When the revamped Dante for Ninja Theory's DMC – a Devil May Cry reboot – was unveiled, the fans sorta lost it.

They just didn't like the younger, heroine-addict-looking hero, who seemed more like a bratty, cocky punk than a cool, confident bad-ass. This resulted in quite the backlash, perhaps culminating in Ninja Theory developers receiving death threats…which is way beyond the limits of a rational protest.

But the studio first reminded everyone that it had been Capcom's idea to remake the popular hero for a Western audience, and the publisher approved the developer's new design. Ninja Theory also kept telling fans to "wait until they play it," or at least see some gameplay. And now that we've seen lots of footage, the bitterness seems to have abated and the majority are more excited than annoyed.

In speaking to VG24/7 , Capcom US producer Alex Jones talked about the fans calming down:

Yeah, now it’s fine, but I could have done without having to fear for my life [laughs]. There was always going to be people who saw new Dante and who didn’t want it, and that’s fine. We understand – I understand – that people are passionate about it, so this isn’t a bad thing.

Being angry about it – yeah I get that – but we always said, ‘when you see the game and you play it, trust me, you’re going to understand that we were doing the right thing’. Now that’s happening, so yeah it’s vindication, but it’s not like smugly sitting back and going ‘ha ha’.

It’s more like, ‘We understand why you guys had doubts, and we knew that we had to prove this to you, and we were happy to do it.’ That was our responsibility."

Yeah, I didn't like Dante's new look, either, but the gameplay does appear to be downright awesome. And in the end, isn't that what our gaming entertainment is all about?

Related Game(s): DMC

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PoopsMcGee
PoopsMcGee
8 years ago

I don't care for the new look but I'm probably not going to buy this regardless. I hate the direction they took this series in after the first one.


Last edited by PoopsMcGee on 8/25/2012 10:31:01 AM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

Then doesn't it follow that this all-new direction could recapture your attention? Just sayin'

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

I don't see how DMC3 is that much of a departure from the original. It was vastly superior in most ways. DMC2 was mediocre but still.

PoopsMcGee
PoopsMcGee
8 years ago

I don't know maybe you're right but I LOVED the first one at the time and then couldn't get into any of the following entries.

Maybe I should get the HD collection and give it another chance, it was a while ago…

BikerSaint
BikerSaint
8 years ago

PoopMagee,

Just an FYI,
If you want it, the "Devil May Cry Collection" is only $22.02 TODAY at Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005VBVQDI/ref=asc_df_B005VBVQDI2152832?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=pg-1610-04-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395097&creativeASIN=B005VBVQDI

xenris
xenris
8 years ago

DMC3 was my favourite. So so so so challenging, I loved it. DMC1 was pretty great although I don't remember much about it as me and two friends took turns and only rented it.

I think this one looks pretty decent. I just hope they have a good variety of weapons…and amongst those, fist weapons. I loved the gauntlets in DMC3


Last edited by xenris on 8/25/2012 4:43:14 PM

PoopsMcGee
PoopsMcGee
8 years ago

Thanks BikerSaint! I think I might as well hit that up and give this series another chance!

My memory is kinda cloudy but I just remember feeling claustrophobic in DMC3, whereas in the original I remember salivating at the crisp vistas and it seemed to have a tad more exploration.

oONewcloudOo
oONewcloudOo
8 years ago

If you look at the first trailer for the new DMC Dante looks different as if he went through a small redesign, he looks less like a anorexic drug addicted and more like a teenager now

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

Definitely, they also changed his hair a little so it wasn't exactly the same as Ninja Theory's boss Tameem Antionidas.


Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 8/25/2012 10:39:58 AM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

Here's the thing, games are a creative medium. Remember creativity with characters? I know the die-hard fans would disagree but I think after DMC4 it probably was time for a reboot since most franchises stagnate after the 4th entry.

Also it was a good idea for them to reveal the new Dante long before the release of the game. It gives the horde plenty of time to calm down. If they showed the new guy and then released the game a few months later it wouldn't sell too well.

oONewcloudOo
oONewcloudOo
8 years ago

I agree, DMC as a franchise was going nowhere and so was the story

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

"Most franchises stagnate after the 4th entry"?
Now that was an interesting claim! Do you have examples?


Last edited by Beamboom on 8/25/2012 11:09:00 AM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

To an extent this is of course my opinion but I'd say Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Halo, Motorstorm, Prince of Persia, Duke Nukem, Call of Duty, Soul Calibur, Mortal Kombat, Castlevania fell apart then Symphony was good then it fell apart again until the recent reboot, Wolfenstein.

I'd argue God of War and Metal Gear are on the same path.

Ydobon
Ydobon
8 years ago

@World

you should totally write a detailed article on that. I think your going somewhere and it sounds interesting!!!

Killa Tequilla
Killa Tequilla
8 years ago

Here we go…

DIsmael85
DIsmael85
8 years ago

Hahaha I don't know if "all" DMC fans are happy, but I guess there is some folks willing to give it a shot. Folks I know and myself though are not going to give this game a shot. I'll wait for Ninja Theory's next "original" title. Love their stories.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

What if it reviews really well and you can find it cheap later?

