Ben-DutkaJust go with me on this.
Firstly, I've always believed Treyarch has put a little extra something into their Call of Duty campaigns, at least in direct comparison to Infinity Ward. World at War and Black Ops both had very enjoyable single-player adventures in my mind, and despite the PR and pub the "No Russian" sequence got in MW2, I still say Treyarch excels in the campaign area.
Secondly, the concepts, themes, and topics that will apparently be tackled in Black Ops II are pretty freakin' massive. If you read up on what we know thus far, it seems like the developers are really pushing to deliver a well-paced and surprisingly in-depth plot. On top of which, if you examine the trailers and snippets of gameplay we've seen, it also seems clear that a wide variety of mechanics will play a role in that campaign. If you factor in the diverse locations as well, you're looking at something that couldn't possibly be finished in only four or five hours…right? Ten seems more reasonable.
Thirdly and lastly, I really do believe those who enjoy single-player experiences have made their voices heard. For the most part, they've been drowned out by the legions of multiplayer fanatics who only play CoD for one reason, and that's perfectly fine, considering multiplayer is indeed the franchise's bread and butter. But I know some gamers were unimpressed with the MW3 campaign and I believe the disappointed were even more vocal this time around. Activision may not have cared to listen but I bet some of the guys at Treyarch noticed, especially because they do pride themselves on the campaigns they produce.
Oh, and of course, Activision is dumping a ton of money into the new production. And money can buy talent; they've got "The Dark Knight Rises" co-writer David S. Goyer and composer Trent Reznor, for instance, and you can expect more big names to come to light as the year progresses. I will say that an old engine can still hold Treyarch back but as I've said in the past, they've done some pretty amazing things with that old clunker.
not sure if srs
I will.
I will… I love the CoD campaigns, all of them, Even if theres not a lot of *story* there. I always play them first before going online. I like the way the developers set up different scenes in the game and you can't find the type of adrenaline pumping action that CoD has, anywhere else. If anything they are a good time.
Kuro; A downvote doesn't usually mean "I don't like you/you suck" (with some exceptions :D).
It's more a sign of who agrees or disagrees with your statement(s). But I understand what you mean, it is a bit confusing these downvotes.
My advice is to not pay much attention to them unless they come in bulks.
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I used to care when people downvoted me, but then I threw it on the ground. !@#% the system.
I seem to get downvotes no matter what I write…
(Yeah, I know I'm asking for it this time :P)
Downvotes mean nothing and are fickle thing. Upvotes are all that matter, really.
Take me for instance. I just upvoted and downvoted willy-nilly! I upvoted Zen and down voted Beam for absolutely NO good reason!
See? Totally unimportant. 🙂
Down votes are mostly meaningless. Lurkers, previously banned morons, those too lazy to type anything and would rather hit a button, etc.
Just ignore it.
"..but will anyone play it?" mostly everybody play's COD, the make the most money off this franchise then anybody (hope someday it changes). So that tells u why people here downvoted you. No big deal u have to remember this is the internet, full of pests behind a screen talking a lot of smack or just mouse whore clickers. Okay I went to far, u get the idea.
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@Alex
I think CoD is the most popular game, but I don't think most people play it. The number of copies sold isn't even close to half of the number of systems out there.
"I still say Treyarch excels in the campaign area."
I firmly believe that MP has started the downfall of civilization. I cannot stand MP. The few times that I have played online, it has been a very disheartening experience.
I will definitely play it. I love Treyarch's Single Player Campaigns. I agree with you Ben and actually loved seeing the above statement in type. The character development and storyline of a Treyarch COD campaign is excellent. W@W had the best COD campaign to date but Black Ops wasn't too far behind. I cannot wait to see what they do with this one. D1P!!!!
I firmly believe that MP has started the downfall of civilization. I cannot stand MP. The few times that I have played online, it has been a very disheartening experience.
I understand, but since it's COD people put more time in the multiplayer section.
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Horses. OMG. Teh best CoD evar. Let's just start the death clock right here.
Trent Reznor? Like NIN Trent Reznor, Trent Reznor? Odd. I haven't heard that name since Quake. Quake the first game.
Well, I appreciate any effort to beef'n up the single player stuff. I suppose MS's effort to provide devs with more useable DVD space has something to do with this move. It may be like only 1.5gbs of extra data, but that can go a long way in creating more levels once core assets are in place.
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I thought that extra DVD space experiment fell by the wayside?
Nope, pretty sure the newer games are installing on my 360 HDD as larger files. Larger than 6.8gbs. I think Halo Reach was the first to do it.
I stand corrected then.
I think it's also mildly improved the graphics for multiplats across the board. I think games like Skyrim, Rage, Arkham City, and others ended up looking as good as they had because, in part, there was that much more storage for higher quality texture maps. Older games, like FO3, while generally looked about the same on both systems, texture wise, sometimes the PS3 version ended up sporting higher res texture maps on certain items.
