Towards the end of last year, it was reported that all future PlayStation 3 titles (in 2009 and beyond) must support Trophies. This came as good news to many, especially after a year where Trophy support was spotty at best (they had only freshly introduced the feature, remember). However, some games in 2009 clearly don't boast Trophies, so…what's the deal?

Well, PSU contacted SCE to get an answer on this matter. Thing is, a game has to have been "submitted for certification after January 1, 2009" to fall under this new mandatory Trophy rule. One game used as an example, the recently released and unfortunately mediocre Shellshock 2: Blood Trails , does not have Trophy support. But it was submitted to the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) way back in June 2008, so they didn't need to include Trophies. So for a little while longer, you may want to check the certification date with the ESRB or BBFC before picking up a game with the supposed added bonus of "mandatory Trophy support." Obviously, once we get to the point where almost no games would've been submitted before January 1 of this year, this will become an irrelevant issue. For the time being, though, this is a clarification that many gamers have been looking for; we've seen plenty of questions like, "hey, I thought all PS3 games were supposed to have Trophies now!" Technically, yes, that's true. Just read the fine print.

We're still not sure how important Trophies (and Achievements on the Xbox 360) are to most gamers, but we imagine they act as nice little additions to the experience. We doubt many are breaking their fingers trying to get every last Trophy/Achievement for every game they play…or maybe plenty are, who knows?

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jaybiv
jaybiv
11 years ago

Trophies are good to have but I wouldn't base a decision on them.

Orvisman
Orvisman
11 years ago

Ditto!

Qubex
Qubex
11 years ago

Same here!

Q!

"i aM hOMe"

SubjectiveTruth
SubjectiveTruth
11 years ago

How important are trophies to most gamers?
What ought to be done is a big website has to have a poll. Make it big news too, get as many gamers to vote so we know. That'd be cool, I have wondered this same thing for a long time.

Akuma_
Akuma_
11 years ago

ive come to believe that the trophies add a whole new level of replayability.

i can see myself playing deadspace 3 times over. just to snag that platinum.

a game, that usuall you wouldt play more then once.

coverton341
coverton341
11 years ago

Agreed with jaybiv I would not base my purchase on trophy support. While they are cool and all they do not make or break a game by any means. I mean would anyone honestly buy Shellshock 2 if it had trophy support? I have read some of the reviews for this game and I honestly wouldn't spend the money to crap on the game but I will wait and see if a PSXE review comes out and makes me change my mind. I had such hope for a new Viet Nam game too 🙁

JasperLoons
JasperLoons
11 years ago

You know, when they announced this whole trophy thing I couldn't have cared less. Much to my surprise though, I've turned into a bit of a trophy whore.
I don't decide what games to play based on whether they have trophies, but it will certainly keep me playing the game longer.

NiteKrawler
NiteKrawler
11 years ago

Yea me too actually. I've been going back through GTA 4 to try to get all the trophies. To my surprise…the hardest one for me is going to be getting a turkey in bowling. I hate bowling!

Banky A
Banky A
11 years ago

Naw, the hardest would be Wanted =D
That one's gonna' be the only Trophy can't get and I'll have Platinums in every other game.

🙁

NiteKrawler
NiteKrawler
11 years ago

No way, 'wanted' just takes time. A LOT of time. The bowling one takes either skill or luck, both of which I do not possess. It was hard enough for me to beat the high score in Qubed!

noshownogo
noshownogo
11 years ago

Honestly if the Trophies meant we could use it as the equivalent to cash in HOME or on the PSN then it would mean alot more to the consumer.

Cpt_Geez
Cpt_Geez
11 years ago

I'm official trophy hunting I've been getting achievements on the 360 since day one and wit the ps3 every since they added trophies it would just feel weird to play a game that didn't have them.

