At the start of the PlayStation 3's lifespan, numerous arguments could be leveled against Sony's new machine. There weren't anywhere near enough games. At no point is the supposed amazing power of the system on display. The PlayStation Network has a loooong way to go and there's only a handful of content on the Store. The price was silly high. Blu-Ray hadn't become the accepted high-definition medium. There were even a bunch of people who absolutely despised the loss of rumble on the Sixaxis controller.

But two and a half years later, there's a very different light on the situation. Just about everything has changed, and the current and future PS3 exclusives lead the way. Much of the system's power will be on display in upcoming titles like Uncharted 2: Among Thieves , God of War III , and Gran Turismo 5 , and we've already seen incredible stuff from Killzone 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots . Blu-Ray is here to stay, the PSN is not – I repeat, is not a significantly lesser experience than Xbox Live, especially considering the fact that the Network is free – the Store content is there, and yes, you rumble nuts have the Dual Shock 3, even though I have never once understood the fascination with what I consider to be a useless feature. Oh, and let's not forget that developers have finally come around to the PS3's complex architecture and we no longer see piss-poor 360-to-PS3 ports; multiplatform titles are basically identical between the two platforms.

Therefore, there appears to be only one stumbling block left: the price. It's still too expensive to be able to top the 360 in sales on a consistent basis, almost regardless of what it offers. This recession isn't helping matters, and neither is the fact that Sony's marketing isn't all that great. But if they drop the PS3 price by $100 to put it on an even keel with the 360, we have faith that consumers will recognize a good buy when they see one. Consumers who are willing to spend a decent amount of money aren't stupid; they're going to do their research and come to a conclusion. Normal gamers without biases would've performed the same analysis; weighing the negatives and positives, way back in 2007. They would've come across an understandable conclusion and it likely would've been against the PS3. But now, in doing the same thing, we really can't see why an avid gamer would opt to ignore the PS3 and all it has to offer. Furthermore, if a person is debating between the PS3 and 360, you can make a viable argument for both, and with a price drop, the PS3 may very well come out on top in some people's minds.

Therefore, we say the final hurdle is the price and once that is cleared, we think gamers will begin – for a variety of reasons – to choose the PS3 over the 360. Weigh everything yourself and see what you come up with…

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WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

Fact block:

PS3 is performing very well for the time it's been out, and is certainly closer in sales than the gap suggest due to people buying multiple 360's due to failure.

Microsoft has little in the way of in-house studios so now that most third party titles have gone multiplat, the sheer number of Sony owned companies churning out fantastic Exclusives means that gamers will soon see which has the better must-have list and jump ship to PS3.

The graphics gap has closed and 360 appears maxed while PS3 has nowhere to go but up.

How'm I doing? Sorry if it came off as a pro-sony anti-360 rant but I'm really just looking at fairly obvious trends here.

The Price cut will come when it's financially possible.


Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 4/2/2009 11:07:49 PM

Qubex
Qubex
11 years ago

WorldEndsWithMe… let us not forget that the hackability of both Xbot360 and Wii have helped their sales along nicely… what a package, a cheap console for multiplats and you can load them up with homebrew…

Q!

"i am home"

Qubex
Qubex
11 years ago

Is the end nigh for Sony if it does not move quickly on a price cut and open up the PS3 to the "development" community? Will keeping the PS3 locked shut help or hinder her…

Read this about the Linux based – open source console – EVO.

Just look at the on board memory it comes with 🙁 I wish our PS3's were upgradeable!!!

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5134160105.html

Q!

"i am home"

coverton341
coverton341
11 years ago

Wait a minute now. Sony dropped the price of their dev kit systems to around 1000 bucks and that is a huge reduction in cost. They also added the incentive that if a developer makes a PSN title and keeps it PSN exclusive they will match production cost to help the dev out or something along those lines.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

Holy crap Qubex, that console looks like it has promise!

