With the latest Nielsen data , we noted that while the majority of males aged 18-24 played on a PlayStation 3, the 12-17 demographic was most prevalent on the Xbox 360. This represents a possible answer for the online experiences I've had in the past few years.

Now, because I'm always required to throw in four and a half thousand disclaimers in almost every article these days, lest certain people freak out and start assigning inaccurate labels to the site and myself, let me just say this- obviously, that data was only taken during the fourth quarter of 2008. It's not definitive; no survey data is. Furthermore, I'm well aware that any evidence I'm presenting is personal, which is inherently flawed to begin with. But it will be interesting to see the responses…am I the only one who has had the following online experiences? It appears that the aforementioned age difference has confirmed – to some extent – my suspicion that Xbox Live is infested with far more nastiness, ugliness, and immaturity in general. I also hear obviously younger voices more often when playing Live, so that's another clear sign.

Has anyone else noticed this? It's almost 100% for me. If I play one hour on the PSN and one hour on Live, I will invariably hear far more in the way of disgusting commentary on the latter than I will on the former. They're all strangers, but on the PSN, I hear many more gamers who are both older and more civil. Of course, both online services have their share of useless crap (it's unavoidable), and I will freely admit that during the launch of PlayStation Home late last year, I really needed to turn my headset off. I will also admit I spend more time on the PSN, but oftentimes, that's because I weighed one experience against the other. I would say, "hmm, I can either listen to the petulant 10-year-old racist freaks who play Gears of War 2 all day, or I could play with some decent people who just want to kick back and have some fun with Resistance 2 ." For the record, I know more than a few people who have all had similar experiences.

Obviously, I would always recommend playing with friends and people you know in the first place, but that's not always possible. And as I simply don't have the motivation to take online gaming seriously, I just can't abide the swearing and trash-talking and worse that typically assaults my ears. It just seems to happen way more frequently on Live. So the only conclusion I can reach, from my own perspective mind you, is that the PSN crowd is simply older and more mature. Am I entirely off base?

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Cpt_Geez
Cpt_Geez
11 years ago

II don't know and who cares II have all the systems so wit me its either or…. cuz II got money lol.

rell
rell
11 years ago

Dude don't get piss at ben, he was just saying how he feels about his online experience, he wasn't bashing 360 or the wii. I do agree with u ben I have yet to run into children on psn r2, but when I played gears 1 and 2 I constantly run into potty mouths children. I did own a 360 but I gave it to my sister no game on the 360 kept me wanting more.

crapreviews
crapreviews
11 years ago

i havnt played xbox but from what im hearing from a lot of ppl who do have it is that live has a lot of kids….

kreate
kreate
11 years ago

i know personally, and have met many kids who has a 360 and a wii combo. but i never met a kid who has a ps3.

kid = 12 or younger

kreate
kreate
11 years ago

maybe microsoft should make a playground style HOME just for the xbox kids ūüôā cuz the kids are the majority of the xbox community xD

kid = 12 or younger

www
www
11 years ago

Yes iv'e seen a lotta immature people on Home too.They keep screamin' GAY!!!…..FAT!!!….BLACK!!!…..all kinds of derogatory terms.PSN is not fully legit.

PS3_Wizard
PS3_Wizard
11 years ago

where you been kreate?

kreate
kreate
11 years ago

i was trying to give the xbox 1 more try. other than that, just been busy with life i guess.

Akuma_
Akuma_
11 years ago

The other day i was playing COD4 on my ps3. and there was some kid running around going "BOOM HEADSHOT" and saying other crap.

I spent the entire round punishing said opponent…time and time again =]

he shut up pretty quickly after that.

Joema
Joema
11 years ago

Maybe it's just me but way more people on PSN listen to really loud music in the background and I rarely experience this on live.

kreate
kreate
11 years ago

its just you. but if u meet anyone like that in the future. just mute them.

elass0wyp0
elass0wyp0
11 years ago

I've noticed that too. I think the default mics sensitivity is set too high for the official headset. Those things pick up everything.

IMO LIVE gamers seem entitled to speak since they got a mic with the console. PSN gamers seem to respect the mic more. Not everyone has one, on LIVE every ahole who can afford a console gets one-old and young.

Mics on LIVE are like opinions and assholes-every body has one and they use LIVE to make them heard.