DIsmael85
DIsmael85
8 years ago

It could be given to me for free and I'd still not play it. Don't care for NT's vision of the game. Now if we got another Enslaved or Heavenly Sword I'd play that. 🙂

ART359
ART359
8 years ago

I have never played a Devil May Cry game. So I don't truly know how the fans of the original may have felt at first. I will say however, that I've been following the new reboot and am totally interested in it. I will totally pre-order this as soon as a Collector Edition is announced! 🙂

Temjin001
Temjin001
8 years ago

Im not the biggest DMC fan. I'm not much for spazzing out combos in mid-air seemingly endlessly, or having an "infinite" number of ways to attack (that tells me a lot actually about the game play design). But I have played through DMC, DMC2, including some of DMC3 and 4.

As far as I can tell this just looks better than anything I've seen DMC do in the past. Also, the art direction is extremely strong, may even get "best artistic design" for next year.

I'm thinking it'll be ninja Theory's best game yet.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

I don't know why I just love doing mid-air stuff, even in God of War I like to launch the enemy a lot before entering into combos.

Temjin001
Temjin001
8 years ago

I have different memories I'm sure. I really disliked how MvsC2 started stealing the show in the arcades, drawing in fighting fans from other franchises. It fundamentally changed the process of a fight. It annoyed me to get hit by some quick low attack, then launched, and watch my guy be on the receiving end of a massive spastic combo as I sat there just waiting for the actual fight to continue. It's like mixing guitar hero with fighting games, just not my thing.
but all of this is ultimately to be more deadly. more capable of killing your opponent who may be just as deadly.

but the purpose of juggles in DMC and Bayonetta are less focused on this.
DMC and Bayonetta are alike in that tons of moves are dropped in a melting pot of abilities. They're dropped in there not necessarily to tactically be more effective, but to vary your onslaught to multiply out a Style meter that nets you more points, or orbs, or rings, or whatever. It's a different focus.

I suppose this just concerns those who really "get into" the game play. If you're just mashing buttons to see the show and have fun with easy stimuli, it can be great. That's probably how I'll approach DmC =)


Last edited by Temjin001 on 8/25/2012 6:50:02 PM

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

Me too, I play so many games now I just can't invest tons of time into learning all the moves and chaining them perfectly. That was okay when I played the same games for years but I just wanna do badass things that make me smile now.

CrusaderForever
CrusaderForever
8 years ago

Embarrassingly I have only played through half of DMC4 which I thought was very cool. So I am guessing I would totally love the HD collection then.

I know it's tough to change the appearance of a major character and it's been done to literal death in movies. For instance a black Kingpin in Daredevil, black Nick Fury and a white Terry Fitzgerald in Spawn. But if you can look past it I think NT is going to nail this one. Both HS and EOTTW were very, very good games. Their stories were very cool and enthralling.

Ninja_WafflesXD
Ninja_WafflesXD
8 years ago

I think I'm still on the fence about this game. DMC was is one of my favourite franchises, but I still don't quite know what to make of this new direction…

Yeah, the art direction is awesome and I know that Ninja Theory are excellent story-tellers, but…
What I've heard of the soundtrack, I don't really like and while the gameplay looks pretty cool, until I know for myself how it plays, I'll still hold on to my skepticism.

I appreciate what Ninja Theory is doing, but their games aren't exactly known for their awesome, in-depth gameplay…which I believe was always the heart and soul of DMC.

Probably won't be a day-1 purchase, as I haven't been fully convinced, but I'll get it eventually.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

The gameplay issue came up already, NT commented that they were addressing it by working closely with Capcom on the battle and combo system so they can live up to the expectations people have for DmC's action.

Lawless SXE
Lawless SXE
8 years ago

Makes perfect sense. Some of the gameplay aspects have changed (I maintain that the way that the angelic/demonic weapons are supposedly set up reminds me of Heavenly Sword's original combat system) and some of the background story has changed, but the spirit of DMC is still very much present, even with the reduction to 30FPS.

I'm getting it, but I wouldn't call myself a DMC die-hard. More an NT die-hard 🙂

___________
___________
8 years ago

gotta love it how crapcom waves the white flag after sticking their finger in the lamp socket.
ok you knew the sh*t would hit the fan, so why did you do it?
i REALLY cant understand these guys!
i mean $E i can put up with because they refuse to understand what their doing to their franchises!
but crapcom comes out and in plain daylight admits to it, yet they keep doing it!
i dont get it, they want to go bankrupt do they?
or are they really that naive and stupid that they believe these actions will bring in more newer fans that will outweigh the old pissed off ones?

DrRockso87
DrRockso87
8 years ago

I'm still not sold. Not because of the look. I can live without that. But because I think the gameplay looks a little… sluggish.

Doesn't look bad though. Just not as good as Devil May Cry 3, 4, or Bayonetta. 30fps on the Unreal Engine really ruined it for me.

Still, could be fun. I'll rent it someday.