Anonymous
Anonymous
11 years ago

It's 10 million units behind WW and completely dominated in North America. A hundred dollar price decrease would come at a significant cost to Sony and likely to the people buying those 300 dollar PS3s. It's more likely that you'll see a 50 dollar price cut and the spike in sales will be in line with the 360's spike in sales at it's 50 dollar price cut. This isn't some magical world were Sony is going to bust out the gate and regain second place. You fanboys keep up this delusional thought and you're going to look like idiots when the next round starts. Nothing feasible can save the PS3 from remaining a 3rd place console WW.

Hexen
Hexen
11 years ago

I don't think 399 is a bad deal,I proudly 620 for mine, I could have easily bought a wii and 360 plus 2 games for each yet I bought the ps3 because that's where all of the franchises that I grew up with where or where going to be.If sony brings back most of the loved ps1 and ps2 franchises then the followers will come to the ps3.

MadKatBebop
MadKatBebop
11 years ago

I hope the price cuts, PS3 are so awesome and to me better then a 360(I own a 360 and not a PS3, and I still think their better, you can do so much more on a PS3)


Last edited by MadKatBebop on 4/2/2009 11:12:56 PM

www
www
11 years ago

Is that your favorite model?

N a S a H
N a S a H
11 years ago

lol

convergecrew
convergecrew
11 years ago

Covered wagon.

MadKatBebop
MadKatBebop
11 years ago

one of my favorite models.

cadpig
cadpig
11 years ago

Dude, you are an informed gamer. You guys are already die hard ps3 owners…What sony needs is new blood and more sales.


Last edited by cadpig on 4/2/2009 11:14:57 PM

inkme101
inkme101
11 years ago

if people want a ps3 for 300 so bad just go to craigslist, i see them going for 300 all day everyday. fact is that sony won't lower the price until they get further out of the black.

dlte
dlte
11 years ago

you mean the red?

Orvisman
Orvisman
11 years ago

Last X-mas I bought three more PS3s — one for my bedroom (so I don't have to kick the wife off the living room TV or so she can watch BluRays in bed, GOOD FOR THE MARRIAGE), one as a gift for my wife's siblings, and one for my parents who wanted a BluRay and something for the grandkids to play — from Wal-Mart when they were giving back $100 gift cards when you bought the PS3.

If you do the math, those conoles were $300. The point being that if you look around at X-mas you'll find some pretty good deals on PS3s.

Now, all I need are a Japanese 360 and Wii for some of those import only games.

photo K
photo K
11 years ago

@ Orvisman

If the price drops, I'm thinking about picking up another. Can you play online with all 3 ps3's at the same time using the same internet connection?

MadKatBebop
MadKatBebop
11 years ago

@tattedout: for real!!! I got check that out. Thanks for the tip.

bamf
bamf
11 years ago

You can picture the scenario in a store with the customer questioning about the PS3 with the store sales person. Everything Ben mentions above has been made clear to the customer. The customer likes what he/she hears and asks about the price, and the reaction is 'OH!' This is where these customers could go on and ask about the 360, and when you have the premium and arcade models that are much cheaper, you can see why these customers, who don't know much about exclusives, choose the 360 over the PS3.

The PS3 is selling reasonbaly well and its the hardware, software and features that is pushing the console while its only the price point thats keeping the 360 in top. So with a PS3 needed price drop, we should see big increase in sales.
Wasn't the PS3 outselling the 360 on a monthly basis in the first half of 2008 until the 360 had its price drop?

PS3 is doing well in Japan, if VGchartz is anything to go by. VG has the PS3 outselling the Wii in both months of Marchand February. In March VG has PS3 at 113,813 and the Wii at 74,435. Not only that, PS3 software sales in Japan nearly double that of Wii. PSP also is in good position in the last 3 months keeping a second spot behind the DS matcing it in sales. In March PSP sold 221,626 and with the DS and DSi combined only selling slightly more with 235,447.
Go Sony but like I say the data is from VChartz.

Zemus101
Zemus101
11 years ago

I agree 100% WEWM. Great article Ben 🙂
Although I paid over $600 for a crazy boxing day ps3 bundle from Futureshop, i'd gladly do it again for what I got for it. Well worth the expensive price imo. A price drop by the end of the year would tip the scales for those people on the fence, and that would only be awesome news for Sony when they can afford to do that.

godsman
godsman
11 years ago

Im sure anyone would agree that, if you can choose a free console, it would be the PS3. Only the price is holding back a purchase for anyone.

slackernz
slackernz
11 years ago

22 million ps3 sold in 2.5 years vs 28+ million X360 is 3.5 years.. I say PS3 has done an amazing job!