Random_Steve
Random_Steve
11 years ago

me too, especially on COD4. Damn annoying people (waves fist)

kidgrid
kidgrid
11 years ago

HAHAHAH thats is exactly what I run into on PSN. or it sound like a daycare in the back. comon dad put down the controller and pick up that screaming kid. then on live i cant count how many times some 10 year old white kid calls me nigger when i cap him.

Jonesy555
Jonesy555
11 years ago

"Mics on LIVE are like opinions and assholes-every body has one and they use LIVE to make them heard. "

Best play on words I've heard all year(so far)! You win 5 internets!


Last edited by Jonesy555 on 2/20/2009 4:24:39 PM

Im The Man
Im The Man
11 years ago

Well I don't get on the psn to play games much(Live either lately…) but if its even a fraction less immature than Live then that wouldn't surprise me.

When I play on Live now I just avoid talking in my headset altogether unless I'm certain I'm with a mature group of people(which is less frequent) in order to avoid all of the racial slurs, screaming, and other noises that people's mics pick up.

I used to play the original gears every night. Part 2? Meh. It's kind of tiresome now to want to put up with the nonsense. But it hasn't been like that with l4d so maybe its gotten better?

In my opinion on Live people talk too much and on the psn people are kind of quiet(which is what I'd prefer unless you have something useful to say). I'm only speaking on the experience I had with unreal tournament 3(suck ass game) so I'm not sure.


Last edited by Im The Man on 2/19/2009 10:55:36 PM

rell
rell
11 years ago

@ Im the Man u don't like gears 2 either in my opinion gears1 is better I felt like gears2 wasn't that good as the first one thats just my opinion. Epic games I guess is running dry with improvements to the franchise.

KING313
KING313
11 years ago

Playstation has a more mature userbase period. There are barely any family-oriented games for the PS3. When compared to all the bloody, gorey, drug abusing, shoot 'em titles that are ever so popular with the playstation crowd, ita a landslide in favor of the mature titles. I don't know anyone younger than 15 who has a PS3. Everyone in my family or friends' family younger than 15 has a Wii, maybe an xbox here and there.

kreate
kreate
11 years ago

there are family oriented games in ps3.
little big planet, folklore, hot shots golf. (non-violent)

if u go to psn store, there are lots of family oriented games.

if u go to HOME, there are also family oriented games. just kick back at the bowling alley with your family and play bowling for free.


Last edited by kreate on 2/20/2009 1:53:11 AM

Random_Steve
Random_Steve
11 years ago

my liitle bro is 10 and there are barely any games for him to play on the PS3. Hes likes LBP, lego series, force unleashed and Kung fu panda. That probs why kids between whatever the age was in the article yesterday prefer wiis.

Daedusian
Daedusian
11 years ago

My friend and I laugh just about everytime we get together online and play some matchmaking on Halo3. I'd say a good 60% of the time, there's some 12 year old (who could probably pass as a 9 year old) playing along with us. Always screaming, yelling, singing, telling us about their day at school, and so forth.

So I'd say the PS3 has more mature gamers based on the fact that, like Im The Man stated, there really aren't any family based games on the PS3 (which I like) and people don't spew random nonsense or talk in general either (also a plus).

Even so, sometimes when I'm on Live, I notice more trash talking, but then again, people do talk more on Live than PSN, but not a considerable amount more.

I think only the team based games people should talk and that's about it. Team Slayer on Halo3, for example, no one really needs to talk.. it's not a tactical game, so who gives? (at least that's the way I feel) Socom Confrontation and L4D however is important, although I have not had any experience with either of them yet..


Last edited by Daedusian on 2/19/2009 11:22:45 PM

kreate
kreate
11 years ago

what family oriented games are there in the 360?

Orvisman
Orvisman
11 years ago

I was just going to ask that. Any family oriented games on the 360 are multiplat and, therefore, on the PS3 too.

It's not like Microsoft Studios puts out a lot of family oriented exclusive games.

Besides, all those 12 year olds are apparently playing games (GOW, GOW2, Halo 3, GTA4, etc…) over their age limit on Live anyway.

