Who says free doesn't matter?

According to new statistics announced yesterday at the Consumer Electronics Show, about 85% of PlayStation 3 gamers are online, in direct comparison to about 60% of Xbox 360 owners. Kaz Hirai revealed that there are about 17 million active PlayStation Network accounts, with over 330 million pieces of content downloaded thus far. Even better, approximately 2.1 million new users just signed up in the last month. Now, Microsoft says they too have about 17 million active Live accounts, but there are many more 360s out there; they estimate they've sold about 28 million consoles to date. We're still waiting to see what Sony's latest hardware numbers are, but sales were up 130% over the holidays . The last time we compared them, the 360 was at about 25 million and the PS3 was sitting somewhere around 17 million. Obviously, if 85% of users are online and that's 17 million now…well, you do the math. I hate math. That means the total ownership is like…what…20 million? I dunno. Forget the calculator; I'll just guess.

Perhaps these numbers don't matter so much, though. Anything that's free is always far more attractive, even if you're not going to use it. Let's face it, people will take random pieces of Styrofoam if it's free. But then again, that 330 million pieces of content downloaded is quite important; at least it proves that people really are utilizing the PlayStation Store. So, just keep it up, PS3 owners!

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Anonymous
Anonymous
11 years ago

Dash of Doritos got over a million downloads in December. And its one of the worst games you are likely to play.

I'm actually more surprised it was so little, now that I think about it.

Aftab
Aftab
11 years ago

Enough with the Eeyore-esque comments, already.

ps92117
ps92117
11 years ago

more people to play with lol. was the ps3 outselling 360 pre price drop , like the 3 months leading to the price drop? i don't know just asking

Anonymous
Anonymous
11 years ago

Thats a hard one to say. Having just the NPD to base it on means ignoring anything outside of America.

By the way, what month was the 360 price drop? I can't even remember.

August:
* NDS – 518,300
* Wii – 453,000
* PS3 – 185,400
* X360 – 195,200
* PSP – 253,000
* PS2 – 144,100

September:
* Wii – 667,000
* Nintendo DS – 536,800
* Xbox 360 – 347,200
* PlayStation 3 232,400
* PSP – 238,100
* PlayStation 2 – 173,500

October:
* Wii – 803,000
* Nintendo DS – 491,000
* Xbox 360 – 371,000
* PlayStation 3 – 190,000
* PSP – 193,000
* PlayStation 2 – 136,000

November:
* Wii – 2,040,000
* Nintendo DS – 1,570,000
* Xbox 360 – 836,000*
* PSP – 421,000
* Playstation 3 – 378,000
* Playstation 2 – 206,000

* I think its safe to say thats the price drop in action.


Last edited by n/a on 1/8/2009 10:33:35 PM

SHADOW
SHADOW
11 years ago

If I remember correctly PS3 sold more according to NPD every month from January to June. After that 360 has led.

Dingodial
Dingodial
11 years ago

Looks like the free network has gained some popularity. I just hope some day PS3 will take over the PS2's throne (in general, but not just in online play)

Deathstriker
Deathstriker
11 years ago

Well dude with Sony considering a 10 year run. Look at the hardware sale's now?? Lol if they go for 10 years a PS3 with it's advancedment if it stays at the one grade higher then the latest PC on the market. I do believe the ps3 will take the ps2's throne…

and maybe exceed it…plus I don't know about yall, but when I was on the ps2 it kinda sucked until online came, plus if I remember correctly thats when thing's started to heat up between xbox n ps2…

So free play…plus plug n play?? If sony just makes updating so much faster and not as often then I have my insurance on the ps3…

Anonymous
Anonymous
11 years ago

It doesn't matter if Sony considers a 10 year plan. Its what the customer plans.

Scarecrow
Scarecrow
11 years ago

Heh, I still don't know how Microsoft justifies that we pay for online lol

Anonymous
Anonymous
11 years ago

Honestly, neither do I. Good thing for me I prefer single player games, or split screen gaming when it comes to it.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

I seriously hate Math too.

