So you got BioWare to do something about the endings. And yet, as I and others in the industry said ( Bioshock creator Ken Levine included), this isn't going to solve the problem.

You can't please everyone. It's just the way of the world. And even though the developer has promised a Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut for the summer – which is free and entirely unplanned; a direct response to the outcry for a better climax – not all fans are happy. And nobody is surprised.

As reported by ABC News 10 , there are already examples of more complaining on the part of ME3 fans. Here's what a student at the University of South Carolina Lancaster had to say:

"We do not want an extended cut, we want an ending that fits Mass Effect 3, not some ending clearly ripped from the bad endings of several movies that completely destroys the purpose of playing the game."

Others have spoken out saying they don't think BioWare should change the story at all, and we particularly like Facebook user Eileen Presser's comment on the subject, which sums up what a great many journalists have been saying concerning this topic:

"How infantile is that? "If that is the order of the day & how they live their life because they think endings that don't please them should be changed, they are in for some very tough sleeding in life."

A little while ago, I did a piece that tried to explain, in the most civil way possible, that the Mass Effect 3 fans had every right to complain, and every right to stand up and be counted. But at the same time, the brazen, childish attitude with which those complaints were initially expressed reflected badly on the gaming community. And all I've got to add is this-

I would strongly suggest you all just thank BioWare for bowing to your whims and move along your merry way. You've made your point. If you don't want to be seen as entitled, spoiled brats (which is the way some view you, unfortunately), you really can't complain about the Extended Cut, too. If you do, I'll lose the last scrap of respect I have for hardcore followers of that franchise.

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frylock25
frylock25
9 years ago

some people are just stupid and will complain to complain. i find this whole thing a little annoying. i have not played it yet and all this makes me not want to right now.

TheIllusiveMan
TheIllusiveMan
9 years ago

Don't avoid this game because if the ending controversy. If you want to play it, play it. And when you beat it, tell me what's so bad about the end. You'll see that outs not that bad. It's nothing spectacular, but it isn't some game ruining, life wasting, horrible ending it's made out to be.

frylock25
frylock25
9 years ago

only reason i havent played it yet is because i have to many other games to play right now. one day i will

firesoul453
firesoul453
9 years ago

I'm not saying the ending is great or anything but they shouldn't be forced to make up something just to make it different. I do hope it is good though and adds to the game overall

FM23
FM23
9 years ago

Personally, I thought the ending was pretty satisfying. Yes if left questions, but if these sci-fi nerds paid attention to minor sequences in the game, its quite clear what happened in the end even though Bioware did little to explain it even though the end kind of secretly explains it too. Either way,ME3 was still a step above the rest and these ME3 fans are just being losers for the sake of being losers. ME3 isn't making me breakfast or paying my bills…but it did entertain me.

SPOILER: But if the indoctrination theory is false, then this endimg really doesn't make sense or follow ME3 at all. It seems as if Bioware was saying your choices don't matter when something higher dictates your existense. Kind of like Shepard and his/her crew


Last edited by FM23 on 4/9/2012 11:26:38 PM

oldmike
oldmike
9 years ago

so you like the IT idea then?
you like the idea the game shiped without a true ending?
that its full of plot holes and tech not in the ME world like "beam me up scotty"

never mind the fact they stole the ending from another game

WorldEndsWithMe
WorldEndsWithMe
9 years ago

Wait, when did they fix the first ending?

TheIllusiveMan
TheIllusiveMan
9 years ago

I've been a huge Mass Effect fan since well before I ever played it. I have done everything start to finish, including all the DLC. What I don't get is what these people expected. This is an ending to Shepards story. To show anything beyond that is just dumb. They ended it in a way that is just what they wanted. Sure, all your choices didn't really have an effect on it, but honestly, this whole damn game was an ending. It wraps up nearly everything you've done, brings together everyone you've encountered, and ends the conflict you were set out to end.

The point is, they wanted people to speculate, and they wanted to have them ask questions, but the general crowd of gamers can't be satisfied with that anymore. This ending wasn't bad at all. So what if they didn't factor in the fact that you did or didn't help *insert person here* do *insert task here* into the very ending. What relevance did it have? What did people want, slides like on Fallout? This entire game was amazing in every way and such an amazing improvement over 2. The gameplay, the story, the things you get to do and see, all of it together just made this game a great experience.