Looking at the ps3 exclusives on the horizon, it's just gonna keep rising in sales and popularity and piss all over the 360 on its way up!

xnonsuchx
xnonsuchx
11 years ago

Maybe it's because the original Xbox was so bad that people expected Sony to leapfrog them once the PS3 was out??? Higher unit sales and games published per year doesn't seem to enter so-called 'analysts' tiny minds when they bash the PS3. Are they M$ fans? Are they unreasonably upset about Sony (and the Japanese, in general) controlling the console market for too long? It would be interesting to find out why they DO think the way they do, but one odd probable fact is that they don't even play ANY of them.

CH1N00K
CH1N00K
11 years ago

The original Xbox was bad? I had one that worked for years. Didn't know that there were that many issues with it. I actually enjoyed it, although my game library for my ps2 was much larger. (PS2 50+ games, Xbox 7 games…) I didn't bother get the 360 for the 4 games I might actually play that I couldn't play on my PS3

bamf
bamf
11 years ago

The thing is I doubt there are 28 million 360 users with so many having to buy a second, even a third 360.

raztad
raztad
11 years ago

I got mine 80G ps3 for 360$ from DELL, taxes included. I dont see Sony dropping ps3 price anytime soon, probably they are confident that exclusives games can keep pushing ps3 out of shelves. USA market is the real issue for Sony, Japan is a lost case for MS and Europe seems to be more on the Sony side, so the PS3 seems to be selling pretty well worldwide.

Sony said that they are all about profitability instead of marketshare. That people know how to manage their business. We, gamers, only need to worry for our missing Jrpgs. Even if PS3 stays at last place, its current (and growing userbase) can't be ignored anymore. Tales of Vesperia, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Bioshock 2, say Hi! 😀


Last edited by raztad on 4/3/2009 12:33:17 AM

JasperLoons
JasperLoons
11 years ago

I really don't care if the PS3 ends up passing the 360 in sales. The video game market has changed this generation. I think it is clear to everyone that the most sales do not equal the best console anymore (looking at you Wii).

The PS3 is selling enough that it can't be ignored anymore, and that's all we need. I just want Sony to do whatever is best for them, to keep them supporting the system. If that means no price drop, then so be it.

*Aw hell, I didn't mean to reply to you raztad. Now it looks like I was just trying to get my comment higher on the page.


Last edited by JasperLoons on 4/3/2009 11:30:58 AM

Ultimate_Balla
Ultimate_Balla
11 years ago

Most My Friends @ School(If Not All Of Them) Choose The Ps3 Over The xBox360, But Because Of The Prices, They Tend to Lean To The 360… I Prices Drop Wouldn Be Half Terrible At All.

sunspider13
sunspider13
11 years ago

Right now with bills and the need to eat, atm I'm playing my PS3 games on my brothers PS3. I will be getting my own; in fact I'll be getting 2 of them, a B/C 80 GB model from craig's list (coming next week whoot!) and a brand spanking new model in a month or two. For a minute I thought about getting a 360, but only for a minute, lol.

I and the general public would welcome a price drop. Some of my friends that have 360's said that they would like to get a PS3 but because of the price they settled for M$ POS or a Wii.

I do know that when a drop happens, the margin of the number of systems sold that M$ holds and bashes Sony over the head with every chance they get will slowly disappear. Nunfar, do the Dance of Joy! *dances*

isaya85
isaya85
11 years ago

I paid $300 for my 40gb PS3 brand new, I had to sell my 360 to get it but it was well worth it, IMO I don't care how much Sony talk about the value of the PS3 alot of people are not dropping $400 dollars for it most of the hardcore fans have one it's the casuals they need to convince and they're buying Wii like there's no tomorrow

PSN ID Biggest_GMoney

www
www
11 years ago

Yea like for real,Sony needs to cut the price.
"But their making losses?"….Yes, n we're also in a recession.
Sony will have to make the move first if they want to surpass 360,else consumers will opt for the cheaper 360 which makes sense.