Aftab
Aftab
11 years ago

But, Ben doesn't hate it, obviously. 17/20 is 85%, and it is a well known fact that math-phobes are allergic to fractions.

giant123
giant123
11 years ago

so does the rest of the world
even us that are good at it


Last edited by giant123 on 1/9/2009 3:00:26 PM

Dingodial
Dingodial
11 years ago

@ Aftab
You don't have to like math to be good at it.

Aftab
Aftab
11 years ago

True, but I didn't say he liked it, either.

SHADOW
SHADOW
11 years ago

Sorry guys but this number is probably bogus. I know I and many others have multiple accounts. I've created a total of six different ones for various reasons. All but one would have to be considered "active". It also ignores multiple users using one machine. My friend has a PS3 and there are accounts for him, his father, and his brother. Live prevents multiple users from using the service without paying multiple times. (IE: each account requires a Live payment).

This is Sony giving true facts but a bogus conclusion. The numbers are much closer to being the same.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
11 years ago

You be right Homeslice.

Phoelix
Phoelix
11 years ago

As karneli III brings up, not every Xbox is actually working. How many boxes that have been sold have bricked? There are plenty of Live accounts that have gone through several machines, so Microsoft's number is bogus, too. If they determine online rate by taking Live accounts divided by consoles sold, then 60% is too high for them.

So I guess both numbers are bogus.

ec0li
ec0li
11 years ago

@Phoelix

You've got your numbers wrong. If there are actually less 360s because of RROD then that means the percentage of users are higher than 60%. Dividing into less will provide a higher number. We know that both Msft and Sony spruce up their numbers but it's besides the the point.

karneli lll
karneli lll
11 years ago

now if only someone would give us the percentage of the 28 million 360's that are actually working

Aftab
Aftab
11 years ago

Lol!

ec0li
ec0li
11 years ago

Ha! That's hard to say. Remember, they work then they don't work, then they work again, then don't work again. You'll be going around in circles trying to figure that out. Oh shiznit, I just figured why it's called the 360.

giant123
giant123
11 years ago

1/3?
idk i think the rrod has officaly died out…
which is good to the 360 elite sitting next to my ps3

karneli lll
karneli lll
11 years ago

giant123, you seem to be in denial,there was an article in october (I think) about elites getting the rrod.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
11 years ago

On that topic of multiple accounts, how many Silver Live accounts do you think people have? I know someone who didn't want to ever pay, so signed up for the first free month of Gold over and over using a different name. So multiple accounts isn't PSN-centric.


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 1/8/2009 11:54:24 PM

Aftab
Aftab
11 years ago

Ya hear that, Shadow?

Dealnightfire
Dealnightfire
11 years ago

Yeah my roommate has multiple 360 accounts. His first one is gold and when that RROD he got an Elite in the mean time and had a gold account on that one as well. He kept up two gold accounts for about two years but now he has both as active silvers.

SHADOW
SHADOW
11 years ago

Alright I'll give you that one. In my experience however the multiple account thing is much more prolific on PS3 as opposed to 360. Hell it's almost encouraged considering you can access any region's PS Store with the correct account. But I digress.

Both numbers are bogus, useless thing to "reveal."

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
11 years ago

Not necessarily useless, as Microsoft loves to say how "nobody" goes online with the PSN, as if we're still in the PS2 days. Also, they continually hype Live as the superior service (which I no longer believe), and it's obvious that if it were free, many MORE people would be on there.

In other words, it seems like Sony did this right and MS are the bad guys for charging.

N a S a H
N a S a H
11 years ago

I have both 360 and PS3 but I prefer XBL.

It just is better(Service, Hardly ever lag, more competitions online). However, if I'm buying a game which I won't be playing online or rarely will play online (Guitar Hero, Rock Band etc) then I buy it for PS3.

I prefer PS3 overall but Live is superior IMO

BeezleDrop
BeezleDrop
11 years ago

My goodness, children and the elderly can't get enough of those "wii" thing's I see everywhere.