___________
___________
9 years ago

your TOTALLY missing the point of the series!
ME has NEVER been about sheppard, its always been about the galaxy.
about the greater good.
screw a race if it means helping 2.
so having a ending like what ME3 did is like ending LOTR where they enter the mountain.
well, you answered 1 question what about the other 72645676534?

not to mention another point of the series was choice, which is negligible!
tomato tamato same thing different spelling does that mean their different?
bioware promised massive variations in what happens at the end, would you call the variations massive?
yet again developers over promising and under delivering.
has anyone ever thought if bioware, and not only them developers are doing this all the time!
if they did not promise things they could not deliver on then this would of never happened?
they promised a Ferrari and delivered a Suzuki so of course people are going to complain!
im sorry but bioware and developers have NO ONE to blame but themselves!

maybe, just maybe, next time developers will think twice before they lie flat out in fans faces!
id at least like to believe………

telly
telly
9 years ago

Well said, Illusive Man. Just don't get the OUTRAGE over the ending at all, the SCREAMING over BioWare's "betrayal." Just… don't get it.

oldmike
oldmike
9 years ago

How many of you pro ending played all 3 games?
how many even beat ME3?

kind of bugs me that the big GAMEING news is all pro enders
yet you have writers and Forbes and others trashing how flawed it is

sunspider13
sunspider13
9 years ago

I find it just funny that this situation happen in the first place. I haven't gotten my hands on the game yet but the whiners remind me of some of my friends that stopped watching shows because a favorite characters was killed off. Ok fine you're dissatisfied with what happened but come on it's only a tv show.

I can understand people being upset with the ending and they wanted to voice their displeasure about that fact, but if they weren't such self entitled gits about it I know this whole thing wouldn't have been such a news item.

The first ME was one of the few 360 titles that I finished while my brother still had his 360, and ME2 was a great experience from beginning to end and I look forward to playing ME3. So thanks BioWare, from this sci-fi fan, for a great epic.

oldmike
oldmike
9 years ago

ok this pisses me off you HAVE NOT PLAYED IT!!!
what right to you to say any thing about it?

Geobaldi
Geobaldi
9 years ago

Whether people complain or not about the new endings doesn't really matter as their reputation, and that of gamers in general, has already been affected negatively thanks to this whole experience. Whether it can be repaired is a whole other story, but I don't think it will be anytime soon.

Gabriel013
Gabriel013
9 years ago

I'm nowhere near getting to an ending (RROD 10 hours in) but I was shocked to hear that there's no explanation as to what your surviving crew did, even in the few months after the final event. I'd be more than happy to see a text wall for each of the main characters to properly end their story as well as Shephards.

With regards to the 3 choice endings I've seen online I thought they were ok and don't need changing.

I do wonder if they left the rest of the ME universe unexplained because ME4 is intended to pick up not long after ME3 ends and thus the explanation will be in the gameplay itself. If that IS the case they should have come out and said it before the gamerrage took hold then maybe some of this anger from some gamers would have softened.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

I don't think that will be the case. To much goes on in the end of ME3. I don't know how they would pull it together. You never know though.

___________
___________
9 years ago

that very small detail explains everything wrong with the game.
i mean if you cant spare a few moments to detail the crews story, the people you have spent years with doing the impossible defeating a deralict reaper, then defeating the collectors, then standing up to a entire race of reapers, thats just fudged!
i developed a real connection with allot of the characters, especially joker, edi, miranda and liara, you really dont get to see there events during the struggle.
its like heavy rain ending where you enter the warehouse!
i was really expecting a layout of the ending i got, why i got it and what i could change to get other things.

everything in the game feels rushed!
the side missions even no more can you talk to NPCs and try get more info out of them.
on particular mission i remember ME2 you could help a slave get out of her contract.
there were so many ways you could do it.
you could talk to her owner and convince her to do it, find a loop hole in the law so her contract was void, you could speak to her previous owner and get her back, there were 101 ways to get her free!
ME3 though you dont even get to talk to the NPCs so you cant do jack!
its all pre set, the whole game just feels seriously rushed!
to call it linear would be understatement of the century!

not only does the ending scream i was rushed, the whole game screams it at the top of its lungs!
which really makes me wonder WTF did bioware do with the extra 4+ months of development the game had?
my money goes on kinect support and thats it.
sad.
kinect support over improving the quality, thats what this industry has come to!
lets waste our time getting 2 more sales, instead of improving the game for our true fans!
sad………


Last edited by ___________ on 4/10/2012 10:30:22 AM

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

I just finished one of the three endings, the ending itself is not what I see as "bad". I think the game Is satisfying but I can now (after finishing it) see where some frustration is coming from. I'm not one who would yell for a new ending, I think it's wrong to ask for one and I don't think Bioware should have given in, although I am now excited to see what they do. So it's a win win for me, cus I get more ME!

