Playboy's Miss October, Pamela Horton , says her two favorite games of all time are Chrono Trigger and Earthbound .

…that got your attention, didn't it, hardcore gamers?

But in our chat with the avid gamer and handicraft-maker, we learned that although she loves playing MMOs like League of Legends and World of Warcraft online with friends, she can't play the shooters online, anymore. And why? For the very same reason other female gamers have cited, which unsurprisingly – and sadly – focuses on the rampant immaturity found playing FPSs like Call of Duty online. As Pamela said, she just got sick of "being treated like crap."

"There are of course a lot of stigmas in the gaming community against women who play shooters online. I really lost interest and appreciation [for the genre] because I was treated like crap. I don't play FPSs online now because of that."

That got us talking on the general subject of online behavior and I asked her if she thought the situation might get better. But Pamela doesn't expect the immaturity and abuse to stop any time soon, and she blames it on the anonymous nature of the Internet, and the fact that there are virtually no consequences. You'll likely be inclined to agree.

"There's anonymity behind a gamertag; nobody knows who you are or what your situation is, so you can just say what you want and there are no repercussions. There really aren't any police officers online so you can get away with anything; you can hide behind that anonymity. People are going to use that to just troll or get a rise out of someone. There's a certain arrogance with people playing online FPSs and I want to avoid the whole thing. It can be very stressful. "

Pamela is also a fan of campaigns and can't understand why people buy a game only for the multiplayer. She mentioned the fact that almost all the available downloadable content and pre-order bonuses for games these days are multiplayer-oriented and she wonders why…and you just gotta love her for saying that.

Stay tuned for the full interview coming later this week. And yes, she did answer a couple reader questions. 🙂

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Clamedeus
Clamedeus
8 years ago

That's why I love the mute button while playing Online. Great invention. 😛

WolfCrimson
WolfCrimson
8 years ago

I use that button every time in Uncharted 3 online.

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
8 years ago

Haha, And I don't blame you for using it either.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

Ah so I was right she does like a little JRPG action. As far as the online FPS thing goes, welcome to the club Pam. Even those of us who aren't among the verbally abused can't stand it either, though she might find that if she switches to Playstation things aren't as nasty.

Underdog15
Underdog15
8 years ago

I have played much CoD online via PS3. There are lots of nice people, but the immaturity is rampant there, too.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

I'm disappointed in you Underdog.

Underdog15
Underdog15
8 years ago

Me too! But a bro's gotta do what a bro's gotta do.

Zeronoz
Zeronoz
8 years ago

Once when I was playing BFBC2 online, a guy texted me (Via PSN) swearing, cursing, calling me names just because I was camping (Mind you, we were playing Conquest and I was capturing the flag)

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

It's still not as bad, and the article never says she played CoD just "FPS like CoD".

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

Call of Duty does not represent the typical FPS multiplayer experience. I mean come on, the franchise is known for having an immature online environment so I'm not sure what she was expecting when she decided to play it.

Go play Tribes, TF2, CSS, and BF3 if you want a great online experience.

Bevel
Bevel
8 years ago

I was going to say the same thing. There will always be immature scrubs in online games however, the more complex a shooter is the less of those hooligans there are.

Maeldun
Maeldun
8 years ago

Lol boo fuckin hoo, welcome to gaming.

tes37
tes37
8 years ago

For some reason your comment makes me think of ghosts having sex with owls… maybe it's just an October thing.

La_Bete12
La_Bete12
8 years ago

^^^ Oh God that's a nasty image. O.o

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

…and maybe that's why she's not a big fan of going online.

cLoudou
cLoudou
8 years ago

Your comment proves her point

Underdog15
Underdog15
8 years ago

lol… Ben should just put up Maeldun's name and avatar for this article's picture for relevance.

Except then we'd have lost readership…

Mog
Mog
8 years ago

Your comment has actually angered me.

(╯°益°)╯︵ ┻━┻

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

(╯°益°)╯︵ ┻━┻

^wtf is that?