MSB 007
MSB 007
11 years ago

i just joined even though i have been going to this site for games info for about 2 years now:P

ahahaha


Last edited by MSB 007 on 2/18/2009 11:00:13 AM

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
11 years ago

Better late than never. Welcome. 🙂

Willcome2Urf
Willcome2Urf
11 years ago

Doesn't make or break a game, but it does add replay incentive.

JofaMang
JofaMang
11 years ago

I'm a trophy whore, for better or worse~

Qubex
Qubex
11 years ago

Heh, you never have to worry about a divorce!

Q!

"i aM hOMe"

Fabi
Fabi
11 years ago

@Jasper – I'm the same way, well not really a whore for them. But I also didn't care for them up until my friends started competing with me. I still don't care, but I'm so competitive that I want to have more trophies than them.

I usually don't even come close to getting all of them though, and I don't really try, but it's cool beating my friends in anything I can.

Geobaldi
Geobaldi
11 years ago

Trophies still serve no purpose for me. It's nice to see one pop up on screen for accomplishing whatever task was completed, but I never browse through the trophy list to see all of them and usally delete the trophy file off my hard drive later. If there was more incentive to collect them THEN I might pay more attention to them. But until then they are just an added perk.

bearbobby
bearbobby
11 years ago

What really bugs me is when a multi-platform game is released with achievements for the 360, but no trophy's for us PS3'ers. How friggin hard could it be to take the list of achievements and implement them into our games.

It's just being lazy, plain and simple. If a game like Flower (awesome by the way) can have 2 dozen trophy's, then games like skate or COD4:MW shouldn't be an issue.

At least some companies have stepped up and release a patch like Fallout 3 and GTA4, but it really should be across the board.

While we're on the subject, developers should be allowing custom soundtracks as well for all games. I mean "come on!"

lol

tankerkevo
tankerkevo
11 years ago

What I Use Trophies/Achievements For:

I like to see what trophies people on my friends list have so I can not only see what games they play, but what games they are really into. This way if I ever get stuck in a game, feel like going online, or whatever I know who to contact.

Wage SLAVES
Wage SLAVES
11 years ago

Yeah, it adds more replayability to the game…so they are a lil important. Im a bit of a trophy whore myself.

booze925
booze925
11 years ago

wow! not a fanboi comment yet. im impressed

robinhood2010
robinhood2010
11 years ago

PS3 is the best, X360 sucks ass!


Last edited by robinhood2010 on 2/18/2009 10:07:19 PM

Kiengo
Kiengo
11 years ago

I'll play for however long I need to in order to get trophies. I love 'em. Would I not buy a game due to lack of trophies? No. But I really like the challenge they bring.

hart_attack
hart_attack
11 years ago

until trophies actually give us an award for getting them, i dont see why we have them

firehahahahaha
firehahahahaha
11 years ago

I usualy try to go for the platinum on most of my games, but before they were out, I really didn't care. But if I buy a game that doesn't have trophies, I'm not gonna care. It's still a good (or bad) game regardless

Random_Steve
Random_Steve
11 years ago

i love trophies, tryin to get the flower at the mo

city96
city96
11 years ago

Trophies can just easily be added in A PATCH

Fane1024
Fane1024
11 years ago

No, they really can't.

Even if it were technically easy to insert the new code into the existing code (which in most cases would not be true–Uncharted was built with trophies in mind), the dev would still have to re-test the entire game to make sure the trophy code didn't break anything and re-sumbit it to Sony.

Banky A
Banky A
11 years ago

I love Trophies.
I would've stopped with GTA IV a long time ago if it didn't get the easy bronze and Gold trophies.

The extra time I got after that game for Trophies is 40 hrs (story).
Now Fly The Co-op and Wanted (OMFGGGG who has the time to get to Lv 10 WTFBBQ?) are going to destroy me.

=D

And they're good for people to show off skill on hard achievements (e.g. COD5 Sum of All Zeros).

Ves
Ves
11 years ago

Check the comments on the new MGO expansion at the PlayStation Blog, their all screaming for trophies.
I really wonder if that is the only reason people buy games for these days. NVM I answered my own question I think.