*****SPOILERS*****

My problem with the endings is they all seem to, I don't know, diminish the whole point of the game. In ME2 Shepard assembles a crew of the best soldiers. Through out ME3 it goes further and instead of assembling a crew you bring worlds and races, both organics and synthetics together to fight for survival. In the end the 3 choices you have to make neglect most of the choices you've made along the way. That's all I'll say but it almost defeats the purpose. That's a little frustrating not being able to have just one more choice at the end that could do more…

*****END SPOILERS*****

Anyways again it's fine, I'm going to finish the other 2 endings tomorrow and see what happens. Although you're pretty much told in the final minutes. I just want to see how it plays out. Also looking forward to this "extended cut".


Last edited by bigrailer19 on 4/10/2012 1:30:57 AM

Fane1024
Fane1024
9 years ago

Thanks for the warning, bigrailer; it allowed me to read the rest of your comment.

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

Well you're welcome. I really didn't say too much that is really involved but I know how It can be to read something thatcan completely ruin it.

oldmike
oldmike
9 years ago

there all the same

Heartless Angel
Heartless Angel
9 years ago

I miss the good old days. Ending sucked!(Moves on)

Douchebaguette
Douchebaguette
9 years ago

I somewhat agree with the attitude issue among fans, but I can see how many of PSXE community can't see how much of a big deal it is towards huge fans of the Mass Effect series (unsurprisingly, since they probably didn't get the opportunity to delve into the first game to fully enjoy their trilogy career that they've made decisions for, to an emotional extent).

I'm playing Mass Effect 3 now, and despite not reaching the end yet I was really worried more about how the story and core elements could of changed due to replacing the main writer and composer for ME3. Though despite it being abit "dudebro" like Brad from 4PlayerPodcast states, I can now sigh in relief. They did a good job. GUDJOB! =]. I prefer it over the dumbed down and contradictory Mass Effect 2, indefinately. Infact so far, I find story elements of ME3 to pick up and mend on ME2's narrative flaws. The gameplay, features and mechanics didn't take the best of both worlds from previous games, but instead comprimised and blended them, which I am more than content with.

Which makes me wonder…if the game itself is great, then how bad an ending is it really? For me personally, as long as the story remains stale then I could care less whether or not it makes all my decisions throughout all three previous games rendered nullified (though that does sound like a huge let down, I must admit). I am prepared for the ending.

Apparently (claims a friend) that if you gain enough war assets, you may bump into a secret ending.

Douchebaguette
Douchebaguette
9 years ago

I noticed I accidentally referred to the Mass Effect plot as "stale." THAT DIDN'T COME OUT RIGHT, I SWEAR.

kageneko
kageneko
9 years ago

The Mass Effect series had the potential to redefine art as it applies to video games. It had the stunning visuals, it had moving music, it had acting and writing to shame some of the best that Hollywood has to offer. This game could have set the standard for gaming and games as art for years to come.

Instead, it fell flat on its face inches from the goal. It committed several cardinal sins of writing. Calling that ending art is like calling bathroom graffiti art. It deserves better. BioWare deserves better. And the loyal fans who recognize the abject failure that was the ending deserve better. This isn't about trying to force BioWare to bend to what we want, it's about trying to get BioWare to see what an abysmal failure that ending was, to see the potential we see in the franchise, and to see how changing the ending is the right thing to do to honor the quality of the rest of the game.

Those who say "it's just a game", they have a point. But it's also art. And art is important in this world. It serves a purpose – to inspire, to teach, to uplift, or to be a reflection of ourselves, our society, or the world around us. Art – good art anyway – is more than just a fun diversion. Good art can change the world. There's a video on YouTube entitled "One of the best inspirational videos ever". It's a clip from a reality game show. In it, a rather unassuming (to put it kindly) woman says she wants to be as famous as one of the most famous performers in England. Everyone in the audience rolls their eyes, or snickers. No one believes this woman will amount to anything. Within seconds of her opening her mouth to sing, the audience has been won over completely. The power of her voice changed the minds of everyone in that audience. That video has over 33 million views. And had she stood up there and written a computer program, or juggled, or audited a bank account, no one would have been impressed, no one would have been inspired. Art has power, art can change the world. Why shouldn't we want to see this series that was, up to the last few minutes, absolutely brilliant art, succeed as a complete and profound work of art, instead of existing in the broken state it's in now?

