Ben-DutkaWe're big fans of stepping back and taking a gander at the bigger picture. We want to accept and process all sorts of information, and in so doing, we can formulate a somewhat realistic theory that may have some legitimacy.
Let's look at the scenario: first of all, there's no doubt that Kingdom Hearts has been a massively popular franchise for Square-Enix in the past. Secondly, the vast majority of this success came from the first two PS2 installments, and it's probably accurate to say that most fans of the series are Sony fans. At the very least, they've owned Sony platforms in the past, correct? Thirdly, at the start of this new generation, Square-Enix clearly didn't want to toss their lot in with the slow-starting PS3, and as a result, we've seen the debut of The Last Remnant on the Xbox 360 (and the PS3 version may have disappeared), and Star Ocean: The Last Hope was a 360 exclusive. However, tri-Ace is set to announce their new game, and it will be a Square-Enix-published title that will also be multiplatform. That's significant, as we said this past week. Lastly, we'd like to assume that a next-gen KH is inevitable and the timing seems absolutely perfect; E3 may be the launching pad for the return of the Disney-based fantasy RPG. Yeah, it'll probably be multiplatform, but at the very least, that includes the PS3.
Square-Enix has been without a major announcement for quite a long time, and it almost seems as if we're long overdue for something big. We refuse to believe they would ignore the KH franchise, and with the PS3 surging and the combined PS3/360 installed user base exceeding 50 million…well, why not ? We can at least hope , can't we?
Crossing my fingers, hopeing and wishing so much, i need another KH game 🙂 i love the first two i really hope they announce it soon and that they keep it a PS3 exclusive so they dont' rush through it and screw it up.
I agree. I think this would be done best if they use the strengths of the ps3 without having to take the limitations of both consoles into consideration. I think tonight I'll have to throw in KH2
Agreed, i want my some KH3, but i'm really not expecting it anytime soon, remember the ppl making FFv13 made kh3 (or did a lot of the work). And thankfully knowing that, the head developer of that group despises the 360 so hopefully it'll be a ps exclusive, but only time will tell
Ive never really cared for the KH games.
me either… who wants to play final fantasy with donald duck and mickey mouse??? my disney loving days died a while back… now, if we could get a game that doesn't involve a 120 (give/take) year old mouse, then i'd buy that!!! but lets save disney for the kids…
Last edited by Gregory Freeman on 4/5/2009 11:15:47 PM
why?
why are kids the only ones who are allowed to enjoy disney.
im 19 and i still love everything disney.
KH and KH2 are in my top5 video games of all time since the day i played them.
i think i almost ******* myself when i watched cloud and sephiroth fight in KH2
I haven't played one, but I do have to say, the idea of them seems very odd…… I really can't see myself liking them.
Yea,the fact that i saw Donald Duck,Goofy and the rest made me feel it was childish and never picked it up for my ps2.
Though i can tell it was a fun game judging from how ppl recommended it,i see i've missed out on a whole lot.Honestly i regret never given KH a try.
Last edited by www on 4/6/2009 10:25:05 AM
well considering that tetsuya nomura is basically the man in charge with KH, idk if it will be on 360
cause he seems like a playstation kinda guy
but who knows?
Square-Enix is no longer relevant, they're a joke. Here's what will probably happen:
1. KH3 becomes a 360 exclusive
2. KH3 gets a simultaneous multi platform release with the 360 version getting "exclusive downloadable content" over the PS3 version.
3. KH3 gets a multi platform release with the 360 version getting released first due to "technical difficulties" trying to get the game running on PS3. The game under performs, the PS3 version is all but forgotten into obscurity. A few years down the line a Square Enix announces plans for a sequel, only this time in an effort to appeal to "Amore wistern audince" Mickey Mouse will be carrying a 50 caliber machine gun along with the rest of the Disney crew all carrying fully automatic weapons…
Afriad I have to agree with you. This generation JRPGs or at least ones made by SE are nothing but disappointment for the ps3.
took the words out of my mouth.When I think of Square Enix the first thing that pops out is xbox360.Unfortunately SE have formed legion of doom with microsoft so I have serious doubt that KH3 will even make it to ps3.
if kh3 becomes a x360 exclusive, I am almost certain their company will be nuked off the face of this planet
nuked by me ;D
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While I love me some final fantasy, I can't get over fighting alongside the likes of Goofy, it just won't compute no matter how hard I try. BUT I know KH is a huge title and for it to remain exclusive would be awesome for the fans.