Wage SLAVES
Wage SLAVES
11 years ago

Not only is free good the PSN is actually Original. It has its very own vibe. Its a warm feeling on the PSN…I love it. And I don't know about the X360 in general but on my short experience (about a 12 hr Halo/Gears1 spree) there was a lot of racist arguments going on. Im totally against Racism and that killed LIVE in my opinion. I have yet to run into a Nazi or any other supremacist (though Im sure they're out there. I just can't stand that stuff. We are basically clones with just enough variation to make reproduction possible that is a fact.

Arvis
Arvis
11 years ago

I encountered one racist in a game of Warhawk once… I played a lot of Warhawk.

-Arvis

ps92117
ps92117
11 years ago

well shadow i do have multiple account true but i have just resently gotten them having learned of the store thing, so what i am trying to say is PROBABLY not many know about this mainly refering to the average ps3 owner who PROBABLY is not as educated bout the ps3 as much as we are, (but all of this my personal opinion) .who knows maybe sony makes it so easy to get multiple accounts just so they can claim to have a hell lot of psn accounts

Anonymous
Anonymous
11 years ago

Yes, that racist bull on Live seriously pisses me off. I wouldn't mind so much if the Avoid Player actually works as well as it ought. It doesn't always though.


Last edited by n/a on 1/9/2009 2:37:41 PM

Vivi_Gamer
Vivi_Gamer
11 years ago

Not suprised, its free, i wouldnt go online if i had to pay for it.

ps92117
ps92117
11 years ago

That is your opinion? I would, that is my opinion.But why would you post that if you know it is going to get people mad at you?I don't recall reading any of your previous comment but this enough to make me think you are a xbot.

Wage SLAVES
Wage SLAVES
11 years ago

I've been here long enough to say He's not.

ps92117
ps92117
11 years ago

ok say he is not which i belive he is'nt, the comment is still that of a xbot

Anonymous
Anonymous
11 years ago

"I don't recall reading any of your previous comment but this enough to make me think you are a xbot."

Maybe I am missing something here, but are you saying he sounds like an Xbot because: If PSN charged he wouldn't pay?

Troy Powers
Troy Powers
11 years ago

…the winds of change…

Reccaman18
Reccaman18
11 years ago

great song. lol

Deathstriker
Deathstriker
11 years ago

I wasn't on eariler, but sony doesn't count the user accounts. When you turn on your ps3 it creates a credit for that account so even if you made 20,000 it wouldn't change the number's. Plus the number might be off some, but it's in the higher 80's…I even see kids got online for LBP…I was playing with 2 9 year old's and a 8 year old yesterday >:( i was thinking pro…

Jordahn
Jordahn
11 years ago

A free opened network policy that promotes competition. Makes sense.

pavlovic
pavlovic
11 years ago

This month my annual XBL membership ends and I won't be renewing.

360 will be for games without online game or exclusives only.

And for the multi account users, I've got 1 silver, 1 gold XBL and for the PSN 1 USA, 1 Europe and 1 Mexico. So do the math…

Reccaman18
Reccaman18
11 years ago

Dude, you need a Jap account. Their store is overloaded by PSone games. Plus, they sometimes get demos before we do.

Anonymous
Anonymous
11 years ago

"Dude, you need a Jap account. Their store is overloaded by PSone games. Plus, they sometimes get demos before we do."

Wait, good PS1 games? Will have to look into that. Take it from me, the European one is a joke.

pavlovic
pavlovic
11 years ago

pushtrack… you haven't seen the Mexican. We are not able to buy with a credit card, you HAVE to use a PSNCard, only available in 3 Sony Style stores in the country.

kidgrid
kidgrid
11 years ago

I really like both networks, but i cant seem to get myself to shell out the clams for live when psn is getting as good as it is for free? how long before live gets the same price cut the brick got?

JPBooch
JPBooch
11 years ago

VGCharts has total sales as of 1/4/09 at:
PS3 = 19,455,760
360 = 27,370,658.

The price drop for xbox was September.
On 9/7/08 the race was at
PS3 = 15,294,513
360 = 20,789784

So xbox DID widen the gap this christmas by a margin of about 2.4 million. That is pretty significant. The PS3 has to drop the price to start closing this gap. It is no longer the phenomenon of being in the game a year earlier when you jump 2.4 mil in total sales.