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

Glad you see it as art.

Unfortunate that you think an artist should bow to the whims of the masses and change completed work.

kageneko
kageneko
9 years ago

What I see is that an artist should aspire to be the best that they can be. I don't want BioWare to change the ending because we force them to. I want them to see the flaws in the ending and address them the way I know they can. I want them to take an objective look at their work, separate themselves from the fact that they created it, and see what it is that we see. I see our role as something more like an editor or proofreader, drawing the artist's attention to the flaws in their product.

And there's no such thing as "completed work". Not with a media like this anyway. Art can and does change all the time, for better or for worse. Just look at Lucas. Look at Arthur Conan Doyle, look at Charles Dickens, da Vinci, Michelangelo, Van Gogh – all of them have made significant changes to their works of art, either at the request of fans, or because they saw something they wanted changed, or because the person paying the bills told them to. The world is no worse off because Holmes was brought back from the dead, or the Sistine Chapel was painted by a sculptor. In fact, it's better for it. I want the same thing for this series.

telly
telly
9 years ago

Holy S**t, did you just compare Mass Effect to the Sistine Chapel?

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

No. That is the biggest problem of this generation, thinking the times can actually change art. We CANNOT be that egotistical.

You can call it art or you can call it media; you can't say because it's a different form of art, we're allowed to bend the rules and say artists must FIRST put the public's interests at heart. Then it only becomes a product for sale and nothing more, and the art part flies out the window.

Art is about communication. And yes, if it's a finished product, it's a finished product. If it didn't speak to you, too bad. If you didn't connect with the artist, feel free to say, "I'm sorry, but this isn't doing it for me." Anything beyond that is allowing consumers to turn art into something it isn't and can NEVER be.

Either that, or simply don't call the game art. Just call it a consumer product and nothing more; then all complaints are valid.


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 4/10/2012 3:26:52 PM

bigrailer19
bigrailer19
9 years ago

Telly-

I don't think he did…

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

You can't call this stuff art anymore, it has artistic qualities but so do a lot of forms of media. Its also such a broad media medium that you have to draw some lines. Journey is art, its purely about evoking emotions. But would you call angry birds art? Probably not, would you call farmville art? See what I'm getting at here? Most games from big publishers are way to monetized and annualized for it to be taken as pure ART. It is marketed as a PRODUCT Ben what part of that don't you understand? Watch E3 videos and EA calls all their games products, and products and first and foremost for making money and to fill a need or a want that consumers want. So yes the consumer is right in most cases.

Games started out as something people made for other people in so they could have fun or lose themselves in another world. Now maybe the games we get now are "quality" but a huge chunk of games are falling into the same blurry category of desert shooters. Its almost exactly what happened when the industry crashed in 83. Companies pushing out too many games and of low quality, in our case now its the same thing but instead they may be polished but they are the same as the last shooter.

Are some games art? Yes but artistic games are a genre inside the medium. You can't call all video games art because thats just not even close to being true. Games like Flower, Journey, Limbo, Dear Esther are indeed art. They have a purpose to evoke emotion and thought with very simplistic gameplay. But most games on the iPhone or on facebook are not art. Just like a lot of games from big publishers aren't art, they might have an emotional story but again if its being marketing has commercials, and bloody soft drinks named after them, it is no longer art, it is a product plain and simple.

QuixoticMage
QuixoticMage
9 years ago

Really, you're warning us now? Oh my.

If you have a group of people complaining about how something is of poor quality, and then you promise to give them MORE of that same thing of the same poor quality, then they will likely continue to complain about the poor quality.

Seems like common sense to me.

Crabba
Crabba
9 years ago

Yeah I agree, if people don't like it they have a perfectly good right to complain about it, and that has nothing to do with entitlement, but with expectations.

If noone complained about things like this, how would they know people didn't like it? Bioware would just assume it sold great so obviously people must have loved it, and made a sequel even worse than the previous one.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

Anyone who thinks ME3 or it's predecessors is poor quality because of 5 minutes worth of writing that they are upset didn't go their way, has a long way to pull their head out of the southern side of lost daylight.

Crabba
Crabba
9 years ago

Well I have yet to play ME3 so I don't know how the ending is, but from reading a lot of comments about it, I have yet to see a single person saying they thought the ending to ME3 was great, and a LOT of them saying it's complete garbage, including plot holes, disregard for what you did throughout the series and things like that tell me this doesn't seem to be a case of difference in 'artistic vision', but sounds more like Bioware was too busy working on the multiplayer feature than finishing the actual game properly.