Problem with the logic here is that Star Ocean had all it's fans on Sony consoles too, and I've become a pessimist thanks to SE and I'm tempted to say "Well, whose to say the new Tri-Ace release won't skip PS3 just like Last Remnant and Star Ocean did?"
I'm hoping that we'll see an announcement for Kingdom Hearts 3. I loved the first two games in the series. I just hope Sora, Goofy and Donald don't have to deal with people like Hannah Montana, the High School Musical dweebs or The Jonas Brothers. Keep them far, far away from this game.
never played the first 2,maybe i'll try this if it comes out for ps3….
this better be ps3 exclusive. star ocean not on ps3 was a joke. and if KH goes on both platforms that really is stupid and gay. its bad enough that i couldnt get the KH2 upgraged version that was only in japan or w.e it was. if you havent played the KH series you have missed one of the best ps2 games ever.
I would love for them to announce kh3 but I think it will be awhile.
Although i hate Square-Enix. They are just trying to do whatever that is most beneficial to their company. There are not enough PS3 users in Japan to offset the stacks of cash from Microsoft. Each game i see in japan is doesn't pass 1 million sales.
Not till the PS3 console sales reach 5-7 millions, before any RPG companies shift back to PS3. They will go "screw you Microsoft, we can make actual money without your help now". This probably wont happen until FFXIII releases in Japan. Then probably we'll see a good spike in PS3 sales. Other Jrpgs will follow.
Just patiences guys.
"There are not enough PS3 users in Japan to offset the stacks of cash from Microsoft."
last i checked… there were more ps3's sold in the land-o-rising-sun than the xbox plzfixme's so sales in japan (and the rest of the world except 4 america for that matter) isn't a problem… but the bribes do make a compelling argument…
the corporate mentality: why settle for THIS, when i get THIs, + a litle of THAT!
the diehard game developer mentality: screw THAT, im staying true to the fans… so what if I only get THIS… better than funding a crooked company…
which is S-E??
thats just how i think…
Last edited by Gregory Freeman on 4/5/2009 11:21:03 PM
i think the companies go where there's most sales. When PS2 dominates like 65%+ of the market share. There's no reason to take bribes and make games for xbox to get 1 million sales and lose 5 million for PS2, but now xbox 360 and PS3 sales are close. xbox 360 sales + free cash, its too obvious a choice.
Square-Enix and other companies are never meant to be "loyal" to a console or company. Just so happens that PS1 and PS2 dominated sales in their generations. So companies make games for that console. Just this gen, there's the recession and Microsoft playing dirty. PS3 owners will see their exclusives eventually. PS3 has 10 year lifespan, we got 8 more to see till the end.
I think the Japanese are also the problem,though ps3 is topping in console sales there,ps3's numbers are nowhere near that of NintendoDS.If Ps3 had the sales numbers of the DS then Square would definitely give ps3 more attention.
Now at the West,we have 360 topping the charts not the cot-damn DS so why shouldn't Square give Xbox 360 attention.It's not fair for some games like Last Hope being exclusive for 360,i agree on that one,it's NOT fair.
Japan is also responsible for this Square's controversial attitude.They should buy enough PS3s,not those hand-held games.They're so obsessed with gadgets in their palms with ear-pieces n sh**!
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No offence, but I do believe that KH3 will be a while before they announce. Well, it also would not surprise me if it was announced at E3 as well, because that does make sense, just as much as holding the announcements back up untill they know theyre ready to spread the word.
To be fair to Ben, it could certainly be announced at E3 even if it doesn't release for 6 years that's…kinda…their…style.
im going to call BS on this, they would announce it during the Tokyo Game SHow
Isn't there a exclusive DS KH game. Yeah I don't think I will be seeing a ps3 KH ever, SE still wants to "expand".
Yeah there is an exclusive KH DS game coming out and also an exclusive KH PSP game coming out called Birth By Sleep. Both look really promising. Please let this game be PS3 exclusive… Sony would be stupid to let this one go over.