Last edited by LimitedVertigo on 10/9/2012 5:52:33 AM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

That's Japanese for "Go F yourself"

daus26
daus26
8 years ago

I can understand, but really, people should be stronger within themselves in not letting people, especially random strangers, change who you are or what you like to do. Perhaps, she never really got into fps anyway, cause I know for sure, if someone talks crap to me in GT5 online, I aint gonna quit playing it.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

I wouldn't, either. But women are different (that isn't sexism talking; it's just true), and I don't think ANY guys get the same amount of relentless sh** women get when playing online.

Underdog15
Underdog15
8 years ago

Yeah… I would not play CoD at all if I wasn't playing with friends. And I never do play on my own, either. I can mute a-holes no problem because I still have someone to talk to. But if you can't talk to ANYONE because of the abuse… I'd lose interest too.

Also, it's not about "taking it" or "having a backbone". It's about straight up enjoyment. And if she gets far more satisfaction from playing other games and MMO's than from playing CoD while taking abuse… it's sort of a no-brainer. Not a "backbone" issue.

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

Seriously, Ben and Daus?
It's impossible for me not to become bothered by jerks (does that make me more female, Ben? :D) and I really can't see how you guys are able to just ignore it.

For me it completely ruins the joy of a game if a jerk or three are sitting there behaving like shit. It spoils the game for me, I always log off and find another session.


Last edited by Beamboom on 10/9/2012 1:39:42 AM

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

I'd love for her to list what games she has played when she experienced this type of behavior. In the nearly 20years of online FPS playing I've never witnessed any type of behavior that would justify her reasoning.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

LV you play on PC, that's why.

kraygen
kraygen
8 years ago

I'm a guy and I can honestly say that I rarely play online due to the incessant vile language that is used. Some people use foul language, fine, but there are words in the English language that are not 4 letters, but some people online don't seem to know that.

La_Bete12
La_Bete12
8 years ago

Wow, she's extremely beautiful. I know it's a little off topic, but she actually looks genuinely pretty. I'm not usually a big fan of the Playboy chicks (they're too artificial for me) but she looks quite beautiful.

Ok, back on topic, I agree that online gaming has just lost a lot of credibility. I just wish people would just have respect nowadays.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
8 years ago

Could of been that she was on the 360, I heard their is a lot of whining brats who never want to stop.


Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 10/8/2012 11:45:38 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

She calls it a "Gamertag" so that right there tells you 360.

AcHiLLiA
AcHiLLiA
8 years ago

haha, I typed gamertag but I backspaced it before the edit, silly me.

ulsterscot
ulsterscot
8 years ago

There is a lot of immaturity and sexism with online COD – and thats just the 40+ year olds I play with!

Underdog15
Underdog15
8 years ago

Interesting note… last night on CoD, some kids (could tell by voice) were trying to make fun of us because of our clan title. (It said Vote Obama with a Canadian flag in the background. We thought it was hilarious since we're Canadians. We regularly get southern state folk really mad we wouldn't vote Romney… Apparently the Canadian flag part is lost on people. We can't vote either way! lol)

Anyways, back to my point… we just chuckled and told them they weren't old enough to vote anyways so don't worry about it. Their "insult" was to say, "You guys are just 45 year old losers playing a video game. Grow up."

You and I, of course, know the ignorance in that comment, but we just laughed about it. Dunno why I told that lame story… just cause you mentioned you guys were in your 40's, I guess. lol

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
8 years ago

Underdog15,

Nothing personal, but with that clan-tag, I'm sure glad as hell that your clan can't vote here.

That f*cking tyrannical self-agenda Poser-In Chief douchenozzle has to go.

And if the majority of our congress & liberal judges weren't the sorry-assed f*cking wimps that they've proven to be with Obummer, they should've already charged that scumbag with crimes of treason against America & our Constitution.

I want to see his lying, spending $3 million to hide all traces of his past, non-transparent, a$$ sent to Guantanamo Bay Prison for life, where all his other caught terrorist lovers are at, and with no pardon ever doled out for him.

And hopefully all this will come true after January 20th once we've kicked out this America-hating squatter in the White House.

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

Uhm… Wow.

Bonampak
Bonampak
8 years ago

@BikerSaint – Holy cow… nothing personal alright! :p

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

Saint,

Underdog has always been a gentlemen on here and one of the "good guys". I do think you're a little out of line going off on him when all he was doing was giving us a funny story.