I guess I'll find out for myself soon because I ordered two 13-month Live Gold cards when Amazon was selling them for around $30.

slayerkillemall
slayerkillemall
11 years ago

technically speaking psn should have a younger audience since its free compared to live which you pay for, then again you can buy an xbox for 200 bucks yet ps3 cost $400. maybe it depends on luck? or timing?…one thing is for certain id rather play with mature people than kids who have nothing to say about the game we're playing….

Fane1024
Fane1024
11 years ago

That was the argument in favor of Live vs. PS2 online, but it's mostly B.S.

Parents who let their spoiled kids play M-rated games will also pay for a Live subscription.

It's no barrier to immaturity, except that it's more expensive to re-up after being banned (which only really happens to cheaters, anyway).

dveisalive
dveisalive
11 years ago

The only thing I cant stand is all of the racial things you have to here all of the time, and why do people say viral thins when or if they were to come to my neck of the woods they wouldnt even survive!

SplendidBlended
SplendidBlended
11 years ago

Idk about Live, but I've found that most people are pretty nice on PSN.
Then again, I'm not so sure about Home. It's especially hard playing Home if you're female… :
But, I was playing the RE5 demo the other day, and everyone was really nice, and worked well together. One person accidentally killed me though, so I was lying there in my own blood while this guy was shouting into his mic "DUDE, I KILLED YOU DUDE. I AM SOOOO SORRY DUDE"

Ahaha.

Online play on LBP is great. People are always nice, and it's so much fun to work together. I think LBP is rather unique in the way it brings people together just to have fun and not kill anything. [:

I have noticed that xbox owners seem to be very, very angry people. This might be the problem with Live. Lol.

Im The Man
Im The Man
11 years ago

I have yet to find one person with a mic when i play lbp

Qwarktast1c
Qwarktast1c
11 years ago

i agree
there are very few civilized people on live, they are few and far between

and yeah i can see what you mean about being the one girl. all the other guys crowd around the chicks behaving like d*ckheads, and it sucks cause if i myself want to have a legit conversation with the girl, they think that i'm like the d*ckhead dudes.

i think the reason for this is cause alot of them don't usually talk to women and they think they have to be idiots when they approach a girl.
lol

Im The Man
Im The Man
11 years ago

@qwark you arent trying to "meet" girls on home are you?

kreate
kreate
11 years ago

if a guy wants to meet girls on HOME, is that wrong?

if a girl wants to meet guys on HOME, is that wrong?

if a person wants to meet new people via internet related sources, is that wrong?

HOME is a social community for anyone to socialize with.

Qwarktast1c
Qwarktast1c
11 years ago

@i am the man

oh come on, get over yourself
i'm not tryin to "meet" girls on Home
home is a online social community.
and what do you do on a social community???
u meet new people and converse with them

if people wanna turn it into some eharmony crap then that's their deal, not mine

i realize you are probably just making a joke, but am using it to prove my point

kreate
kreate
11 years ago

it might of been hard for females to play HOME back in December, but that is not the case anymore.

its actually much easier for females to play HOME now. i see my sister go on HOME and no longer does she get crowded like how she did back in december. according to her, she actually misses those days.

there are many girls on HOME now and the attention of guys on HOME has attracted and encouraged many females to play HOME.

source:my sister

www
www
11 years ago

It's already been said numerous times that females in HOME catch all the attention.

rell
rell
11 years ago

Its sad that home has alot of jerks.

Arvis
Arvis
11 years ago

@Cobra Salad:

Your experience with that guy on the RE5 demo had me cracking up. In one of my very first Warhawk matches, there was a rather verbose guy on my team who was just constantly shouting encouragement and whatnot at our team the whole time. Could have been annoying had he not been so nice and funny. Anyways, I drove by him in a jeep and he's like "Arvis, wait wait!" so I went to back up and I accidentally backed over him and killed him. I was like "Oh man, I really didn't mean to do that!" and he just shouted "ARVIS! ARVIS WHYYYYYY!?!?!"

Good times.