Add that to the day-one DLC garbage and reviews saying ME3 is even more of a pure action-game than ME2 was, and I'm in no hurry to play this one, which is really sad because I thought the first Mass Effect was a great game, and the second slightly less so…

___________
___________
9 years ago

of course its not going to solve the problem!
they have destroyed one of the industries best series ever created!
the WHOLE series, countless years of work all came down to the ending of ME3 and they sh*tted on it thus sh*tting on the entire series!
you can f*ck your bosses wife, then say sorry, buy him a Ferrari, buy him a holiday house, a private jet, whatever, anything, but that does not magically erase the fact that you f*cked his wife!

so in short they can do whatever they want, but unless bioware has been sitting on some secret plans for a time machine no matter what they do they cant fix their f*ckup!
they can make it better, but never fix it!
hopefully they do help the problem though, if the DLC is anything like the game then all i can say is god help them!
i just hope there not running into a hornets nest ruffling the place up, then coming back and blowing it up!

pnexus
pnexus
9 years ago

Are you really saying that a client shouldn't complain about having a commodity as advertised and promoted? Fans shouldn't complain because they are "standing by their ending" for us? It is exactly what most fans didn't want. And you can't please everyone? How about just the majority of your fanbase? Isn't that in their best interest to actually be true to their word and give the fans what they promised?

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.360magazine.co.uk/interview/mass-effect-3-has-many-different-endings/

“There
are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could
you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be
forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any
more than that…”

The uninformed and self serving "opinions" of some "journalists" is only making a mock of their client base.
To defend a company that fails their costumers with the complete opposite of the advertised product, shows a lot about you!

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

Yes, that's exactly what I said. I said it in the article where ME3 fans were RIGHT.

No, the attitude. The whining, self-righteous, we deserve everything because we say so ATTITUDE.

Good to see it hasn't disappeared but has only gotten stronger. Yeah, this whole thing is the fault of journalists. Mm-hm. Of course it is. Because the CONSUMER is NEVER at fault, right?

P.S. Good job not reading a single solitary word after the headline.


Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 4/10/2012 9:43:03 AM

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

Its more of, the product didn't deliver what it was marketed to deliver. Not people being unhappy just because they are choosing to bash for no reason. I admit though some are way to harsh with their words.

Video games being expensive and some people feel cheated for their 70 dollars.

Ben all people are saying is that they want what they were promised and considering the game was marketed and sold on those promises is that so wrong?


Last edited by xenris on 4/10/2012 10:08:24 AM

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

@Xenris
No, and Ben said they have a right to complain. It's not that they're complaining. It's HOW the majority of outcries complained.

Not sure what you're missing, exactly…

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

Um, because Ben just said in this article that people shouldn't complain about this extended DLC. People aren't saying we deserve everything because we say so, they are saying we deserve X because we were promised X and given Y.

As far as attitude, sure people are going about it poorly but its a different means to the same end. I don't agree with the harsh and violent attitude some people have but its still to get what they were promised in their product.

Also it was not the majority of outcries that were terrible attitudes, those were merely the loudest. Thats the case with any type of protest, the radical things make the news.


Last edited by xenris on 4/10/2012 11:35:10 AM

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

This is probably terrible to say, but I've been saying that in a while in the forums that the endings weren't likely to be as various as they have led people to believe.

I said they'll give the impression of choice, but it wouldn't matter.

Guess I was right.

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

Yeah, people who read the script early seemed to know this as well. I didn't think they could hold up on giving an insane amount of endings that were all cutscenes or something.

But what I was hoping for was something like Dragon Age: Origin you know. An epilogue that would narrate your choices throughout the games.

Underdog15
Underdog15
9 years ago

*snicker*

And people think FF fans are big complainers. We have a new king in that town!

telly
telly
9 years ago

Ugh, you're right 🙂

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

Just because people were happy with the ending and didn't think it was that bad, DOES NOT mean that it didn't contradict and retcon its own established lore, and have terribly nonsensical writing AND scenes.

People were told that the choices through all 3 games would drastically change the ending, and EVERYTHING would be tied off. Also we were promised closure.

So the decided the best closure was an ending that people would wildly speculate about? Up until the week before they released it, Casey hudson still had a nerve to say, that there would be a stagering amount of endings, based on what you did in ALL THREE GAMES. He lied about his product, and this is a product before it is art, not only do publishers sell it as a product, but it is monetized like a product, NOT ART.

