Obviously, the information that Lara Croft might face some sexually dicey situations in the Tomb Raider reboot didn't go over well .

Many were annoyed that developer Crystal Dynamics had seemingly erased the heroine's patented confidence and womanly sexuality. Furthermore, many were offended and disgusted at the possibility that her "toughness" would arise from fighting off the sexual advances of enemies. However, as I was when I read the Mass Effect 3 ending reactions, I was once again surprised at the level of hostility emanating from certain gamers.

I was also certain the studio would be surprised as well. That much was verified in my mind when they released an official statement , explaining that executive producer Ron Rosenberg's comments were misconstrued. They said what we saw at E3 was about as far as anything was going to go and if that's true (and we have no reason to doubt it), Lara's tenuous situations won't be in the least offensive or in bad taste. I think what's happening here is two-fold and awfully interesting, especially from the gaming culture standpoint.

First and foremost is the perceived change in personality of a video game icon. Obviously, as the reboot is a prequel, we're watching Lara come into her own, so-to-speak, so she hasn't yet developed that trademark cockiness. Now, it has been proven time and time again that when you significantly alter a game icon, you're going to feel the heat of the guaranteed backlash. Ninja Theory has been feeling it for a while now; the DMC reboot and its "heroin-addict protagonist" isn't going over well with hardcore fans of the franchise. And remember when Sucker Punch changed Cole ( inFamous ) a little too much…?

Secondly – and this actually arises from the first point – there's the protectiveness gamers often feel for their favorite heroes and heroines. Whether you liked the games or not, many of us grew up with Lara. And to hear that she'll be facing some of the worst situations a woman can face is admittedly difficult. For me, it's almost like watching a sister in danger and I've never even finished a Tomb Raider game. She's just such a huge part of the gaming culture now, and it's understandable that so many were pissed off at seeing the footage and reading that "cornered animal" info.

But I mean…did people really think Crystal Dynamics would go further than what we saw in the E3 trailer? As we all know by now, developers often show off the most intense parts of a game in any big-reveal trailer; they've been doing it with movies for years. It's called advertising and promotion. I never once expected Lara to be screaming under some brute as he rips off her clothes, and I'm shocked that any serious gamer would anticipate anything close to such a scene. Furthermore, if we're going to fully embrace the authenticity and reality of this new effort, we have to do so with no reservations. We have to accept the atmosphere.

There's no doubt that Lara would face certain issues given her circumstances. It'd be inevitable, actually. So must we cut out even any allusion to such difficulties just because we all have a certain attachment to an icon? I say, let the storytellers do their thing. If they step over the line – and I seriously doubt they will – then we can nail 'em. Until then, I'm not sure certain reactions are warranted in the slightest.

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LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

Wait a second…you've never finished a Tomb Raider game?!?!?!!?!?!?

Ugh…I'm a little disappointed.

Oh and yeah I'd like to point out I wasn't one of the people taking issue with the whole rape thing.

comicozi
comicozi
8 years ago

niether was i.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

Yeah well the difference is I wasn't being a jerk about it. You were name calling and attacking people.

comicozi
comicozi
8 years ago

um no read my next post down

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

Tomb Raider was mostly big during my RPG days. And the later TR entries didn't seem good enough to earn my attention.

Jawknee
Jawknee
8 years ago

I never finished a Tomb Raider game either. 🙂

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

Hmm…I'll never forget Christmas 96. My parents got me the game for PC and the graphics were amazing at that time. People may not remember but at that time really the only other 3rd person game worth playing was Alone in the Dark and Resident Evil.

The 3rd level had you encounter a T-Rex! You're walking through this huge jungle area and hear the noise of something big and next thing you know there is a T-Rex after you.

matt99
matt99
8 years ago

I'll one up all of you…I've never even played a tomb raider game.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

Okay now I'm getting pissy. Tomb Raider 1-3 offer some of the best adventure gaming you can have, EVER.

CH1N00K
CH1N00K
8 years ago

Tomb Raider? isn't that just an Uncharted Knock off??

Just kidding, I just want to see what happens when LV's head explodes…lol

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

Don't misunderstand: Just about everyone I knew loved TR, so I definitely SAW the games. And I well remember seeing it for the first time; even I was impressed, and all I really cared about was going home to beat Suikoden (I think that was the RPG I was playing at the time).

jimmyhandsome
jimmyhandsome
8 years ago

Tomb Raider was my first game for PSX…Lara Croft, my first crush.

slugga_status
slugga_status
8 years ago

Loved me some Tomb Raider..only beat 1-3..didn't bother with the later ones..Trying, Underworld ( I think) since it was free and going to get the other free one for Plus as well..

shadowpal2
shadowpal2
8 years ago

Never got into Tomb Raider because of the character herself. Hated Lara Croft – didn't seem real at all with that ridiculous cocky attitude of hers, athleticism of an olympian while having ridiculous implants and all.

Yes…it annoyed me that much. Because if I couldn't like the character I was playing – I could never get into a game.

BUT NOW…she SEEMS QUITE DAMN REAL and like an ACTUAL HUMAN. I'm loving the change, and can't wait to play my first Tomb Raider game.

Underdog15
Underdog15
8 years ago

With a real good sports bra, she could be super agile without them getting in the way.

frostface
frostface
8 years ago

I won't call this Mass Effect 3 part 2 because even though I've no problem if the scene was gonna be full on (I think as adults we can handle mature topics), unlike the ridiculous reaction to the ending of ME3, this actually was something worth getting in a tizzy about. It's obviously a sensitive subject having rape in a game and here some gamers expressed their displeasure and it's understandable. Glad that it was cleared up so hopefully now everyone will enjoy the game.