So really,we know Sony are losing but at the same time………*sigh*…….idk!

RadioHeader
RadioHeader
11 years ago

Always with the price…
I think you'll find that the PS3 out-sold the M$ junker last year (world-wide). It's a shame that it's not doing so well in the best represented country on the internet (America). You guys paint a pretty grim picture, and that's probably a bigger turnoff than the price for some potential buyers.
PS3 costs more because it's better.

dveisalive
dveisalive
11 years ago

Look fellas im going to sum it up. PS3 Rules and will surpass 360 by 2010.

niceboy
niceboy
11 years ago

Good day everyone, My name is Ernice, I'm a Born again Christian and an avid video game player, (PS3) I reside in the US Virgin Islands and have been a long time visitor to your site, i only decided to sign up now, no reasons in particular. Here's what i want to say, first and foremost i think the writers on this like Ben a amazing even if i've read a post about the same news somewhere else i come here to hear what Ben and the guys have to say. Here's my issue: Why do video games developers feel the need to put curse words in their video games? Don't the blood and gore make it mature enough? I mean c'mon, Killzone for example i was totally on the hype train and i got mine on day one. Feb. 27th for those who can't remember and although it was and still is the best shooter i've ever experienced, i had to turn down the speech totally hence reducing my enjoyment of the game, and although i believe the game will sell very well, there are potential buyers out there who won't because of the unneccessary Fbombs in there. I hope someone takes this up to guerilla games, and they tone down the cursing in the next iterattion. Last but not least and this is just my first post of what will become many, I'm a fan of the sony PS systems, been one for a long time and i don't see the need to stop now, if you are don't hide it, it's ok, Just like i'm not afraid to proclaim that Jesus Christ is Lord, and he loves you so much that he died on Calvary's cross to save our souls from eternal damnation. Doesn't matter where you've been what you've done, where you are, He loves you. You may be going through some rough times, why don't you accept him into your heart, it's easy. Say lord Jesus, forgive me, and save me. That's it! You have now just experience the greatest miracle in your life. He will now lead you into all truth. God Bless you all! Next post: -Rave-

CH1N00K
CH1N00K
11 years ago

I don't know if you've noticed but most games that are rated "M" aren't suitable for Children and Christians..born again or not..You should know that. It is your choice whether you buy it or not. They aren't forcing this game unto you (like some people do with their beliefs) It's your choice to walk away. I'd suggest you think about that before you post on here again. Something also tells me that I may be posting this in Vain, because Political or "controversial" comments will generally get banned, and I think you my friend have crossed into a controversial area…

Jordahn
Jordahn
11 years ago

@ Ch1nook

I'm a Christian, and let me be clear that I play "Mature" games. That's all I'm going to say here because it's off topic.

CH1N00K
CH1N00K
11 years ago

I may have worded that wrong. I didn't mean that to be an attack against Christianity. I was just saying that most Mature rated games don't necessarily uphold the moral teachings of the bible which some Christians would have a problem with.

But again..this is a discussion that is better suited for the forums.

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

You don't like Fbombs while you're shooting people because you're a Christian? Besides being ridiculous, that has nothing to do with this article. If you've been reading here as long as you claim then how come you don't know better than to make a comment off topic?

SHADOW
SHADOW
11 years ago

@niceboy: Offtopic stuff like this belongs in the forums not a randomly chosen comment section. Please refer yourself to this topic http://www.psxextremeforums.com/gaming-discussion/9636-caution-could-deemed-controversial.html

I hope that you will remain a part of the site and community as a whole, but this is your warning you only get one. Next time your post will be deleted without warning.

Jordahn
Jordahn
11 years ago

I didn't read all the responses, but let me just say this…

FACT: PS3 sales were greater than 360's from the 2007 Christmas shopping season (from Nov. 2007) until the 360 price drop last fall of 2008. There is a demand for the PS3. No doubt about it! Therefore, I see a $300 PS3 taking back that lead over the 360.