So here we are, a terrible ending that makes no sense, has terrible writing, and rips off deus ex to the T. Now they are saying they will extend this and add more closure, but not change the ending.

I'll list why people still have the right to complain.

1- The endings plot holes are pretty much irreparable, the only way to fix them is to further destroy the established lore, or in fact add more plot holes.

2- The relays exploded and from Arrival DLC in ME2 we know that that means the entire star system gets destroyed. So one jokers ship should have exploded, but even if for some space magic reason it didn't, there should be pretty much no planets left in the galaxy. If there are then they have to do some serious adam and eve work.

3- Have fun explaining how the people with you when you get hit by the lazer some how ended up in jokers ship. Or why joker was not still fighting above and was in fact running away?

4- Have fun explaining how the geth are normally not hostile at all towards organics but the space star child moron says that synthetics will always turn on organics. Have fun explaining where he came up with this logic, when in fact the only reason synthetics turn on organics is because of the reapers indoctrination. Which in turn contradicts their motives. Am I to believe the all powerful reapers are actually my bros and they wipe out organics so that…organics wont get wiped out by synthetics…can you see how this makes NO sense. Also this is a rip off of an old anime from the 80s.

5- How are they going to explain the little gasp of breath shepard takes in the hidden ending? So we know the only way to get that is to destroy the reapers, and that means that shepard who has no armour and is almost dead to begin with, somehow survives the crucible and citadel exploding ina firey ball of death, AND THEN survives re entry into the atmosphere like he did in ME2(which again defies logic and basic phsyics of something re entering the atmosphere….he should have been dust)

6- if they somehow roll with the indoctrination theory, they are in a similar pickle of trying to explain all sorts of stuff. Not to mention giving us DLC that lets us you know…actually finish the war.

The stuff listed about the ending are facts. So if you are content with the ending that is fine, but there are some glaring issues with it that some people can't and wont just brush under the rug.

Bottom line, this free DLC is a cool idea but I'm more interested to see how they are going to try and climb out of the hole they dug and I commend them.

Ben Dutka PSXE
Ben Dutka PSXE
9 years ago

Just admit nothing would make you happy. Please.

telly
telly
9 years ago

Seriously.

xenris
xenris
9 years ago

I'm totally happy, I think the game is great up until the ending. But what makes me sad is how I don't feel like replaying the whole trilogy to see how my choices effect the grand finale.

If the ending was set up to allow for more play throughs of the first 3 games in order to get different endings, well I think that is really what people wanted in the first place.

Nothing that Bioware does from here on out is going to change my happiness levels. I actually could be content with the DLC they are making, I just listed the obstacles they are going to have to overcome. These obstacles are facts that some people myself included have a hard time overlooking. I am genuinely excited/curious to see how they are going to do this, thats not sarcasm.

Believe it or not I'm not a Bioware hater, I have been a fan of theirs since Baldurs gate, and my personal favourite game of theirs was Jade Empire. I think the reason the ending is such a let down for me is I have seen their potential, and the ending is just this mish mash copy fest of other games movies and animes that really shocked me coming from Bioware.

I don't think its entitlement either, to be upset over your product not delivering what you were told it was going to does it?

I know you hate my comments and probably me too, but I think the difference between us is I invested a lot of time into the trilogy, only to be met with an ending that doesn't warrant much replay value of the entire trilogy, which is something that Bioware said they were going to do and I was kind of expecting.

So I guess what would make me happy with this extended thing is if they could make it in a way that warranted more play throughs of the entire trilogy.

Comic Shaman
Comic Shaman
9 years ago

Well, we can hope that out of all the lessons Bioware might take away from their Mass Effect 3 experience, they figure out how to be more careful with their pre-release hype. They really screwed the pooch on that score.

But there's a big problem with vastly divergent endings, which is that they want to continue the Mass Effect series. If the endings are too different, they'll have to create extremely different starting points for entering the inevitable non-Shepard ME4.

Unless they decide to make one ending canon and discount your choices in the previous games, that is. Which pretty much goes against their vision for the series.

So it puts them in a pickle. In Mass Effect, the "choices" tend to be different paths to more or less the same outcome (not always, but often). I think they could have created hugely different endings if they really wanted Mass Effect 3 to be the final installment in the entire series, but if they want to continue the franchise (which of course they do), there's only so much flex room they have in differentiating the endings.