PS1 freshness.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

Just because he doesn't know what he's talking about, he's pretty new to games as far as I can tell he's just jumping on the bandwagon now, I think the consensus is he should stick to talking about movies until he's a little better informed.

Mr Bitey
Mr Bitey
11 years ago

VR could be a possibility, but we'll never get there if console makers keep releasing decade old tech (Wii), and game developers develop outdated games because it's quick, easy, and cheap. Boundaries will have to start being pushed Mr. Spielberg. I don't see the Wii or Boom Blox doing that exactly, if anything they are moving us backwards.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

Mr. Spielberg has forgotten that not all of us are super-rich. I have no doubt VR will be reinvented and explored again but it will be many decades before a useful technology coming from it is available in the home. Until then, our TV consoles will work just fine, they aren't going anywhere.

As for 3D, people don't like wearing those glasses to play games and definitely not ALL their games. It was a treat to play them in that Worldrunner game but you never played long. And saying that the new 3D is here to stay is giving it too much credit, I think it's just being toyed with again and will go away again.

Please no one hire this man as an analyst.

Scarecrow
Scarecrow
11 years ago

The thought of putting on those stupid glasses and playing for hours scares the hell out of me

Seriously, if we hated the term "nerd" or "oh my god you play games" this is gonna take it to a whole new level

Spielberg's retarded, he's been corrupted by years of Hollywood stupidity

DaNgerSteVe
DaNgerSteVe
11 years ago

did anyone remember how the virtual boy failed

tes37
tes37
11 years ago

Call me lazy, but I rather my character do all the work, instead of me jumping, ducking, and rolling around.


Last edited by tes37 on 5/20/2009 2:40:50 PM

somethingrandom
somethingrandom
11 years ago

That doesn't necessarily have to be the case. Have you seen the game controllers that are operated by brain signals? You would just have to think it.

Deadman
Deadman
11 years ago

Spielburg's quote should have read "Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future."

SerichA
SerichA
11 years ago

Coming from who made the barnyard wannabe FPS Boom Blox (Yes, I played it just long enough to tear my eyes out), and that the idea is extremely expensive and gimmicky anyway (yes, it is gimmicky, while also not adding much to the modern 3D game), the idea is more of a joke. And probably an unintentional one. This isn't Kojima, you know.

Vivi_Gamer
Vivi_Gamer
11 years ago

That was made for the intention of his kids…..

dillonthebunny
dillonthebunny
11 years ago

get real Spielberg… VR is so 80's man. i was playing vr when I was a child, and look where it is now, a distant memory.

anyone over 35 will remember sticking on a hat, standing in a rubber ring and throwing your arms about.. like an eye toy, but we were far more stupid back then.
playing in vector graphics while using a virtual bow and arrow :-/

no, if anything were going to go back further. hungry horace MGS.. Hideo already has started it.

THEVERDIN
THEVERDIN
11 years ago

Here we go again get ready to lay out more bucks for a special TV. They need to come up with tech that utilizes existing devices. I have always believed that they take advantage of gamers. We're like cattle heading to slaughter. MOO MOO!!!!

fatelementality
fatelementality
11 years ago

I remember when MK Trilogy came out, I liked to envision a VR MK if you will. I'm just afraid of the whole sensory overload/heart attack deal. Kinda like old people with microwaves.

Oyashiro
Oyashiro
11 years ago

The only thing I don't like about Virtual Reality is… Well… I don't like to be punched in the face in reality. So why would I want to be punched in the face by a fist that is on fire?

How would they augment pain?

somethingrandom
somethingrandom
11 years ago

There would be no pain. That would be stupid.

Oyashiro
Oyashiro
11 years ago

Pain tells us that something is wrong (in real life). They would have to replace it with something. Unless they give us a HUD is VR which sounds equally stupid.

somethingrandom
somethingrandom
11 years ago

People don't realize that any such TV's would be high priced at first but drop as the tech becomes cheaper to make. Kind of like all technology. Example: Blu-Ray disc players!

Anyone understand yet? Pisses me off when people who are supposedly 'informed' insult their own intelligence.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

Yeah, that'll be why all those HDTVs, those $1000 TVs all come with $50 DVD players built into them right? I mean, it's a standard that everyone uses. by your logic, every TV on the market should include them since they are so very cheap.

Except of course they do not.

You can't include such additional functionality in an appliance like a TV because inevitably it will becom obsolete and need replacement, and suddenly your expensive TV with it's built in gaming tech needs to be junked in favor of a new one. Nah, don't think so.

Gee, it really ticks me off when someone comes over all smug and fails to think their concept through.

somethingrandom
somethingrandom
11 years ago

No, I didn't say every TV has to have gaming capabilities. TV's will probably be much different from the way we know them now. I'd imagine they would be very customisable and upgradeable like PC's are today. See? I thought it through pretty well.

TheHighlander
TheHighlander
11 years ago

TVs will be upgradeable? We'll lift the cover on our TVs now? At a time when things are moving towards more and more integration and sealing systems against users, you're advocating making the TV upgradable?

I'm sorry, but from a CE point of view this concept is sounding worse each time.

somethingrandom
somethingrandom
11 years ago

Are you just trying to find ways to be an asshole? But anyway, if consumers want their TV's upgradable at least a few companies will provide. It's the only way some of today's companies will survive.

twenty8nine
twenty8nine
11 years ago

So he thinks 3D movies are here to stay? Ever try watching a modern 3D movie in Blu-Ray and 3D? It always comes out looking really red or green because TV's can't polarize the image like they do in theaters and I doubt that they will anytime soon.

Wage SLAVES
Wage SLAVES
11 years ago

A Wii game creator is commenting on the "future" of gaming…ha!

Though I'd love to see 3D gaming, I cant see the demise of a dedicated console.


Last edited by Wage SLAVES on 5/20/2009 10:56:04 PM