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I really enjoyed Blops and think Treyarch will pull off another good campaign. It seems like they are really trying to put a lot of work into this COD.
I liked the campaign hated the MP.
I loved the MP for Black Ops, absolutely don't like MW3 MP, It's terrible.
Seeing that Zombie mode was such a smash hit for Treyarch I wonder if they'll try to create a zombie level and somehow graft it's purpose into the story.
Kinda reminds me of Suikoden. I go from fighting butt-faced imperials the whole game and building up support for my Liberation army and now here I am saving a town from an evil maniacal vampire lord with zombie cronies. Doesn't make sense but okay! zombies have a free pass for any game these days, even CoD 😉
I seriously doubt the campaign will be any longer than standard, they still have to fit in the MP and zombies.
Alien zombies.. Anyways love Treyarch COD campaign's so I will look into this someday. It will have to be a price drop for me since I'm not big on the multiplayer side of COD.
Gonna be waiting a while for a price drop. Might have to get it used. Activation don't do price drops well for CoD.
used it is, I don't mind.
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Let's hope Treyarch heard all of the "short story" chants & has finally doubled the amount of time for our SP mode campaigns.
I'm don't play fps this gen but maybe now it's a good time for me to start, I used to play counter strike back in the old days. That's a good advertisement from treyarch it got me interested.
Let's hype it up shall we… ::sigh::
Killzone 4 will be so intense, it will take the world offline!!!
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
Every stinking COD MW game that has come out all of you nerds have said, "OMG IT WONT SELL THIS TIME BECAUSE IT SUXZORS!!!"
I have written down everyone's name and copied and pasted their words and will do so until the day it comes out.
Every nay sayer who predicted failer will eat their words.
I SWEAR TO THE PRECIOUS!!!!!
I have tattooed your message across my bum and when CoD fails one day, I will find you and rub your face in it.
WHO'S MORE HARDCORE NOW?!
ethird1,
My guess is that you'll get writers cramp way before you're even done sharpening the 47th box of those #2 lead pencils.
@ethird
really? That's lame. you do realize anyone you copy and paste won't care? I mean, CoD is, right now, huge. And you're threatening to rub it in their face when it's… well… still huge… It could still be huge 3 years from now, or more, or less just as it is still going to be huge 2 minutes from now. But when it fails? Well, there's no timeline. Someday, it will falter and fail. It won't always be huge. Anytime you seek to prove everyone wrong… they'll just say, "wait and see. It will fail." and there is no way you can prove them wrong.
You realize you could wait an eternity and you will never be able to concretely prove your point, right? It could still fail. You've set yourself up for a challenge in which you can only lose. Even if you never lose, you can never win…
That was stupid. :p
@Zen
That's hilarious!
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I'm glad they're trying hard to improve upon themselves, but I'm just getting tired of military FPS games. I think Battlefield 3 is my last game in the genre until something entirely unique ropes me in again.
Always with the same approach… this COD will be like all the CODs before with slightly better visual effects just that…
You know, I played COD:WAW in 2008 & I thoroughly enjoyed it – not least because of it's zombie/MP mode, but also because of it's campagin.
Then last week, I played Black Ops and, it was just horrible. It was literally 'OMG we need to go here and kill this guy. OMG there are people here shooting us! WE NEED AN EVAC! BUT not before we're about to get killed, to like, make it dramatic. kthxbye' every mission.
And it was so obvious that *that guy* was just a figment of his imagination. I'd actually figured it out after about the 5th mission – and I'm usually stumped on these kinda things.
Honestly it was just horrible. I'd say it's gotten worse in terms of the quality of the campagin. Another thing: How can uncharted get ripped to shreds for being called linear, when this isn't? THIS was literally like being on rails. Some missions you literally don't have to shoot, and will get through it just fine. Sub-HD really shows it's ugly face in this title, too.
I had zero interest in anymore CoDs (especially another Black Ops since I found the first game's campaign to be completely lacking), but considering how this title will be more futuristic and how it'll include the talents of David S. Goyer and Trent Reznor, I'm definitely interested now.
thats not exactly saying much!
its like saying oh joy i got syphilis the best of the STIs!
no one exactly wants it……….
in not really interested in it to be honest.
looks allot like black ops but with more futuristic weapons.
its still going to be a run and gun mindless blow everything up with NO tactical and squad based gameplay what so ever!
i want a deep tactical war based game, not a rambo film!
surprised stylone is not directing this!
@ethird1. And boy that BUM is going to smellllll.
In my eyes MW3 had the best campaign. (Never played COD4) Based on the trailers and gameplay so far, I think Black Ops 2 has a great chance at topping last year's hit.
Already have mine preordered, cant wait! Not a MW fan btw…