-Arvis

P.S. Nice new pic, btw, Cobra. =)

coverton341
coverton341
11 years ago

i just realized that when you move the DS3 the loading screen moves with it in the KZ2 demo

On topic: Immature here just out of spite when I feel like it but most of the time yes PSN has a higher level of maturity that is why i have a year of Live going to sh**

kreate
kreate
11 years ago

my xbox pro i bought in x-mas of 2006 is dead. its been dead for a while. but because i am a gamer, i bought another xbox360 (brand new). i switched over my old HDD as well as my charger kit(controller) from my broken 360.

i received a free month of live. i never went online with the 360 before because the ps3 lets me play games online for free.

the problem is… my free month of live is just collecting dust. after i downloaded all the 360 exclusive trailers and demos. there's just not much to do on xboxlive. i am replaying gears of war1 and i am planning to buy fable2 soon.

those nintendo wii style avatars are extremely gay, and i am playing xbox360 exclusive single player rpgs by myself cuz there's nothing else to do on the xbox360.

rell
rell
11 years ago

thats cool. GG rocks for that.

coverton341
coverton341
11 years ago

Yeah I hate the new xbox experience it feels like a cheap varnish for the original live service (kinda like vista to xp) but I digress. I play Mass Effect and Lost Odyssey and Ninja Gaiden 2 thats about it because everytime I play Fable 2 now one of my friends wants to jump in kill the villagers and bounce and it pisses me off.

PS3_Wizard
PS3_Wizard
11 years ago

haha coverton, how can you still call them "friends" for killing your villagers?!

Sir Shak
Sir Shak
11 years ago

The only multiplayer I ever play is resistance 2 co-op and sometimes rocket launcher deathmatch on gta4 . Even the levels on lbp I play alone . Multiplayer has always been an add on for me so I don't care about immature people .

tankerkevo
tankerkevo
11 years ago

I have both, and I have been saying this for over a year now. At work my colleagues mostly play on Live and every once in awhile I'll login with them. I've tried to convince them that PSN is so much better to game on because there's a lot less squeaky voices, and it has SOCOM (which is really the only game I play religiously).

Maybe that's why though. SOCOM just seems to be a more intelligent shooter than most and takes a patience and strategy that most other shooters don't. In other words, SOCOM is not very kid friendly to begin with…OR…maybe it just seems that way because there's very few kids so teams can focus on more in depth aspects of gaming…not sure.

So I guess it begs the questions of which came first: The bullet or the gun? The can or the can opener? The puck or the stick? The chicken or the egg? The depth of game or lack of immature voices?

I definitely believe though that it's easier for kids to convince their parents to buy them a 360 because of the upfront costs involved between the two systems…which is why I really don't want to see the PS3 and 360 selling at the same upfront cost.

BigTonesAUS
BigTonesAUS
11 years ago

Don't know, I haven't played on live but on PSN i've come across my fair share of idiots.

King James
King James
11 years ago

I used to run into those internet tough guys/racist/idiots/assholes all the time when I played Halo 3, Gears 1 & 2, etc.

I've only ran into those kind of idiots on the PSN 3 times over the 2 years+ I've had it.

Geobaldi
Geobaldi
11 years ago

I can believe it. Even playing certain PC games against Live players, you encounter the same thing. I have since forbade myself from playing against them. Seems they have gotten worse than they were originally. Anybody else see that trend?

infekt
infekt
11 years ago

I sold my 360 copy of CoD4 to get the PS3 version just because I was tired of hearing 6 year olds taking shots are my so called "sister" and how they are so "bad-ass". Sucked the fun out of gaming. PS3/PSN is best, hands down in my view. Call me a fanboy, I really don't care. My experience is for me alone, not for me to ram down someone else's throat. Let the kids play on the 360. Keeps the rif-raf away from us.


Last edited by infekt on 2/20/2009 1:28:37 AM

kreate
kreate
11 years ago

is it that bad on xboxlive playing cod4?
if a game is multiplatform, i always get the ps3 version cuz i want my 360 to live longer so i play it to a minimum.

Qubex
Qubex
11 years ago

The rif-raf will always be around though… the headset "switch-off" technique is best… I don't have a headset and probably never will…

Q!

"i aM hOMe"

Cavan
Cavan
11 years ago

i think theres a good reason for this, every 360 that is sold comes with a headset, therefore every kid that has had one bought for christmas/birthday has a headset.

since one dosnt come with the ps3, and you have to go out and buy one, alot of kids dont have the money to spend on a headset, if they do have some money, there more likely to spend it on a game, not a headset, therefore the ppl who do have headsets on the ps3, are older ppl who have more free money to spend on their playstations.