Still clinging to square are we?
Just that Square-Enix has our favorite series in their hands. We cant forgive them. If they are willing to give them up to another developer that is fair to the PS3, we'll stop cursing at them every morning and night. How about that?
im just amused by the faith square fans have,even after the many rape sessions,classic
Square Enix + ps3 exclusive = 0.
Sorry people unfortunately that's the answer for this generation.
Everyone that's freaking out and all pissed off about Square Enix is retarded.
Seriously, it's getting so old.
But it's such a convenient place to focus our daily frustrations.
Agreed. Money talks, no matter what or who you are (Ofcourse, unless your Kojima… now thats a different story) but other than that… Bill Gates wouldnt even mind to make a few bucks (Yea, hes the richest man in the world once more but he droped from an estimated 50 billion to 40 billion now.. 10 billion hurts in a spam of a year and a half yes?) But that's just the richest man on earth, imagine a company trying to keep up with these times (Sony lost quit a big bill last year eh?) My verdict is, let the companies do what they need to do in order to survive. Lets look at Midway. It's having problems, and I for one would hate to see it go away, just for the sole fact that ive seen their name around so many times, it almost feels like it woudlnt be the same without them. Just my two cents.
Don't worry that Square Enix, who used to be one of the most loved companys that produced games for Playstion, has continuously turned their back on Playstation fans this generation, and have clubbed baby seals to death in the process.
It's getting old, yeah, but so is Square Enix's persistance to do everything in their power to piss off Playstation users.
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We will continue to be pissed off until we see results till then all I see is 360 exclusives.
to stay on topic… I played a little bit of the first KH and didn't really enjoy it all that much really. If the next KH gets released in say …3 years time from right now, there is a good chance it might be ps3 exclusive. That's quite a ways away, and for all we know MS has already dumped the 360 and is all about this new 720 or whatever. I kinda (hmm) doubt that KH3 would end up completely MS exclusive in this case, or any case really. I don't know, i'm kinda rambling… maybe i'll be more interested if SE announces it as ps3 exclusive.
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I like KH but i dont see why the Final Fantasy cast is in the game, they're really ot of place and if they werent in the game it wouldnt make much of a difference.
Though from looking at the trailers they've release, its seems like they're going a bit ovet the top, and you know what i mean by that, ex. Pokemon after the first 151 or Alien after Alien 3…..
they are there because its a Squeenix game.
and final fantasy is squeenix's biggest and best franchise, theres no doubt about that.
combining 2 of the biggest franchises ever created.
yeah BUT KH isnt exactly the type of game that pushes a system to its limits. maybe in content. but not in performance.
they could very well release the game on both consoles and still make it a stellar experience.
as long as it is coming out on the PS3, i dont really mind what els its on, they could even do it using the KH2 engine, and i still wouldnt mind, KH was always about the story and gameplay, not the graphics.
remember that people!
No offence but just because is a SE game doesnt mean they have to shove the FF cast into it, they made a cast for KH which wasnt that bad anyway. Theres no need for the FF cast to be in there the game probaly would have done better without them.
Think about it guys, this is Tetsuya Nomura we're talking about. He didn't sell out on FFv13, I doubht he'll do it now.
I was kinda hoping for this at last years E3 though lol.
Yeah, you made a great point. It seems Nomura is a playstation loyal so I dont expect to see KH3 on the xbox360.
That said, Nomura needs first to complete FFXIIIversus so even if announced this year, KH3 will be some years away.
If the game gets announced, they better keep it a playstation 3 exclusive. Just so more people can buy a playstation 3 and increase sales.
Yes – but EITHER for the 360 or multisystem… or better yet a sub-KH for the Wii
Pick and choose
Yea the Wii could do with some games.
I'm slightly confused here.
Aren't Square Enix going to release 3 spinoff-esque games of Kingdom Hearts?
Birth By Sleep [PSP]
365/8 Days [DS]
Coded [Mobile, only in Japan]
Surely Square Enix should be more concerned about those 3?
Yes they are.
I never got into playing KH I guess i'll give it a spin I didn't know this game was so popular
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