Last edited by Ves on 2/18/2009 1:16:44 PM

Zorigo
Zorigo
11 years ago

trophies in mgs4 would be epic.

JPBooch
JPBooch
11 years ago

The only game I've bought so far without trophies is Tomb Raider. Was pleased to find out they will be releasing a patch for trophies in the near future. I've been more on a platinum kick really. I've got 5 games I havent even touched yet since I've been going for those coveted platties. 10 so far and only need 1 more trophy in Midnight club for 11.

Alienange
Alienange
11 years ago

I'm surprised at the trophy hate in a lot of comments. What's the matter? You're not paying for trophy support. Like 'em or hate 'em, they're part of the next gen experience. It gives you that little something extra for having put in the effort on a game. Many refer to the re-playability which is true, and I find it also helps you experience more of the game. I would have played every miscellaneous quest in Fallout 3 regardless, but giving me a trophy for doing them is a treat. One could plow through PoP without ever doing the 14 hit combo, but then you'd miss out on the awesome finishing animation.

So I for one will not buy a game released in 2009 that does not have trophy support. And I do believe I'm not alone in that.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

Namco is messed, I was pissed Afro Samurai didn't have em.

djduke316
djduke316
11 years ago

Same here!

convergecrew
convergecrew
11 years ago

Games without trophy support feel a little "incomplete" nowadays. But Shellshock not having trophies shouldnt really affect anyone.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

No doubt, I hadn't even heard of it.

Riku994
Riku994
11 years ago

So this means Guitar Hero Metallica might not have trophies? LAME!

convergecrew
convergecrew
11 years ago

It does! The trophy list for the game just made some sites. The trophy icons are awesome.

Knightedrik
Knightedrik
11 years ago

It has already been posted that GH: Metallica WILL have trophies. Surf the net…

dveisalive
dveisalive
11 years ago

So far i have 84 trophies level 4 ? Anyways what can the trophies do in the end? I love collecting them for they extend the replay value of games that you waste 60 dollars on, and I just wonder how does a game doesn't support them now, when its mandatory!

Zorigo
Zorigo
11 years ago

trohpies sit there and look nice. achievements sit there and also come with points to get DLC with instead of paying for it. yeah, so achievements are slightly better. that's why i don't chase for trophies, there just a bonus.

Robochic
Robochic
11 years ago

Trophies are nice to have, i agree with tankerkevo if i get stuck i can see who has the game i have and ask for help
@riku994-I hope GH metallica does, thats what makes to me the gh games fun getting the trophies. Lets cross our fingers.

Victor321
Victor321
11 years ago

i dont buy games based on trophies, so idm if it doesnt have any. if it does, then i go crazy on them!

Im currently; Level 5, 23% with 120+ trophies ^.^

on a sidenote, if this is how the trophy system works, then how does the achievements system works? is it similar or is it entirely different.
thx to anyone who answers this, i want to kno for knowledge's sake.


Last edited by Victor321 on 2/18/2009 3:02:55 PM

Zorigo
Zorigo
11 years ago

one i agree, trophies are an added bonus.
two, achivements work in the way that is similar to trohpies you earn them. however, you get points for those which can be used to get DLC. not the case in the psn. which is damned annoying.

Victor321
Victor321
11 years ago

Are you serious? I didnt kno ach. get u DLC? Either a very clever move from MS or MS being desperate to get everything exclusive to them.

Or sony doesnt know this, or they do kno they just dont do it.


Last edited by Victor321 on 2/18/2009 6:54:42 PM

Zorigo
Zorigo
11 years ago

well i hadn't noticed, but thanks for clearing things up. the true mandatory trophy in every game won't be long now.

HANZ64
HANZ64
11 years ago

Well if you have finished off a game at 100%, and go around boasting, there is a chance that some people won't believe you without any proof. Trophies basically act as a proof that you have indeed finished the game off.