But the reality is that I'm not going to worry over it since there is not a $300 PS3, and I'm not going to expect it anytime soon. I'm just going to keep enjoying this quality console and its offering while telling other people about it.

raztad
raztad
11 years ago

@Jordan

You are spot on. The PS3 is doing fine overall, Im sure Sony is pretty happy about PS3 performance. They are even expecting to sell 10-15% more PS3 than last year. Moreso, dont expect a price drop BEFORE GoW3.

AAA quality games are coming, but AAA quality games we already HAVE. Right now I am enjoying one of the must UNDERrated game of this gen, that's Folklore. Awesome Action-rpg.

CH1N00K
CH1N00K
11 years ago

I'm more interested in seeing what the reactions on here will be like when the PS3 does start outselling the MS system. Inevitably as more people move to the PS3, so will some of the "haters" that are slamming the system now. Will the fanboysism slow down? or will the remaining MS fanboys simply ramp up their efforts?

niceboy
niceboy
11 years ago

What's so controversial about talking about ones belief? I see, so folks could insert fbombs and all sorts of other uncensored language on here, but when it comes to something decent, rule is it should be banned? And also, i know you don't mean that if a game or movie is rated as "mature" that it should have cursing, cause that's what you're saying when you state games that are listed as "M" is not for Christians. Call of Duty Modern Warfare had no FBOMBS, but a lot of action and hence went on to be the best selling FPS thus far. Word of mouth is big in game sales and if you have folks running around saying this game is good but i can't stand the indecent language, then a lot of folks will take notice. I'm not trying to force my beliefs on anyone, There are a lot on none Christians out there who feel just the way i feel. Killzone 2 would be better off, with no FBombs and less Sbombs. period. (Men! i wanted to rave for my next post not rant)

Jordahn
Jordahn
11 years ago

As much as people use profanity here, I see nothing wrong with taking about Christianity as long as it's done respectable. But this article isn't the place for such discussions.

CH1N00K
CH1N00K
11 years ago

If you want to insist on discussing this, I would suggest you sign up for the forums and post in there. The discussions in there can be a little more liberal than in the comments section.
I will gladly have a discussion with you in there if you wish, but as Jordahn said..this is not the place for it.


Last edited by CH1N00K on 4/3/2009 8:47:16 AM

JofaMang
JofaMang
11 years ago

I smell a troll, tbh. Having been an internet forum nerd for like, 12 years, I've seen false bait like this a thousand times.

Someone that sincere about their beliefs has many avenues to discuss their religious opinions outside of a gaming website. What other purpose would such a cliche post have then to stir up negative responses? Could a sane rational person read this site and honestly figure that they would have a productive conversation about god's opinion on Video Games?

If you are sincere, I apologize, and suggest that you look for more belief specific forums and sites (or like suggested, in the forums here, not in response threads) to talk about your beliefs.

But I still think its a troll~

Evil Incarnate
Evil Incarnate
11 years ago

Well I'm an atheist and see no problem with colorful language in video games. If I felt the way you do about cursing and gore in video games I would have bought a Wii. I have always considered Xbox/Playstation brands as the platforms geared towards more mature audiences.

CH1N00K
CH1N00K
11 years ago

I had actually thought the same thing about the "Troll" when I first read it, but I took the bait anyways.If they respond here again then I'll ignore it. If they post in the forums, I'll gladly have a discussion with them. I'm always up for a good discussion, no matter what your background/belief.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

Why do I get the feeling Ben decided to let us handle this for him?

niceboy
niceboy
11 years ago

No "Troll" here guys, just an honest avid video gamer posting his opinions, but as you said, we'll catch up on the forums, remember our opinons may vary on certain issues don't matter what the case is, in this one i'm stating that even non Christians that i talk to find no need for excessive "colourful" language in a video game that has the ability to appeal to a wide and i mean very wide audience. At least put in an option like say "Bad Company" that game has a feature that allows you to turn off the vile language, i think it's a great feature for people like me who've been in video gaming since atari days, listen this is not an attempt to "dis" no one and again, this aint no "troll" you mean not one of you can understand where i'm coming from? Think about it; not all gamers like that kind of language.