Sir Shak
Sir Shak
8 years ago

I think a lot of people also don't feel it makes much sense for the character. If you take Uncharted 3, for example, it's entirely plausible that the fifteen year old kid shown in the game turned into the Drake we know today. But maybe it is not so readily acceptable that this weak, sheltered, sexual assault(or attempted) victim was spurred by this nightmarish experience to seek out other "adventures" in the future.


Last edited by Sir Shak on 6/14/2012 12:52:45 AM

comicozi
comicozi
8 years ago

@ lv prior comment

i made two commments show me where i name called and attacked anyone. You sir have me mixed up with someone else.


Last edited by comicozi on 6/13/2012 9:47:48 PM

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

You told one of the most respected posters here (Highlander) to grow up and that no one cared about his moral BS. That's good enough for me to label you a meany pants.

It's no biggie, I'm just making sure you know that I know.

SaiyanSenpai
SaiyanSenpai
8 years ago

He said WHAT to Highlander??!! Comicozi…respectfully disagreeing is great. But THAT, sir, was anything but.

tes37
tes37
8 years ago

This generation of gaming has been rather strange, so I thought it was possible. I wasn't shocked though, just uninterested.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

^gramps

tes37
tes37
8 years ago

^tramps

j/k

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

Why jk 🙁

tes37
tes37
8 years ago

It's an old age trait.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

Pff I'm 30 and I'm sure you're not much older (even if you're a KISS fan)

tes37
tes37
8 years ago

I'm 42. I'm more of a fan of Ace Frehley and Peter Criss' contribution to Kiss.


Last edited by tes37 on 6/13/2012 10:35:14 PM

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

I feel like we've had this conversation before.


Last edited by LimitedVertigo on 6/13/2012 10:33:44 PM

tes37
tes37
8 years ago

It was close. I didn't name any names before.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

I'm listening to JPop while we have this conversation and I think that's funny.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

I don't know much about Jpop, but I do know the soundtrack to Fooly Cooly (FLCL) is some of the greatest Japanese music of all time.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

The group Perfume is the greatest thing to come out of Japan besides Sony.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

Hey, hey, HEY…OT everywhere.

I always let it slide with the PSXE vets but I mean…

I think it's all LV's fault. 😉

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

Ya…my bad I'm the OT master sometimes. I mean no harm with it.

CH1N00K
CH1N00K
8 years ago

It was a misunderstanding and misinterpretation of one persons comment, and in this generation of viral media, it got blown way out of proportion. Instead of over-reacting, does anyone believe in just putting up a hand (albeit a virtual one) and asking, "Excuse me, can you perhaps clarify on this?"

Of course, if no one had of raised a fuss about it, it would have been interesting to see if the developers would have felt the need to issue a correction or had thought that they said something wrong…

Anyone know if the guy who blew his top on the quoted posts has issued an apology of any kind for perhaps "overreacting"? My bet is on no…


Last edited by CH1N00K on 6/13/2012 9:51:52 PM

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

I'm glad it blew up, it makes for interesting reading and conversation.

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

No I don't think anyone thought Lara would get raped, but the idea that it was going to be an obvious outcome in the mind of the gamer was offensive to some.

*Spoiler about Dead Island*

I have to say I was totally bummed that all those guys gang-raped Jin but nobody ever talked about it like this so it's obviously about the high profile nature of Lara in this case.

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

Ugh I've yet to play the game and so I ignored your comment due to the spoiler.

slugga_status
slugga_status
8 years ago

That's exactly what is was for me World..Haven't played Dead Island yet..ridiculous backlog..but I had no idea that was in the game..

Mdash0009
Mdash0009
8 years ago

Paragraph 6, line 2. It says "what we say in E3", think you meant "what we saw".

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

Really?

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

Yes, fixed.

…..I'd go on some rant about how many articles I have to proofread in any given day, week, month and year, but I'm in a good mood. 😉

matt99
matt99
8 years ago

Well this is what happens when people jump to conclusions.

ShiorixZetsu
ShiorixZetsu
8 years ago

I must be like the only female gamer that is not offended by that scene of lara being assaulted by a guy in or something. Call me weird if you want. As long as Lara is built back up into the tomb raiding bad ass we know and love I welcome this reboot and can't wait to play this game next year

LimitedVertigo
LimitedVertigo
8 years ago

sup

::flex::

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
8 years ago

LOL @ LV

Of course, now all the members must flex to impress.

Jawknee
Jawknee
8 years ago

LOL! LV…haha. I'm glad you're back.

Shiorix, I consider myself a pretty traditional guy and I tend to loathe this kind of material but from what I saw(and I assume it's what people are upset about) I wasn't offended either. I've seen worse in movies and anyone claiming there is a difference is kidding themselves.


Last edited by Jawknee on 6/13/2012 11:41:29 PM

Clamedeus
Clamedeus
8 years ago

Lol LV xD

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
8 years ago

Most of the female gamers I've met are a lot more level headed than the rest about what is contained in entertainment. That may be anecdotal but it just seems to keep coming true.

Beamboom
Beamboom
8 years ago

Actually, ShiorixZetsu, you are not alone. There was a girl in the comments field after the first article on this subject who essentially said the same as you say here.

It's funny how it typically are adult males who get most upset in these kind of topics than females. Must be some age old protection instinct that kicks in, or something.


Last edited by Beamboom on 6/14/2012 5:53:49 AM