…and I'm voting for Romney.

Underdog15
Underdog15
8 years ago

Well our one friend in Cincinnati can vote, but I have no idea what he thinks. I don't pretend to know much about America politically. We are just being funny. Lol and we always get the rise we're looking for. I did watch the first debate though. Both guys seemed like poor choices to me. Lol. Lose-lose. Obama was super passive, and Romney just made shit up. Like, he didn't even know the real facts. And i do remember him thinking the average middle class income was around 200k. You guys sound like you're in a real pickle. That's how it looks to an outsider like me who really is neutral.

Canada's no better off though. The only guy who would have been worth voting for, IMO, died of cancer last year.


Last edited by Underdog15 on 10/9/2012 8:57:13 AM

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
8 years ago

LV,
At no time was my rant aimed at Underdog at all, as I have much respect for him through his always-solid postings.

I just wanted to let him know of my feelings(and not just mine, although the liberal lamestream media in his hip pocket will never let on to it) towards the Abomination who's been defrauding America.

Underedog,
I hope you don't think I was pissed at you, my rant was directed towards that Obamanation of a poser only.

Underdog15
Underdog15
8 years ago

No worries biker. I figured it wasn't at me. Lol @ obamanation.

Fat
Fat
8 years ago

Being a 47 year old, I find it more fun to squad up and play with 30-50year olds. COD has way too many little snot nosed, racist, foul mouthed turds who shouldn't even be playing it. Battlefield has fewer of them, but still they are obnoxious.

Jed
Jed
8 years ago

@FAT

Im 26 and I think I'd rather play online with 30-50 year olds than most people my age or younger.


Last edited by Jed on 10/9/2012 3:37:38 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

Romney says the unemployed are parasites. You shouldn't let him get away with that Saint.

tes37
tes37
8 years ago

We're basically given two clowns with the same agenda, they just claim to be left and right. That's why you see the will of the people ignored no matter which side you vote for.

Underdog15
Underdog15
8 years ago

As an outsider, I have absolutely no idea in the world what Obama has done well or poorly. Or at least very little. (I don't know if the US' version of health care is any good or not, now, but with our country having gone through similar arguments in the 70's, I can say now that it was a necessary step for us here in Canada now that we have the benefit of hindsight. I asked my dad about it, who's a doctor, and he said you can't really compare because Obamacare is nothing like our system here or England. Ours is similar to England's, fyi to my English brethren!)

But yeah, no idea how well or bad Obama did, except that he kicked Osama's a$$, which I guess is a good thing. But one thing the world outside the US has noticed… Romney makes sh!t up, and he clearly believes in part truths making up the whole of truth that he wants to believe. If Obama was as bad as you say, (and I'm not saying he wasn't cause I -GENUINELY- have no idea) then you guys are totally screwed either way… no offense meant at all, btw. Just an observation. I hadn't heard that part World brought up, but if it's true, it just further confirms what I thought of Romney over the past bit.

Sounds like you guys are caught between a rock and a hard place… and I genuinely feel badly that you guys have to choose between 2 extremes with no third party to even everyone out a little. (You guys could really use another political party…)

We have our issues too, though. The Bloc Quebecois, for example, really screw up our electorial processes effectively wasting dozens of seats that could be used by whoever is in power or by opposition. Plus they're butthurt over French not being the language of choice in North America and want to separate Quebec from the rest of the country… *le sigh*

@Tes
That was more or less my impression, although not quite that extreme. lol. Investing in home-grown products will save you faster than big business outsourcing overseas will, though…. And here in Canada, we know the US has been giving bonuses for bringing manufacturing back to the US… because what used to be made in Canada for the US has been moving back there… and losing jobs for us and creating them there. lol… jerks! (lol jk jk)

Just look up Caterpillar moving from London, Ontario to the US… there will be lots of articles on the internet. Pretty shotty business though… the Canadians were paid $33/hr plus, but when they moved to US, they moved to a high unemployment area and only pay $14-$15 to Americans for the same work… So lets not pretend the big businesses will actually do the "right" big brother thing.

Ford moved a major plant in St. Thomas, Ontario to the US as well. Those two plants alone lost 10's of thousands of jobs here and created them there, but they pay you guys half as much… good for unemployment rates… but still not all that ethical…

Sorry for the long post…. lol… it was short, but constant edits grew it up…


Last edited by Underdog15 on 10/9/2012 4:21:09 PM

tes37
tes37
8 years ago

Underdog,

Obamacare is a joke. The absolute worst part about it is, everyone is going to be forced to buy it. You can't buy it, without also getting a medical chip implant. No thanks, I'm not being branded like cattle.


Last edited by tes37 on 10/9/2012 4:30:08 PM

Underdog15
Underdog15
8 years ago

Woh, seriously? Or is the branding thing a joke? And do you have to actually pay for it then? Or do you mean "pay" as in via taxes? I don't know anything about it. All I know, as my dad mentioned, was that it's nothing like what we have here and can't be compared really. We aren't branded. We just have a provincial health card. Some provinces have really pretty ones too. lol It's basically the same idea as a driver's license. Actually, it's exactly the same. And it counts as "government issued ID", like a Driver's License, too.

But we don't have to pay for it… that's not what I'd call "public health care"… and yes. that does sound like a joke. We have to pay extra and privately for coverage for drug plans, dental, vision, eventual home care, etc. etc. etc… For us, "public health care" means any Canadian citizen could have a heart attack, get rushed to hospital, get their life saved, and only have to pay a $45 bill later for the ambulance ride.

But we still need private plans. I get mine through work as an added benefit, and it includes all my "dependents". What's free are immuniazations (booster, typhoid, Hep B, mumps, flu shots, etc.) except for anything you would only need when going abroad, emergency health care is free, having a family doctor is free, etc. You can pay more for premium services… for example, we could have paid $400 a night after our baby was born to have a private room. For free we had a 2 bed room with another mother across the way. If I injure my knee in a sport, the scan is free… if I get a concussion, same deal. I get a brain tumor? Surgery is free.

The downside is that the costs are managed via wait times. (6 month wait for a colonoscopy, for example.) Drugs are only partially covered. If absolutely necessary, the gov. helps a lot, but not nearly all of it. For unnecessary stuff, they don't help. For example, when I was a teen, I had wicked bad acne. Not necessary to get rid of it, but my parents extended health care they paid for privately covered the cost of my accutane. And if the wait times are too long for our rich people, they just front the money themselves and go to the states to get it done. LOL

It's great because no one has to go without life saving surgery, have a stroke, get deathly ill, and then worry about whether or not they can even pay to save their own life. And it's equal for everyone. Emergency centers can help you NOW and worry about paperwork afterwards. I think our quality of health care is great because of it.

But the way you describe it…

That totally sounds like a joke.


Last edited by Underdog15 on 10/9/2012 7:26:32 PM

tes37
tes37
8 years ago

There are debunkers and people claiming it's a hoax. But I read the bill over a year ago. In straightforward language it talked about an implantable chip for access to a medical database that stores patient information.

The law that was passed is approx. 30 pages shorter, but a provision is still in it to allow for such devices, just worded a little more discreetly.

The people claiming it's a hoax showed up right before they started airing commercials in America trying to convince you to chip your grandpa because he has alzheimer's disease. Funny thing, I don't see any debunkers coming on tv telling me that I didn't actually see what I just saw.

They plan to penalize you on your taxes for non compliance with the law if you refuse to buy the health plan they provide. Nobody in the government is required to have this, in fact they have the best healthcare money can buy.


Last edited by tes37 on 10/9/2012 7:36:27 PM

Jed
Jed
8 years ago

I don't know enough about Romney to say I like him or not. But I do know enough about Obama to say he should not be our president. His pipe dream of "hope" and "change" we're a load of crap. Now we can only HOPE to CHANGE who runs our country.

Romney was right about Obamacare. It was forced through congress by Obama and Pelosi before anybody really even knew what it was. Then they even had to change it and write in loopholes so the liberal Chief Justice who already wanted it implemented could say it was legal. The public had no choice in the matter.

kokoro
kokoro
8 years ago

@underdog

Canadian health care sounds a lot like what we have here in Australia.